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Post-Birth Abortion Debated During ‘Infants Born Alive’ Bill Hearing

Post-Birth Abortion Debated During 'Infants Born Alive' Bill Hearing

Post-birth abortions were debated during a recent hearing over the “Infants Born Alive” bill. The bill addresses situations where a child is born after a failed abortion and would require doctors to provide medical care for the newborn baby.

Florida has a vehicular homicide law that holds defendants accountable for the death of a “viable fetus,” but this bill would replace that terminology with “unborn child.” Critics of the “Infants Born Alive” bill say that these small changes are intended to slowly take away access to abortion.

As previously reported by The Inquisitr, various states in the United States are considering laws that would limit the scenarios in which abortion would be considered a medically viable option.

For example, North Dakota recently defined life as starting at conception. North Dakota lawmakers also put into action a 6-week abortion ban. Interestingly enough, a study also found North Dakota to be the “most free” state while New York is the least.

The Florida House of Representatives was listening to positions on its “Infants Born Alive” bill when Alisa LaPolt Snow, the lobbyist representing the Florida Alliance of Planned Parenthood Affiliates, testified that her organization believes post-birth abortion to be a viable option. This would allow the the woman seeking an abortion, and her abortion doctor, to kill an infant who survives a failed abortion and is medically capable of staying alive.

A clip from the full committee hearing, which took place Wednesday, shows Snow being questioned by representatives about the post-birth abortion position. Florida Representative Jim Boyd started this line of inquiry:

“So, um, it is just really hard for me to even ask you this question because I’m almost in disbelief. If a baby is born on a table as a result of a botched abortion, what would Planned Parenthood want to have happen to that child that is struggling for life?”

Planned Parenthood lobbyist Snow responded, “We believe that any decision that’s made should be left up to the woman, her family, and the physician.”

Representative Daniel Davis then asked Snow, “What happens in a situation where a baby is alive, breathing on a table, moving. What do your physicians do at that point?”

“I do not have that information,” Snow replied. “I am not a physician, I am not an abortion provider. So I do not have that information.”

Later on, when Snow is asked, “what objection can you possibly have to obligate a doctor to transport a child alive to a hospital,” Snow replied, “What about those situations …where it’s in a rural healthcare setting where the hospital is 45 minutes to an hour away? There are just some logistical issues involved that we’ve got concerns about.”

What do you think about post-birth abortion as advocated by Planned Parenthood’s representatives during the “Infants Born Alive” bill hearings?

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174 Responses to “Post-Birth Abortion Debated During ‘Infants Born Alive’ Bill Hearing”

  1. Heather Marie Kosur

    I support a woman's right to choose. However, once a baby is born and is no longer inside the woman's body, then that baby is an individual person. "Post-birth abortion" is a fancy term for murder. If a baby survives an abortion and is born, killing it is nothing more than murder.

  2. Candice Marie

    "Post-birth abortion" is a fancy term for murder. If a baby survives an abortion and is born, killing it is nothing more than murder. ~ I agree completely.

  3. Ross Griff

    Post Birth Abortion? I thought this was an April Fools article about how pro-lifers were suddenly going to start opposing Florida's death penalty as "murder" and a violation of the Right to Life. JOKE'S ON ME.

  4. Jan Gaughan Thompson

    This isn;t even something to discuss, murder is murder.

  5. Ivan Blanco

    You all realize this IS an April Fool's joke, right? The video is clearly doctored and the woman gives no specific response to what is being asked.

    A little clever editing was a ll it took. Yeesh.

  6. Suzanne Zimmerly

    Good grief I've never even heard of this before. Why do women wait that long to decide for abortion? No, this should not be allowed, which is why birth control should be free to anyone that wants it. We are over populated and do not need any more babies, much less unwanted babies being born just to be killed. North Dakota is the most retarded state I've heard of with this deciding a baby is a person from conception, it's NOT an independent person, if the mother dies the baby likely would too, except for modern medicine.

  7. Sharla Harris

    Sick,sick,sick. What is wrong with this world??? Are you freaking kidding me!!!??? It's MURDER. Plain and simple. There is absolutely no way In hell this is "ok".

  8. Lodell Parris

    I DON'T BELIEVE IN ABORTION I BELIEVE IN ADOPTION YOU HAVE AND ABORTION IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED MURDER THE BABY HAS A BEATING HEART AT CONCEPTION ITS JUST LIKE GOING OUT AND KILLING SOMEONE.

  9. Patty Carmen Doerr

    i TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. FROM THE TIME A baby is conceived, the baby is a living human being, and yes murder is murder

  10. Victoria Frantz

    I don't feel its right to kill a baby once the child is born. Give it up for adoption if that's what your set on is having no no baby.

  11. Melissa Knutson

    I think that is disgusting if you kill a baby after born alive and well give it up for adoption it has a purpose to be here as well as any other human being we arnt talking about smashing a fly on the wall we are talking about a person … treat it that way!

  12. Heather Dennis

    The had the right choose to have that baby the day that she decided to have unprotected sex. Abortion at any gestation is murder. If you do not want to have then learn how to have safe sex or don't have sex. I am against abortion and post birth abortion is murder, if the woman had an abortion and the baby survived then the woman needs to give the baby up for adoption. There are plenty of people in the world that cannot have kids that would love to take the baby.

  13. Megan Layer

    It isn't right to kill a baby period. If you don't want a child either keep your legs closed or give that baby to a family that wants it and deserves it. So many people out that that would do anything to conceive a child and can't. Then there are these idiots who kill their unwanted baby. Selfish. Disgusting. Ignorant.

  14. Deja French

    Isnt that the point of adoption? this is so gross…trying to justify the killing of a newborn baby saying it is not a person..these people are delusional if they think the people of this country are going to allow this

  15. Karina Carper

    The good lord gives you the greatest blessing in the world no rape maybe. No definitely not . Woman has no right you lay you pay you don't want a baby give it to a couple who wants a baby you have options do it this is called murder you're no better than a murderer

  16. Delta R. Davis

    I'm against abortion altogether, but if you are going to have an abortion…DON"T WAIT THAT LONG! It really is murder if you kill a living breathing baby that is no longer in the woman. If you are going to abort a pregnancy then make the decision as soon as possible after finding out that you are pregnant and do it. This is just plain and simple murder if a baby is born living and breathing…to kill it then…is just so freaking wrong!

  17. Cheryl Botbyl

    Actually…you are wrong, the baby does not have a beating heart at conception.."The fifth week of pregnancy, or the third week after conception, marks the beginning of the embryonic period. This is when the baby's brain, spinal cord, heart and other organs begin to form." Mayo Clinic

  18. Melissa Knutson

    i honestly could see it passing with all the baby killers in the world its so sick and disturbing use a rubber if u dont want a baby dumb asses

  19. Kimberly Jo Dreyer

    You would have to be a doctor with no soul to kill a baby ecspecially after it was born that's murder

  20. Heather Dennis

    I agree with you! It is wrong and if you don't want a baby do not have sex. The woman makes the decision to have a baby or not when she decides to have sex. There are ways of preventing pregnancy, people that do not want kids need to learn how to use it.

  21. Brooke Binkowski

    Keeping your legs closed doesn't work if you're raped. I hope you never have to find that out firsthand, but unfortunately the odds aren't in your favor.

  22. Brooke Binkowski

    Heather Dennis Keeping your legs closed doesn't work if you're raped.

  23. Deja French

    well and with so many people against women using birthcontrol…as women we have a right to protect ourselves from getting pregnant but when there is always a debate about it and then it isn't there…I personally don't believe in abortion at all… I am 100% against it..there are so many women who cant have kids and then there are those skanks out there who don't use birth control then use abortions as birth control..it is gross..and there is no reason for a late-term pregnancy….I think they shouldn't be allowed after the 1st trimester because then it can be an elective one.. you know for people to decide they don't want a girl but want a boy..that kind of crap…

  24. Deja French

    well and with so many people against women using birthcontrol…as women we have a right to protect ourselves from getting pregnant but when there is always a debate about it and then it isn't there…I personally don't believe in abortion at all… I am 100% against it..there are so many women who cant have kids and then there are those skanks out there who don't use birth control then use abortions as birth control..it is gross..and there is no reason for a late-term pregnancy….I think they shouldn't be allowed after the 1st trimester because then it can be an elective one.. you know for people to decide they don't want a girl but want a boy..that kind of crap…

  25. Megan Layer

    Brooke, trying to justify abortion just shows that there is something wrong with you. Even if I was raped and conceived a child, I would never ever terminate its life. It is not that innocent child's life you were raped.

  26. Brooke Binkowski

    I hate to be the one to break this to you, but rubbers sometimes tear.

    And sometimes you're with a man who is crazy enough to poke holes in it, or maybe he says he's going to pull out and doesn't, or perhaps he beats you into cowering submission until you have sex with him just to get him to stop, or maybe you decide to give a guy friend a ride home from a bar and he shoves you into a wall and has sex with you while you're pinned down. And maybe one of these things gets you pregnant.

    Life can be brutal. It's best to be prepared. One good way to be prepared is to recognize that it's not so simple as "use a rubber if u dont want a baby dumb asses".

  27. Holly Mullikin

    I don't believe it should be up to the government on what a woman does with her body however i don't believe that abortion should be used as a method of birth control!!! We have made it to easy for teens and adults to "get rid " of a UN-planned baby i believe that the only way a woman should be allowed to get an abortion is if the woman was raped or the life of the mother is at risk!!!! There are to many willing couples out there that want children that cant have them for whatever reason adoption is the way to go…..Think about what you are doing with this bill giving a doctor the right to KILL A BABY that has already survived 1 attempt on its precious life!! Really i thought doctors to a oath to help not to KILL

  28. Megan Layer

    It is not thy innocent child's fault that you were irresponsible. It is not that innocent child's fault that you don't want it. A child is a human being from conception, no matter how it was conceived. If you can't handle being pregnant or being a parent, let someone else be the parent. You are not God, you should not have the right to kills baby. Ever.

  29. Yvette Arriaga

    wtf? I'm pro a lot of choices for women but this is just mind blowingly disgusting. Anyone who can see, feel, and hear the baby after it's born and still have the heart to take it's life would be a total psychopath. I can't people believe anyone out there is even considering it! Every life has the right to live and even if you don't believe in God you don't have the right to take life from anyone!

  30. Holly Mullikin

    How about dont lay on your back and not get pregnant in the first place?? there are plenty of way to prevent a pregnancy Why abortion is even legal is completely beyond me but especially this "Post-Birth Abortion" this is plan and simple MURDER no way around it

  31. Jennifer Whitus

    regardless of how anyone got pregnant, if a baby is born ALIVE, it needs SAVED. period. The mom can just give it up for adoption at that point. Think about it…if a doctor doesn't have to save a baby, whats next, not having to save an elderly person, I am sure that if you were struggling for life you would want the doctor to save you…

  32. Marissa 'Ness' Garver

    This must be an April fools joke…. Otherwise, ppl are trying to get away with murder! Abortion is also murder in my opinion too…

  33. David Santiago

    This is a non issue. Once a child is alive and kicking every effort is to be made to keep it alive. I am pro choice not pro murder.

  34. Melissa Knutson

    ok well then they should get an abortion in the first trimester an not wait until its fully developed an born then kill it.

  35. Mandy Link

    I'm not understanding why there is even an issue, an article, or even one single human being thinking about doing anything to a child in this situation! once a child is BORN it is BORN. end of story! NO ONE should get to chose to end that life for any reason! Remeber Kevorkian? If assisting a willing, grown adult to end their life is illegal, why on earth would murdering an innocent just born child even be considered by any one human being? I don't get this AT ALL!

  36. Joanne Parrish

    How can any human being even ask this question? It is murder plain and simple.

  37. Holly Mullikin

    as much as i disagree with abortion i believe that certain circumstances allow a woman to chose to end the pregnancy and rape or incest are included in those circumstances. Getting an abortion just because you were a dumbass and got pregnant isnt an acceptable reason learn to take care of your responsibilities Birth Control or no SEX

  38. Deja French

    which is also why us as women need to be able to use birth-control to protect our selves from getting pregnant in the first place..and if someone rapes you then I agree an abortion is acceptable but still only in the the first trimester..if not then there is nothing wrong with putting a child up for adoption… what this issue is "when a woman is in her 3rd trimester and goes in for an abortion and it doesn't work and the child is lying on the table ALIVE and BORN then is it ok for the doctor to finish killing the baby" at 26 weeks a child can survive pre-term labor, so then is it okay for the doctor to kill the baby or get the baby medical care?

  39. Angie Perez Moore

    King James 2000 Bible (©2003).
    Jeremiah 1:5Before I formed you in the womb I knew you; and before you came forth out of the womb I sanctified you, and I ordained you a prophet unto the nations. So this is my answer, God is the creator, we are the vessels. I wish I could have had children, but didn't. My mom couldn't have children, waited after her 1st trimester so that the option of a therapeutic abortion was not an option (1956). I was born at 8 months, weighed 3 1/2 lbs and my mom was in an oxygen tent. Dr. worked hard so that we both could live. I do NOT support abortion in any form for any reason!

  40. Deja French

    and most cases of unwanted pregnancies are because people were dumbasses and didn't use a condom or some other form of birth control…

  41. David Santiago

    We are not talking about rape here or even the right to abortion which by the way I support. We are talking about a living , kicking baby. At this point the termination of this life becomes murder. maximum sanctions should apply to those commoting suh an act. MURDER that is what it is and what it should be called.

  42. Doll Gagnon

    That's all just crazy shit.to create and destroy life is awful.if you beat up a pregnant girl and her baby dies its murder but if you go have an obortion it's ok.wtf.thats nuts

  43. Tracy Singleton-Simmons

    That is MURDER! Hello, if the abortion didn't take then there is a reason for that child to be alive. Besides if you don't want kids STOP HAVING SEX! STOP KILLING THESE BABIES FOR YOUR SCREW UPS! What is wrong with these damn women. There are ONLY a few reasons to even consider abortion 1 Rape 2 incest 3 life threatening circumstances. OMG!

  44. Keturah Carraher

    If it is "Post Birth", how can they even call it "abortion". The definition of abortion is the deliberate termination of PREGNANCY…. not the termination of PARENTHOOD!

  45. Susan Shepherd

    I agree with the previous comments. Once that baby is born alive it is a separate human being with all the rights provided by the constitution. As a nurse I can only imagine the horrible way these infants are murdered. The infant should just be taken away and given to someone who will love it. I would not trust any doctor that could bring him/herself to do this to a baby! IT IS MURDER!

  46. Ruby Red Fromage

    I'm pro-choice but I'm sorry, that's murder. How can you say it's just cells when it's moving and breathing? This would make me pro-life and start voting to take all abortion away.

  47. David Santiago

    We are not talking about rape here or even the right to abortion which by the way I support. We are talking about a living , kicking baby. At this point the termination of this life becomes murder. Maximum sanctions should apply to those committing such an act. MURDER. that is what it is and what it should be called.

  48. Doll Gagnon

    Really.well no it's not .we owe it to protect all of gods children .they can't fight or defend themselves,they didn't asked to be conceived ,then have the life sucked out of them .really?

  49. Heather Howard

    Well, I think they need to actually find someone who can represent the Planned Parenthood facility to address this issue first. That woman is ignorant and doesn't know how to answer any of the difficult questions. In such a small, poorly laid out argument such as this, how can anyone make an educated decision as to what they are even considering allowing? They won't even say that they are allowing post birth abortions, as the title suggests. They talk about what to do if the mother is killed in an automobile accident, and botched abortions, ummm… how do you not know that the baby is still present? But they don't address the issue at hand. I don't think it will be anything to be concerned over, it is inhumane to kill a live baby. It is murder and will be tried as such in any state.

  50. Jae F Respass

    AmI the only one who feels like this is a joke? (and a bad one at that). I am very pro choice but once a child has been born alive it is straight up murder. period.

  51. Kearstan Franklin

    I agree with David. I support abortions, within reason, but the law clearly states once the baby takes it's first breath it is a citizen. Therefore, It has every right to survive. The mother can then, sign over her rights. That being said…. so many people complain about the welfare Issue. The tax payers will be the one providing for this child. I, personally, am ok with that.

  52. Christallin Bringingsexyback Tabb

    The woman quoted in the article is a complete idiot. If the law states that it is murder to kill a child once it is born (outside of the womb,) then to kill that child is murder plain and simple. What kind of mumbo jumbo dumb ass terminology is "post birth abortion" anyway? "Abort" means to terminate or stop something. If a baby is born alive, the birth has not been stopped. Planned Parenthood must be really desperate. They need to repent because there is probably a special place in Hell for unrepentant murderers. Killing a baby is emotionally detrimental to the mother. Why don't women exercise their right to choose before they open their legs, when there is still time to make a wise and healthy decision.

  53. Alexis Williams

    Brooke Binkowski If you don't want to have a baby DON'T have sex. This isn't about someone being raped or a condom breaking. This is about how out of control our nation has gotten, thinking that it's OKAY to kill a baby born alive(MURDER), but we punish teens and adults for murder of one on the street.. They want their cake and eat it too. Totally disgusting, no matter which way you slice that cake….it's going to come up as MURDER!!

  54. Laura Mayo-Keyes

    The picture of the baby along with the article looks like one that is well past the point where an abortion would be legal. That baby looks about term. Who aborts a baby that far along?

  55. Kearstan Franklin

    I have heard of it. It happens more often than you think. It's despicable. I feel. I should slmention that I am pro-choice. However, I do not believe it should be allowed past the first trimester. If those becomes legal in all 50 states we are giving permission for people to kill babies with no repercussions. And it also brings up the question, at what age should they legally be allowed to live. This just give us licence to murder anyone at any time. We are no better than a third world country.

  56. Christallin Bringingsexyback Tabb

    Megan Layer- Amen sister! That's what I said. Keep those legs closed! Sexual intercourse was designed to cause pregnancy. All the birth control on earth will not stop a pregnancy 100% of the time. Women have lost their "choice" by buying into the notion that they can "hook up" without consequences. Please tell me, is there really a "choice" to have an abortion? If so, why are women often depressed and sick afterward? I don't call it a choice, if you are pregnant you have made your choice. Excuse the rant but the stupidity blows me away.

  57. Christallin Bringingsexyback Tabb

    Megan Layer- Amen sister! That's what I said. Keep those legs closed! Sexual intercourse was designed to cause pregnancy. All the birth control on earth will not stop a pregnancy 100% of the time. Women have lost their "choice" by buying into the notion that they can "hook up" without consequences. Please tell me, is there really a "choice" to have an abortion? If so, why are women often depressed and sick afterward? I don't call it a choice, if you are pregnant you have made your choice. Excuse the rant but the stupidity blows me away.

  58. Joanie McCann

    wow..its one thing for a woman to decide on an abortion within the first months of pregnancy and a completely different issue to go through the entire pregnancy, give birth and then have the doctor kill the baby..not only is that inhumane, but its pointless and heartless..there are a million couples that could be blessed with that baby.

  59. Cindy Blessing

    when a woman,knows the outcome of unprotected sex ,she is not only gambling with her life she is gambling with a possibility of another life,which then is not her body,but the body of another living being, if a woman does not want babies then they them self should go under the knife and get spaded

  60. Sue Smith

    I can understand having an abortion when you have been raped or your life is in danger but using it as birth control is unacceptable to me. what is these doctors and patients going to do when it's born alive hit it in the head with a hammer. life begins when there's a spark and cells start beating as a heart. there are couples who would love to have a child. they should never be allowed to have an abortion after the first trimester. 3 months is enough to make up your mind whether you want that child or not. some women have had 3 and 4 abortions. these women need to chain their legs together.

  61. Kearstan Franklin

    To kill a live human being? Remember that law where you can drop your kid off at a safe place (fire station, police station, hospital) no questions asked? And what about signing over the rights? This is flat out murder. It's gone too far. If it failed, yeah, another shitty thing you have to deal with. Suck it up. Deal with it. You can't kill another person just because you chose an incompetent doctor to do an abortion and it did't work out the way you planned. There are other better options.

  62. Deja French

    To clear up what this article means..this is not about a woman going to the hospital and having a baby and deciding to abort the baby after a normal birth..this is about a woman going into an abortion clinic between 22 & 39 week for an abortion and the abortion is botched and that baby is still alive after…the question is "should the doctor get the baby medical care OR kill the baby?"

  63. Christallin Bringingsexyback Tabb

    Cheryl Botbyl – It may not have a heartbeat but the embryo is a human being. Life begins at conception.The embryo goes through developmental stages but at no time can it be said that the embryo is not human. I don't need to quibble about inconsequential details. Big deal the comment comes from the Mayo Clinic. I give less than a damn where it comes from. Two human beings = one gestating human being.

  64. Jamie Wilson

    Killing a living baby. WTF is wrong with people. Who ever came up with the idea for "Post birth abortion" needs to feel how it would be. If a woman wants to take birth control that is her choice but if you become pregnant you should not have the choice to kill the baby. My thought is if you are having sex and won't use a condom then that is on you. Don't kill an innocent baby because you wanted to spread your legs for a few minutes of fun. And there needs to be a law that if anyone kills a baby after conception they need to be killed. I have no tolerance for extreme left wing lobbyists that promote this type of behavior.

  65. Deja French

    (In my own personal opinion abortions should not be legal after the first trimester…with that said the baby should have medical care and taken from the mother and placed up for adoption considering the mother didnt want the baby anyway)

  66. Christallin Bringingsexyback Tabb

    Brenda Mace- What about the Dad? If the child was born the mother would come after him for child support but he gets no voice in the killing of his child? Hypocritical statement.Abortionists are not doctors anyway.

  67. Christallin Bringingsexyback Tabb

    A person and an independent person are two different things. A person does not have to be independent to qualify as a human being.

  68. Dianna Sullivan Martin

    Brooke Binkowski Yes rape is a horrible thing, but that doesn't give anyone the right to take an innocent life. A child conceived from rape is innocent of the crime, so why would anyone want to punish the child for something it couldn't control? Murder is murder any way you look at it! That child is just as much alive and just as deserving as one that was not conceived trhough rape! If people can't see that then there's definitely something crucial missing in them. And to "dispose" of a child that was born because some quack of doctor botched it, is even worse! Where has our humanity gone? This shouldn't even be under consideration. This idiot and spawn of the devil, Alisa Snow should be locked up in a padded cell and that planned parenthood group shut down for even thinking something as horrible as this! Disgusting!

  69. Charity Reeves

    unbelievable, not sure how anyone could do that

  70. Amber Heideman

    The definition of Abortion is the termination of pregnancy. Once a baby has developed and is born "Abortion" can no longer occur because birth has ended the pregnancy and the baby is alive.

  71. Dianna Sullivan Martin

    Cheryl, who cares! Life starts at conception!

  72. Nancy McGuire

    I think the lobbyist who said this was ok is mentally insane. It's murder and there is no arguing about it!!!! These people who think this is ok belong in a psych ward.

  73. Alice Young

    This is nothing new. The almighty one signed a bill when he was senator in IL allowing the child to be left untreated and to die on it own. But you will never hear of this in the lame stream media.

  74. Dianna Sullivan Martin

    Sue Smith, I'll tell you the same thing I told someone else on here. Yes rape is a horrible thing, but that doesn't give anyone the right to take an innocent life. A child conceived from rape is innocent of the crime, so why would anyone want to punish the child for something it couldn't control? Murder is murder any way you look at it! That child is just as much alive and just as deserving as one that was not conceived trhough rape! If people can't see that then there's definitely something crucial missing in them. And to "dispose" of a child that was born because some quack of doctor botched it, is even worse! Where has our humanity gone? This shouldn't even be under consideration. This idiot and spawn of the devil, Alisa Snow should be locked up in a padded cell and that planned parenthood group shut down for even thinking something as horrible as this! Disgusting!

  75. Juli Reid

    There are groups out there that believe a baby is not a person and because they are not a person then killing them isn't wrong. some groups even believe that they don't 'qualify' to be people until they are at least 3. Because they don't have hope, dreams or the ability to determine if one life situation is better than another one. So the well being of the other family members comes first.

    I have never heard such dreck in my life.

  76. Terry Wankel

    In Illinois, partial birth abortion is allowed, Obama is partly responsible for that. In some of these cases the child is forced to be born prematurely, then left in a stock room screaming and crying, nurses not allowed to feed it, just there all alone until they die. That's why I have the stance I do.

  77. Terry Wankel

    In Illinois, partial birth abortion is allowed, Obama is partly responsible for that. In some of these cases the child is forced to be born prematurely, then left in a stock room screaming and crying, nurses not allowed to feed it, just there all alone until they die. That's why I have the stance I do.

  78. April Renee

    Murder! That's what they are asking approval for. Obama already supports partial birth abortions at 24 weeks and now he wants to let people legally murder an innocent child? He is definitely the Satan portrayed in the series The Bible. Who in the world can approve murder?! Thou shall not kill. To kill a baby is the lowest you can get! WTH is America and this Earth coming to?

  79. Dianna Sullivan Martin

    Holly Mullikin No one has the right to end a pregnancy. Murder is murder from conception! Rape or not! That innocent child had no choice!

  80. Fredna Harman Wessinger

    Sick to be doing that at that time of the pregnancy anyway!

  81. Dianna Sullivan Martin

    Brenda Mace, you are a sick individual! Notice I didn't call you a woman. You don't deserve the title!

  82. Margaret Copley

    How do you spell murder? It is m u r d e r. Murder. MURDER. It is a SICK MIND who would even consider killing a newborn. MURDER! This makes me sick to my stomach. I am against MURDERING babies whether they have just been conceived or they have just come out of their mother. I would like to know what a "planned parenthood expert" will say to God when they stand before Him on judgement day, and He asks them about the murders that their clinic performed during their lifetime. And what kind of answers will abortion doctors give to God? God is the One who has "fearfully and wonderfully knit together" that tiny human life inside its mother.

  83. Cheryl Stotler Miller

    Brooke Binkowski You are right in that respect…however the child is still there. Please think about it. Killing a child is murder. Whatever the circumstance is the child that would be born is still wanted by a lot of people. It is still your obligation is to care for another living being as this is still the core of life.

  84. Robert Pendarvis

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  85. Joanie McCann

    thats just horrible..i dont think i could do that as a nurse or even as a human being just to let a baby die like that..its against our nature

  86. Jennifer Lynn Perry

    Oh so we're trying to say it's okay to murder now? "If you fail to murder it the first time, we think it should be okay to finish the job"…..I'm horrified.

  87. Jennifer Lynn Perry

    Oh so we're trying to say it's okay to murder now? "If you fail to murder it the first time, we think it should be okay to finish the job"…..I'm horrified.

  88. Jennifer Lynn Perry

    Brooke Binkowski Iagree with her even though I HAVE been in that situation. Pro Choicer's always go straight to rape, but the truth is most abortions are sought by girls who had a one night fling and realize they made a "mistake" and think they can get rid of it by killing it and making it go away. I know because I used to have a friend who had a drunkin' one night stand with a guy in an elevator, got pregnant and decided to get an abortion because "she couldn't do that to her body" and then when it was all over, she was right back out there parting and making the same mistakes because HEY, she can always get that abortion if she screws up again!

  89. Jennifer Lynn Perry

    Brooke Binkowski Iagree with her even though I HAVE been in that situation. Pro Choicer's always go straight to rape, but the truth is most abortions are sought by girls who had a one night fling and realize they made a "mistake" and think they can get rid of it by killing it and making it go away. I know because I used to have a friend who had a drunkin' one night stand with a guy in an elevator, got pregnant and decided to get an abortion because "she couldn't do that to her body" and then when it was all over, she was right back out there parting and making the same mistakes because HEY, she can always get that abortion if she screws up again!

  90. Brenda Mace

    kiss my ass dianna i could give a rats ass less what you think so fuck off

  91. Brenda Mace

    what dose it matter its not your body or your baby if u dont like what i say then dont read it

  92. Kimberly Thielen Borst

    I personally could never have an abortion, but don't judge women who have them, that is between them & GOD! However, if a baby is born, it is murder to do that! If you ask me, abortion is that, anyway! But, like I said, not for me to judge, only GOD!

  93. Cynthia Duprey

    it dosint matter if the baby is in the womans body or not it was an individual person before its first heartbeat i dont get you people you would be willing to surport a death of an unborn baby but yet if a new born was being mistreated or possibly killed then its a horrible thing well wake up people either or is horrible its all murder if you dont want a baby then either get on the pill or just dont have sex its easy these are children of god you cant just throw them away like trash

  94. Kearstan Franklin

    @ Diana, I think she is nearly misinformed. She simply does don't understand the gravity of it. @ Brenda, you are on a public forum. People do not know to dislike your comments unless they read them. That sole statements displays your ignorance. Also, as I have previously stated, those is a PUBLIC forum. Do not comment unless you are willing to go toe to toe with people and stand your ground not only with opinion, but actual facts.

  95. April Dixon

    Does it make it any less of a baby just because it's still inside the mother?! Ugh, makes me so sad. And for those of you who agree with abortion because of the rape issue murder is murder no matter the reason.

  96. Carol Davidson

    Call it Post Birth Abortion if you like….. but it is murder, plain and simple.

  97. Carol Davidson

    Terry Wankel that's not only inhumane but murder. How could anyone let a baby cry itself to death?

  98. Damary Torres

    @ Brooke Binkowski… I was raped at 16 and I got pregnant as well!!! My first born which is 13 now is a blessing. I am not saying that my solution is the way. But really…… Is it the child's fault?! And AGREE with Megan Layer!!!! There are options that you can choose abortion is definitely not mine!

  99. Teah Hall

    MURDER. If a baby is born alive abortion gone wrong or not it is officially a human being breathing. If the parent don't want it, adopt it out sign over rights. personally abortion is a womans right if they so choose. I however do agree abortions should only be done if raped or medically incapable of holding a child in womb without suffering yourself. murder is murder. I can't kill a child abandoned on the street just because its abandoned so NO PARENT has the right to kill a livining being. FU if you agree to kill. Planned parenthood representative, I really hope you don't have kids since you avoided the answer. SMH disgusting.

  100. Mike Mccollum

    If the child is alive outside of the womb and breathing,and you then take its life,you have just committed murder. my position is this: i believe abortion should only be reserved for rape,and i believe it should only be available in the first 2 months of a pregnancy. if a woman has been raped,shes not gonna wait months anyway if its real true rape. if your raped you get to the hospital immediately so as to tell about your ordeal. you dont show up 3 weeks later. and i especially believe in it in the rape of a child. lets say you have a 9 year old daughter who has started puberty already and is capable at 9 of having a child. and one day on her way to the school bus she is snatched up by a pedophile. he beats her,tortures her,and rapes her,then leaves her for dead. but she is found,taken to a hospital,and your told your 9 year old is pregnant. Are you gonna make her have that baby because of your religious beliefs? are you gonna sit her down and explain to her that what was done was called sex,and thats how babies ate born and shes gonna have a baby? are you gonna tell your 9 year old that it was a gift from God? if you do you should be arested for child abuse. your little girl who has never known about sex,has no idea yet how kids are conceoved,is gonna be told shes having a baby. she was praying for God to help her,and now your saying its a gift from him. that little girl is going to forever hate you,and hate God. the amount of psycho trauma inflicted on her would never be rrepaired.you see God had nothing to do with that. and God understands when things happen and that by getting your daughter an abortion is the right thing to do. God dosent do things like that to kids. and for us to do evil things like post birth abortions and make your 9 year old daughter have a kid in his name is totally wrong. humans tend to see in only black and white,right or wrong. its either this way or that. but God created intelligence. he created knowledge and truth. God sees in all angles. he sees the truth and whats right in all directions and possibilities. Hes God.

  101. Mike Mccollum

    If the child is alive outside of the womb and breathing,and you then take its life,you have just committed murder. my position is this: i believe abortion should only be reserved for rape,and i believe it should only be available in the first 2 months of a pregnancy. if a woman has been raped,shes not gonna wait months anyway if its real true rape. if your raped you get to the hospital immediately so as to tell about your ordeal. you dont show up 3 weeks later. and i especially believe in it in the rape of a child. lets say you have a 9 year old daughter who has started puberty already and is capable at 9 of having a child. and one day on her way to the school bus she is snatched up by a pedophile. he beats her,tortures her,and rapes her,then leaves her for dead. but she is found,taken to a hospital,and your told your 9 year old is pregnant. Are you gonna make her have that baby because of your religious beliefs? are you gonna sit her down and explain to her that what was done was called sex,and thats how babies ate born and shes gonna have a baby? are you gonna tell your 9 year old that it was a gift from God? if you do you should be arested for child abuse. your little girl who has never known about sex,has no idea yet how kids are conceoved,is gonna be told shes having a baby. she was praying for God to help her,and now your saying its a gift from him. that little girl is going to forever hate you,and hate God. the amount of psycho trauma inflicted on her would never be rrepaired.you see God had nothing to do with that. and God understands when things happen and that by getting your daughter an abortion is the right thing to do. God dosent do things like that to kids. and for us to do evil things like post birth abortions and make your 9 year old daughter have a kid in his name is totally wrong. humans tend to see in only black and white,right or wrong. its either this way or that. but God created intelligence. he created knowledge and truth. God sees in all angles. he sees the truth and whats right in all directions and possibilities. Hes God.

  102. Lacy Thon

    They don't really mention how far along the baby is and what condition they are in once out of the body. Surely they aren't past the point of viability (24wks) and in good enough condition to survive the ordeal. If they are in any condition to – abortions aren't performed with magic little pills that just stop the heart, te doctor reachs up with bone crushing instruments and takes the baby out piece by piece – a leg here, an arm there…ect. Getting the baby to a hospital may very well be pointless and the most merciful thing would be to finish the henous job that was started. But I don't even think that should occur. I think justice for that baby should be having the woman have to sit there and watch the baby die and hopefully the horror of it is burned in her memory forever.

    Before I hear any crys from the masses "what about rape?!"

    So?

    Rape is a terrible thing. But so is abuse. Because my husband hits me, I'm allowed to turn around and take it out on his child?

  103. Lacy Thon

    They don't really mention how far along the baby is and what condition they are in once out of the body. Surely they aren't past the point of viability (24wks) and in good enough condition to survive the ordeal. If they are in any condition to – abortions aren't performed with magic little pills that just stop the heart, te doctor reachs up with bone crushing instruments and takes the baby out piece by piece – a leg here, an arm there…ect. Getting the baby to a hospital may very well be pointless and the most merciful thing would be to finish the henous job that was started. But I don't even think that should occur. I think justice for that baby should be having the woman have to sit there and watch the baby die and hopefully the horror of it is burned in her memory forever.

    Before I hear any crys from the masses "what about rape?!"

    So?

    Rape is a terrible thing. But so is abuse. Because my husband hits me, I'm allowed to turn around and take it out on his child?

  104. Brian Mowery

    LOL!!! Look at all the comments from people who bought this article. God I love gullible people.

  105. Emma Woods

    This is absolutely disguisting I don't believe in abortion but killing a baby after its born give me a break they are a live human being and if you kill a man woman or child you go to jail but now they want to let you kill an infant because a stupid woman played around without protection don't want the baby. someone else will take it I'm sure that's just appalling. Never ever shouls a person take a innocent babies life for no reason none period. They are sacred and a gift they should be treated as one.

  106. Peachez Jackson

    WHAT THE FECK! Are these mofos going to "word-game" this issue to death or what? "What if this…" and "What if that.." WTF! How often is there a botched abortion for this to even be an issue. If an abortion technican botches an abortion, then guess what? He should lose his medical license and lets keep it moving. And if by chance the fetus is alive and moving then lets call in Sister Mary Clarence. Because guess what, I came in to have an abortion. Just because some quack fecked it up, doesn mean imma change my mind and bring the thing home with me.

  107. Kim LaCapria

    This is what people with half a brain call a "straw man argument." No it does not happen, and if it does, there are existing laws to cover it. Legally it is already considered murder to do what is being discussed here.

  108. Mark Losben

    Just like rightsizing is a fancy term for firing lots of (the wrong) people without cause or ethnic cleansing is a fancy word for mass murder or Concentration Camp is a fancy word for Torture and Death centers. These are the same people who lied about WMDs and caused the deaths of 4000 American soldiers and many more who were wounded..but that's okay right? You're awful naive if you thing abortions will end..they will just be illegal and women and teenage girls will get them in an unsafe environment and those women will die. Is that what you want, because I assure you it will happen…it DID happen A LOT before 1973 Roe VS Wade. Mind your own business. I think anyone who is anti-abortion should pay extra taxes to raised all these kids that they forced these women to not abort. Maybe they wouldn't be so high and mighty then.

  109. Mark Losben

    Why not from the time the sperm is ejaculated?. Why not from the time the woman gets horny". Give me a break. This is all religious bullshit. Why do you all reject science?. Can you really be that ignorant?

  110. Cathie Leahy

    I agree. Sex is to have a baby not just for enjoyment.

  111. Mark Losben

    Sure would be nice if you anti-choice people gave a crap about the baby once it is born. NO, you'll just call it one of the 47% and accuse it of living off the government (which is basically the middle class, what's left of it anyway, because the mega-rich pay little or NO taxes). Hypocrites.

  112. Mary Reeder Rowan

    how stupid can people be? It is murder. The baby is HUMAN no matter what stage it is in. within a few weeks it looks human, has working organs, and is moving. It makes me sick when people say its not human or alive before it is born. The baby can feel pain. Heavenly Father sent these children to us. They are his (spiritually) not yours. We are to take care of them and love them until it is time for them to return to him. You will be accountable for how you treat them. You and the doctors will be responsible for murder.

  113. Understand ElisaBeth

    I am thoroughly finished with humanity…

  114. Understand ElisaBeth

    I am thoroughly finished with humanity…

  115. Bobbi L. Thornton

    Are they trying to provide legal murder here? If you do not want children, then do not get pregnant in the first place. I believe in a persons right to choose, so be intelligent and make choices before you become pregnant because life begins at conception.

  116. Bobbi L. Thornton

    Sorry Brooke, but very few women get raped to begin with and even fewer would become pregnant from such. Most women, ( girls) get pregnant because they ignored the fact that they could get pregnant and failed to something to prevent such. How about teaching abstinence and maybe then there would be less unwanted pregnancies, oh yea and S.T.Ds too.

  117. Linda Schofield

    This is an April Fool's Day joke……isn't it?

  118. Rachelle Brittany Gentry

    Murder is murder and it illegal and if u don't want a baby keep. you legs closed or don't have sex there are birth control option out there and abortion is unnecessary unless. you and your doctor know the child will not survive through a normal pergnancy and result in death to the child or mother

  119. Donna Thompson Nichols

    MURDER 'SIS ALL THAT WOULD BE…PLAIN AND SIMPLY PUT!

  120. Lee Pfeiler

    They prosecute girls for murder who give birth and put their baby in the trash. What makes this different? When is the post-birth going to extend from birth into days, weeks, or years later. Isn't this what the Nazi's did to make their Super Race?