Michelle Obama Tells A Big Lie In DNC Speech

Charlotte, N.C. – Michelle Obama hit a real home run for the President with an electrifying speech she gave to the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, North Carolina. There was only one issue with the speech. There was a small part of it that contained a pretty big lie.
Michelle Obama said in her DNC address:
“He brought our economy from the brink of collapse to creating jobs again — jobs you can raise a family on, good jobs right here in the United States of America.”
Sounds great and it really counters some serious Republican criticism about the President’s jobs record. The only issue is that it is not true.
When you look at President Obama’s record on jobs and the types of jobs created and lost since he took office, you will notice that the majority of workers who lost their jobs under President Obama have been middle wage jobs. In the meantime a full three-fifths of the jobs created during the last four years have been low wage jobs. The National Employment Law Project says that a good deal of the jobs created have been in lousy paying sectors like retail and food services.
There are some States, Michigan being an example, where more than a full quarter of all workers are in low-wage paying jobs according to data from the Michigan League for Human Services cited by the Detroit Free Press.
There is of course good reason as to why during tough times low-wage jobs tend to flourish. During the recession businesses such as Wal-Mart and McDonalds tend to thrive due to consumer demands for value. Unfortunately value based companies notoriously pay minimum wage or slightly better.
Paul Ryan has been roundly criticized for not being completely honest during his speech at the RNC last week. It seems as if Michelle Obama has answered in kind.












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Sep 6, 2012
She lied? Why am I not surprised?
Sep 7, 2012
also lied about struggling when first married… she and barach had good paying law firm jobs.
Sep 7, 2012
You need to learn grammar and spelling.
Sep 7, 2012
You need to learn grammar and spelling.
Sep 7, 2012
actually they did not have well paying jobs when first married
Sep 7, 2012
she actually made more money than he did he was a summer intern when they first met. Last I heard interns don't make alot of money
Sep 7, 2012
racist talk that is all this is.
Sep 7, 2012
That doesn't qualify as a lie. The truth is Bush threw us under the buss and turned his back. We are beginning to see an increase in job's and even minimum wage jobs are enough to raise a family on. Sure you may not be able to afford a house or a new car but you can make due. And soon more jobs will be created as the US pulls out of Afghanistan and the war is finally concluded. So I say to you what is your problem that you would impose your own ideals of raiding a family and call the most humble and delightful first lady a liar. I am only left thinking that you must be a miserable person with some serious issues that you should honestly see a psychiatrist to get some help.
Sep 7, 2012
There you go twisting like Qbama, "minimum wage is enough to raise a family on". What are you smoking and where can I get some?
Sep 7, 2012
There you go twisting like Qbama, "minimum wage is enough to raise a family on". What are you smoking and where can I get some?
Sep 7, 2012
That is probable why she was disbarred.
Sep 7, 2012
minimum wage jobs are enough to raise a family on? what country do you live in, man? GA's minimum wage is 5.15 a hour. If you have a family of 4 and you assume a 40 hour work week, that's 200 dollars a week, 800 a month. If you pay 400 dollars a month in rent, 50 on electricity, 25 for a phone, 25 for water, 100 for bus fare for all 4 of you. that's no tv, no internet, no clothes, no extras, no extras such as laundry or shampoo. And now you have $1.67 per person per day to eat. I'd like to move wherever you can raise a family on 5.15 a hour. Truly, I would, but sadly, my time machine doesn't go back as far as 1969.
Sep 7, 2012
You, sir, are an idiot and THAT is the truth. Go drink more cool-aid . . .
Sep 7, 2012
Racist? Why? The only thing that could even *relate* to race in the whole article is that Barack and Michelle happen to be black. The jobs record is the jobs record, regardless of the color of the president's skin, and a lie is a lie, whether the speaker is black, white, or skybluepink.
Sep 7, 2012
Racist? Why? The only thing that could even *relate* to race in the whole article is that Barack and Michelle happen to be black. The jobs record is the jobs record, regardless of the color of the president's skin, and a lie is a lie, whether the speaker is black, white, or skybluepink.
Sep 7, 2012
After Bush and the repukians left town any job is a good job.
Sep 7, 2012
Billy Jones More jobs are more jobs. Mrs. Obama did not lie. And a low wage job is better than no job at all.
Sep 7, 2012
Whether you think war in general, or any war in particular is good or bad, the fact is that jobs may (or may not) be created by starting a war (e.g. defense manufacturing jobs or whatnot), but *ending* a war does not create jobs. Why would it? A bunch of soldiers come home and add to the pool of people looking for civilian jobs, the demand for military supplies decreases, and somehow, this magically *makes* jobs? In what industry? To serve what demand? With what new influx of corporate capital for hiring?
Sep 7, 2012
"..even minimum wage jobs are enough to raise a family on.." — ?
What are YOU smokin?
Sep 7, 2012
Hmm lets see when he took office we were losing hundreds of thousands of jobs a month… we've added 4 million so far while he was president. I think Michelle Obama is not the one telling a lie here.
Sep 7, 2012
@Angie Brown I was not making a political statement on whether or not Mrs. Obama lied. I was just making a point that you can't raise a family on minimum wage as Kerry Voss had stipulated.
Sep 7, 2012
You are overparsing her statement. Any times jobs are created the majority will be service jobs. That's because there are more of them. But many of the jobs are as she describes. And there would have been many more of this type created if one of the two parties was not blocking the American Jobs Act. Hint… it is not the Democrats.
Sep 7, 2012
Do you still think the first lady is delightful????
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/03/michelle_obamas_patientdumping_1.html
Sep 7, 2012
With further consideration I must add that if that is the best you can come up with your Inquisitor skills are severely lacking! Or Inquisitr skills as you spell it.
Sep 7, 2012
With further consideration I must add that if that is the best you can come up with your Inquisitor skills are severely lacking! Or Inquisitr skills as you spell it.
Sep 7, 2012
To Billy Jones –I was responding to the article in saying Ms. Obama did not lie. I am sorry you are having difficulties. I had a different experience. My husband and I are high school graduates only and low wage workers. We managed to raise a son and help other children that we knew. We were unemployed after 22 yrs work for the county, laid off because of "budget cuts", lost our home due to lost wages and used up our savings. It is hard sometimes but if it were not for Obamacare we would have no health care. We grow our own food and cut costs everywhere. I believe President Obama offers more hope economically than Romney who seems to cater to big business and the wealthy. We are in our fifties and starting over. If we have to get more than one job we will or do whatever we can to make a living.The minimum wage needs to be higher and we can keep fighting for that. I wish you and your family well.
Sep 7, 2012
To Billy Jones –I was responding to the article in saying Ms. Obama did not lie. I am sorry you are having difficulties. I had a different experience. My husband and I are high school graduates only and low wage workers. We managed to raise a son and help other children that we knew. We were unemployed after 22 yrs work for the county, laid off because of "budget cuts", lost our home due to lost wages and used up our savings. It is hard sometimes but if it were not for Obamacare we would have no health care. We grow our own food and cut costs everywhere. I believe President Obama offers more hope economically than Romney who seems to cater to big business and the wealthy. We are in our fifties and starting over. If we have to get more than one job we will or do whatever we can to make a living.The minimum wage needs to be higher and we can keep fighting for that. I wish you and your family well.
Sep 7, 2012
Again, Angie, I think you are reading too much into my comments. I am not discussing politics here. I'm discussing math. My personal experience didn't enter into my post. I was just trying to disprove the point that you can raise a family on minimum wage. I'm not sure why you are finding it necessary to keep trying to preach to me about your political leanings, nor do i understand why you are telling me your life story. Are you looking for sympathy? are you looking for a political debate/argument?
Sep 7, 2012
Again, Angie, I think you are reading too much into my comments. I am not discussing politics here. I'm discussing math. My personal experience didn't enter into my post. I was just trying to disprove the point that you can raise a family on minimum wage. I'm not sure why you are finding it necessary to keep trying to preach to me about your political leanings, nor do i understand why you are telling me your life story. Are you looking for sympathy? are you looking for a political debate/argument?
Sep 7, 2012
Written like a true Republican. Republicans care nothing for nuance, details, facts, or anything else that gets in the way their misinformation campaigns. The fact is President Obama has pulled the country out of what was fixing to be a second Great Depression. This is true and the facts are available to anyone who cares to do the research. I know Republicans don't care, so they won't be doing the research. What else is new?
Sep 7, 2012
So in 4 more years even more higher paying jobs will be replaced with lower paying jobs and the dems will still be saying Obama created many jobs. Just look at how the average income of households has decreased over the past 4 years. It will only decrease more in the next 4 years. Obama may have solutions but they are the wrong solutions.
Sep 7, 2012
WOW all I can say is WOW??? OBOMA is a LOOSER, TRAITER and is BAD for the People!!! Makes me SICK to hear anyone voting for the IDIOT Temporarily in comand… HE MUST GO !!!
Sep 7, 2012
Exactly, I'm pretty sure the jobs she was referring to were the auto industry jobs, etc… She didn't say EVERY job was a good paying one… but I guarantee you, to those that need them, any job is a good paying job, till you can find a better paying one.
Hardly relatable to the speech from Ryan that even fox news called "an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech"
http://www.queerty.com/fox-news-calls-paul-ryans-rnc-speech-deceiving-20120830/#ixzz254aaqZoe
Sep 7, 2012
Exactly, I'm pretty sure the jobs she was referring to were the auto industry jobs, etc… She didn't say EVERY job was a good paying one… but I guarantee you, to those that need them, any job is a good paying job, till you can find a better paying one.
Hardly relatable to the speech from Ryan that even fox news called "an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech"
http://www.queerty.com/fox-news-calls-paul-ryans-rnc-speech-deceiving-20120830/#ixzz254aaqZoe
Sep 7, 2012
Exactly, I'm pretty sure the jobs she was referring to were the auto industry jobs, etc… She didn't say EVERY job was a good paying one… but I guarantee you, to those that need them, any job is a good paying job, till you can find a better paying one.
Hardly relatable to the speech from Ryan that even fox news called "an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech"
http://www.queerty.com/fox-news-calls-paul-ryans-rnc-speech-deceiving-20120830/#ixzz254aaqZoe
Sep 7, 2012
How did so many Mom's lose their way and forget to tell the kids, if you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all! Or didn't you kids think Mom had good advice? When you walk in someone elses shoes, then you can speak for or against them.
Sep 7, 2012
Voss, if it will make you happier, call the lie an uninformed interpretation of our real situation. As for "Bush throwing us under the bus and turning his back" that is continuing to propagate a liberal fallacy. The Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate January 3, 2007. At that point DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77, The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%, the unemployment rate was 4.6% and George Bush"s economic policies SET A RECORD OF 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS OF JOb CREATION! On January 3, 2007 Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee. The economic meltdown that happened 15 month later was in what part of the economy? BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES! Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie and Freddie – starting in 2001 because it was financially too risky, but Barney blocked it. Obama took the third highest pay-off from Fannie and Freddie. Obama and Democratic Congress, especially Frank fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie. Bush may have been in the car but the democrats were in charge of the gas pedal and steering wheel they were driving the economy into the ditch. Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress and the party that controlled congress since 2007 is the Democratice Party. The deficit that the Democrats was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets, the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in congress took control of the spending, and that Congress included Obama, who voted for the budgets. Judging from the way Obama is carrying out his duties as Chief Executive, bypassing Congress and desregarding the Constitutiod
Sep 7, 2012
For someone in high school, you sure have developed an opinion. Do you have a job? Have you raised a family on minimum wage? And since you are stating that PBO has the wrong solutions, then pray tell, what are yours? If there's one thing I've heard of the rhetoric from Republicans, they will bitch and complain about what's wrong and doesn't come up with solutions. We can do that all day!! People also forget, half of what PBO is trying to do to better this country, the Republican ran Congress won't allow him to do what he needs and promised to do hence the stalemate and making PBO look bad in the process. And do you really think Romney will do a better job than PBO? No, because he's going to run into the same ol same ol of Congress if they don't like what he's doing. The government will only protect it's interest to stay in power. You have a lot to learn, remove your head out of the ground and quit listening to the talking heads. You need to educate yourself in what's really important to you and do your part, because in reality all that PBO says, it all begins with you.
Sep 7, 2012
excuse me its the repubs that want to bust the unions and have every one work at third world nation wages.
Sep 7, 2012
The Fed and states with income tax have seen a severe drop in tax revenues because of unemployment and low paying jobs. Obama knows this that is why he is so eager to raise taxes (as he says on the wealthy). The Fed is spending BARROWED money and you believe things are getting better! Get real!!
Sep 7, 2012
Jobs are jobs, no matter what. What are you willing to do? See the difference in poverty is not whether you are in it, but are you willing to get out of it. Make sacrifices, pay now, play later mentality. Rich stays rich because they don't spend their money, poor gets poorer because they spend their money. A friend of mine gave this example and it really made a lot of sense: I used to buy cheap dining table, about $50 to $80 per year, because they were so cheap, they break often. So my friend told me to save my money for every time my table breaks up to $500 dollars. When I did, I bought a table worth $500 that lasted 10 years. I handed down that table to a friend of mine and bought something even more sturdier that I have it still to this day. I am not rich, but I know value.
Sep 7, 2012
Annalisa Sumaray Congratulation for verbally attacking a high school student for voicing his opinion in an open forum. You must be very proud. I'm sure your rant has converted him to your way of thinking for sure. Good job.
Sep 7, 2012
So you think Obama saved the economy with the bailouts and you also think GM & Crysler will thrive and increase sales to compete with the foreign auto companies. You are taking an awfull lot for granted. The U.S. companies have a lot of catching up to do before we can say they will definitely survive. The greedy auto unions with their demands for higher and higher wages and benefits can be blamed somewhat for the companies not being able to meet the competition. AND THAT IS THE TRUTH.
Sep 7, 2012
Conviction and opinions go hand in hand, he's has not lived long enough to experience either one. I don't rant, rants are just sayings without substance. I live in the here and now, and you don't know what I've been through, what I say is from experience. Young people need to live first and experience, hence the opinion, we all have one, the only thing I am objecting to is that since he knows the problem, therefore he should have the solutions. You can't bitch or complain about something you won't do anything about. Obviously, no one has taught him that.
Sep 7, 2012
Conviction and opinions go hand in hand, he's has not lived long enough to experience either one. I don't rant, rants are just sayings without substance. I live in the here and now, and you don't know what I've been through, what I say is from experience. Young people need to live first and experience, hence the opinion, we all have one, the only thing I am objecting to is that since he knows the problem, therefore he should have the solutions. You can't bitch or complain about something you won't do anything about. Obviously, no one has taught him that.
Sep 7, 2012
Annalisa Sumaray you just ranted about about your dining room table. I disagree with your implication that the youth of the world have nothing to offer, because somehow your failures and successes make your opinions more valid than anyone else's. I think you fail to realize that that young man will be voting soon, and his opinion will matter just as much as yours. Also, I think your attempt to limit someone's freedom of speech by saying they can't say something about a problem without a solution is unconstitutional if it could be enforced. Luckily, it cannot.
Why are your freedoms more valid than his? answer: they aren't. you just have delusions of superiority.
Sep 7, 2012
I do find it noteworthy that you aren't brow-beating any young people who support the current President. I don't think you are against the youth having opinions. I think you are against anyone who has opinions that are different from your own. You saw an easy target in this young man, and you pounced on him and belittled him. Again, I say "Good job." You are obviously very proud of yourself.
Sep 7, 2012
No the issue is you have the delusions of superiority because you're convincing me that your opinion is more than mine, so stop deflecting and take responsibility. You are as much as you accuse me of. Just like anything in life, you have problems, there are solutions. It's just a matter of what you are willing to accept or reject. Adjust and overcome. End of story.
Sep 7, 2012
Annalisa Sumaray so, your rebuttal is "i know you are, but what am i?" It's been very nice attempting to make you realize the error of your ways, but clearly, it can't be done. I can only hope that you don't talk to children like this in person.
Sep 7, 2012
BLAH – BLAH – BLAH. MR and PR are the hypocritical liars. GOPS will go to any extreme to sling horse-pucky at Barack Obama and Michelle. Yes, they had law firm jobs while paying off student loans. And what is it you know about Michigan's auto industry come back? we'll see – - – - -
Sep 7, 2012
Annalisa Sumaray Thank you for insulting a hard working American. I'm a college student studying engineering (20+ credit hours/semester). I've worked my ass off with 3 different jobs in the past 4 years to gain different work experiences (all of these jobs were obtained through networking).
I've seen workers at minimum wage – working in a restaurant for 1.5 years. These guys work their asses off to get by. The funny thing is that all of the people living at minimum wage that I worked with (who were 40,50,60+ years old) still live with their parents, are not married, or work multiple jobs. At this minimum wage job I have to admit that it is next to impossible to raise a family unless you are receiving some outside assistance (such as housing, a second job, spouse with a job, or a lot of OT)
My next job was with people at a next to minimum wage (~$20,000-25000/yr). They bust their asses having to work 50 to 80 hours a week. Most of these guys had children and were either married or had a current girl friend. They got by, but still, barely.
My next and current job is at a hospital assisting in medical research. All people here are either students or experienced research managers. These are true middle class wage workers. They seem to have no financial issues but i'm sure some of their living styles are costing them. Since I have been at the location numerous people have been demoted or fired due to lack of funds. (and I'm speaking about one of the largest hospitals in the south east).
Before you say, "oh, you had no problem finding a job", well, like I said all of these jobs were though networking. The second and current jobs I have had are both temporary positions because the amount of work available. I must say it took a good while of searching to even find these.
So woman, quit making ignorant statements. Unlike you, I seek prosperity. I'm not going to sit there and only take what the government gives me. In a year when I'm a practicing engineer I'm going to want whoever is going to support more construction and rise in business. If I think that one person is going to create more than another then I'm going with him. Obama has done a lot to fix this, but not a single bit of it has worked. We are no better off than we were 4 years ago, and we will be no better off 4 years from now. 4 years is plenty of enough time to make a change. You're empty promise bucket is just going to get even larger in the next couple of months as Obama will say or do anything to get re-elected. I know you are just too high on what comes out of his mouth to look through and see what has actually worked and what has failed.
Jobs are not jobs if we are losing them at the same rate we are gaining (it's actually at a negative rate). Using some logic here – more people are on government assistance than ever before i.e. food stamps. This can be explained by the drop in average wage.
I'm sure some of those people working at the hospital will end up with a labor intensive job instead of their nice air conditioned office.
Sep 7, 2012
Please excuse my typo of [you're] – your.
Sep 7, 2012
Billy Jones GA's minimum wage isn't Obamas decision and yes there are plenty of jobs out there maybe not one that a republican would want to work but they are out there!
Sep 7, 2012
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Sep 7, 2012
How is that minimum wage in GA nationwide minimum wage is 7.15 I made more than 5.15 in 1996 either you are being taken advantage of or you sir are as they say full of it.
Sep 7, 2012
What you are stating is a lie.
Sep 7, 2012
So let me get this straight,Voss,because this guy doesn't agree with your lying liberal,or is it progressive this week?crap,he needs help.But your the fool calling people names because thats what liberal/progressives do.The reason you liars do that is because your platform of lies,deciet,and stupidity,doesn't hold wayter.If you think this lard a$$ed woman ishumble and delightfull your a bigger jerk than I thouight .I can understand a person flim flamed once,but twice?
Sep 8, 2012
Ok people, you can use google just as easy as I can. The national minimum wage is higher than the national minimum wage. Maybe the states have final say? Maybe Georgia is bucking the Feds.
Sep 8, 2012
federal minimum wage 7.25 that 1,160 per month before taxes thanks to obama your paying less now. that makes say abot 900 take home 500 living expence and 400 food not bad
Sep 8, 2012
Annie Connelly Nobody knows who your talking too! If your talking to me then perhaps you need to get your facts strait before speaking on matters that you would have no method of ascertaining.
Sep 8, 2012
Annie Connelly Nobody knows who your talking too! If your talking to me then perhaps you need to get your facts strait before speaking on matters that you would have no method of ascertaining.
Sep 8, 2012
Now that was raciest or perhaps just a white lie < Just Kidding >
Sep 8, 2012
Annalisa Sumaray you address a high school student and you use foul language ? Somebody needs to wash their mouth out with soap.
Sep 8, 2012
no the national minimum wage is national there is no state minimum wage thats why they call it minimum wage because it is the minimum wage across the nation. I have managed resturaunts and research facilities and all those places havethe same thing. Sitting in public sight a big poster that tells you what the National minimum wage is. There is no such thing as state minimum wage.
Sep 8, 2012
Walk in "Repblican Shoes" Ewwwwwwwwwwwww
Sep 8, 2012
Billy Jones if I was you and Georgia is bucking the feds I would get the hell out of Georgia if it's $5.15 per hour minimum wage I at least hope they give you the pleasure of a reach around
Sep 8, 2012
Angie Brown. The issue wasn't that jobs were created or not. Do NOT distract from the actual statement through the use of misdirection. While I will agree that a low paying job is better than no job, the actual statement that Mr. Jones made in regards to Mrs. Obama was "… jobs you can raise a family on …" low paying jobs you cannot raise a family on without a LOT of sacrifice or unless you have multiple low paying jobs as Mr. Jones correctly identified. So in this respect. Mrs Obama. Did. In fact. Lie.
Sep 8, 2012
Sometimes I think that the only 'jobs created' in a month are people who already have a low paying job needing to get another job in order to make ends meet.
Sep 8, 2012
Annalisa Sumaray … I can do simple math also … 11,000,000 people (which is 2 1/2 times the amount the stimulus said it would prevent the loss of jobs of … and also 75% of those on unemployment at the time) times $30,000 (which is solidly lower middle income and far above poverty in every state) for 2 years (twice the amount of time the stimulus was supposed to last) to sit and do nothing is merely $660 Billion dollars USD which is STILL $100B cheaper than the stimulus, would have DIRECTLY affected 2.5 times as many people for twice as long … economics Mr. Obama doesn't get …
Sep 8, 2012
Those that immediately start by throwing the race card … as statistically the most racist people in the conversation. Race had nothing to do with the article but because Mr. Valdez could not think of anything of substance he immediately went straight to the gutter race card throwing. Some people should stay off the internet and keep from proving their own ineptitude.
Sep 8, 2012
I know that it went through a managed bankruptcy just as Mr. Romney suggested from the start. The only difference between Mr. Romney's Auto Industry plan and Mr. Obama's Auto Industry plan was that Mr. Obama's took longer and cost us taxpayers $20B more dollars but it ended EXACTLY the same way. Not that the fawning liberals care about details. Like the difference between Mr. Ryan's Medicare proposal that took the same $700B+ dollars out and reinvested it BACK into the Medicare trust fund to increase it's solvency while Congress worked on a permanent solution, while Mr. Obama's was to go out and spend the same amount to get decreased Medicare ability but more money for an entitlement that SHOULD have waited until our economy had rebounded before we enacted it.
Sep 8, 2012
Technically us going into a 'Second Great Depression' is hypothetical because no one knows for sure. The situation that promulgated the first Great Depression wasn't the same thing as what went into the current recession. Anyone who says that we would have … (insert catastrophic event here) … is a complete liar because we had never been through this exact situation before. So no one knows exactly what would have happened … they just speculate so they look intelligent. Our financial system is completely different that how it was back then, as is the EXACT triggers of the event. But nuances, details, and facts (not to mention ACTUAL research instead of faux research from MSNBC.com) seem to be inconvenient for most extreme liberals. Sort of like Ms. Wasserman-Schultz being caught red-handed on tape in a lie about Israel's ambassador and what she said he said that she denied on camera … Little things like the truth really don't exist to people like her … she said that she was taken out of context … the audio tape of her little speech says differently.
Sep 8, 2012
Brenda Hankins. As a member of the UBC (Carpenter's Union) I would rather vote for someone who will actually get me work than someone who has been promising but can't deliver. 4 years is enough Mr. Obama owns this stagnated mess we have. I will vote for who will get me and my family back to work, not who the union tells me to vote for.
Sep 8, 2012
Facts, proof, or some relevancy would be nice to back up your otherwise baseless accusations.
Sep 8, 2012
Oh no!!! No no no. I was not commenting on the article or the first lady or presidents statements.
Sep 8, 2012
But for the record, as of Jan 1st, 2012, Georgia's minimum wage is $5.15 per hours. This is the third time I've fact checked it.
I do not live in GA. I do not make minimum wage. I am not hurting as badly as so many of the working poor. I wasn't bitching about the system, my life situation, or any public official.
I was just stating a fact that it is mathematically impossible to raise a family on minimum wage, as mr. Voss had stated.
Sep 8, 2012
Just check it yourself. Why are you people so sure that you know a minimum wage in a state you don't live in? Why are you too lazy to type in "Georgia minimum wage" in a google search? Stop calling me a liar and an idiot and just do the easy research yourself. Then, if you are honorable people, apologize. Thanks.
Sep 8, 2012
The reason I can say that is I went to college in GA and worked in arkansas and now work in wisconsin and the thing that they all have in commen is the minimun wage is the same I don't know where on Google you haave been looking but I am speaking from experience. I am in Ga all the time visiting family so I do know the minimum wage stat that you got from google is off. Yes it would be hard to raise a family on minimum wage jobs but it can be done and it's easier than reising one with no job.
Sep 8, 2012
Still unwilling to look online for the truth? That's so sad. You are dead-set to believe something that isn't true, and unwilling to take 10 seconds to verify your facts.
Sep 8, 2012
we recall her saying she didn't like our american ways.
Sep 8, 2012
Bush threw us under the bus is a lie. Franks/Dodd and a Dem. Congress was responsible for that mess. Soros made it worse with his bank deal in Sep.2008. How will bringing troops out of Afghanistan create jobs. Soldiers getting out now cannot find jobs. The military will swell the unemployment roles unless the private sector can create jobs. They cannot do that now with this Pres. BO cannot claim one month of good times. The Dems are liars and Michelle is a Dem.
Sep 8, 2012
Bush threw us under the bus is a lie. Franks/Dodd and a Dem. Congress was responsible for that mess. Soros made it worse with his bank deal in Sep.2008. How will bringing troops out of Afghanistan create jobs. Soldiers getting out now cannot find jobs. The military will swell the unemployment roles unless the private sector can create jobs. They cannot do that now with this Pres. BO cannot claim one month of good times. The Dems are liars and Michelle is a Dem.
Sep 8, 2012
That's not the only lie she told. She was forced to surrender her law license in 1993 to avoid being prosecuted for insurance fraud. The article and many others vetting Obama are on my face book page. Check it out.
Sep 8, 2012
http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm department of labor website breaking down minimum wage for each state. I anxiously await your apology, Mr. Knox. AND AGAIN! I'm not making a political statement for or against any candidate. I was making a point about minimum wage not being a wage that you can raise a family on. I was saying this not directed toward Mrs. Obama's statement, but toward Mr. Voss' claim that a person can raise a family on a minimum wage job. In no way was it directed to Mr. or Mrs. Obama or any other political office-holder or candidate. Why do you people keep assuming I'm talking about what Mrs. Obama said, when i keep saying that it was not my intention? Are you just so ready to have a political fight that you will jump at any comment and twist it to your own ends?
Sep 8, 2012
Go to work for Staples or Dominoes… minimum wage jobs are the only ones he didn't off shore. Good thing Mexicans don't like pizza or paper clips.
Sep 8, 2012
So now the much needed jobs aren't good enough because they aren't paying big bucks. Write your Repug congresman who voted against the President's Infrastructure Jobd bill..What a Party of passive/aggressive flip floppers.
Write your congressman to prohibit outsourcing, ,, that was why Corps got more tax cuts, the Corp got their cuts…but we didn't get the jobs that the trinkle down was going to do..and it wasnt because there werent jobs, they were just trinkled down :to China, Indonesia…instead of the US,,,
A job is a job,,,
Sep 8, 2012
I would like to see you raise a family on minimum wage! With the cost of housing, food, gas, and utilities it leaves nothing to live on. Have you any concept of just how bad the economy is in this country? Promisies and lies doesn't put food on the table!
Sep 8, 2012
dwise78man Well Romney is buddies with Trump and how many bankruptcies has he had? So I would never vote for Mitt. He's only for the rich along with liar Ryan.
Sep 8, 2012
That Lie has been debunked already. Get your facts right before you post more lies.
Sep 8, 2012
Where is the 26 Billion that GM owes the government? If they are doing so great why did they shut down the Volt line? Why did they get in such bad shape in the first place? They were selling cars weren't they? Was it bad management or union greed that caused the problems? Good questions that will never be answered truthfully!
Sep 8, 2012
Where is the 26 Billion that GM owes the government? If they are doing so great why did they shut down the Volt line? Why did they get in such bad shape in the first place? They were selling cars weren't they? Was it bad management or union greed that caused the problems? Good questions that will never be answered truthfully!
Sep 8, 2012
The statement she made saying it was the first time she was proud of our country. Another statement she made saying all of this for a damn flag.
Sep 8, 2012
It was paid back ! It's been documented. Now they are are many people with jobs!
Sep 8, 2012
From GA's own department of labor: Georgia 's minimum wage is $5.15 per hour, however, with some limited exceptions, the federal minimum wage rate applies. Regardless, even the people who are saying these are low income jobs are not saying they are all minimum wage. Quit making up stats.
Sep 8, 2012
Say all you want but unemployment was 7.8% when Bush left what is it now? He also didn't spend 6 trillion on his cronies. I'm quite sure if you donated to Obamas campaign you are doing quite well on the tanxpayers dime.
Sep 8, 2012
Billy Jones, kids, babysitters and those under 16 can make less than the federal minimum wage. Not adults with children of their own. Time to do your own research. Until then, don't put it on others to prove you are wrong when you already know you are wrong. "Georgia 's minimum wage is $5.15 per hour, however, with some limited exceptions, the federal minimum wage rate applies." Not difficult at all.
Sep 8, 2012
Yes, one possible mis-fabrication is quite similar to a speech filled with lie after lie. Paul Ryan can't tell the truth. Neither can Romney. If they did, they would get 1% of the vote. The richest 1% of America. That would be it.
Sep 8, 2012
Every idiot lefty response is to compare her lies to other lies. (Bush, Ryan) Even if they did lie which I'm not confirming or denying, It doesn't make it ok for the first lady to lie to the People. But that's all her and husband have.
Sep 8, 2012
Jerry Burch,
Wow, I don't remember stating exactly which lie she told, but you continue bloviating, ok? The Obamas have nothing but excuses and lies and people like you will continue to gobble them up like the sheep you are.
Sep 8, 2012
Bush did not throw us under a bus. Bush tried to do the right thing and the Democratically controlled congress forced things to go their way. Think the Democrats are so great for the country? Then why is Obama such a failure? Bush was not a failure. He just should not have bent over for the Dems.
Sep 8, 2012
Gee Jerry, if you'd stop thinking about what an amazing person you are, and go read the American Jobs Act, you'd see that your, your YOUR Democrats loaded it to the hilt with earmarks, tax hikes and other B/S that the "'mean ole Republicans" just couldn't vote for…. Stop drinking the kool-aid berother and wake up!! This is how the lying dog Democrats work their ways….. they're nothing more than liars, and as I see it. socialists Obama has done NOTHING but revamp class warfare….. He lies even when the truth sounds better.. Pull your head out of your butt and smell the free air!!
Sep 8, 2012
Blame Bush… blame bush…. what a bunch of crybabies… typical lying dog democrats…. blame someone else, and kill the messenger… you guys are the reason our country is going to crap…. disgusting..
Sep 8, 2012
Annie Connelly Annie.. you're the dumb-ass… since a 6.0 an hour job is appealing to you…. then go sling hash at some rot gut diner… you're drinking that kool-aid Obama is dishing out… while you're at it….. have your kids drink it too
Sep 8, 2012
http://www.examiner.com/article/damning-evidence-from-cbpp-lays-responsibility-for-budget-deficit-on-republicans
Sep 9, 2012
I'll take an open shop anyday before I'd pay a deadbeat union employee who thinks everyone owes them something… Unions are a thing of the past, and they have no place in America!
Sep 9, 2012
Neither Barack no Michelle ever struggled… both came from affluent families.. And actually, Barack has never held a REAL job in his life…. probably why he SUCKS so bad at president……loser..
Sep 9, 2012
She looks like a wrestler with those shoulders. Ugh, no First Lady to me ever. A big bully is more like it. No class.
Sep 9, 2012
Look like the obsessive LYING diseases that your husband has infected you also monkey girl , he is LIER AND YOU ARE LIER we don’t believe any your craps.
Sep 9, 2012
Annalisa, your lying dog democrats had control of the congress the last two years of the bush presidency, and the first two years of "Barack the Magic Negro's ' presidency.. Barack got EVERYTHING he wanted… Did he spend that time doing something about the economy… NO!! He was more worried about that catastrophe called Obamacare…..You can thank your democratic idiots Barney Frank and Chriss Dodd for the housing collapse… Everything he's done is a FAILURE…5.4 TRILLION dollars and NOTHING about the economy is positive!When are you kool-aid drinking FOOLS going to wake up and see that BO doesn't give a rat's ass about you, or any of us?? This is all about ideology… Barack doesn't love this country… he holds it in contempt!! He was raised a communist/socialist, and big government is all he knows. No country can sustain communism… It's been proven time after time…country after country… Communism, and Bearack Obama are sworn enemies of freedom and Capitalism… And I'll take the latter two over a government that wants my pride and love for this country
Sep 9, 2012
Billy Jones- This page from that same website renders your claim that Georgia's minimum wage is $5.15 inaccurate. http://www.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/001.htm
The worker is entitled to which ever is higher between the fed minimum wage and the state. Georgia's workers are entitled to the federal minimum wage. Whether or not this is enough to make a living on is debatable, but it is about 80 more dollars a week than you claim.
Sep 9, 2012
cool aid drinker !………….. check the facts, wake up, and stop being a ship !!!!!!!!!
Sep 9, 2012
cool aid drinker !………….. check the facts, wake up, and stop being a ship !!!!!!!!!
Sep 9, 2012
They went to elites school, both worked !
Sep 9, 2012
Unions are the problems !
Sep 9, 2012
Dem, had house and senate since 2007 ! Check the facts………
Sep 9, 2012
Dream on ! cool aid drinker you and your MSNBC
Sep 9, 2012
What student loan ?
Check the facts, and stop being a ship, use your mind
Sep 9, 2012
Annalisa Sumaray The high school student knows more than you do!
Sep 9, 2012
Annalisa Sumaray The high school student knows more than you do!
Sep 9, 2012
Anita Blue Jeans: Unless "Anita Blue Jeans" is a pseudonym for "H. Scott English", the author of the article above, how could you possible assume my comment was towards you. Should I have wished to comment on your post then, well I would have commented on your post. So keep studying up on those Bill O'Reilly words that no one else uses and have a nice day.
Sep 9, 2012
My fault. It's the way the site is set up. But please go see Obama's America 2016. Also Google this: M I C H E L L E O B A M A P A T I E N T D U M P I N G S C H E M E. Michelle Obama deserves no respect or praise. She is contemptible.
Sep 9, 2012
Thanks, Joshua. And if the General Motors company is still alive, why is it on the verge of bankruptcy, and what are the employees going to do when they realize their pension plans are still at risk. The difference I see between the two plans, is Romney (the businessman) suggested restructuring through bankruptcy on GM's own dime. Obama tried restructuring by stimulous (wasting the taxpayers' dime). GM opened new plants overseas with taxpayers' money. That's called outsourcing on the taxpayes' dime. At least when Romney outsourced, he was betting on his own money. Too many people need a simple high school level course on economics.
Sep 9, 2012
Annalisa… politics aside, you seem to be misled. It seems to me that you’re blaming the poor for their circumstances. This is terribly false for many poor Americans. Let me quote Professor James W. Loewen from his book Lies My Teacher Told Me to help explain to you why the poor have life stacked against them….
Social class is probably the single most important variable in society. From womb to tomb, it correlates with almost all other social characteristics of people that we can measure. Affluent mothers are more likely to get prenatal care, receive current medical advice, and enjoy general health, fitness, and nutrition. Many poor and working-class mothers-to-be first contact the medical profession in the last month, sometimes the last hours, of their pregnancies. Rich babies come out healthier and weighing more than poor babies. Rich babies get more time and verbal interaction with their parents and higher quality day care when not with their parents. When they enter kindergarten, and through the twelve years that follow, rich children benefit from suburban schools that spend two to three times as much money per student as schools in inner cities or impoverished rural areas. Poor children are taught in classes that are often 50 percent larger than the classes of affluent children. Differences such as these help account for the higher school-dropout rate among poor children.
Even when poor children are fortunate enough to attend the same school as rich children, they encounter teachers who expect only children of affluent families to know the right answers. Social science research shows that teachers are often surprised and even distressed when poor children excel. Teachers and counselors believe they can predict who is “college material.” Since many working-class children give off the wrong signals, even in first grade, they end up in the “general education” track in high school. If you are the child of lower income parents, the chances are good that you will receive limited and often careless attention from adults in your high school, in the words of Theodore Sizer’s bestselling study of American high schools, Horace’s Compromise. “If you are the child of upper-middle-income parents, the chances are good that you will receive substantial and careful attention. Researcher Reba Page has provided vivid accounts of how high school American history courses use rote Woodrow Wilson’s recommendation: “We want one class of persons to have a liberal education, and we want another class of persons, a very much larger class of necessity in every society, to forgo the privilege of liberal education and fit themselves to perform specific difficult manual tasks.”
While affluent families can save some money while poor families must spend what they make, wealth differences are ten times larger than income differences. Therefore most poor and working-class families cannot accumulate the down payment required to buy a house, which in turn shuts them out from our most important tax shelter, the write-off of home mortgage interest. Finally, affluent Americans also have longer life expectancies than lower- and working-class people, the largest single cause of which is better access to health care. Echoing the results of Helen Keller’s study of blindness, research has determined that poor health is not distributed randomly about the social structure but is concentrated in the lower class. Social Security then becomes a huge transfer system, using monies contributed by all Americans to pay benefits disproportionately to longer-lived affluent Americans.
“Ultimately, social class determines how people think about social class. When asked if poverty in America is the fault of the poor or the fault of the system, 57 percent of business leaders blamed the poor; just 9 percent blamed the system. Labor leaders showed sharply reversed choices: only 15 percent said the poor were at fault while 56 percent blamed the system. The largest single difference between our two main political parties lies in how their members think about social class: 55 percent of Republicans blamed the poor for their poverty, while only 13 percent blamed the system for it; 68 percent of Democrats, on the other hand, blamed the system, while only 5 percent blamed the poor.”
[All information above is credited to Professor James W. Loewen – Author of Lies My Teacher Told Me, National Bestseller]
Sep 9, 2012
@Barry you are absolutely correct, i didn't read the bottom of the page I posted until later. (damn google!) that being said, 7 dollars and change per hour is still not enough to raise a family on.
isn't it "kool" aid?
Sep 9, 2012
Mr Willis, You need to take a course in reading comprehension then read exactly where the article came from and who the commenators were …. You need to learn the facts and stop being so eager to believe all the socialist/communist lies you are told. Believe in America and search for the real truth.
Sep 9, 2012
OMG how can you people be so ignorant? You cannot find or believe in the truth. How can an intelligent person allow themselves to be so decieved?? Better find the truths before you are thrown under the bus.
The actual jobless rate is over 15%. Thousands no longer qualify for unemployment so they are no longer counted. Very few jobs were created in the auto industries if any. Remember Obama violated our constitution and took over Gm and Chrysler… giving 49% of the profits to the union and the govermnent 51 percent of profits and control to Obama! He then closed all dealerships that did not support him therefore losing thousands of jobs nationwide. He then took GMAC, shut it down and turned it into Ally bank so he could have more controll. BTW Working, income tax paying, Americans are still paying the bills for Gm to the tune of millions each month and with no more auto industries jobs out there. Find the truth!! By the way Bush is not to blame for Obama's desire to destroy America and the previous destruction came from the totally democrat congress that was what Bush had to deal with. They created this mess ….. not all Bush's doing. Again I tell you Find the real truth.
Sep 9, 2012
isn't it Kool-aid?
Sep 9, 2012
don't you mean "sheep"?
Sep 9, 2012
You are correct, Sessa. Everyone needs to know WHO was really supporting them ( Since the only job he has ever had was with the criminal Acorn org.) and how she got her two high paying jobs. I thought blackmail was illegal. Since the dems out there won't believe our truths …. surely there must be some way to get them to search for the real truths. By their ignorance they are contributing to the destruction of America.
Sep 9, 2012
The only party that has come up with any solution has been the repubs and of course the democrat congress always votes them down. You really sound like a socialist/communist dem. You need to remember when Obama reaches his goal of dictatorship there will be no more wel-fare. Socialist/comunnist goverment owns everything and the poor stay poor forever and no more wel-fare checks. YOU need to pull your head from the sand and find the real truth because you are living in the dark on lies told to you.
Sep 9, 2012
He told the truth. YOU check it out.
Sep 9, 2012
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/lawlicenses.asp
stop being a sheep. Do just a little research on your own and you can find plenty of sources to debunk that lie.
Sep 9, 2012
Truth….. Learn from the Nuns speech at the DNC about the lies……
Sep 9, 2012
I'm sure she looks much better than you and is in great shape to be a role model to all woman of America. Jealousy is ugly!
Sep 9, 2012
Danielle Brown- Why don't you take your distorted views and use your brain and get on the next ship out of America! We don't need greedy people like you. Watch the NUNS SPEECH AT THE DNC AND YOU WILL HEAR THE LIES OF ROMNEY AND RYAN TOLD!
Sep 9, 2012
Danielle Brown – You are obviously a big shipwreck and the Romney/Ryan ticket is train accident waiting to happen! You talk about Our Wonderful First lady awful. She did not not wear a dress to the DNC that cost over 5000.00 and shoes that were thousands. She looked and is classy and better suited to be a First lady. Than that phonie and frumpy Ann Romney! She's a fake. She's had hard life.? Really? Many American woman do not have money for needs! Ann wearing that expensive frumpy dress was an insult to the poor hard working people in our Country when she played the hard life card.
Sep 9, 2012
By the way Kool -Aid is affordable and fun. Not boring and dull like you Republicans. Can you learn a new word to use?
Sep 9, 2012
Danielle Brown – You can't even spell Kool Aid right!
Sep 9, 2012
Thanks for reading my post Joy, hope you had a chance to read the whole thing. Now looking at the issue from middle ground both Republicans and Democrats alike have done some great things for America, and denying this being either Rep or Dem would be naïve and single minded to say the least. Furthermore, if you truly believe President Obama’s goal is to become a dictator than well how did you put it, “YOU need to pull your head from the sand and find the real truth because you are living in the dark on lies told to you.” I would love to be proven wrong, but this claim that President Obama’s goal is to turn the government into a dictatorship is laughable and there’s no basis for it… If you have factual evidence to support this radical claim I would love to read the sources you have. Next, you brought up a point about socialist/communist governments, and how they own everything. Well, this isn’t exactly true; it is true that in a communist form of government the government controls everything. However, there isn’t a socialist form of government, there two different things. There can be a socialist society where wealth is evened out throughout the society but wouldn’t be mandated by the government (that’s communism and in practice never has worked out because the wealth never was actually leveled out). In conclusion what I am advocating is giving all Americans a fair shot, by increasing early education and health care access. By increasing Pell Grants so more lower income students can go onto college even if they can’t afford the costs up front. Programs like these can give all Americans a fair shot at success in life. You might call this socialism but I call it opportunity and there’s nothing wrong with that!!!
Sep 9, 2012
Joy Maybe he violated your bush
Sep 9, 2012
Billy Jones Still to call her a liar when she is absolutely correct is equivalent to you yourself being a liar. you can raise a family on minimum wage and you can do much better than minimum wage if you "LOOK". if minimum wage is at say 10% that means 90% are working. This makes it hard to find a good paying job not impossible. I apply for many jobs that are 60k Plus I don't usually get them but I have had a few interviews but there are so many overqualified folks after the same job as me. now 60k is more than enough to raise a family on I make less than 8k now and I raise my family on that because I have too. I have to be creative but I have little choice. Just because I don't like the circumstances I am in is no reason to Michelle Obama a liar she is a sweetheart a very nice person and not deserving the title of liar.
Sep 9, 2012
Yeah well, you know what I think? And this is from an American Indian that was born on a reservation, but my mother moved us away from it! She knew what was really going on! The longer you stay dependent on the government, the less self esteem you have, and that means you start feeling bad, and you don't want to do anything with your life. It's a cradle to grave existence. A socialist to me is a big baby that wants their diapers changed and their government parents to feed them, send them to school, and take care of them till they die! It's so much better to work hard for what you want. If you don't like it here, be my guest and leave! There are so many other socialist countries that will take care of you for the rest of your life, but the USA is not one of them, not as long as people like me and other true Constitutional Tea Party people are alive and breathing! You had your president with his fake lies, his glitz and glamour, his many indecisions, his pandering, and his excuses. He didn't work out and now it's time for him to go. Michelle Obama is a joke. Michelle and Barack both laugh at the little people while they spend millions of tax dollars on their little exploits. It's time to get all the socialists and communists out of our government!
Sep 9, 2012
Tim Perkins The people who run snopes.com are Obama's friends.
Sep 9, 2012
Rick Smith I don't know what you have been watching on CNN but from the tone sounds like O'Riley the rep-tard. I never watch CNN or Fox News because they usually about 90% inaccurate. Even Rush Limbaugh was a complete tard and ended up O.D. on pills. If anyone was a traitor it was Bush if there wasn't such a thing as presidential immunity then he wold probably have already been tried convinced and removed the country. Most people listened to Clinton and know the prosperity that was made by the former president when everyone had money and maybe taxes were high but it sure felt good paying them when you had a job and everything is fantastic. And to every one else that watches too much CNN seriously it is not an Educational Chanel. Go to school take some economic and math classes. One "WAR HAS NEVER BEEN GOOD ON ECONOMY. PERIOD. " For one there are EXTREME COSTS involved in war. It causes ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY and RAISES THE PRICE OF FOREIGN GOODS. Second if your experiencing low cash flow you "DON"T CUT YOUR INCOME SOURCES" Jeez people how blatantly blind can you be. Cutting taxes on the 1% who don't really mind paying taxes, that would re-stimulate our economy, so they could make even more money. It doesn't make any sense, not to me! not to them! and it definitely shouldn't to you. Even Warren Buffett understands that (The Third Richest man in the world). And Rick your in a small boat as the percentage has shifted greatly towards Obama's re-election. Simple thing here is that many who were leaning towards Romney clearly understand the vast amount of pure lies and have opened there eyes. The American people are mostly educated and are able to reason for themselves that arguments given by the republicans will not work. And Romney Really Come On Seriously Romney was Bain’s sole stockholder, CEO, and Chairman when jobs were shipped overseas. When he alone was in charge of Wall Street Corporation that was responsible for Buyout and Ruin of many a small company Just For Profiteering. Romany the Governor that ( Exerpt from wikipedia I couldn't say it better myself)
Romney was elected Governor of Massachusetts in 2002 but did not seek re-election in 2006. During his term he presided over the elimination of a projected $3 billion deficit by reducing state funding for higher education, cutting state aid to cities and towns, raising various fees, and removing corporate tax loopholes; Massachusetts also benefited from unanticipated federal grants and unexpected revenue from a previously enacted capital gains tax increase. He helped develop, and signed into law, the Massachusetts health care reform legislation. The first of its kind in the nation, it provided near-universal health insurance access via state-level subsidies and individual mandates to purchase insurance.
So he reduced funding for higher education cut state aid to cities and towns levied fees increased taxes to the corporations and signed in Obama Care.
He didn't run again because no one would have voted for him. He pulled Massachusetts to 47th in job growth everyone was paying increased fees and Massachusetts lost a lot of jobs. Bottom line is he makes big promises he can't possibly attain. you can't stimulate the economy using his math. It doesn't add up. If you increase fees for corporations then they will go out of business move or restructure (downsize). If you put too much fees on people you destabilize the economy. There is a delicate balancing act between the rich and the poor and if there is a swing to the left or right then you experience what we felt as the great recession of 2008. It started way before that all the way through Bushes Presidency the Economy was in a slump it hit rock bottom in December of 2007 and was finally called a recession. Given the severe trauma to the economy it is clear that there was no way that anyone would have been able to pull us out but Obama took quick action and signed in the 800 billion recovery attempt that quit literally saved the US from slipping into a Depression. And Now the US is Producing Jobs again The Market is moving and there is every reason to believe that US economy is heading to second greatest peacetime expanse since Bill Clinton. So my question to you is why in the world would you want to go back to the same mentality that pulled the US into the recession in the first place. The Tax System is designed to move the money from the rich deliver it to the poor in a method call tax loopholes. In other words the rich get to pay less taxes if they buy things. That is what keeps the money moving or flowing. When those loopholes are closed and they just get to keep their money they put in banks. Why spend if you don't have to. By creating tax shelters Donating Money Buying Things so the Poor segment of society moves to middle class and then you have a strong middle class. giving the rich a tax break does none of us or them any good it only destroys the economy. Rich people must buy Yachts and Cars and Houses and Donate Money and do all the things they used to do. Don't you understand it is simple "ARITHMETIC" If all the money keeps going to the rich there is only rich and poor no middle class then you have the Socialist America you always wanted where there is only wealthy people and government taking care of the poor. The middle class doesn't exist in a socialist republic and that is exactly what Romney Promises as Commander and Chief. Call Obama what you want but the choice is clear. The USA or the USSA. I for one am voting for the USA
Obama 2010 Forward Backward up or down anyway is better than the Direction the US will go under Romney / Ryan,
Yes! HE MUST GO GO GO !!!
2012 Obama Biden I approve this message
Sep 9, 2012
LOL Snopes is not the only possible place to find out information just easy to find and link. I am just amazed how easily people buy into misinformation and refuse to think for themselves.
Sep 9, 2012
More info
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/the-obamas-law-licenses/
Even factcheck.org has fact checked snopes.
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/
its Ok if you don't believe. If even one person reads these links and starts to think for themselves I have done what I set out to do.
Sep 9, 2012
Joy your so far off it is hard to understand where you get your data. I would however ask for a refund. It is that bad. Fist Unemployment statistics come from many places and not just the unemployment office. They are the leading information for economist and schools and government to assess the state of the nation. They are not 100% accurate but they are more accurate than your 15% gestimation. Second FYI Obama is a Constitutional Attorney and probably knows constitutional law a little bit better than a college student like yourself. Third Obama didn't "take over Gm and Chrysler" He invested 80 billion (TARP) money to allow the companies to restructure and retool and become productive again. They closed plant themselves that were producing enough revenue and were dragging the company down. mostly Large Gas Guzzlers that not many people wanted anymore. The companies have allready paid back the money and are now thanks to Obama and the Administration GM is pulled 4.7billion profit in 2010 and Chrysler is still in the Negative. BTW Ford didn't take Federal Money pulled 6.7 billion in 2010 But instead of closing the doors as Bush Admin would have done these Major US Corporations are still in business and will be viable for a long time to come. And as far as find the truth under the republican the Senate Bush had a free meal ticket and requesting billions and billions of dollars for the WAR against a country that had only the smallest part to do with the so called attack on the us. as far as finding the truth you have a long ways to go sister. Google let's roll 911 and find out the real truth. flight 93 NEVER HAPPEND attack on the pentagon NEVER HAPPEND. You fall for anything because you don't take the time to actually google the facts. Twin Towers New York Hit with NON Commercial Aircraft. Look at any picture the planes have a bubble on the bottom not consistent with any Commercial Commuter Aircraft. The war was a hoax and the president a joke. The democratic Senate was necessary to stop the mad man from destroying the US any faster than the fascist pig was able to. He was a traitor and an embarrassment to the US. and any republican elected to the office will continue the agenda to end the US as we know it. don't be in the shadow of ignorance in the information age. It only shows your true ignorance.
Sep 9, 2012
I think for myself all the time and you know what? I don't need to hear a millions lies from a person who isn't doing anything to help make things better. I only need to see their progress and lack therof. And if you are on here defending Obama, then you are not being very honest. The Obamas lie all the time and can never keep their stories straight.
Sep 9, 2012
Annalisa Sumaray :: there is an old saying – "someone that luvs 2 save, will pay double"… cheap stuff will brake often and u will have 2 spend money again; at the same time when u buy quality (will cost more) it will last forever or ( like 10 years from your example).
Sep 9, 2012
I am not here to defend the Obamas. I am merely defending what I believe to be the true same as you. So far all I have seen on your side of the discussion, is .. Nothing factual to support your position. If you had even one legitimate source for proof someone would have linked it by now.
Sep 9, 2012
:: Unions are the cancer 2 any country that are killing economies ::
Sep 9, 2012
I know the difference between right and wrong and my parents taught me morals and if you were not here to defend Obama, then why attack those who are here to speak their mind? People like you make me laugh. I don't need anybody to lead me around and you with your silly biased sources, are a joke.
Sep 9, 2012
Kyle Smiley and Anita Blue Jeans I am addressing you both because you both strike a chord with me. Anita I have a small amount of Indian in me and a little one one me. That little boy I am holding my son is a registered Navajo Indian. My Wife is 100% Indian and Kyle I am also in college and understand what your saying however I am half a century old and have seen more and perhaps my incite will help you make the right decision. First don't buy the lies! Romney about ruined Massachusetts as governor. you spoke of who will do more for business. well here you go he will increase there taxes and yours business like my own will suffer and I will probably just quit trying. I have been fighting to keep my business running for the last 10 years under Clinton I was making 10k a month under bush dwindled to where I could no longer pay rent. Under Obama I had hoped for better but understand the level of destruction he faced. I know a runaround is coming. If Romney wins I close the doors forever. I am in school in case that happens. I will have to seek work with a mega corp that will be able to withstand the beating this nation is about to take. I seen the polls and many people have come to their seances and see through the lies of Romney. He is a money grubbing wall street fat cat at heart and will take all he can get and leave as little for us as possible. As for you my Indian friend. I was raised by an Indian mother that would have nothing to do with her tribe. I don't carry Indian heritage with me but I do understand it. My mother would have nothing to with them by choice. She found them to be lazy and only wanted to collect free government money and drink and buy cars and drive them until they quit and they would leave them in the front yard and do it again next month. Hard lesson and tough love. You can accept what the white man hands you or you can be tough like your ancestors and spit in there faces and say I am better than that! I am worth something, and what your giving me, I am better than that. You have choices and that is why I chose my wife. She chose to leave and do better. She is a strong woman in character and spirit. I adore her for that. That is what being an American is all about! Leave strike out do better. Don't just sit there and take what they give you. This is not a socialist government and never can be. There are some simple rules that our forefather were smart enough to put in place that stop that from ever happening. "By The People for the People" A nation under this simple wording can never be socialist and communism, Please! the Democratic System is far more corrupt and deceitful why do you thing Russia is a democracy Hmm! Honestly both of you need to Vote for Obama for two different reasons but one common goal. But the really true and honest point here is that you both need to make decisions in your life not to count on government and strike out forward by yourself for yourself and succeed on your own. Don't let any one tell you can't or take this or surrender fight as long as you can with what ever you have to fight with. and as khan said "With my last breath, I spit at thee"
Sep 9, 2012
I am defending the truth, to which my previous post stated. My silly biased sources? even Bill O'Reilly from FOX news says that rumor is false, how about that for biased? Only someone who has no basis for their argument resorts to personal attacks. I will be awaiting your reply.
Sep 9, 2012
YEW Peoples on this blog are about the most uninformed people I have had the pleasure of meeting. WOW!
O.K. Before you post do some research just don't post republican lies and fud. Honest how stupid do you have to be to believe even half of the lies. For god sakes people he is the fricken President of the United States and a Former Senator. You don't get a job like that with bad credentials or fake birth certificates or what ever else you have herd.
About.com can't get much more reliable information than that.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/a/Obama-Law-License.htm
Sep 9, 2012
I don't need to see any websites about his college records, or his birth certificate. I know that all his supporters can't explain his four years of failure though. They merely offer distractions from the real issues, and those are issues that Obama can't even bring himself to talk about. When have you ever seen real people, a large group of people ask Obama about his policies, or rather, failure of his policies? Everything is checked out and nothing controversial is brought up. He wants it that way. That to me, is not a real leader. it's only a con man who wants to hide behind his lack of effort.
Sep 9, 2012
It doesn't matter and I really could care less what color anyone is. Obama has failed this country and I will vote for Romney. Romney actually owned companies and helped otihers out. Obama can't explain four years of failure. And he won't. Obama's only job was at Baskin Robbins. He only makes excuses. I know what government dependence is and I don't want it for me or my family. I was born on a reservation, but I never lived on one because my mother was smart enough to know what a lifetime of that would bring, I had an aunt who died, angry, and she lived on the res her whole life. I'd rather make my own way in life without the government's help, thank you very much.
Sep 9, 2012
Anita you understand so little but say so much. Bush had a republican senate for half of his presidency. The people had to control him by electing democrats to control his spending spree. he went from a Clinton Balance Surplus to add 5 trillion dollars to the dept leaving us to pay 10.6 trillion dollars. The interest alone is 1 trillion mild in terms of Obama who payed almost 1 trillion to keep us from collapsing the economy 1 trillion to fight a war he didn't start and 1 trillion to end one he did. that is a mild 37% increase compared to Bush 87% increase. Ya he threw us under the buss and is categorically the worst president in US History. He left office saying at least I did what I believed. If that statement was true then he did it on purpose. The last thing I want in the world is to have my baby pay for the net increase of Republican Control of 11 trillion dollars. Time to bring the budget back under control start paying down the national debt and have a smart balanced budget again. The Romney plan doesn't have that it contains lies like we want to reduce taxes on the rich and and with all that extra money pay down the debt. Oh yeah by 2040 LOL Ryan said that! Sorry but you can't quit your job and pay for the car with all the extra money. There math is insanity they know it but the truth is that they have no plan. If Romney were to take office. We have seen this before in Mass where he said he would increase jobs and lower taxes well he increased fees and taxed everyone so heavy the hated him. He taxed large corps and they left and no new ones would start there because of taxes. he left with the unemployment 3rd worst in the nation. He does know how lie he doesn't know how to lead. With Romney as President under a republican senate he will increase everyone's taxes rich. corporations. poor. middle class it doesn't matter you will pay more in taxes he will stifle job growth and guess what Obama care will remain. That was passed and the best he could do even with a republican senate is bring it for vote to repeal in 4 years. by that time the senate would probably be Democratic Control and would never pass. So the chances of him actually getting a repeal would be negligible and there would be considerable obstacles to even introducing a bill he would be going against some of wealthiest families in the world pharmaceuticals and insurance companies probably couldn't even get it to fly not to mention the courts already said the law change was constitutional they would have a lot to prove. But the thing that really sets with me is that the same type of medical bill was passed by him in Mass. So Hmm! He is probably lying about that too!!!
Sep 9, 2012
Actually Obama right after college worked at an office job before becoming a community organizer in the streets of Chicago. So, depending on how you define the term "job" you might be right when you say his only job was at Baskin Robbins. Furthermore, your example of living on an Indian reservation I agree wouldn't make many people feel good about themselves if they were completely depended on the government for their existence. However, that’s not what President Obama is advocating. He is advocating giving middle class and working class Americans a fair chance at early education, college funding, health care just to name a few examples. This isn’t complete dependence of the government by any means; rather it’s giving many less well-off Americans a fair shot at making their own way in American. For example helping poor Americans pay for a college education so after they can get a good paying job and don’t have to depend on the government. And I completely agree with your last statement, “I'd rather make my own way in life without the government's help, thank you very much.” Perhaps a little snotty the way you said it but completely true that almost every American would rather make their own way without the governments help. And for even many poor Americans this is possible for them to make their own way. However, for many more Americans making it on their own completely, just isn’t possible. Working class family’s that can’t afford to send their children to early education options, sure these families would love to make it on their own but just isn’t possible. Ok, it is possible for their child to still be “ok” however once they enter school they already will be at a huge disadvantage compared to their better off peers. Be honest Anita, is this fair, and is this the America we want to live in – Where Education is only for the privileged? These examples I am almost certain won’t change your mind, and that’s fine. But I just wanted to explain to you the other side of the issue.
And for anyone thats interested this article gives an interesting take on how much of a difference the President really makes…
http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2012/08/24/gautam-mukunda-indispensable/
Sep 9, 2012
All the more reason to vote Obama.
Republicans as quoted by Clinton are saying we ruined the country Obama didn't fix it fast enough so put us back in. For what?
Screw it up even More.
No Thank you!
If you honestly don't want handouts don't take them and I say bravo.
But the Nations problems were created by the Republican Party not the Democratic Party.
Ronald Reagan:
Took office January 1981. Total debt: $848 billion
Left office January 1989. Total debt: $2,698 billion
Percent change in total debt: +218%
George H.W. Bush:
Took office January 1989. Total debt: $2,698 billion
Left office 20 January 1993. Total debt: $4,188 billion
Percent change in total debt: +55%
Bill Clinton:
Took office 20 January 1993. Total debt: $4,188 billion
Left office 20 January 2001. Total debt: $5,728 billion
Percent change in total debt: +37%
George W. Bush:
Took office 20 January 2001. Total debt: $5,728 billion
Left office 20 January 2009. Total debt: $10,627 billion
Percent change in total debt: +86%
Barack Obama:
Took office 20 January 2009. Total debt: $10,627 billion
Total debt (as of the end of April 2011): $14,288 billion
Percent change in total debt: +34%
So we have A Good President Who started with an economy that was starting to collapse, at war, and in 4 years we have only increased the national debt 34% and that is compounded by the 1 trillion in bailouts and 1 trillion in interest. I would say the Obama Administration and Special boards have done an incredible job even considering the constant obstacle of the Republican Senate that have done everything in there power to make sure you stay oppressed like they blocked the president's job's bill that would have added an estimated 100 million new jobs to the market. That alone is the best reason not to vote in a republican they can't even do what is right and good for the country over their own ambition. Many times the commander and chief has to strong arm his bills through congress. Like with Obama Care. Probably the greatest Medical Advancement In US History to take away the ability of insurance companies to decide who lives and who dies. He has not really been even allowed to do his job so how could you sit and judge his performance when you don't even know what it is yet. Further more let me ask you this. Is Canada a Socialist Country? are they Communist? Of course not they are a Monarchy yet they have a Better Health Care System and Economy than the US. That is right we are behind Canada but now we have a competitive edge against them. If the senate would step aside their grandstanding and special interests and focus on the economy as job #1 then would have been out the recession already. They have managed to have our credit rating dropped and block health care reform and block jobs creation. So what they messed it bad they continue to mess it up and they want my vote. NOT IN MY LIFETIME. Obama 2012
Sep 9, 2012
Anita Blue Jeans Oh Yes one more thing (Romney's) Bain Capitol Destroyed People. Ruined Companies Outsourced Jobs and Guess what You Got to pay for it. He never helped anyone but himself. Obama can't explain 4 years of failure because he never had 4 years of failure. His administration has excelled at stopping an economic collapse ending a war calling the end to another war Osama bin Laden in Dead. AL Qaeda Vanquished Taliban disbanded Economy recovering we are no longer experience 250,000 jobs lost per month but 100,000 created each month. It may not be as good as some would wish for but it is far from a failure. Are you better off than you were 4 years ago. Hell's Ya. Do you want to go back to where we were 4 years ago with the stock market crashing ING failing Wall Street Crashing at war with no apparent end in site after 4 years. Money being forked (laundered) over to Halliburton who's ex vice president happened to be Dick Cheney. Corruption and Deviation at every corner. No Way! we can't go back.
Sep 9, 2012
You need to stop talking I tried to be nice to you but your just flapping your lips spreading your flame for Romney if you don't want to educate yourself perhaps you should join the welfare lines and take your handouts because that is all your going to get from your lover boy Romney. And when he leaves there will be a $3.00 bill for ya on the night stand.
Sep 9, 2012
Anita Blue Jeans The problem here is you don't think. You don't want to see the truth you want to live with your convoluted image of the liar and his partner in crime that you want to be something there not. But they are charming just not president material. Perhaps you would be better to buy a campain poster and put it over bed and leave politics to the rest of us who do think.
Sep 9, 2012
It was but we really don't know what side of the fence she is on. The Kool-aid moniker could come crashing through at any moment. On the other side of the fence where it is cool to have aid's well Hey Kool-aid. The moniker strikes again
Sep 10, 2012
Before Bush Left Office almost 1 billion jobs were removed as well not to mention the stock market was crashing During His Dismal Career he had very low job creations numbers +0.51%1st term and -0.81 second term worst record since Franklin Roosevelt in the Depression at +0.44% Lowest number posted by any president EVER. Barack is +0.84 not bad considering the first 2 years were spent in recovery mode. Second term predictions are going to be much higher maybe as high as +2.0 to 3.0. So do you want a job or do you want to go back because I am sure after the mess Romney left mass in you would be looking at next worst record. although -0.81 damn that is messed up
Sep 10, 2012
Say all you want but when he started as president the unemployment rate was 4.4% he inherited the best economy in US History and within 8 years Destroyed it threw us into war and cost us 6 trillion dollars I am sure Halliburton will never disclose where exactly all their NO-Contract Bids Money was dispersed. Do it again. Sure why not just get the National Debt so high so that the Largest Lender can Foreclose on the good Ol'US and you can were Chinese cloths for the rest of your life.
Sep 10, 2012
Amazing how these liberals have been so well brain washed that when either Obama's lie, they find some way to cover it either by blame or an excuse. A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE…MOOCHLLE LIED AS USUAL LIKE HER HUSBAND AND THEIR BOTH THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITS ON EARTH ALONG WITH THEIR DRONE CULT LIBERAL FOLLOWERS!!…PATHETIC THE LOT OF THEM!! MOOCHELLE LIED AND THIS NATION CRIED!!!
Sep 10, 2012
Angie Brown OBAMA IS NOT ONLY THE BIGGEST LIAR, HE IS ALSO THE BIGGEST HYPOCRIT ON EARTH…You brain washed drones just do not realize how pathetic you are!! You do nothing but blame blame blame FOUR YEARS LATER and find continual excuses for this worthless joke of a president!! WAKE UP allready and look at the damage this person has done to our nation. HE GIVES THE SAME O PROMISES AS HE DID IN 2008 for 2012. He can't even come up with new ideas for his campaign! How stupid are you libs?? He didn't fill ONE promise in four years and is promising the same o things for another four years??? W T F!!!!
Sep 10, 2012
There is definitely ONE thing that left liberals are great at and that is blame blame blame and excuses for everything. FOUR YEARS LATER AND THEY ARE STILL USING THE SAME BLAME GAME! Can you imagine starting a job and keep blaming everyone around you for the next four years! You wouldn't have a job after one year. Blamers and excuse finders are complete losers and lip flappers but nothing else!
Sep 10, 2012
Care to explain Obama's role in the housing market crisis? I bet you didn't even know that he used to brag about being born in Kenya, did you? Please keep blaming Bush for everything though.
Sep 10, 2012
I don't care about you, or any other Obama supporter being nice to me! How can you defend someone that lies and makes excuses so much? Take your phony nice-ness and shove it!
Sep 10, 2012
Annalisa Sumaray Your a biggeer liar than both Obama's put together and that is pretty big. The republicans in the House have tried to pass many many bills to help out and you know were they are at???? THEY ARE SITTING ON REIDS DESK WHICH HE IS COMPLETELY IGNORING!!! When republic. won the HOUSE, REID swore that he would not read or pass ANYTHING that comes from them on his desk. People have seen REIDS desk and you cannot see his desk anymore it is so much mail on it!! That is how democrats act like small children throwing temper tantrums when they lose!! EXCEPT this is hurting ALL of the people in this country which REID apparently does NOT CARE!! YOU WANT TO BLAME SOMEONE, BLAME REID FOR STOPPING ANY MAIL OR BILLS FROM REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE TRYING TO HELP!!
Sep 10, 2012
Republican policies always work, until the entitlement crowd wants a hand out. No thanks. I will never vote for Obama! The man and his wife are condescending! When they went on vacation after vacation while people were struggling, that told me enough. They don't give a damn about anyone but themselves! If this country is smart enough to see through all this Obama praise crap, Obama will lose and I and a large group of my friends will see to that happening.
Sep 10, 2012
Brenda Hankins UNIONS ARE WORTHLESS PIGS THAT SIT AROUND ALL DAY COLLECTING MONEY FROM WORKERS WHILE THEY SIT AROUND AND DISCUSS WERE TO BEST SPEND THE MILLIONS THEY COLLECT OR WHEN TO HAVE THESE WORKERS STAGE A SITIN TO FORCE COMPANIES TO GIVE THEM THEIR WAYS. ALL THESE WORTHLESS UNION PEOPLE DO IS HAVE LAWYERS SITTING AROUND WAITING TO JUMP ON A COMP. WHILE WORKERS JUST KEEP GIVING 1/3 OF THEIR PAYCHECKS TO THESE UNION PIGS. ON TOP OF THAT UNIONS GIVE MILLIONS TO THE PEOPLE THEY WANT TO WIN FOR THE PRESIDENCY WITH THE MONEY FROM THE WORKERS WHO DO NOT NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THEIR PICK!!! UNIONS NEED TO GO ALONG WITH OBAMA. SEND THEM ALL TO KENYA!!
Sep 10, 2012
Tim Perkins FUNNY HOW IT ALLWAYS BECOMES A LIE TO A LIBERAL WHEN THEY DON'T AGREE WITH IT!! Michell DID lose her license for exactly that reason and the left lib media just keeps covering things up! YOU are the sheep and the brain washed drone that will belief every lie that the Obamas blow out of their a s s e s!! Moochelle is not only a liar, she is also a nasty racist hater and is putting up one hell of a show!!! WAKE UP and look at all the lies told to you so far by Obama. ALL the promises from 2008 and not ONE he fullfilled. Obama is now making those same promises AGAIN because he knows there are idiot brain washed drones like you that will keep voting for him no matter what he does or doesn't do!!!
Sep 10, 2012
Joshua GM made good and paid back the loan in full. And Why well we had some very bad foreign what they call trade deficit where we were importing more foreign vehicles and with NAFTA exporting our Automotive Industry to Mexico caused a Trade imbalance that rocked Detroit. the volt line is down while they retool for the new impala the volts will begin popping off the line late September. And no when people have a hard time getting jobs and they are uncertain when they have a job if the economy is going to crash well not a good time to buy a new car. Sales plummeted and banks stopped lending money seeing as the seemed to foreclosing on a record number of homes. negative job creation and a dwindling economy spurred the worst and longest recession in US history. This caused the automobile manufactures to have to file bankruptcy they were not able to sustain record company losses for such a sustained amount of time. This was caused by Bush and his poor understanding of basic math. His idea was to get the economy moving to create tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and give everyone in America a small amount of tax refund about 8.00 on average it was a poor decision. that finally ended in the worst recession since the great depression. Math dictates that loosing your economic base and depleting your reserves is not a way to increase revenue and increase your reserves. Who'da thunk it. Republican Arithmetic of reverse economics or Reaganomics for short.
Sep 10, 2012
Jealous? oh dear you really are stupid talley tweed.
Sep 10, 2012
Kerry Voss Dude! I never called her a liar. can't you read? i said that you can't raise a family on minimum wage, whether it is 7.15 a hour, or 5.15 a hour, which some places can still pay in georgia. I was saying that your math was flawed. Of course, you are crazy and decided to rant and write 10 pages of crap on here, but the problem is that you aren't comprehending what i'm saying, which makes me wonder if you comprehend any facts when they are put before you. I think, instead, that you just follow along with whatever you are told to believe. next, you'll be talking about chem trails and 9/11 being an inside job.
Sep 10, 2012
Milly Westbrook your a fool in fools clothing not only are you and idiot you look like one. I guess your were not alive while bush was rapping the economy for 8 years. And while Obama has been nursing it back to health and putting America on the right track your trying to send her back to the same rapist that beat the heck out of her and stole all her money. Your the one making excuses while Bush was busy bilking trillions of dollars from our system your rape mate was busy putting the screws to Massachusetts Giving her the worst economy with the 3 worst job record in the US No Growth. He may be able to bilk the US of millions of Dollars and make us pay for it. But he has no business in politics. He couldn't make it as Governor and would certainly make a horrible president. He has no plan. and the US is in One Heck of a better shape than it was when Bush Left. And talk about Promises As Governor the incumbent made is platform Jobs Jobs Jobs and what did Mass Get Tax Tax Tax and the third worst job record in the nation. If you think he is telling the truth? Well he isn't. he will not make the US Better He has no Comprehensive Plan and He has a Bad Track Record. That equals the worst US Disaster since Bush. The worst part of it is that some uniformed people are still out there and they need to be warned. The Wolf is in the Sheep and he is wearing Sheep Clothes.
Sep 10, 2012
Anita Blue Jeans Cute but really Romney has been caught in so many lies it is pathetic. I read the facts and base my decisions on those facts. Your not willing to read so therefore your comments are based on your imagination fairytale land and have no basis in fact. I have to be nice I have a wife and a baby and I gave you a fair shake. I think everyone deserves that. But you don't have any intention to learn the facts and then want to make excuses for one of the worst Wall Street Criminals Bain Capitols CEO and LIAR. Don't Sit There are Defend a person when you don't even have a clue that this man is NO GOOD. Because you don't read then you have no concept to base that decision on. Wake UP your not a Sheep you don't have to follow the pack. Read for your self this man is more dangerous than Bush and Obama put together. I am not here to say that Obama is angel and if you vote him you will live in a mansion with butterflies but at least you will not be in a ditch chasing the flies off your food. (and that is the reality). The republicans royally screwed up the US Economy BAD and now they want to finish the job. No. No Way No Way No Way. Please Read for the sake of this country learn what he did to Mass As Gov learn about Bain Capitiol and how they Milked us US Taxpayers for Millions. Don't close you're eyes and throw a dart and hope you pick the right man. Study make an informed decision.
Sep 10, 2012
Billy Jones Your kind out there in left field. The article above called her a LIAR. Do you not read? or just randomly comment? and no I don't know much about chem trails sorry but 911 look at the facts. If you sit around with your head buried like an ostrich then you will look at the world with the wrong eye. I am not telling anyone to believe anything I say. I am not hear to preach. In fact there is a lot better things that I could be doing seeing as today is my birthday. But when I see so much misinformation and just plain wrong information and out and out intentional lies. I can't help but think that nobody is interested in finding facts on there own. A simple Google search before posting FUD will go a long way towards better understanding of the world you live in. Educate yourself. I am out of here now because I do have a lot better things to do. I am 49 years old today I have a 3 year old baby on the 17th and I attend ITT Technical Institute for Network Systems Administration. I am the CEO of ITNetwork Designs and Program in PHP I do Database Integrations with MySql MsSQL Oracle and PostGres Databases. I also have HTML5 CSS3 JavaSript and JS frameworks Technology to implement full Web Applications. Not to mention I am very good at Graphic Designs and spend a great deal of time designing websites top down. I am not someone who lacks education. As an Honorably Discharged US Veteran of the USAF (helicopter Mechanic) and 12 years as and Auto Mechanic. I am not one who tolerates ignorance. Nor do I wish to spend my time educating. But damn you people are in need of a little push O.K.
Sep 10, 2012
What does all that have to do with Obama's role in the housing market crash?
Sep 10, 2012
It is Not Bushes Fault at all. It is Ignorance like yours that would believe such a fairytale. Unless Kenya is somehow owned by the US he wouldn't be President. Don't believe everything you read but read. And use some common sense. For one there would not be a Housing Crises if Bush would have kept his on the ball. Having a Job Growth of -0.81 is just uncalled for. The Housing Market didn't crumble because people couldn't afford the loans from Mac and May as the REP Tards would have you believe. The people could afford them if they could have kept their jobs or if they had lost them had the ability to get another one. And yes the buck stops with Bush. He was the leader of the free world at the time unless you believe there was a different leader. He alone made the decision to enter into a war knowing full well the US economy couldn't withstand a prolonged war. He was a week little man that had no business engaging in war let alone being president of the US. The Usual Dems know how to Engage in war and get the damn bloody thing over with. Look a Clinton that is how to US the power of the strongest nation on earth to Engage your Enemy with overwhelming power and get out 48 hour war with Granada. 6 years in Iraq Seriously you think that was smart. The worlds most powerful Military takes 6 years to not even Defeat a small little underpowered 3rd world nation. Obama took us out in 2years and proceeded to fight the right war. and finish that in 2 years. That is the way you do it. Republicans are week. We were attacked because we were week. So No I don't Blame Bush I Blame Uninformed Voters that for him. Ignorance that exceeds the norm knowing he was a bad president and doing it again. and Now when faced with the most important choice of who our commander and chief should be knowing that the economy is getting better knowing that the US is strong in foreign relations would Screw it up and vote for another week little man with proven record of economic flatulence. Romney will put us back on the road of decay that Regan Bush and Bush started. 10 trillion dollars of Debt. And yet there those that for what ever reason don't see the big picture.
Sep 10, 2012
Michael Mozz There are 2 sides. Unions formed because our government couldn't or wouldn't control large corporate bosses. Unions were the formation of the people to stop the greed and corruption of large corporations. Then the Unions became the Large Greedy and Corrupt factions themselves. They are a necessary evil but no they destroy economy's they do level the playing field. but what destroys economy's are those that buy any from countries that don't have unions or minimum wage because they are cheaper. Outsourcing Services and buying products that are not made in America or not controlling import export to makes sure our products are available overseas. Do you think you will see a Ford in China. You see that is the problem. We buy there stuff and they don't buy our stuff all our money goes to them and our own products are only bought here. It is a sham to believe that Unions are a Cancer it is actually the other way around corporations are the cancer and unions are a product of the corporate greed.
Sep 10, 2012
Milly Westbrook Your just full of non-sense if you weren't in high school I would be seriously telling you see a shrink but I know for the last 10 years our schools have been failing and your product of that lack of attention. Republicans have done enough damage. They should be seen and not herd. after adding 10 dollars of dept it is time to stop them not encourage them to pass more of their bad ideas. and if anyone listens to Unions it is the Republicans. Dems don't listen to special interests nearly as much republicans that there whole campaign and careers are based on special interest. In fact they might just as well where the corporate logo of the company they represent or endorse. But unfortunately that is the reality we live in there is big money in lobbying and no one turning there back on the money. But Unions are as dirty as the corporations the problem is not with them. It is in the fact that lobbying and accepting large corporate or union is legal. that is what is wrong. There should be no reward for doing your government job that is the corruption that need's to stop. And honestly quit with the Kenya Crap it is old and worn out someone submitted a false bio on Obama and dumb arses believe it is true when there too much evidence that Obama never said he was from Kenya and he never filed any paperwork stating he was from Kenya if you believe that then you need to find another school with better teachers because your teachers are obviously not getting the job done. FYI you have to be a US Citizen Born in the US to be president. Stupid just Stupid Dang people if you come here and post at least try to sound intelligent it is like talking to children and I do that all day with my 3 year old. I would bet he is smarter.
Sep 10, 2012
Geez your dumb.
Sep 10, 2012
Geez your dumb.
Sep 10, 2012
Tweed girls look good. camille's pick WTF you got no room to talk. I would do Michell if single i would do the tweeds CUTE!! but you Ugly Camille your words are Ugly and your Pick is Ugly.
Sep 10, 2012
your a raciest pig so no one cares what you say and your spelling is atrocious. "craps" really
Sep 10, 2012
SOS you just keep saying the same lame stuff so nobody cares what you say anymore. put some facts in or your rambling. You have lost credibility. If your so smart lets see. you say "Blame" ok then what do you have to say about BUSH Jr. He took office with 4.4 unemployment No War and left 7.8 unemployment and in a 6 year war with no end in site 6 Trillion added Debt. Who's fault is that?
Sep 10, 2012
Nice
Exerpt:
The results of an analysis by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP) released late yesterday demonstrate that the Bush era tax cuts, and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan account for virtually the entire federal budget deficit projected through 2019.
It is not about blame it is about cold hard facts
Sep 10, 2012
Raciest? The race card is old and worn out, and should be returned to you for lack of funds.
Sep 10, 2012
ABJ Explain the lies and excuses. You speak of them but please do tell. Even the fact finders couldn't find many lies and most baseless like G.Washington never had wooden teeth. Stupid because he was making reference to someone else entirely. If that is best they can do what do you have? Your just here spreading FUD and have nothing important to say. Just the same rabble. How do your consider this article has any basis in fact. She said there are jobs Real Jobs that you can support a family on. How is that a lie when there are real jobs and jobs you can raise a family on 60,000 jobs I have applied for hundreds there available I didn't get one but they are there. At best she may have not stated how many or gave a rundown on the entire US Job market but a lie is a serious implication that there was facts delivered that were untrue. There were many delivered by both Romney and Ryan. But very few delivered by the Obama's or Clinton.
Sep 10, 2012
ABJ what is not racist about monkey girl. It is like if I called you a dirty engine or sand nigga. it isn't nice and has no place anywhere. Geez your dumb
Sep 10, 2012
I really don't care about name calling. If you get angry with someone for calling Michelle a monkey girl, then you must deep down, agree that blacks look like monkeys.
Sep 10, 2012
I really don't care about name calling. If you get angry with someone for calling Michelle a monkey girl, then you must deep down, agree that blacks look like monkeys.
Sep 10, 2012
@ Milly Westbrook SO Bill O'reilly is left leaning liberal media? I wonder how he would feel to hear that! How do you know what I believe? Do you know me? Have you ever talked to me before? No you are making assumptions about me based on this one issue I have commented on. I keep laughing at your entire response. Your response Like every other one in this thread lacks any factual base or even stays on topic, even the very excitable Mr Voss linked yet another website to show his side of the argument and I will link another to support mine. Neither you nor any of your fellow conspiracy theorists in this thread can prove the accusation ( just saying it is so doesn't make it real)
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/transcript/bill-oreilly-separating-fact-myth-regarding-president-obama
Sep 10, 2012
Bush tried to look into the funding from Fanne & Freddie SEVENTEEN times, yet Barney Frank and Chris Dodd told him not to worry, that there was enough money to cover the sub prime loans. Obama was a lawyer for ACORN and pressured the banks to grant loans to minorities or face being sued for racial discrimination.
It's very easy to call names without looking at the cold, hard facts, isn't it?
This isn't mine. I copied and pasted it.
* Real unemployment is now 19%.
* If the labor force were the same size as when Obama took office, the reported unemployment rate would be 11.2% – NOT 8.1%!
* A record 88,921,000 Americans are no longer in the labor force.
* The average American lost 40 percent of their wealth from 2007 to 2010.
* Every fifth man in America is out of work.
* One out of two Americans are now low-income or below the poverty line.
* Over the past four years, 400,000 food stamp recipients a month have been added to the welfare dole.
* In 2006-2007, 90 percent of college graduates landed jobs. Under Obama, just 56 percent find work after college.
* A gallon of gasoline cost $1.84 when Obama entered office. Today, a gallon of gas costs $3.77.
* Every fourth home mortgage in America is underwater.
* Under Obama, healthcare costs have skyrocketed 18.9 percent.
Sep 10, 2012
So what your saying is Bush is responsible. You just don't know your saying it. Here is the bottom line unemployed people lost there homes. Bush caused a landslide in jobs creation and when he left office the unemployment rate was already in free fall. Obama did a fantastic job of catching it and stimulating the economy and yes now the jobs market is back. it hit a record high of 10% and now at 7.8 and falling soon to be back at the pre-bush era of 4.4 provided Obama is allowed to do his job.
Sep 10, 2012
Bush added 4 trillion in 8 years. Obama called him "unpatriotic" for taking out loans from China in the name of our children.
What does Obama do? He adds not 4 trillion but 5.5 trillion. Not in 8 years, but in 3.5 years!! That's at 3 times the rate Bush added to the national debt! Must now be patriotic to do so.
Sep 10, 2012
Obama OR America?
Unemployment ~
When Barack Obama took office: 7.8%
Now: 8.3%
Median Household Income ~
When the President took office: Almost $55,000
Now: Less than $51,000
Price of Gas ~
When the President took office: $1.85 per gallon
Now: $3.78 per gallon (almost double!)
National Debt ~
When the President took office: $10.6 trillion
Now: Exceeded $16 trillion
Violent crime ~ rising under Obama
Gun sales ~ rising under Obama
The Muslim Brotherhood / "Arab Spring" ~ rising.
Persecution of Jews & Christians ~ rising.
We'll stop there. For now. Pass it on. Vote!
Very Sincerely,
Christians for Mitt
Sep 10, 2012
Tim Perkins That was the funniest thing I ever heard. Bill O'really Defending the Dems. But you couldn't find a better link if you tried. That said it all folks. O'reilly the hard hitting conservative bull has just put a hit on myths.
Sep 10, 2012
FactCheck is run by the Annenberg Group. Obama is on the Board of directors.
Sep 10, 2012
O'Reilly is not a conservative. He's a Libertarian. Tell me again how you are so intelligent. You don't even know who is who, or what is what, Kerry Voss!
Sep 10, 2012
Tim Perkins Fox and OReilly have been tamed by Media Matters and the Soros machine. They are democrat shills, that's why Geraldo is featured.
Sep 10, 2012
liked your comments. thank God somebody is paying attention.
Sep 10, 2012
Jerry and Jeff…Tell that to the thousands of college grads who are flipping hamburgers for a living. There is no one to blame but your Alskiny Apostle.
Sep 10, 2012
Angie…Stated like a true useful idiot Obot troll.
Sep 10, 2012
Yes that's a pretty serious misspoken truth. HOWEVER, if the Republicans are put into power, those minimum wage jobs that are putting people back to work will pay LESS. The Republicans want to eliminate minimum wage and allow employers to pay only what they think the employee or the work being performed is valued at. That means that millions of minimum wage workers will be earning less, AND that they will formally be working below the poverty level (if they aren't already there). Further, the Republicans will eliminate the social safety nets that keep these workers from becoming homeless, sickly, and without any means of support.
Yes… the Republicans are bad for us.
Sep 11, 2012
Kerry Voss
You seem really impress by MONKEY GIRL I’ll bet you’d drag your Balls cross mile of broken glass just to here monkey girl fart long distance .Or maybe you just have fascinations of jamming your little pencil DICK up her BIG BLACK SMELLY POOP SHOOT . That does sound Yummy to you?
Sep 11, 2012
Kerry Voss
You seem really impress by MONKEY GIRL I’ll bet you’d drag your Balls cross mile of broken glass just to here monkey girl fart long distance .Or maybe you just have fascinations of jamming your little pencil DICK UP her BIG BLACK SMELLY POOP SHOOT . That does sound Yummy to you?
Sep 11, 2012
You seem really impress by MONKEY GIRL I’ll bet you’d drag your Balls cross mile of broken glass just to here monkey girl fart long distance .Or maybe you just have fascinations of jamming your little pencil DICK up her BIG BLACK SMELLY POOP SHOOT . That does sound Yummy to you?
Sep 11, 2012
Kerry Voss
You seem really impress by MONKEY GIRL I’ll bet you’d drag your Balls cross mile of broken glass just to here monkey girl fart long distance .Or maybe you just have fascinations of jamming your little pencil DICK up her BIG BLACK SMELLY POOP SHOOT . That does sound Yummy to you?
Sep 11, 2012
You seem really impress by MONKEY GIRL I’ll bet you’d drag your Balls cross mile of broken glass just to here monkey girl fart long distance .Or maybe you just have fascinations of jamming your little pencil DICK up her BIG BLACK SMELLY POOP SHOOT . That does sound Yummy to you?
Sep 11, 2012
Kerry Voss Slick willy Clinton and obama is the same as the rest of obama’s friend he is not Terrorist or white hating preacher BUT he is a LIER TO THE WORLD with his finger to camera ,WOMANIZER,CHILD RAPES , PERVERT , THEFT ,HE IS CHEAT ON HIS WIFE and committee perjury HE WAS IMPEACHED , and he was disbar , And the list go on..making him a predictable choice for and ANTI Colonials like obama . Anybody believe him GULLIBLE,STUPID AND COWARD ,LEECHES Hungry SEX as hole.
Sep 11, 2012
@Kerry Voss If you spent as much time looking for a better job as you do commenting on this page, you'd be making at least 12,000 dollars a year. Sadly, i just don't see a non-graduate of ITT tech getting a 60k a year job. I wish you the best though, Kerry.
Also, are you really telling me that you support a family on 8,000 dollars a year, with NO other income or assistance? I call b.s., my friend. Pull the other one, as Monty Python used to say.
Sep 11, 2012
I think you look more like a monkey girl than Michelle What does that have to with LiE being a racist and you being a bigot.
Sep 11, 2012
BJ I am a non graduate because I don't start class till Sept 18 the day after my son turns 3.I carry 3 collage degrees USAF BCTI AND SPSCC Two mechanical and one computer degree. ITT is just more education. And yes you read right I don't have much money but I have much love. I could make more but family is too demanding on my time. My wife is handicapped with a broken hip bone and that has been ongoing for 6 months and the bone isn't healing. So I have to take care of my baby and my wife I have no time for just me. and yes 8k annual that is about 650 a month some months better some worse on average. With creativity and rigid planing it can be done. I could easily get a 60k job not as a network admin but as a web designer/programmer yes I can but should I accept a position like that who would take care of my baby and my wife. I would have to pay someone 32k to assume my position and I wouldn't really be comfortable in doing that either. It is a burden I must do and I do. I wouldn't want to miss a second of sons first years he is that special to me. A gift from above. Not very often a man of my age gets such a gift and I treasure that more money.
Sep 11, 2012
sorry about the typo's but I am very tired and spell cheker is POS
Sep 11, 2012
Li E your English is atrocious for a university student. And no Obama and Clinton are two different people entirely. Clinton called Obama an "underachieving white back". Non the less he was the president with the best record for economic expansion and job creation. While creating a Surplus and a maintaining a balanced budget. And so what if he had the presidential staff attend Monica's needs. Hillary is still with him. Makes you wonder what really is going on. Probably Bill was getting sucked off while Hillery what lick 'n the kitten. So if you just want to make up stuff use your imagination. You sound's more like you need you some sex in your oval orifice.
Sep 11, 2012
You never answered my question. Why would you get angry over Michelle Obama being called monkey girl? I have black friends. I never thought of them as monkeys. Perhaps to this person, Michelle looks like a monkey. She wouldn't be the first to say that, nor the last.
If you want some real racism, why don't you read Obama's book, or Michelle's college thesis. They hate white people and the richness of this country. You really don't know what is going on here, do you?
Sep 11, 2012
so, you mean the "typo" when you misspelled "college"?
another question: Kennedy assassination – CIA conspiracy or Oswald working alone?
Sep 11, 2012
A BJ Did you read what I posed above your post. Republican Policy's NEVER WORK. and you and your friends are a minor group small and insignificant because Obama is AHEAD in the Polls. If you don't like him you don't have to vote for him. But when you come here and just lie and spread rumors that are untrue and you wish to remain an uneducated uninformed voter then your the sheep that keep America in the red. Just to remind you:
Ronald Reagan:
Took office January 1981. Total debt: $848 billion
Left office January 1989. Total debt: $2,698 billion
Percent change in total debt: +218%
George H.W. Bush:
Took office January 1989. Total debt: $2,698 billion
Left office 20 January 1993. Total debt: $4,188 billion
Percent change in total debt: +55%
Bill Clinton:
Took office 20 January 1993. Total debt: $4,188 billion
Left office 20 January 2001. Total debt: $5,728 billion
Percent change in total debt: +37%
George W. Bush:
Took office 20 January 2001. Total debt: $5,728 billion
Left office 20 January 2009. Total debt: $10,627 billion
Percent change in total debt: +86%
Barack Obama:
Took office 20 January 2009. Total debt: $10,627 billion
Total debt (as of the end of April 2011): $14,288 billion
Percent change in total debt: 34%
so Ronald 218% increase Bush Sr 55% one term Bush Jr 86%
Republican Policy NEVER WORKS
Bill Clinton 37% and Barack Obama 34%
Democratic Policy ALWAYS WORKS
Sep 11, 2012
LOL!
Sep 11, 2012
Kerry Voss Ah so now it makes sense! Obama signed his Obamacare bill and now you don't want it taken away, because your wife is handicapped and you are afraid for her future. Well that makes sense, I suppose. No wonder you want Obama re-elected. I suppose you also like the idea of the IRS going directly into your bank account as well? How about a chip placed in your body? It doesn't matter what the rest of the country wants, because you only care what YOU want. Every liberal has their price.
Sep 11, 2012
You seem really impress by MONKEY GIRL I’ll bet you’d drag your Balls cross mile of broken glass just to here monkey girl fart long distance .Or maybe you just have fascinations of jamming your little pencil DI.CK up her BIG BLACK SMELLY POOP SHOOT . That does sound Yummy to you?
Sep 11, 2012
message me anita, if you don't mind. i want to share a theory with you.
Sep 11, 2012
pimp kerry, You seem really impress by MONKEY GIRL I’ll bet you’d drag your Balls cross mile of broken glass just to here monkey girl fart long distance .Or maybe you just have fascinations of jamming your little pencil DI.CK up her BIG BLACK SMELLY POOP SHOOT . That does sound Yummy to you?
Sep 11, 2012
Kerry Voss http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/downchart_gs.php?year=1900_2012&chart=H0-total I think your math is wrong again… or someone skewed the numbers (aka lied about them) to make it seem different than the truth.
Sep 11, 2012
i mean someone skewed the numbers from the website you cut and pasted from….
Sep 11, 2012
You spend a lot of time just dribbling bout the rooten people in thw WH. Get a life! DemocRats are bottom feeder worse than carp ruinin this country and you ugly stupid libtards go along with it. People like you shouldn't be alloed to vote. You don't know squat bout nothin so quit pretendin ya do.
Sep 11, 2012
Anita Blue Jeans SHE IS SHAPE APE AND LIBTURD KNOW IT
Sep 11, 2012
also, you are saying percentage of change in 2 years is 34%… in 2 years for President Obama. extrapolate that for 8 years or a per anum percentage or monetary value. i'm not supporting any candidate or party, but just disputing your math, again.
btw, under Roosevelt (democrat) the national debt went up 673%. i'm just saying. you should never use never unless you are sure….
Sep 11, 2012
i mean fdr, not teddy.
Sep 11, 2012
woodrow wilson increased the national debt by 468%. coolidge/wilson presidency the national debt went down…..
Sep 11, 2012
Well your facts are way off. Bush added 5 billion in 8 years and cased the great recession last term landslide that caused immediate and great expense to counteract. Obama worked fast and in two years brought the economy under control and the US is now creating jobs and now we can work on getting the budget back under control. Bush was reckless with spending and administration. The current deficit is caused by 2 things Republicans and War. I would be lying if I said that I commend Obama on his war in Afghanistan. I was always against it and even so more Against the war in Iraq. They were unnecessary and costly. But at least Obama ended one war and the second war has an out date and is very much already won. 23,000 pulled and the end will be in 2014. So not too bad. The single most important point is that the Bush era tax cuts are in large part responsible.
http://www.americanprogress.org/press/release/2011/06/07/14863/release-bush-tax-cuts-responsible-for-the-debt-frenzy-in-washington/
So here is the real math. Under war the military budget has to be increased.
So here is republican math were spending more money so let's cut taxes.
Obama has been saying all along to get rid of the bush era tax cuts and yet the senate if refusing. So I say to ABJ how is any of what you state the Democrats Fault. It isn't. Sorry but your math is misguided. Obama from the start has said the way to fix Americas problems is to repeal the bush era tax cuts and if the republican controlled senate is not willing to be part of the solution then they are the problem and need to be delt with accordingly by voting for Obama in 2012 and send the Republicans a message that we are not buying your boatload of crap. If your not for America your against it. Let the president do his job and we would not only not be out of the recession but we would be having an economic expanse. For everyone else in every other state when the elections come for senate a vote for a republican in the senate is a vote against America. We need to stop putting them in power because they continue to screw thing up. A vote for Romney will do this for America. Put us back on track and we will keep spending more money and reducing taxes. That doesn't make sense. Romney will take a woman's rights away to have the freedom to choose an abortion in even if she is raped or incest or just too young. Middle class family's will see huge tax increases and large corporations will face a tax increase. Business will be stifled and the US will not only enter the greatest depression EVER it likely not ever recover. Even now there are tent cities in almost every major city of people that have lost homes jobs and the blame lies strictly on the republican party and you would actually vote one in for another term. you don't seem to learn your lesson. Bush Sr lost because the US was tired of going BACKWARDS. Bill Clinton lead the US into the greatest peacetime expanse ever with 4.4% unemployment for the first time in history employers were having a hard time finding workers. Then what the heck happened who had the brain fart to vote for Bush Jr and lead us into a era of negative job growth and war and tax cuts for those that didn't need them, fiscal irresponsibility and a 5 trillion dollar increase in the national debt. The worst record of any president in the US PERIOD. And they still continue to screw us even though we have a Democrat for president. Sheep are stupid and keep voting the only party that has a continuous bad economic record. I am truly worried this election because people remain in the dark and would still consider a republican what is wrong with you people. Don't you want money and jobs? Your sure not going to get it from Romney He has a track record of failure in Mass. The only thing he has succeeded in is Bain Capitol bilking millions from us taxpayers and destroying jobs. That is all he does. That is not what America needs we need jobs we need the senate to put the tax system back the way it was before bush jacked it up if you want to see America succeed quit voting for republicans
Sep 11, 2012
So I don't get what your saying your kind of rambling on. your chart however accurate it may be is not indicative of the dept increase per president and yes I did pull them from a site that I didn't actually check the numbers but they seem accurate enough. and I didn't feel the need to go back as far as FDR TR Woodie or Coolidge or Taft or Washington or Lincoln that would make a very large useless chart.
Sep 11, 2012
If you can find better numbers feel free to post them
Sep 11, 2012
you carry 3 degrees from "collages." Use the chart I sent to map out the presidents yourself, and do your own math. If you do the math honestly, perhaps as a year to year change, and then put the presidents on the chart, i think you'll be surprised.
Sep 11, 2012
BJ & A BJ Not it all She is covered anyway and Obama dosn't have his down my pants but Romney has his hsnds down your pants and is rubbing hard looking for G-Spot. And by G I mean Grand like 1,000,000 Grand. And your getting off on it. BJ No Kennady was never assasinated he lives with with Elvise in the Whitehouse "What kind of Weed you smokin".
Sep 11, 2012
Yes ABJ a Conservative who calls himself a liberal is a libertarian. Hmm your math is as good as the republicans why don't you quit your job and with all the extra money buy a new house and a car. Come on now Wake up you living in some fairy tale land of make believe. A far left Libertarian is a Conservitive Fool he can call himselft what he wants but if you put lipstick on a pig it is still a pig.
Sep 11, 2012
Yes ABJ a Conservative who calls himself a liberal is a libertarian. Hmm your math is as good as the republicans why don't you quit your job and with all the extra money buy a new house and a car. Come on now Wake up you living in some fairy tale land of make believe. A far left Libertarian is a Conservitive Fool he can call himselft what he wants but if you put lipstick on a pig it is still a pig.
Sep 11, 2012
Yes ABJ a Conservative who calls himself a liberal is a libertarian. Hmm your math is as good as the republicans why don't you quit your job and with all the extra money buy a new house and a car. Come on now Wake up you living in some fairy tale land of make believe. A far left Libertarian is a Conservitive Fool he can call himselft what he wants but if you put lipstick on a pig it is still a pig.
Sep 11, 2012
Li E You sound like you have done it before.
Sep 11, 2012
Anita Blue Jeans Why are you here! Do you know what the white poeple do to your people. Or perhaps you like to see your relitives on social services and confined to reservations. If not then your on the wrong side and don't even know it.
Sep 11, 2012
Lisa Edward Hey you sound like a nasty little tramp. who likes to take it in rump. So yes to answer your question I will be your pimp and you can get out in the street right now and start selling that thing and give me the money I will take care of you. Now go before I cut your face
Sep 11, 2012
No I think you will be suprrised when I say No! the numbers I provided are close enough. If you wish to dispute then Do so! Put up or shut up as we say in poker. Sorry for typo I do a lot of typing really fast and seeing as this is not a college thesis, I don't really give a damn about my grade. LOL. If it were I would check all the grammer twice and make sure it was perfect before submitting. It is much easier, to not make mistakes, when typing simpleton oneliners, similar to thee ones you type. But I am a very complex individual and I don't feel that one liners truly express ones beiliefs, but mearly form a curtain to hide behind there own inadiquacy. Only using simple words and not forming complex thougts is what our govenment expects of it's sheep.
Sep 11, 2012
Kerry Voss
The only think your capable of cutting is the cheese . and I m sure when u do people for miles around will projectile vomit just the way they would if they had to look at your face. I m sorry for revering to Gorilla girl as a simple monkey Girl . She is way more Gorilla then a cute little monkey I wont make that mistake again when I bash GORILLA GIRL !!
Sep 11, 2012
You are utterly disgusting! Any woman would have to be fricking braindead to want to make it with you!!!! If a man talked to me the way you do, they would have their face slapped! No wonder you defend Obama! You and his followers are all piece of sh&t!
Sep 11, 2012
Kerry Voss LibTURDS DemocRATS Gorrila girl http://emptysuit.wordpress.com/2010/03/18/michelle-obama-faces/
Sep 11, 2012
The first Lady Gorrila vote By libturd democRATS paid flunky infants democratic suck up http://www.google.com/search?q=monkey+michelle+obama&hl=en&rlz=1T4GGLL_enUS340US341&prmd=imvnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=AplPUMnVIarj0gGl8IHQCg&ved=0CCAQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=601
Sep 12, 2012
You people crack me up! Li E you just say anything don't matter what, like a little girl just jabbering. I am glad the world is full of different people and I enjoy them all. I really hate to burst your bubble but Obama is going to win 2012 and there isn't too much you jabber about that is going to change that fact. Even calling Michelle a Monkey Girl isn't going to change anyone's mind. She could have downs syndrome and make that stupid face and beat her curled hand against her chest and Her man could actually be a woman with a sex change and they could throw wild orgies in the white house every night with cockain and mariwana and still Romney wouldn't win. You can throw all the raciest remarks and misspelled cyphers you want and it will not make a difference. People are looking at the bottom line the Republicans have added 10 trillion to the national debt and forced at least 4 trillion on the Dems. So that is Dems 3 trillion and Republicans 13 trillion. Obama is just the better choice. Why because he and she are Democrats and Democrats Know How To Get The Job Done!
Sep 12, 2012
Now you talking! you just called 80% of the US Population Pieces of shit good job A BJ
Sep 12, 2012
Li E Good Tomatoes those people is. It's not the democrats that are ruining the country it is people like you with your head so far up your arse that you add new meaning to the phrase "shite faced". If you actually bothered to do any study at all then you would know that Romney has a proven track record of Lies and Inability to lead. If you want to make blanket statements like he is ruining the country I say back it how. By leading this nation out of a war he didn't start and finishing the war that was supposed have been fought under the Bush Admin? Or was it because he reformed insurance companies so that stockholders couldn't decide weather or not you live or die or your children can afford drugs to make the pain go away and prevent them from dying. To make sure that if you have a terrible disease like cancer the insurance company can't say well we have paid too already so were not going to cover you. or if you loose your job they can't say well you had cancer before so go die somewhere else. Or was it because he saved the US from Catastrophic Failure from 8 years of mismanagement under the Republican President. So Where are we now? Are we better off than we were 4 years ago? Yes Bush left office with the economy in a downturn of his own creation. He had a year to fix it and did NOTHING. He Started a war and had no idea how to end it. Obama ended the war in Iraq and we are now withdrawing from Afghanistan 23,000 were with drawn and there is a small crew there now to finish the clean up and we will have full withdrawal by 2014 Al-Qaeda and the Taliban are Defeated. Two years into his term as president the Job Loss stopped created by Bush and the Bush era Tax Cuts. Jobs are being created and the economy is out of the recession it started in. Yes Yes Yes you are better off today then you were 4 years ago and to add to the good things you can now go get insurance if you can afford it no matter what. If you have a Disease like Diarrhea of the Mouth then you can go treated and they can't tell you that you had that before we read this blog and you defiantly had it before so we can't treat you. YES they can now they have to it's the law. and I recommend it.
Sep 12, 2012
Joy why don't you study surly your school must have some sort of internet or maybe books. I am in school also and I am paying 44,000 for 2 years. I spend a lot of time studying and raising my family. I know how hard it is, especially considering there chosen career field LAW it would seem to me that they would have to study far more than I do. I know only a handful of people that go to school and don't struggle. Considering there background I would have to call B.S on you.
Sep 12, 2012
dwise78man It takes brass to accuse a man of doing what your doing. as coined by Obama. Basically Ryan and Romney are doing the same thing. Same thing Romney did Mass promise jobs that was his whole campaign JOB'S JOB'S JOB'S
Sep 12, 2012
What did they get Taxes Taxes Taxes The worst job record 47th in the nation and Obama Care. Check the facts I'm just saying he does have a leadership record it is just Awful. The people of Mass wouldn't re-elect him why should we?
Sep 12, 2012
Your wrong about that the 1% wouldn't vote for him either. After what he did to Massachusetts. I am a firm believer that Warren Buffet was not even kidding when he said that he and his class didn't mind at all paying taxes. It makes America Stronger and They make more money having a strong middle class. So if they did tell the truth or if Americans did a little study and see what he did as a Governor of a the small state of Massachusetts they wouldn't even get ONE Vote. He wouldn't even get ONE Vote if ran as Governor of Massachusetts again. In fact because he is running for President he will not get ONE Vote from Massachusetts. Think about it people is that who you would want running your country?
Sep 12, 2012
You wish it were 80 percent and yes ALL of you are.
Sep 12, 2012
You are all caught in a barrage of lies that the republican party is assembling to discredit everything and every they can. Problem is with they also comes the biggest upset in our history when Obama is elected because of all lies. The republicans are loosing bad and so they are throwing wild punches to attempt to win because they have shown their hand already. All they have left are lies and people to help spread those lies are not doing Romney any good. First JRM when she said it was the first time she was proud of our country she said it loud and strong. when she said what you quoted that she said it was a in a private whisper that was apparently interpret as that but the reality is that school that they quoted looked at the tape and that was what she said said that they never saw nor interpreted that video. Another republican lie. She could have been saying anything it is really difficult to tell I have seen the video it is on you tube but I can't tell she could have been saying many different things to me it looks like she said wra foo foo foo. Bottom line is nobody herd her say anything so it is not a statement she made. some suggestions are from a real collage: The majority view was that she said, "It's amazing how they fold that flag." Others thought she may have said the words, "I wonder if they flew that flag." So there is truth another Romney lie is that who you want to be your president. Obama 2012
Sep 12, 2012
Honestly with people like you on Romney's side 80% to 90% is not going to be a problem. You are making the whole social network listen. When they listen then they seek facts. When they seek facts Romney looses. So thank you for your support Obama 2012
Sep 12, 2012
Lisa Edward – You're just a moron. Seriously.
Sep 12, 2012
Russell Cooper – One of Barack Obama's first jobs was at Baskin Robbins, you dolt. His single mother was far from affluent.
Sep 12, 2012
Psst…unemployment is only.3% higher than it was in January of '09. That's not bad considering what Obama was left to deal with. Up until 2 1/2 months ago I was a registered republican (I'm now unenrolled). I voted for Obama in '08 and I'm doing so again in November. Since they shut down Ron Paul, the GOP has become an embarrassment that I no longer want to be affiliated with. I think Michelle was accurate in her speech, and she's a lovely, graceful woman that I hope remains our FLOTUS for another 4 years.
P.S. If you are a woman voting for Romney, I'm ashamed.
Sep 12, 2012
Russell Cooper do you believe in flying monkey too! Communism! the U.S. Really? Get some more college
Sep 12, 2012
You're so naive you think the media tells the truth, haha!
Sep 12, 2012
Thank you! most of these people have no idea that monster they are supporting. There should be not one woman voting for Romney period. He is a woman's worst enemy. And yes Ron Paul was the Candidate of Choice. He actually made sense and had a good track record. Problem was he was not as good looking or an eloquent speaker like Romney. I must admit when I watched the republican convention that for a brief moment I thought he could honestly delete Obama. Very Charismatic but I don't follow what I think a good looking charismatic guy could do for this country. I follow what has he done that would make him a great leader. Bottom line is NOTHING. Bain Capitol was just another wall street scheme to deprive tax payers of their money. His record in MASS is what changed my mind mostly he just messed up their economy big time. He couldn't even run again because of the mess he made of Mass. So now he want's to president. No Way. He is just repeating the same lies that he told the people of Mass and if Elected will not carry out one promise that he speaks. For instance he states "I WILL REPEAL OBAMA CARE". OK here is the lie and the plan. Mitt Romney as Governor of Massachusetts well I am not going to type it all here.
check this:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_health_care_reform
and here:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney
In other words "NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE"
His plan is the same care plan with Romney in front of it. That's right folks RomneyCare. Brought to you Romney Styled. If you would like the name of ObamaCare to Be changed to RomneyCare then by all means vote for Romney the only real changes to the policy will be that Women will never have a say about abortion. and health screenings like mammograms and pap smears will not be covered.
Bush Era Tax Cuts will remain unless a Democratically Controlled Senate can overpower the President and extend the Recession another 4 to 8 years. Jobs will be lost and Corporations will crumble as they did in Mass. The only way out of the mess were in is to get rid of Bushes Tax Cuts that caused the housing crisis and the recession and we will feel those effects until 2019 according to Center on Budget and Policy Priorities or 2040 under the Romney Plan (They said that). I am not telling you who to vote for but to look at the fact's you make up your own mind
Sep 12, 2012
Kerry Voss – Honestly, I watched the entire RNC and the entire DNC. The RNC was ridiculous, and I cringe at the fact "Governor" Romney gloats about the good he did for MA. Here's the truth. He failed my home state, and Governor Deval Patrick has spent the past 5 1/2 years trying to clean up the mess he left (sound familiar?). Romney doesn't want anyone to know that he took money from schools in impoverished communities in Boston that didn't even have enough books or desks for the children,to re-renovate schools in wealthier communities (places like Cambridge, Brookline, and Wellesley). I heard one school even got a pool for their swim team, but don't quote me on that part because I'm not sure if it's true. He also cut childcare assistance for working families on welfare, forcing them to quit their jobs as they could no longer afford someone to look after their children. Many people, like Romney, believe that if poor people can't afford such things for their children, they shouldn't be having children. I don't think that should ever be the case (maybe limit it to 2 children). Being poor doesn't equate to being a bad parent. In many other countries, it doesn't matter how much money the parents have as the child belongs to the community and is welcomed as such. As far as Romneycare goes…it's actually working fairly well…not as well as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act probably will, though.
Sep 12, 2012
Tyronne just to straiten facts a little I am not condemning you as there are some funny things going on between acorn and FactCheck but definitely not worse that Cheney/Halliburton First Obama is not on the Board of Directors. He Was However the Chairman of the Board 95 thru 99 Now there was a large span of time between 99 and when Obama became president so it is not a conflict of interest. However there are some advantages to being affiliated with a organization that former COB becomes Presidents I would expect they get more favorable donations and grants. As do Acorn and Schools he attended ect. ect. ect. But is it wrong. Is PAC Money Wrong? Are Lobiest Wrong? Are Unions Wrong? There is lots wrong with our government and I would wager a bet that if Romney wins, Bain Capitol will become one of the largest companies in America. It is what these A holes Do!
Sep 12, 2012
Tyronne just to straiten facts a little I am not condemning you as there are some funny things going on between acorn and FactCheck but definitely not worse that Cheney/Halliburton First Obama is not on the Board of Directors. He Was However the Chairman of the Board 95 thru 99 Now there was a large span of time between 99 and when Obama became president so it is not a conflict of interest. However there are some advantages to being affiliated with a organization that former COB becomes Presidents I would expect they get more favorable donations and grants. As do Acorn and Schools he attended ect. ect. ect. But is it wrong. Is PAC Money Wrong? Are Lobiest Wrong? Are Unions Wrong? There is lots wrong with our government and I would wager a bet that if Romney wins, Bain Capitol will become one of the largest companies in America. It is what these A holes Do!
Sep 12, 2012
Kerry Voss A Far Right Libertarian correction
Sep 12, 2012
Thank you for the additional information. But RomneyCare as proposed had to fixed twice. But yes it is nice to have health care. My point on that is he said he would repeal it and most people don't know the fact that he want's to do same thing. His statements were that he liked many of the Obama changes and in fact when I cheeked his budget it includes every every expense and debt of the Obama plan. Nothing Changes but really the name and some small line items. Ryan wants to privatize Medicare and have a Corporation be in charge if he get's his way but that is not in the budget so probably not going to happen thank god if they should actually win. Hey the American Voters Voted for Bush TWICE so I don't really have confidence in peoples ability to educate themselves. But should you want some more and these are not from left field people there from Wikipedia the largest online information portal in the world. you could do the work yourself not that hard.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan
This guy is more wishi-washy than John Kerry.
look as his record
excerpt:
Fiscal, education, and health care policy
Ryan voted for the two Bush tax cuts (in 2001 and 2003),
the 2003 bill that created the Medicare Part D prescription drug benefit,
the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP),
the $700 billion bank bailout.
Ryan was one of 32 Republicans in the House to vote for the auto industry bailout.
A number of commentators have criticized Ryan's votes for what they believe were deficit-causing policies during the George W. Bush administration as being inconsistent with fiscal conservatism.
In 2011 President Barack Obama criticized Ryan as being "not on the level" for describing himself as a fiscal conservative while voting for these policies, as well as two "unpaid for" wars.
Columnist Ezra Klein wrote in 2012 that "If you know about Paul Ryan at all, you probably know him as a deficit hawk. But Ryan has voted to increase deficits and expand government spending too many times for that to be his north star. Rather, the common thread throughout his career is his desire to remake the basic architecture of the federal government
Kerry Voss wrote "He is just too extreme and unpredictable to be the Vice President of the United States of America".
Sep 12, 2012
Anita Blue Jeans Your almost there. keep posting the more you post the more people get interested. I absolutely believe 40% of everything I read. Unless you type it then that goes down to 0%. I don't give you any credit for saying anything of any intelligence on any post I have read of yours. You state no facts your always changing the subject. your inconstant, insulting and you have a complete lack of social skills.
Sep 12, 2012
Anthony Zarrella
Anthony Zarrella · Bowdoin
Whether you think war in general, or any war in particular is good or bad, the fact is that jobs may (or may not) be created by starting a war (e.g. defense manufacturing jobs or whatnot), but *ending* a war does not create jobs. Why would it? A bunch of soldiers come home and add to the pool of people looking for civilian jobs, the demand for military supplies decreases, and somehow, this magically *makes* jobs? In what industry? To serve what demand? With what new influx of corporate capital for hiring?
Reply · Like · September 6 at 11:41pm
Sorry took so long to respond but there were lots of time wasters on this topic. Ok to address your response:
War has never ever been a good thing to any economy look at history ww1 ww2 Korea Vietnam shouldn't be hard to Google and find out that information. I am sorry but I am out of time and can't do anymore fact finding for you but I have in the past and I know what I am talking about. Bottom line is War is a HUGE EXPENSE and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out. Now when solders return not all choose to leave the military. So it is not like there is a big rush to find jobs. but if we are paying 150,000 solders salaries then a good majority of money is not being spent at or around their home base. If they live off base then some of the money may go to there families to pay rent but most of it is spent overseas that is a boost for the enemies economy. If put in the bank still it is not feeding the local economies of our military bases. The biggest increase would be from not having to dole out trillions of dollars in military expense. Next comes economic stability from not being in a war people are more willing to bet in futures and invest. So yes it is a kind of magic it is called peace
Sep 12, 2012
http://www.inquisitr.com/325765/romney-to-keep-parts-of-obamacare/
I am moving over to this topic by the same author Said very much what I have been saying all along Mitt Romney is a big fat lier. who mislead people into thinking he was going to repeal ObamaCare. Here you lady's and gentlemen.
Sep 12, 2012
Kerry Voss, you have the nerve to say I am being insulting, after you basically typed your little perverted fantasies on here about me and Romney? How about I throw something equally disgusting right back at you? Now you want to play the victim and say I am being insulting. I take back what I said, when I stated that a woman has to be braindead to get with the likes of you. She's got to be blind, desperate and dumb as well. She's handicapped, so that says it all. Go to hell, you libtard jerk!
Sep 12, 2012
I am part white, you moron! Only a libtard jerk would worry about someone's skin color! That's why libtards like to vote Democrat so much, so they can keep blacks and hispanics in their place and in the ghettos and out of their neighborhoods and out of their way! Where I live, blacks, whites and hispanics live together in peace a harmony! They are all sick of Obama's lies! They know the media is on Obama's side and would never say anything bad about him. And they are all my neighbors and they are all voting for Romney!
Sep 12, 2012
The legend is that Stanley Ann Dunham was an anthropologist. Although she earned a Ph.D. in anthropology from the University of Hawaii in 1992, she wasn't. She was an interpreter at the U. S. Embassy, a program officer for the Ford Foundation and eventually an international banking consultant.
Stanley Ann traveled around Southeast Asia, pursuing a career in international banking and rural development that took her to Ghana, India, Thailand, Indonesia, Nepal and Bangladesh.
Being and anthropologist fits the Obama narrative better than her real role as a tool of "fat-cat bankers."
Stanley Ann went to work for the Ford Foundation from 1981 through 1984. She was employed as a program officer for "Women and Employment" at the "Regional Southeast Asia Office of the Ford Foundation in Jakarta.
She lived in Pakistan for the five years beginning in 1987 and ending in 1992, living at the Hilton International Hotel. During this time, Obama visited his mother and stayed for a few months. Stanley Ann was hired as a consultant by the Asian Development Bank for Pakistan Agricultural Development Bank’s Gujranwalla Agricultural Development Program.
Stanley Ann also worked for the Ford Foundation and Women’s World Bank, establishing micro-credit loans in developing countries. Her antipathy for America and Americans didn't prevent her from funneling its money to third-world countries.
Sep 12, 2012
see! you can feel free to dish it out but you can't take it. I started by being nice to you. your the one who turned it around and insulted me. And now your little fantasy world is crashing in on you because your just a nasty foulmouthed jerk. And no I am not the victim here it is rather you who was sucking up all the lies of reptards and actually believing them. You have no one to blame but yourself for being a shallow miserable misguided and uneducated child. I am sorry if your sex fantasy now include me but I am taken. Romney is too. So you will just have to look somewhere else to get your thing on. pervert
Sep 12, 2012
Actually democrats had house and senate until Jan. '11. Democrats still have majority in senate but the republicans have the house majority. Clearly you didn't check your facts hard enough…
Sep 12, 2012
Actually democrats had house and senate until Jan. '11. Democrats still have majority in senate but the republicans have the house majority. Clearly you didn't check your facts hard enough…
Sep 12, 2012
Confirm:
Majority Leader of the
United States Senate
Democratic Leader
Incumbent
Harry Reid
since January 3, 2007
Sep 12, 2012
Confirm:
Majority Leader of the
United States House of Representatives
Republican Leader
Incumbent
Eric Cantor
since January 3, 2011
Sep 12, 2012
A BJ Well finally some facts from you but it has nothing to do with this topic. it has me believing that your just completely insane. Just spouting off random crap please don't post anymore you just a wast of time and space.
Sep 12, 2012
oops tiered as coined by Obama should say as coined by Clinton
Sep 12, 2012
ABJ your just plain out and out retarded. The media has been hammering Obama from the beginning. The problem is that your sucking up what the media is saying and mirroring hear and saying that it not from the media. You can't even get your own story strait. Ok here is your first lesson in politics how can you tell if a candidate is lying. It's easy there lips are moving? How do separate fact from fiction? You read!
Fact: Obama policies are Working
Fact: Romney Screwed up Massachusetts Economy
Fact Bush Screwed Up the US economy
Fact: Clinton had the best economy of any president EVER
Fact: ObamaCare is based on RomneyCare
Fact: Romney anti-woman
Fact: Romney Bilked millions from taxpayers using Bain Capitol by making the company look good on paper selling that company and the unsuspecting purchaser is left with a company destine to fail and who pays for that. WE DO.
Fact: Romney will give you less jobs more taxes and another recession.
You can keep badmouthing the president and I must admit he is a liar but Romney is a liar with a proven track record of disaster. Ryan Can't figure out if he is a Democrat or a Republican and has a vote of no confidence from both sides and was probably the worst choice for a Vice President.
Sep 12, 2012
ABJ your just plain out and out retarded. The media has been hammering Obama from the beginning. The problem is that your sucking up what the media is saying and mirroring hear and saying that it not from the media. You can't even get your own story strait. Ok here is your first lesson in politics how can you tell if a candidate is lying. It's easy there lips are moving? How do separate fact from fiction? You read!
Fact: Obama policies are Working
Fact: Romney Screwed up Massachusetts Economy
Fact Bush Screwed Up the US economy
Fact: Clinton had the best economy of any president EVER
Fact: ObamaCare is based on RomneyCare
Fact: Romney anti-woman
Fact: Romney Bilked millions from taxpayers using Bain Capitol by making the company look good on paper selling that company and the unsuspecting purchaser is left with a company destine to fail and who pays for that. WE DO.
Fact: Romney will give you less jobs more taxes and another recession.
You can keep badmouthing the president and I must admit he is a liar but Romney is a liar with a proven track record of disaster. Ryan Can't figure out if he is a Democrat or a Republican and has a vote of no confidence from both sides and was probably the worst choice for a Vice President.
Sep 12, 2012
At least she has a job and isn't living off the sweat of other people's brow,
Sep 12, 2012
BJ highly unlikely and how is you can judge me. you don't know anything about me. So stop guessing. As fact of the matter, other people live off the sweat of my brow dumb ass.
Sep 12, 2012
You make 6 grand a year, by your own admission. Even if you have a job, you are getting eic over what you are paying in taxes. Therefore, someone is paying you to have a kid. They are forced to subsidize your family by the IRS. If that is your idea of someone else living off your sweat, then you must be living in the arctic circle.
Sep 12, 2012
You are indifferent to the fact that the job numbers would be much higher if President Obama had enjoyed ANY support from Congress; instead they voted against the American Jobs Act and now are blaming him for the high unemployment numbers. Typical of the GOP –blame Obama for the results of their efforts to prevent his 2nd term at any cost. They have turned Congress into a forum for obstruction. They need to be voted out.
Sep 12, 2012
Remember, their only concern was to make sure Obama had only one term.
Sep 13, 2012
If you can't read or need glasses put them on and read that little sentence by my name. Seeing as you have none I would better to guess that you are living off welfare as you probably don't actually have a job. I can imagine that your some entitlement hog sucking the life out of businesses like mine. and then with all your free time you have nothing better to do come here and make baseless statements about situations that you have no method of ascertaining, perhaps to make yourself feel better in some sick twisted manor. This can further be deduced by the fact that you have no idea of what minimum wage is. There is no way you convince me that you are not on welfare.
Sep 13, 2012
If a company is doing poorly, you don't fire the staff You replace the CEO. Just Keep passing the blame. I do agree with 2 terms & out for EVERY congressman & senator.
Sep 13, 2012
In this case the "company" is doing poorly because of an obstructive staff. They need firing!
Sep 13, 2012
I'd like to know what universe Mr. Burch is living in. All of the jobs supposedly created by Obama are low paying. And the amount (4.5m) have been proven False. As to blocking the so called jobs act, nope you got that wrong too Mr. Burch as Woodward wrote in his book (and this guy is NOT republican,wrote about Nixon and Bush in unflattering light, so he is impartial), stated it was OBAMA that refused to cooperate, as a deal was reached, but then Obammy came back to dictate that he needed MORE tax revenue then what was agreed upon. Come on Jerry, be fair–even you can comprehend that, can't you???
Sep 13, 2012
As an intern, Obama made approximately $75,000 a year. Not peanuts by any means. Michelle made in excess of $150,000 a year. You can make up your own mind about whether these are "low paying" salaries.
Sep 13, 2012
Mr. Voss, I was thinking the same thing about you. You are so blinded by this communist and his minions that you can't accept facts when they are presented. Over 380,000 folks have STOPPED looking for "those supposed jobs " that were 'created". But that's what happens when your counting includes "counting the same jobs twice, counting temporary ones, and counting "jobs that never saw the light of day". Yes, Mr. Voss, perhaps YOU should make a date with that psychiatrist.
Sep 13, 2012
Barack made $23,000/year after college. Get your facts correct before posting
Sep 13, 2012
Sharon Tomalavage – Hahahahaha you're such a liar.
Sep 13, 2012
Voss, you are making 6 grand a year. I make that… In much less time. You said you won't take another job, or a better one, because it would cost you 32k to take care of your child and wife if you were working. Your "business" is freelance web building, and god knows there just aren't enough people doing that and calling themselves experts.
Your pay suggests that you probably collect more in eic than you actually make in a year. You are a burden to the taxpayers of this world and scream about people not paying a fair share. Pathetic. There was a time when people had pride and worked hard and wouldn't take handouts. Sadly, that time is coming to an end, and your attitude is proof. It's sad.
Sep 13, 2012
Voss, you are making 6 grand a year. I make that… In much less time. You said you won't take another job, or a better one, because it would cost you 32k to take care of your child and wife if you were working. Your "business" is freelance web building, and god knows there just aren't enough people doing that and calling themselves experts.
Your pay suggests that you probably collect more in eic than you actually make in a year. You are a burden to the taxpayers of this world and scream about people not paying a fair share. Pathetic. There was a time when people had pride and worked hard and wouldn't take handouts. Sadly, that time is coming to an end, and your attitude is proof. It's sad.
Sep 13, 2012
Voss, you are making 6 grand a year. I make that… In much less time. You said you won't take another job, or a better one, because it would cost you 32k to take care of your child and wife if you were working. Your "business" is freelance web building, and god knows there just aren't enough people doing that and calling themselves experts.
Your pay suggests that you probably collect more in eic than you actually make in a year. You are a burden to the taxpayers of this world and scream about people not paying a fair share. Pathetic. There was a time when people had pride and worked hard and wouldn't take handouts. Sadly, that time is coming to an end, and your attitude is proof. It's sad.
Sep 13, 2012
Remember your comments when we attack Iran and north Korea…. Bush once mention an Axis of Evil. Wonder if those countries were on that list? Yeah they were!
Sep 13, 2012
o.K. all you liberals and conservatives think of this. Do you really want to improve the economy and higher paying jobs? How much do you want it? Enough to write one letter to your Government? I propose that we all sit down and require our Government to Cancel the Nafta Agreement. It was so poorly negotiated and authorized by Clinton that we are the Country at the most disadvantage. We lost all our good paying jobs, the other countries do not buy our goods and they get discounts that we do not get. Cancel Nafta and watch our companies start manufacturing immediately; thereby stablilizing our employment and GPD. Also it will stop China shipping all their haszardous materials to us and show a complete downturn in our loans from them. It's up to you.
Sep 14, 2012
Obama said himself…"if I don't turn things around in 3 years, then it's a one term deal"…and now he's conveniently forgot that? That's just one of many lies…and it's a minor one at that. I'm still trying to grasp why anyone would DELIBERATELY scare small businesses into hiding, pulling back on hiring people, while we're fighting a global economy and cheap foreign labor…let alone the Second Great Depression..* which may be THEE Greatest Depression yet*…and by scaring businesses from hiring people…he DELIBERATELY RUINED THE RECOVERY! PROOF right there… ZERO ECONOMIC SENSE. He may walk on water for many of you…but he's NO PRESIDENT… We need JOBS, and we need PRO-Business Administration to get us those jobs. PERIOD. After we put food on the table and get back to work…we'll argue the finer points of life and civilization…but until then….
Sep 14, 2012
Obama spent over twice as much in 3 years as Bush did in 8 years fighting 2 wars and still hasn't pulled us out of the ditch. what Bush did with a democrat congress was BAD. What Obama did in the first 2 years with a full Democrat run Congress was WORSE. Thank God we had one of the biggest turnovers in the House in our history in 2010 when the GOP took control. We wouldn't just be in the ditch. We'd be in the grave. Obama is a Socialist and it has never worked. Our Democratic REPUBLIC won't last, either. Our founding fathers said it could only survive with a strong moral and religious people. We are crumbling from within just like the Roman Empire. Blind leaders of the blind. They both fall into the ditch. Very sad to see our great country go to Hell in a hand basket. Our leaders are corrupt. Our people are immoral, consumming most of the world's drugs(illegal and perscription) and alcohol. Our kids are juvenile delinquents due to lack of parenting. Our nation is gone. could it be we have forgotten God and He has forsaken us? Repent or perish, America!
Sep 14, 2012
And Kerry, I can put "grand poobah of shai halud" by my name. It doesn't mean anything. Let's just say I make "10" times more than you do before bonuses and benefits. Yeah… I make more, but why make you feel like less of a man, since you can't afford to take care of your family?
Sep 14, 2012
Sally Struthers called. She said she has a degree for you from "collage."
Sep 14, 2012
Billy Jones I believe you are confused about the minimum wage. In 2004 the federal minimum wage was raised to 7.25/hour AND if a state has a lower minimum wage then the federal min wage wins. Therefore, all your time spent on your math is incorrect. I am not saying it would be easy for someone to live off minimum wage but if you make minimum wage then learn to live within your bounds. My wife and I make more than minimum wage but we are 26 and 29 and are not having kids until our student loans are almost paid off. That is a decision we are making so we do not get in financial trouble. No one forced your imaginary family to have two kids. If you cannot afford children do not have them. That is pretty simple.
Sep 14, 2012
Annalisa Sumaray my gosh, that is trickle down economy…. and I thought dems didn't believe in that. Honestly, give the high school student a break. Just because she hasn't had a family and tried to raise it on minimum wage doesn't mean she can't understand basic facts. She is also learning from your comments that many liberals just like to blaim Republicans because they do not come up with solutions. Well that goes across the board and dems and repubs alike claim the other party does not come to the table with solutions but both come with ideas but they are counter to the other party's ideas so nothing moves. That is not always the case though. Clinton worked WITH the republican congress and made progress and both parties worked together on massive bills. Obama can claim all he wants but the proof and facts are that he does not know how to work with opposition. I am not saying Romney will do better but stop defending someone who cannot lead. He may be a great politician but he is not a leader.
Sep 14, 2012
Kerry Voss No-contract bids were occurring way before Bush so don't lay all the blaim on him. The DOD have been using those for decades. Also, you can blame some of the crisis on the wars but we didn't go in there without a small event setting us off… Oh yeah, 9/11, that brought about some of the worst days of the stock market and forced the government to help out the airline industry to keep them afloat. Then the tech bubble. Clinton, which I have little bad to say about him as President, was able to ride the Tech bubble which burst early in Bush's time. Bush had little to do with all the tech companies folding because many were riding on virtual dollars. Next the housing collapse, this problem started in the 90s when Dems and Repubs alike thought it should be easier to own a house and took away a lot of the safeguards to prevent people who should not own the ability to get a massive loan they could not afford. So blame Bush because you are going to anyways but there are many factors that Bush did not control that led us to where we are. Finally, if you truly think companies are not going to move to China or Indonesia due to labor unions and how unions jack up the cost of business, then keep blaming the "fat cat" Republicans.
Sep 14, 2012
Peg, come on, Republicans were not Clintons best friend but Clinton was a leader and worked across the aisle. Obama is not a leader and cannot work with opposition. Finally, once good ole Harry and the Dem Senate push up a budget bill or a counter bill to the House then I feel you can use your Republicans are in the way line but until then Harry's Senate is just as much to blame.
Sep 14, 2012
Karen Talley Tweed Yes, GM did pay back the loan but the US Govt also bought up Millions of GM stock shares to help out the company and to my knowledge we still own those shares. Therefore, GM is still working with millions of tax payers dollars. So sure you are correct they paid back the initial loan but used some of the stock money (which we bought) to do so. And they have still outsourced many jobs so I am not sure what jobs you are talking about because financially they are still hurting and I doubt that all the US govt shares could be sold without their stock price plummetting because not enough private investors would purchase them.
Sep 14, 2012
And when a bill leaves the House, where does it go next? And who has a majority in that Senate? Enough said.
Sep 14, 2012
Frances: WHERE do you get your 'facts'? Sounds like from fixed news
Sep 14, 2012
Russell Cooper Russell: I don't know why you have a photo of an eagle, you are certainly not a true American with language like that. Barack came from an affluent family………..WOW that is one I hadn't heard before, but then I don't listen to the lies and spins from fixed news. Barack has helped a lot of REAL Americans and continues to try to do so, but it's people like YOU that block him at every turn…..and you call yourself a real American………
Sep 15, 2012
Sharon Tomalavage: re:"All of the jobs supposedly created by Obama are low paying"… seriously? Every single one of them? Well I guess you can believe whatever you want. But, Seriously?
Sep 15, 2012
The opposition refuses to work with him. They blocked or filabustered 53 bills that Obama set to the Hill. How is that working across the aisle?
Sep 15, 2012
REALLY! In 2006 Bush tried to rein in Fannie&Freddie but guess who blocked it. Second, when I bought a home I needed 20% down. The Community Investment Act changed all that. Instead of responsible banking practices they were coerced into making loans to people who couldn't afford them. Would you loan money to someone with no proof of income? Bush tried to reform that Obama and the rest of his ilk blocked the reforms. Why do you think Dodd and Frank aren't running again? Hell to make my point on the financial expertise of Obama: you lend 528 million to a company that produces a product that costs 6 dollars to make but sells for 3 dollars on the open market e.g. Solyndra. Financial wizard isn't he?
Sep 15, 2012
REALLY! In 2006 Bush tried to rein in Fannie&Freddie but guess who blocked it. Second, when I bought a home I needed 20% down. The Community Investment Act changed all that. Instead of responsible banking practices they were coerced into making loans to people who couldn't afford them. Would you loan money to someone with no proof of income? Bush tried to reform that Obama and the rest of his ilk blocked the reforms. Why do you think Dodd and Frank aren't running again? Hell to make my point on the financial expertise of Obama: you lend 528 million to a company that produces a product that costs 6 dollars to make but sells for 3 dollars on the open market e.g. Solyndra. Financial wizard isn't he?
Sep 15, 2012
So this is what they mean when they say "never debate religion, politics, or abortion." I disputed one man's claim that you can raise a family on minimum wage. You'd be amazed at the level of lies, assumptions, deceptions, and name-calling that occured afterward. He's raising a family of 3 with no outside help. He holds 3 degrees from 3 "collages" *sic. He posts "facts" based in fantasy. I'm bowing out as gracefully as possible. I don't want to ride on either sides bandwagon. Enjoy the ride though. It will be fun, but the brakes are gone, and the drop is coming up fast ahead of you.
Sep 15, 2012
@Anita for the record, you are my hero. You actually use facts that you looked up rather than just parroting off whatever you were told. Thank you for being you. That is all.
Sep 15, 2012
Anita thanks a bunch for posting the cold hard facts. But one thing I'm not worried about is Nov. 6th because most people vote with their wallets and a whole lot of them are now empty.
Sep 15, 2012
Kerry Voss Obama didn't end the Iraq war. Our withdrawal was in place before he took office ala Bush. But he still found a way to take credit and screw it up at the same time. No residual force; how's that working out?
Sep 15, 2012
@Luskrx4u I was confused. the georgia state minimum wage is 5 dollars and change, but only under some conditions: minimum income of the company, minimum amount of employees, age of employees. Basically, if it's a small business, they can still pay georgia minimum wage, while a larger company cannot.
which imaginary friend are you talking about? I was talking about Kerry Voss's claim that he makes minimum wage, actually 6000 a year, and supports his family on it, with a young child, and his unwillingness to take any job given to him, because he says that it would cost him 32,000 dollars to hire someone to take care of his wife and kid. He's a leach on the system and a liar. There are too many people like him in this world, and that's not imagination. it's a fact.
Sep 17, 2012
Billy Jones your just retarded but that is standard with the republicans that seem to post on this thread. I do freelance work and outsource some of that work to individuals in the US I currently compete with India and other foreign countries that have sucked all profit from my company. Thank Bush for that! I closed my office a long time ago and maintain a small clientele. After all is said and done I don't make much money and I don't care! Why it is any of your business what I do Is beyond me. I pay the bills and I take care of my family adequately with what little I have. And honestly who cares about minimum wage the fact is that there are many jobs that pay way above that. I pose to you the same challenge you posed to me. If you spent less time writing and more time looking you may find one. I have no intention of looking because I am happy with my life and the way things are for me personally. I don't need a fancy car and a big house with a mortgage. I run my life and that is the way I like it. I don't need bills controlling my life. And no do the math 6,000 dollars is way below minimum wage.
Sep 17, 2012
Billy Jones your just retarded but that is standard with the republicans that seem to post on this thread. I do freelance work and outsource some of that work to individuals in the US I currently compete with India and other foreign countries that have sucked all profit from my company. Thank Bush for that! I closed my office a long time ago and maintain a small clientele. After all is said and done I don't make much money and I don't care! Why it is any of your business what I do Is beyond me. I pay the bills and I take care of my family adequately with what little I have. And honestly who cares about minimum wage the fact is that there are many jobs that pay way above that. I pose to you the same challenge you posed to me. If you spent less time writing and more time looking you may find one. I have no intention of looking because I am happy with my life and the way things are for me personally. I don't need a fancy car and a big house with a mortgage. I run my life and that is the way I like it. I don't need bills controlling my life. And no do the math 6,000 dollars is way below minimum wage.
Sep 17, 2012
Merl Applegate: It is easy when you look out a small window to believe the world is a small place. But looking that the big picture as most Americans do we see the world as it is. Republicans in the first place are not the "MORAL" guardians. In the second place if Obama is a Socialist better tell the democratic party so they can get a good laugh too!. A nation of the people by the people can never be socialist or communist unless the majority elect said party. and no you facts are mistaken the way it should read is bush elected to take us into a war against a country that never attacked us and spent 6 years fighting 1 war with no end in site ad drove the economy into worst recession since the great depression posting negative job growth during second term and first term job growth was +0.84 His presidency was a dismal failure that brought on the housing crises and wall street crumbling. Obama has in presidency brought us Health Care finished Bush's War Started the war against the suspected country that allegedly pulled off the 911 attacks and finished that one closing date 2014 23,000 troops pulled. He stopped the recession saved the Auto Workers and Put America in recovery mode. We are now seeing Positive Job Growth The Recession is over and you can raise your family in a democratic society where your free to practice what ever religion you choose. And when the GOP took control of the house it was the worst thing that could have happened because they chose to keep the bush era tax cuts that are causing all the problems in the first place. We will be paying for what Bush did till 2019 We will paying for what the house is doing until people wise up and get rid of the GOP once and for all.
Sep 17, 2012
ABJ Still posting comments. You seem to have a very shallow understanding of the whole process. First if the House is republican, the bills that need to get passed like: a bill to end the Bush era tax cuts never get to the senate. When a bill leaves the Republican Controlled House the bill is heavy laden with other bills combined that make it impossible for a sensible Senate to even consider. They are ear marked with money for friend of the republicans and special funding for republican states. It then it becomes a stagnate government process. This is the reason the economy is growing so slow is because things like taxes that are killing America are in place and being kept there and bills that need to be passed like the presidents job growth bill are amended to such a state that president would veto his own bill should it pass the senate. It is the republicans that are continually playing politics instead of worrying about what is good for you and me. This is the best example of why the president is going to win the next election because the republicans think we don't see what is going on. The republicans during the next election are going to loose the house and America is going to get back on track. We will see a defeat of the Bush era tax cuts and we will see a jobs bill pass. The second term of Obama will be the second largest expanse of the US economy wiping out Bushes Recession. We will re-enter PEACE and if a war is waged it will be for a damn good reason. Not like the republicans like McCain that wants the US to Enter war with IRAN Because they are developing Nuclear Capabilities. No Talking Just War – That is the republican way. Then they don't know how to fight and have no plans to exit the war. That is why McCain isn't president and that is why Romney will not win.
Sep 17, 2012
Ok crap what a bunch of RepTards. First for all your "FACTS" LOL well what ever to many to combat 50% true bottom line is there is two ways to go. Clinton UP Bush Down Obama UP now you can either keep going Up and stay the course or you can go back to the Bush era of DOWN and I am not buying your crap of It wasn't Bushes Fault. Well he was president for 4 years and all he had to show was +084 job growth a stagnant economy and a war he started that had nothing to do with 911 BTW Luscktard what ever that was over WMD's that they said they didn't have and that were never found so we tried and convicted him anyway. Beyond that Obama is the one who found and killed Osama Bin Laden you know who that was? Oh Yeah 911. Get your facts straits people there is just to much retarded stuff here that just isn't so. BTW if bush had kept us out of war or possibly actually attacked the right people I guarantee you that those that you say "Couldn't Afford Homes" , "Could Have". The point here is about perception and how you look at facts. No One can afford homes by your logic that is reason people take out loans is to pay for something that they can't afford. There only fault was that the economy nosed dived into a recession that in the last year of the Bush Admin was never stopped. and that is reason there was what you called bubbles. If the economy had been good then the Tech industry would have continued to expand and the housing market and even wall street and the banks. You only call them bubbles because they popped so then you can add to that everything.
Sep 17, 2012
Lusker whatever Perhaps you missed the inauguration of Obama? When all the republican MAFIA where on purpose not supporting the president during his speech and some even made comments they latter needed to apologize for. Because you don't like the commander and chief is no reason to act irresponsibly and actually cause harm to the people your supposed to represent merely for political agenda. Then yes they do need to be fired and according to the polls they are going to end up "FIRED" after the election. I know if I acted that way in former job experiences then I would have been terminated or court marshaled.
Sep 17, 2012
that is because your a republican. You don't want to say it but your actions give you away. I already stated the facts and all you have is a typo to attempt to discredit my education. Your a fool and I don't care if want to attempt to discredit me your the one that came on defending that Michell Obama was lying and making up a fantasy minimum wage. And saying that you can't raise a family on that I said BS and you cry like a little baby. I indeed raise a family on less than minimum wage far less than even you stated because I am my own boss. I am self employed something that you burger flippers will never understand because your too afraid to step out on your own. I dare you now even go to college and work your little job and see if you can do it. Your less of a man than me and that is the reason you try to make yourself look bigger by trying to discredit me. Well let me see you buddy get off your tosh and man up even close to me. You can't do it and I 49 years Old I have a 3yr old baby and a handicapped wife and you can't even get your lazy self up enough to do half as much as I do so you have no room to talk and even try to discredit me. because you can't your not man enough.
Sep 17, 2012
Well that probably would have been true provided the rep party didn't come up with Romney/Ryan as their answer for the economy. Romney made a mess of Mass all except RomneyCare that Obama loosely based the Health Care Reform on but Romney had to go lie and say I am going to repeal ObamaCare. "No he isn't", he grandfathered it. one of the many lies and compiled with a bad leadership record that is why he is loosing. The RNC Backed the Wrong Candidate if they would have chosen Ron Paul then there is a 90% chance that Obamas words would have bit him in the backside. But with Romney "NOT A CHANCE" And Ryan is more wishy-washy than John Kerry. And what else your saying he "Ruined the Recovery" So you want to put back in the same type of government that started it to solve the problem LOL LOL ROTHFLMAO HA HA HA LOL LOL LOL
Sep 17, 2012
What about simply repealing bush era tax cuts that got us here in the first place.
Sep 17, 2012
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Sep 17, 2012
Kerry… You told me where you got your degrees… They discredit you enough.
Have a great day.
For the record, I never said anything about Mrs Obamas comments. I said that you were wrong, and your crazy showed.
Sep 17, 2012
You are the one that commented back when you should obviously "Shut you trap". For the record you said I was wrong and I wasn't and your still trying to prove a mute point. And although I find it convenient that you are checked my post for grammar being over 100 words, that I didn't bother checking, you found only one error. "Not bad for me". Although that only reinforces my stance that you're a retard. You're Extremely Undereducated and a Complete Nuisance to those with valid options. Further more how could where I got my degrees discredit them in any fashion? The USAF is Grand Institution that been the cornerstone of many a young mans career's. BCTI SPSCC you haven't got a clue. and ITT could be anywhere and is old and long lasting institution that a degree from carries much respect. Not to mention I have over 25 years Mechanical Experience and 12 years Upper Management and Computer Programming Experience. Downplay that if you wish but I have respect from where I need it. Not from some punk kid that is "For Sure".
Sep 30, 2012
For some reason you are not mentioning the Nafta Agreement that Clinton signed into law.