Muslim Rapist Avoids Jail Because He ‘Didn’t Know’ Sex With 13-Year-Olds Is Illegal

Since when has ignorance of the law been a defense let alone an excuse?

Bloody typical one rule for one , one rule for others.

This country and it's system is completely wrong how can you have unity between all communities one there is one rule for each, where everywhere else in the world its the same for everyone regardless of religion and colour. Not here our CPS system is too scared to enforce the law on everyone. God help this country.

ignorance is no excuse, prison should be mandatory in rape cases, and long sentences only.

So they let him go, but Gary Glitter receives all kinds of persecution? This is horse shit. = _=

I see, so in future all law makers will take into account the implications of various faiths before bringing new laws into force. So much for 'Ignorance of the law is no defense'. Will we be allowed to quote these exceptions if any of us find ourselves in court?

Very sceptical about his alleged ingorance, immaturity, passiveness and lack of assertiveness, despite that he managed to chat a young girl up online, arrrange meet up and book a hotel, and manage sex. And l, m sure he, s a father, bros, friends at school and the mosque who could or would have told him. He took a chance, as do many, luckily got a judge who was had, taken hook line and sinker.

That's horseshit either way no one should get away with that.

I was being facetious.

Once again, religion gets a free pass.

I know I wasn't arguing your point, I was just commenting my disgust.

My bad I didn't mean it to sound like I was disagreeing with you and saying I thought you meant the other guy should get off too.

Time to get rid of all faith-based schools in Britain? Islamic, Christian or otherwise?

As long as you understand. I don't want to be thought of as some pedophile sympathizer. To be honest I don't even believe this guy's story. The look on his face says he's full of shit and he knows he just got over. I'd like to knee cap the fucker.

If his intentions were initially innocent he would have been talking to someone his own age. He knew what he was doing, there's nothing passive about luring a young girl online.

Agree, Goverment, local authorities even more, made the biggest mistake ever, with preferential treatment and posative discrimination, over 50yrs its helped create the situation we have now, re segregation as much as 50yr ago, native resentment, immigrants as with new one,s also, thinking they could get special privialege, now resentful and hostile if they dont, with division growing along with hard line attitudes on both sides, been madness. The usa got it right, made up from immigrants who goty equal treatment, but not preferential, along with their programme of americanisation, it worked, now all migrated americans are american, the language they speak, lifestyle they lead, love and loyalty to their country, their flag and armed services, not even divided loyalties, in they have little or no interest or knowledge in their countries of origon, whereas we in the uk, along with France and a few other european countries have a future of uncertainty and insecurity, as will some of the immigrants also, the decent one,s, still with negative influences.

"women are no more worthy than a lollipop that has been dropped on the ground" YEAH THAT'S PRETTY CUTE.

Why stop with Britain? They don't seem to be doing any good anywhere else either.

A school that teaches “women are no more worthy than a lollipop that has been dropped on the ground,” NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN FIRST before this idiot gets any sentence.

ok, this isn't horseshit or bullshit, this is dragonshit! -.-''

Very true, world wide campaign in the process!

Yeah I didn't mean it that way I just worded it badly, and I realize that. And I never thought that, but I know other people might read my comment as if I thought that.

I cant get to this on my phone but I had to comment. I'll probably be slated, even deleted by some for this but surely, whatever your religon, colour, nationality, if you commit a crime in this country, you should be punished according to our laws? If we went to a muslim country and committed any crime, we would certainly be dealt with according to theirs.

They need to be rid of everywhere. They aren't even worthy of being called "schools" when there's no education there, only dangerous brainwashing. Might as well call them concentration camps.

I don't wanna single out a religion, since I'm… pretty much against all of them… But this tip toeing that people seem to wanna do regarding Islam is really starting to get to me. I'm pretty sure if this guy were raised in some weird cult, and gave the same excuse he'd be getting the old in and out inside of cell. So either this judge is a complete fuckin' twat, or he was paid off. There's no way ignorance is any kind of excuse.

Agree, problem is its been going on for decades, even the more extreme cleriks who after 20yrs of preaching hate have finally been deported, but there,ll be others simular, lower profiled, not saying all are, but enough to have caused brainwashing and damage to too many.

WTF ! this just makes a complete nonsense of the British justice system.

this guy just used a muslim law in my country to get away with rape, if I went to his country and did the same I would be jailed for life at the very least, and why were we not told of the school and its address I might want to join it.

the judge was also a muslim and went to the same school

You need to have your facts before you state such a thing, the judges name is Michael Stokes, so where exactly did you get the idea that the judge is Muslim????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not to mention the emotional abuse the children go through when they're blackmailed with the threat of hell.

Rape is inexcusable in ALL religions and even without religion. His Islamic teachings at his school should be questioned (by scholars) because I can almost assure you that his "concept" of Islam is wrong.

Whilst I agree that the remark was flippant it is also strange that you would presume as the world's fastest growing religions that all its followers would have ethic sounding names! My son is a white Muslim with a traditionally English surname.

What Muslim law might that be then? I certainly see none mentioned.

ditto, children vunerable targets for many people to use and abuse in many way.

Okay, that's bullshit, even if he was taught that way it should indicate that the religion is bullshit itself; teaching that women are no more worthy than a dirty lollipop? WTF? It being religious doesn't make it excusable! Religious teachings are as invalid as a insane person murdering because they THINK they see demons. This is why I get angry, people use religion as a crutch.Okay, that's bullshit, even if he was taught that way it should indicate that the religion is bullshit itself; teaching that women are no more worthy than a dirty lollipop? WTF? It being religious doesn't make it excusable! Religious teachings are as invalid as a insane person murdering because they THINK they see demons. This is why I get angry about religion, because people use religion as a crutch It doesn't matter whether he should have picked up others' thoughts about it from his school, it's the fact that he was actually taught, indoctrinated that way to begin with! That's what I find most troubling! So, you're allowed to commit crimes as long as your religion doesn't consider such actions a crime? That is very bad. This just should not be at all.

There,s actually a web site about judges, he included, called `mucky judges`, who are known to give lenient sentences to sex offenders, since way back.

Freedom of speech and actions now only apply to one Group!

The justice system is just amazing. Now if you excuse me, I'm just going to go kill and rape some people. It's cool though, where I come from, everyone does it! It's a national past-time!

WHAT's THE RELIGION GOT TO DO WITH IT? YOUR ALL AS IGNORANT AS HIM AND RACISTS ITS NOT THE RELIGION.

The Islamic religion does not teach that women are worthless, it's culture that does this.

Okay, that's bullshit, even if he was taught that way it should then indicate that the religion is blatantly flawed (right there in everybody's faces, but people excuse it due to fear of God); teaching that women are no more worthy than a dirty lollipop? Really? It being religious doesn't make it excusable! Morality is NOT in your absurd religion! You are NOT favored! Religious teachings are as invalid as insane people murdering babies because they THINK they see demons. This is why I get angry about religion, because people use religion as a crutch for their heinous deeds. It doesn't matter whether Rashid should have picked up others' thoughts about it from his school, it's the fact that he was actually taught, indoctrinated that way to begin with! That's what I find most troubling! So, you're allowed to commit crimes as long as your religion doesn't consider such actions a crime? No, that is very bad. That is an abysmal moral state. This just should not be at all.

what law? HAVE ANY OF YOU READ INTO ALL THE RELIGIONS? NONE OF THE RELIGIONS ALLOW RAPE SO DONT MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT ISSUES YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT

What a load of Bollocks!

Finally, someone who understands. People seem to ignore the fact that 'Womens Rights'' is still fairly new the western world.

A very thin line, Wendy, Islam is synonymous with the idea of women being less than men.

Would it be wrong to break a rapists legs?

Dan – Pretty sure your Mohamed and his band of outlaws were notorious rapers and pillagers.

This is hilarious. It reminds me of that episode of South Park where Cartman explains how you cheat like the white man. "I didn't know you couldn't do that."

Fuck sending him to prison. Just shoot this piece of shit in the head.

Better still get rid of muslims full stop

ill say it again. organized religion kills humans.

actually, Christianity is still the world's fastest growing religion according to some studies. It is hard to get an accurate assessment due to the lack of openness in some parts of the world.

From the Pew Institue. Note the final sentence:

However the report also included a statement saying "While the global Muslim population is expected to grow at a faster rate than the non-Muslim population, the Muslim population nevertheless is expected to grow at a slower pace in the next two decades than it did in the previous two decades. From 1990 to 2010, the global Muslim population increased at an average annual rate of 2.2%, compared with the projected rate of 1.5% for the period from 2010 to 2030".[26] The report also made reference to the fact that Muslims are estimated to make up 23.4% of the total global population in 2010 (out of a total of 6.9 billion people) and that by 2030 Muslims will represent about 26.4% of the global population (out of a total of 7.9 billion people).[26] The Pew report also highlights that there is insufficient data available on religious conversion from its own findings given the complexities of identity and the difficulties of obtaining data: "Statistical data on conversion to and from Islam are scarce. What little information is available suggests that there is no substantial net gain or loss in the number of Muslims through conversion globally…

its "you're" dan. calling people ignorant when you can't spell is pretty sad.

QUOTE: "he went to an Islamic faith school"… YEAH, WE ALL KNOW IT'S NOT THE RELIGION.

Wendy Gledhill "half as worth as men" isn't any better…

Before ya'll get on the bandwagon, re-read this.
>reports The Daily Mail.
>reports The Sun.

Guys.

I need to find a British school that teaches that meth and hookers are legal so if anyone can hook me up that'd be the tits.

Bet he does not have a tv license either, he'll go down for that though.

and so here it starts…. we are all F****d, I would cut his c**k off!

As long as you say that you didnt know it was illegal, you'll be fine!

Are you stating that they made up his quote wholesale? They may be tabloids, but they can't just invent facts.

The only place it states that "women are worth half as men" is when a will is being written. The reason they leave more to men is because a man is expected to share his wealth – a woman is not. If I, as a Muslim woman, have money that I earned – Islam says I can keep 100% of the money. I don't have to give it to my husband nor am I, in any way, obligated to spend it on my children. Only if I CHOOSE to. If a man has money – he MUST (as in, it's a huge sin if he doesn't) spend the money he earns on his wife and children. That's the only reason a man is "worth more than a woman" WHEN ITS IN A WILL. THATS IT. Now before you try to argue with me…just think about this for a second…WHY ON EARTH WOULD I, AS A WOMAN, FOLLOW A RELIGION THAT TREATS ME LIKE A SUBHUMAN? I've done my reading. I'm not an idiot. I know what's being said. I would not follow the Muslim religion if I thought I wasn't valued. You have a lot of misconceptions – you need to read more.

Exactly like how this judge should.
I don't care what the boy is saying. He's playing the court. Very well apparently because he got off scot-free. I think this judge is trying to be open minded and show he's not being xenophobic or whatever but he's seriously just being an idiot…like that's all this is.

God help this country? I think this shows just how toxic religion and religious thought can be, and we need to focus more on getting gods out of politics, law, and education.

nice! I would like to go to britain, rape some children and said it was OK in my religion and I can safely walk away from it? cmon… law is made to protect, look how he defend himself by saying a 13 years seduced him whilst HE BOOKED the hotel room in the first place?

can't you see how islamic teaching spews hatred and teaching how you can be a rapist and get away with it?
they wanted respect on their faith, but shows none towards us…

if they want to practice their 7th century barbarism, feel free to go back to where they belong… eating lizard in the desert.

hahahaa … a religion that taught us to beat women, that they are lack in intelligence, and most of them will end up in hell … it's in the BOOK, not the culture

@ wendy : and you supported that this man walk free after he raped 13 years old ? how if I someone raped your 13 years old daughter and get away with it, claiming that your daughter is no more than a lollipop dropped on the ground and she seduced the rapist ?? cmon … can't you see something wrong ??

Still, “It was made clear to you at the school you attended that having sexual relations with a woman before marriage was contrary to the precepts of Islam,” Stokes said.

this man did not aware that having sexual relations with a MUSLIM woman before marriage is contrary to the precepts of Islam… not the kuffar women, of which their holy book stated "your right hand possess"…

everything nice in islam is directed towards muslim brotherhood, not all mankind!

@ Zehra : why on earth would you, as a woman follow a religion that treats me as a subhuman ? because you are living in kaffir land, where your rights is protected by law … try some Islamic countries, where the tafsir of the quran is more blatant and real … and not the "sugarcoated ones" like you tasted so far.

you said you can keep 100% of your income at your disposal ? how come you earn your income when islam taught women should stay in home and need not enjoy the benefit of education ?? learn, read, and most importantly read from oldest islamic sources like sirat rasul allah to know that muhammad did treat women as rubbish … don't tell me you believe he married old widows mumbo jumbo, also …

what about the verse that allowed your husband to beat you up ??

there are hypocrite here in my home country – she is asked about her thought on polygamy … she said it is OK on one condition … NOT MY HUSBAND … hahahaa

but I do agree with your opinion that the judge is an idiot

He apparently doesn't know much about his own religion if he managed to wear a condom and prayed afterward. According to their holy tome, you are forbidden from praying if you have recently been with someone. He knew was what was doing, he is only trying to get a free pass. Doesn't seen like he pays attention to his religious teachings, hrm..

Donny Winardi I'm sorry that you think that way, but you need to read up on your shit too my friend. I lived in Malaysia which is an Islamic country for over 4 years and had the same treatment with education, work, civil rights that I have in Canada. If you want to tell me that Saudi Arabia treats women like how the Prophet and the Quran said to treat women – then that's a blatant lie. Saudi Arabia's government and men oppress the women.

Islam teaches that a woman has the right to an education. Denying a woman an education is a sin. Mohammed (pbuh) had never laid a hand on any of his wives – ACCORDING to his wives. He treated them all with respect and kindness and gave them their worth and more – ACCORDING TO HIS WIVES. The text that explains hitting women states that if a man were to hit his wife it would have to be so that it can't leave THE SLIGHTEST MARK…like not even enough to turn pink and it can't be on the face…so basically a small slap on the butt or arm idk – anything else would be a sin. The reason "most women" will go to hell as you say is because the Prophet noticed women were more likely to gossip about each other and create slander, it was stated that that's the reason most women will go to hell (so if you dont gossip or create slander you're good) – while most men will go to hell for other sins…THAT being said if a man were to gossip and create slander – he'd get sins and go to hell too. The Prophet's daughters were treated like royalty. He allowed them to speak in front of men – UNLIKE MUSLIM FATHERS NOW A DAYS. His wives were widows, women of different faiths and of backgrounds – yes I do believe that. There is nothing against that. You want to say Islam has become corrupt by culture than YES I AGREE. You want to tell me it was based on corruption then I'm sorry.

During the Prophet's times, before the revelation – women were treated like garbage, they were buried upon birth, they were pimped out, kidnapped and forced into having sexual intercourse. The Prophet told people this was not okay and that's why the men in his tribe turned on him – because they can no longer have their way. Why would a simple man just decide that stuff was wrong? Excuse me if I'm wrong but I would think any man in the world would love it if all women from all over walked around naked and had to have intercourse with every man they saw for a promise of heaven…but that's not what Islam states. A man can marry 4 women and that's true but Muslim men take that portion of the religion too lightly – you can only marry more than one wife if you CAN SUSTAIN AND MAKE BOTH OF THEM HAPPY AND COMFORTABLE.

Donny. I see that you're from Indonesia and I visited there and I can definitely say that from what I saw and read that your country has taken a corrupt turn with the religion. Your government leaders watch porn during court while they themselves put a ban against it…like that's not right. Religion is all about intentions. Your country uses it to control people. Whether you are Muslim or any other religion – I truly believe that if you're a good person, you will find refuge regardless of what you believe. There's also a Muslim scholar that gave a lecture about this so I hope that despite your opinions on my views that you are a decent person.

I don't want you to convert or be Muslim or any of that jazz. I just want to be treated with some respect by people who think they understand my faith more than I do. I am not an idiot. I am an intelligent human being who has read different interpretations of many different holy books. I chose this religion. I am not hurting anyone by choosing this one. I love all types of people and I like to think I'm fairly open minded. I stand up for oppressed people regardless of whether or not they are like me or even if they like me (like the Prophet said). If I was to commit ANY CRIME – I would like to think I would be treated exactly like everyone else and be punished for that crime with the regular punishment. This judge is wrong. He should have punished that boy like he would have punished any other boy in his situation.

What the hell has human society come to when this type of judgement can be made in a situation such as this? Where a superstitious belief is more important than the dignity and physical well being of a human being?
FUCK RELIGION.