Chick-Fil-A PR Bears False Witness, Lies About Muppet Toys and Creates Fake Supporters

I think Chick-Fil-A has the right through Free Speech to feel however they want. They don't discriminate in their business, so this is all a bunch of crap. And the actions of one or a few stores or PR people should not constitute blaming the entire corporation. This is just plain far-out fringe lunacy being injected into society! I think I need to go get a box of nuggets.

It is not enough to live and let live with the Left. You have to be their cheerleader or else you are the enemy.

I am glad that Chick-Fil-A has taken the stance they have and not bowed to the pressure of changing what they believe. They are a christian based company, they have never been quiet about that, and should be left alone.

Well, not only is it immoral to lie and cheat and deceive, but they've committed libel against the Henson company. This is one case where I actually would ask what would Jesus do, to Chick-Fil-A. But what can we really expect from a company that uses a cow to sell chicken with their 'eat more chikin' slogan. They are a highly litigous company defending their 'eat more…" slogan, they surely should expect any other company to strongly defend their own reputation when defamed by another.

god hates chick fil a.

I concur!!! Freedom of speech and freedom of religion!! Only God can judge them!! That's only if you believe in God!

So your ok with them LYING!!! Thats ok right…i mean lying is not a commandment your supposed to break right? God you people are such hypocrites. Your going to hell for supporting liars and giving them excuses just because you dont like or understand homosexuality. Repent now or your going straight to hell with all the homos and liars.

no they are not a christian based company, thats a lie for jesus would not condone this behavior!!!!!!
you can call yourself anything !

Lying, knowingly putting out false information, is against the Bible, that the management willingly engaged in and let their PR department continue it after the issue of whose recall happened first was pretty well settled in the Muppets favor, indicates they are feeling guilty.

I think that people only see the wrongs they want to see. This isn't about their right to be homophobic it's about lying. All they had to do was be honest as to why the muppets toys were gone but they lied instead because they new the truth would make them look bad. Pick and choose what parts of the bible you follow….that's how it works right?

Then bearing false witness is OK with you so long as it is a "Christian company" doing it? They had their freedom of speech and now they are miffed that the Muppets and ordinary citizens are holding them accountable. Freedom goes both ways but lying is a one way street here.

Shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up.

Apparently you missed the "God is Love" message along the way. "Christians" do not hate – since that would upset Jesus tremendously – but you think it's OK to bear false witness and to slander a company?

Deedee Herring All the "homos" are going to hell? Look up what "homo" means you ignorant apparently not dictionary owning twerp.

I've done a lot of things with my tongue, but slandered someone, no.

Kim, my dear, did you not get I was being sarcastic??? I was speaking as if I were this dumb ass defending chickfila….

Kim Bean But thanks for the nasty comment. It does show that even the pro gay can be nasty pieces of work. Look who my icon is and I am bisexual….jeez

I am getting VERY tired of being called a "hater" if I don't agree with the gay rights movement! Where are my rights? The Gay Rights people attack anyone who disagrees with them! They are encouraging concerted efforts against them as they put concerted efforts to intimidate any person or group that speaks against them…

Similarly, we can all speak against bigotry and decide where to spend our money. No one is entitled to my custom because of the First Amendment.

Kinda like the pro-lifers – if you don't agree with them they'll kill you.

Have you personally ever been confronted by a gay person? Because dollars to donuts there are still more people being bullied for being gay than being anti-gay.

I apologize for not getting you're sarcasm (it confused me) And yes. It was nasty. Sorry. I just get upset when people use words like "homo" or some other "root" of a word and apparently don't know the meaning. Again I apologize. Sometimes it's hard to find the allies.

Again….that was only one of thousands and thousands of restaurants. Individuals do not-so-bright things. I don't think Jesus would approve of the judging of an entire corporation over the actions of one little person in one store! People do make mistakes. Are there no erasers on your pencils, Ethan??? and what makes you the authority?

Elaine Murray– Again….that was only one of thousands and thousands of restaurants. Individuals do not-so-bright things. I don't think Jesus would approve of the judging of an entire corporation over the actions of one little person in one store! People do make mistakes. Are there no erasers on your pencils? Who makes you the authority on right and wrong??

Barbara, it would appear that Chick-Fil-A corporate is in on it if they are creating fake FB accounts, though, correct? It is definitely not one little store.

I am so sick of hearing about "oh how Chick fil A lied". They put a sign up that was APPRORIATE explaining about the Muppets toys because CHILDREN eat there too and can read. I wouldn't want my kid or anyone else's kid to read a sign about toys being pulled because of gay rights and blah blah blah, because Adults are too dumb to get along!! And yes I do support Chick Fil A

Deedee Herring –I don't remember reading anywhere in the Bible where you were made the judge of others!!

^ "you can lie to me, as long as I support the cause" <facepalm>

Exactly! So let's all be for gay marriage! I'm glad we agree.

I am not familiar with the details other than this article but I guarantee there would have been a libel suit if they had announced "our toy will be removed because a spineless moron at the Henson Co cannot deal with a christian company that sticks by its moral teaching, without imposing them on you

Again and again…it was one person in one store among thousands and thousands of stores. Your "they" didn't do anything you said. Now I see why people make fun of our Christian religion. You, Kathleen (not of) Grace, are a prime example of a judgmental person.

I love you daddy Graham, but do you really know about why they're after equal rights? How fair is it that they devote their life to one another but are not entitled to the same health insurance, tax breaks and other benefits that we as "traditional married couples" get? Not everybody is an extremist when it comes to these things! They just want to be treated like everybody else. God created us all equal. You can't help who you love! The whole movement isn't about "hate" it's about love and equality. I've never said anything about it before when I've seen your posts, but seriously…you really need to look further into it before you speak against them.

You're demented. God doesn't hate anyone.

Again, there was no "they." It was one person in one store among thousands.

And if you knew the Bible, you'd know that God sees even 10 good among thousands as a reason for not coming down on a group!

Who cares why they no longer have the Muppet Toys? So the Muppet People pulled the toys – so? I think the fact some are digging deep and trying to make some big scandal out of this is rather comical. Shame on them for trying to ruin a perfectly good business, owned by a family with traditional beliefs. So, because this family doesn't share the wide spread, liberal views of some – you want to ruin their business? Really? What a crappy political ploy by The Muppet people. Believing in traditional family values isn't discriminatory. What's disgusting is the unnecessary attacks on Chick Fil A. If you don't want to support them, don't eat there. But what decent person or orgaization would try to ruin a business?

And the Bible you think you know says that if there are even a few good among thousands, God does not come down on them! Just who do you think that you are???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO-msplukrw

Do you have a link that the Muppets want to ruin anyone's business? I will write about it if you do. Waiting patiently.

Do you have a link that the Muppets want to ruin anyone's business? I will write about it if you do. Waiting patiently.

The account thing was totally separate from the other incident. It is stupidity to connect them. I think if a rights agenda of some sort wanted to attack any company, they could come up with similar incidents and combine them to attack and cause people who don't research to jump on a boycott bandwagon. That's because we are a huge society of individuals. Some wise, some not so.

Just the article above (which I found the link to on FB, under Chick Fil A Appreciation Day posts). My disappointment is how the Muppet CEO and whatever liberal media – is attacking Chick Fil A, blowing the Muppet Toy situation WAY out of proportion – attempting to defame the Chick Fil A business and owners. I just think it's sad the level some will go to, the extreme they'll go to camoflauge the story to promote their own personal view. If they don't wish to hurt their business, then why all of this hoopla over toys? : )

The only defamation here was on the part of Chick-Fil-A, who lied and said the toys were unsafe. Merely saying "we won't do business with you because we don't want to put money towards anti-gay groups" is NOT defaming anyone. Just tell the truth, if the truth is so true.

Who else would have an interest in concealing this BUT Chick-Fil-A?

Why could the sign not just say "Muppet toys no longer available. Ask us for your free ice cream!" That would have been fine without a lie or any mention of gay people.

to be honest – there is no logical reason for the toys to have been removed – except the Muppet folks want to make some political statement. So sure, the restaurant should've just let them take the toys and replaced them with something else (no need to explain it to anyone) – not sure WHY this is some big story. It's stupid toys for cripe sakes. And maybe CFA was trying to avoid ….. THIS nonsense.

Well if you live in America, and are Christian .. God hates fags, liberals, minorities, those under the poverty line, those who don't give to the church, those who are pro-life, and a whole bunch of other ridiculous things. Maybe we need to focus less on what PEOPLE SAY about God, and more on what God SAYS about himself and others. You can't pick and choose which lines of the bible to follow. Only reading those that help your cause, and writing other verses off as "antiquated and not applicable" is total b/s.

I suppose they should have posted a sign that read, "The Henson corporation has asked that all the children who recieved Muppet toys in their kids meals please come and return them since the Henson corporation doesn't like that we the Chick Fil A corporation expressed our opinion regarding gay marriage." Look people this is America, I support both corporations to be able to express their views however they like. My issue comes in when the mud starts slinging. People seem to preach a lot about tolerance (I see this A LOT with Christians and Liberals) but then they get upset when you don't agree with them. Yeah, it's great that the Muppets have been all about diversity from the beginning. Today we have a culture rich in much diversity and I have three beautiful children of mixed race. But I also think it's awesome that Chick fil a takes their Christian values and incorporates them into their business practices. I say if it gets your panties in a wad then just don't eat chicken or don't go see a muppet movie, problem solved.

WOW …. commited libel??? really???? That's a bit extreme, don't you think?! it's two businesses who have different views. it's not discriminatory to have traditional family values – it's discriminatory for ppl to make it into some scandal, because they DONT. This whole story is pathetic. If you don't like their values, don't eat there – but it's sad that some ppl feel the need to come on blogs like this and defame a good business because they want to be political. This is about toys for cripe sakes. Sorry if CFA was trying to avoid all of THIS sort of nonsense, too bad they felt the need to say anything, they didn't owe an explanation about why the toys were gone ….. but implying they're criminal over toys is RIDICULOUS and you look like a fool implying "libel". Let it go.

Oh Milford. You poor soul. You must be a Caucasian, married, land-owning male, aren't you? Where are your rights? EVERYWHERE AROUND YOU. The right to have tax deductions. The right to marry the person you love. The right to adopt children. The right to not be discriminated against based on your sex, religion, race, creed, etc. The right to visit your sick/dying wife in the hospital. The right to community property and exemption from inheritance/estate tax upon transfer. The list goes on and on. As for gays … they don't get that. No marriage tax deduction (even though or gov't was founded not on religion, but on equality and inclusion…the gov't decided it gets to approve what qualifies as a marriage, despite it being a religious bond), no marriage rights, no adoption rights, can't donate blood, can be discriminated against without any recourse, no rights to visit a significant other or obtain information about them, no property/asset rights after death, etc. There is no problem with you not supporting the gay rights movement. You're allowed to feel however you want. But the very second you start projecting your narrow-minded, ill-founded, bullshit statements — you cross the line. Gays don't make comments about you holding hands or kissing your wife, now have some respect and do the same. You're obviously happily married and successful — why would you want to ensure that someone else cannot have either of those things? Shame on you.

Kimberly Lombardi-Smart

you know its only ok to think and believe what the mainstream media wants us to think..its not ok to believe in values that we want..if we dont embrace non-tradition values we are racists, bigot, etc…Im pretty sure that I can believe in what I want..I will support a company that doesnt try to pretend to think everything is normal or ok.Im not opposed to others lifestyle..but once again that doesnt mean I have to embrace it as my values. We always seem to let the squeaky wheel continue to get greased.

I don't get what all the hoopla is about. Can you guarantee the toys ARE safe? It was a sign in a window – and you believe that warrants all of THIS nonsense? Really? Ppl see what they want to see, accept the truths that serve their purpose ….. so, see it as you will. I think it's nothing more than a political ploy by the Muppet group. Seriously, they need to let it go. There has GOT to be something more important to concern themselves with than a sign in a window!

I don't get what all the hoopla is about. Can you guarantee the toys ARE safe? It was a sign in a window – and you believe that warrants all of THIS nonsense? Really? Ppl see what they want to see, accept the truths that serve their purpose ….. so, see it as you will. I think it's nothing more than a political ploy by the Muppet group. Seriously, they need to let it go. There has GOT to be something more important to concern themselves with than a sign in a window!

Milford, I have gay friends and I don't hate gays but this country WAS founded on Christian values and those values don't recognize the homosexual lifestyle. People hate Christians because they stand for something. 70% of the things Anthony spouted off are complete bullshit. When the lobby stops throwing things in peoples faces and presents an intelligent argument instead of saying "waaahhh everybody hates us!" They may get what they want and I'd be fine with that. IF its the will of the people.

Again, I see ONE instance of defamation- saying Henson's toys were unsafe. That's defamation. Own up to what you believe.

Again, I see ONE instance of defamation- saying Henson's toys were unsafe. That's defamation. Own up to what you believe.

Cindy DeMik Arndt Although, it is interesting you say accurately stating what Chick-Fil-A believes is defamation. Telling.

Cindy DeMik Arndt Although, it is interesting you say accurately stating what Chick-Fil-A believes is defamation. Telling.

It is also a lie.

It is a bit strange when Liberals, who normally hate the true message of the Bible, use it in reference when it fits a political agenda. You can't claim to understand it when you don't believe it in the first place. This entire situation of lying about some Muppet toys was preceded by someone who did not respect the right of the company to state their position on an issue and pulled the toys from the food chain, apparently. It was not right for that person to lie, of course. But it does not excuse the gay lifestyle. Jesus never said homosexuality is acceptable. He said to love one another, but he also told his believers to go into all the world and preach the gospel. Loving someone doesn't mean you have to agree with everything they do. He never condoned any sexual sin. All you have to do is read Romans Chapter 1 if you are going to reference the Bible in your articles. This chapter makes a very clear statement about gay sexual practices as well as other sins. There are many sexual sins in the Bible, homosexuality being one of them. But the good news Jesus came to declare is that we can all receive forgiveness for sin, and all we have to do is ask forgiveness and believe he gave his life for us. Instead of focusing on your perceived "bigotry", try looking at the good news of the gospel who can save our souls no matter what we have done as long as we confess our sin and ask for his mercy.

what a bunch of hokie nonsense…really? A Christian organization can't have it's values and run a business as it see fit? Why are they considered bigots because they don't accept a lifestyle that is considered an abomination in the eyes of God? I support you Chik-Fil-A!

and besides who is to say that the PR people from the makers of the Muppet toys aren't lying, to cover their behinds from any possible law suits? Or just to protect their image from making crappy toys?

Do they not support the entire Bible? Lying is a sin just the same as everything else. Shame on them.

Do they not support the entire Bible? Lying is a sin just the same as everything else. Shame on them.

You people will twist anything any which way to make it fit with your world-view. At least we have a set of morals we'll stick to even when it doesn't benefit us. You lot? "Oh it's not immoral if it suits me, Bible bedamned!" Every time, every single time with you types. Enjoy your nuggets.

Barbara Bricker Culotti Awwww…poor little Chick-Fil-A!!!! I doubt Jesus would have anything to say about us judging a corporation, it is NOT a person whose feelings can be hurt!

Amen, Charles! If someone lied, that was wrong, but I feel that Chik-Fil-A's biggest mistake was doing business with the Muppets in the first place. They would have been better suited to have Veggie Tales characters in their children's meals. 2 Corinthians 6:14 (New Living Translation)
14 Don't team up with those who are unbelievers. How can goodness be a partner with wickedness? How can light live with darkness?

Do you really think Jesus would care more about who loves who rather than that there are people without food, homes, or are being abused? If so, you severely missed his message.

Do you really think Jesus would care more about who loves who rather than that there are people without food, homes, or are being abused? If so, you severely missed his message.

The same goes for you, Charles. I've yet to hear someone walk around the street quoting verses and lines from the Bible, unless he or she has to defend an action or opinion. That's the cheap, and easy way out –point the finger and blame it on someone else. "Oh, I can't possibly make my own decision, or defend my position.. so I'll hide behind the religion excuse, and now you can't say anything about it!" Get out of here.

The premise of this article is how Chik-Fil-A is blatantly lying to its customers about the reasoning behind it. Nobody is suggesting that they come out boldly and state an anti-gay position, but the direct misrepresentation of the situation and bold faced lie is unacceptable. Could a profitable, well-funded, national organization not come up with something a little more professional?

"As of late, Chik-Fil-A and the Jim Henson Company have ceased business ties, and decided to go their own separate ways. While we wish JHC the best, here at Chik-Fil-A, the Muppets line child toys have been discontinued. A(n) XYZ item/toy will be replacing the current promotional item. We thank you for your continued patronage at Chik-Fil-A. God Bless"

Interesting! End result? No Muppets toys. Current result? Maybe reap a little bit of that negative PR back, as you demonstrate your tact, professionalism, and (yes, even here) your Christian values.

When a Senior Leader of a company assets a position, while acting in his position of power, at work, on camera, in the Chik-Fil-A, its a company problem. He sets the tone, what will be tolerated and what is prohibited, and what image the company holds. He wasn't speaking on her personal behalf (as the POTUS clearly did when he was interviewed), and made it clear that the company holds HIS values. This wasn't a 'mistake'. He didn't 'coincidentally' tell the media he is anti-gay. It is a positive statement, that he has reinforced to be true — let there be no mistake about that.

Well, here's how I see it. That statement on that sign is a corporate statement, and it is a lie. They lied about another company's product. That's libel. Freedom of speech does not apply when you fabricate lies. And, as any child will know, you only lie when you don't want to admit the truth. The store did not have to go that route, they could simply have put up a note about the toy no longer being available and not say another word – that would have been the honest thing to do, not make up a falsehood, that's illegal. I love Chick-fil-A, but this was wrong. And it may have been one store, but that logo on there represents the whole company and now that this has gone viral, thousand of people have seen it. If they wanted to make their own statement they shouldn't have used corporate letterhead. Chick-fil-A yesterday made a statement about serving all people without regard for race, creed or gender, and that they would leave issues up to the politicians. That sounded like the decent thing to do to avoid chaos.

Actually they don't have the right through Free Speech to fabricate lies about a company and post those lies for people to see. Free Speech does not allow for that. It allows for you to stand in front of that store and say you don't like them, it allows for you to write that you are not happy, it allows you to say whatever you want but when you make up lies and spread those lies through publication, you are defaming a company and that is not legal. I completely understand what's at issue here, but you don't make up lies. I don't condone deceit in any way shape or form, it's unethical.
Here defined is free speech: Freedom of speech is the political right to communicate one's opinions and ideas via speech. The term freedom of expression is sometimes used synonymously, but includes any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used. In practice, the right to freedom of speech is not absolute in any country and the right is commonly subject to limitations, as with libel, slander, obscenity and incitement to commit a crime.

cindy do you even know what defamation is??? "false or unjustified injury of the good reputation of another, as by slander or libel" and in case you dont know what slander is "a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report" How DARE you say the Muppets defame chick-fil-a….lets get the FACTS straight here. The Muppets made a business decision based on the fact that they dont agree with CFA's anti-gay rights stance. LAST TIME I CHECKED, that was a companies right…just as much as it was CFA's right to make their statement against gay-rights. CFA is the one who is LYING about why the toys were pulled AND CFA is the one who is making fake Facebook profiles to go on their own page and defend their actions by lying and saying the toys were pulled sooner. YOU, CINDY seriously need to educate yourself, and also follow your precious bible a little more closely. Thou shalt not bear false witness….right. You DEFEND CFA for that but place all kinds of hate on gay people in the name of the bible.

Kim Bean thats ok. I got upset too…lol

Their intent was clear, to make the Henson company appear to be at fault for creating a harmful product, not the truth which could simply have stated a "disagreement in corporate policy" or other mild-mannered corporate lingo. The statement was inflammatory, meant to strike fear into the customers and perhaps have them throw out the toys they did receive. They struck out with accusations that had no basis. And it may have been one person, but it became "they" when they used the corporate letterhead. They became a voice for the company.

Barbara Bricker Culotti I am not judging anyone….I am giving my opinion. The OP of this particular thread is a hypocrite…period….anyone who defends CFA's actions the past few days but agrees with their anit-gay rights status is a hypocrite. You cannot take one part of the bible and not all parts of the bible. With that, lets just make sure your fighting for your husbands to be able to have multiple wives AND make sure you dont get divorced because you can be killed for that. Yes its in the bible, right along with the anti gay stuff so practice everything if your gonna follow it that closely.

As every segment of society who has tried to receive acknowledge and acceptance, it comes to a state of war, with the end of slavery, for women's right to vote, for racial integration, for women's equal rights, and now for gay rights. If a society was just willing to accept their fellow human it wouldn't have to go to the stage of battle. It's not right but it is our way and it goes back centuries, Christianity has it source in battles. I wish there were another way.

And yet Barbara, you have been judging quite harshly in this forum.

Yes Deedee, it means " to attack the good name or reputation of, as by uttering or publishing maliciously or falsely" – hey, if you feel the need to make a federal case out of a SIGN IN A WINDOW about happy meal toys, then you need a hobby. There's other more impt things to discuss, ie. the economy, foreclosure, securing our borders, quit spending money we don't have … thinkgs like that.

Yes Deedee, it means " to attack the good name or reputation of, as by uttering or publishing maliciously or falsely…" – hey, if you feel the need to make a federal case out of a SIGN IN A WINDOW about happy meal toys, then you need a hobby. There's other more impt things to discuss, ie. the economic failures of this administration, unemployment, securing our borders, quit spending money we don't have, voter fraud, entitlment fraud … things like that.

Your right, there are lots of important things to discuss. However this article is about chick-fil-a lying in about the Muppet, YOU are accusing the muppets of defamation. When your lying and accusing someone of something that is not true, in a public forum you must take the heat from other people calling BS on you.

lasty, I'm going out on a limb and assume you're a liberal – because it's typical for one with liberal views to wrongfully imply "hatred" of others in their discussions – so shame on YOU. I feel no hatred towards gay ppl. Lie is a very strong word you are using it to deflect from real issues.

actually I'm accusing ppl like you who are preaching hatred for a business who doesn't share your beliefs – by coming out here and making some huge issue over a sign on a window about toys, and creating unnecessary conflict. they are the ones defaming CFA. It's not a big deal WHY they don't have the toys – who cares if the Muppets dont want them to distribute them. It's not like CFA tried to make the Muppets look bad, or made up some crazy discriminatory story about them ….. I think this whole thing is completely ridiculous. And the fact ppl are here, all up in arms over a sign …… wow.

Doesn't matter if they are a 'christian based company' or not. They are lying and denigrating a suppliers reputation of quality. That's not christian, that's a lawsuit. If you're christian you know others like you who talk the talk but don't walk the walk. Christian run company is meaningless. Companies that don't tie into religion can be and are light years ahead of a greasy chicken shack. Policies are based on customer service, not who you pray to. This isn't a Jesus issue, it about strict policies that their stores must adhere to. This behavior comes from management not Christ.

Cindy DeMik Arndt You just said above" It's not like CFA tried to make the Muppets look bad, or made up some crazy discriminatory story about them ….." Are you FREAKING KIDDING ME??? THATS EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID!!! That is what this whole article is about. BTW I am not a liberal. I think, in some ways CFA is being wronged, esp by the Boston and Chicago mayors. I am a republican, but my political views do not skew my opinion when the FACTS are laid out in front of me. CFA lied, and got caught, TWICE in the past 2 days. The only defamation is coming from THEM. Put aside the whole statement they made against gay-rights, I dont care about that. What I care about is the fact that THEY chose to defame another company solely because that company decided to stop doing business with them. Had CFA taken the high, moral road and just said, " Were not going to have these toys anymore due to personal difference with this company" I would respect them, instead CFA LIED! Then they made up fake FB profiles and posted more lies on their own pages, trying to have fake people defending their lies. Forget the whole gay/anti-gay…who is for and against. This is about a company who made a statement based on their supposed family beliefs and support of the bible and then turned around and LIED about other things. If you want to defend a company that has been proven to be willing to lie and cause damage to another business, you go ahead.

How is posting a sign saying there's a recall – discriminatory? It didn't claim anyone choked on one something more serious. I personally think this entire situation has been blown welllllll out of proportion. I still don't get WHY they had to explain anything about why they do or don't have specific kids meal toys? I mean, it's a toy. Actually it's very open minded of CFA to have had their toys, knowing their beliefs differ. I honestly don't see what damage was caused to the muppets because Chick Fil A posts they voluntarily recalled the toy? I think the Muppets are doing more damage to themselves making a big deal out of something so unimportant. Not to mention, CFA has always been very open on their christian beliefs, so I'm confused, if it was a problem for Muppets, why they had their toys there in the first place?

Actually the Jim Henson company has not said one word about these signs. It is the press making a big deal. I never said the signs were discriminatory, I said they were defamatory. Those words mean different things. Regardless, posting a sign saying that they are pulling the toys due to a defect is defamatory because they are LYING!!! No one believed the signs but that is not the point. Again, it is about a supposed "christian" organization LYING, when LYING is against the bible. The sign is a LIE…you can spin it anyway you want but the company LIED…period!!!

oops, typo, I meant defamatory, not discriminatory (kids, phone, making dinner – too much going on). Clearly we won't agree on this. You (and the media apparently) feel this is somehow a big deal, but I don't see that it is. In my opinion, this whole thing is ridiculous and being stretched too far. Again, if the Muppets haven't said anything, I really believe the media is doing more harm than good, for everybody involved. In which case, the media IS making it political. What a shame.

I typically don't speak against "them"…. BUT I am getting upset with the attitude that is coming from the activist groups supporting them…. I agree with every thing you say.. BUT others ARE entitled to their opinions with out being singled out and attacked.. I personally agree with gay unions that are recognized by the same laws as a marriage… Let those who feel that "marriage" is as it is now can be appeased and gay couples will have their rights safegaurded…

I typically don't speak against "them"…. BUT I am getting upset with the attitude that is coming from the activist groups supporting them…. I agree with every thing you say.. BUT others ARE entitled to their opinions with out being singled out and attacked.. I personally agree with gay unions that are recognized by the same laws as a marriage… Let those who feel that "marriage" is as it is now can be appeased and gay couples will have their rights safegaurded…

Kim LaCapria Lady !!! YES I HAVE BEEN…. Many years ago when a gay rights clan ganged up on me in court and beat on me like you won't believe… Came on to me out of the blue to support one of theirs… and it wasn't a gay issue, it was a bash me issue in support of another person.. Don't want to go into it again now, but yes I have.. AND even after that, I have no issues with gay rights… BUT I don't want their rights to supercede others.. All because it is the popular thing to do…

Didn't Christ smack down some moneymakers? Just sayin'.

Milford Graham: Our rights already supercede theirs. We can marry who we love, but they can't.

Jim Trebowski…………………..What part of I agree with this don't you understand???? What my gripe is the personal attacks that the gay rights organizations do IF someone disagrees with them….. AND what about the rights of a church member OR a church who don't agree???? This Chica thing is a good example of what we are talking about…. ALSO some actor recently who was asked about this and stated his personal opinion and everyone wanted to hang him because his religious beliefs didn't go along with this..
AND………… you for instance replying to me saying "Our rights already supercede theirs. We can marry who we love, but they can't." What did I say in previous posts??? If any one says ANYTHING negative about this issue, your a "hater" and you gotta straighten me out…. I have no problem with unions or whatever happening…BUT if people cannot accept this in their church, what about their rights… For that matter, let them all get married like me and see the rights they lose!!!!!!!!!!!!

Milford, what rights have you lost by being married? You may not have a problem with SSM, but many who are against it aren't just voicing their opinion. They're actively taking efforts to continue treating an entire segment of our population as second class citizens. One has to expect there might be a strong reaction to that.

Milford, what rights have you lost by being married? You may not have a problem with SSM, but many who are against it aren't just voicing their opinion. They're actively taking efforts to continue treating an entire segment of our population as second class citizens. One has to expect there might be a strong reaction to that.

I give up !!!!! You guys just want to debate… I'm outta here…..

Cindy, you seem to not realize that putting up a sign in a store window, making a statement about another company that is a fabricated lie, is a company statement even if it is just one business but using the corporate letterhead – that makes it a company statement, and that statement constitutes libel. And while it may not seem a big deal to you, it's become a national argument. Whatever the case, these two companies do not agree on policy. The Muppets withdrew from their arrangement after CFA made a public statement about their policies. It's gone wildly public, a huge percentage of people know about this now. We didn't create the conflict, we are speaking our opinion on it. The Muppets toys are safe, always have been. Making up such an inflammatory lie is simply vindictive to hurt the company. And it is illegal to spread this kind of lie – I understand it may not seem much to you, but it is still illegal. Do you spread malicious lies about anyone you argue with or do you just get mad and not talk to them?

I do give you credit for being civil during this discussion.

1 person??? so you are taking what is being said by Chik fil a as the truth? Because they are god fearing people they cant be lying? Everyone is missing the point. No one is arguing about their right to be homophobic and express it. If you are going to hide behind the bible then dont be a hypocrite. It's just disgusting that people are defending their right to bend the truth to fit their needs. All of you should be ashamed.

I applaude this company. I have never eaten there but I will start. he is standing up for the christian values of america not the judeo values that push to destroy the family, promote homosexuality and the general corruption of the youth and culture.

Right…like lying and slandering another company….god just loves those values!!!

You may not have read what I said correctly – there are multiple statements of it being one person who posted that note, and my response has been that they posted it on company letterhead so that made it a company statement. You are shooting from the hip here. And I do not use the bible to hide behind, I never reference it at all. I do not condone lying I do not bend the truth to suite my needs, not ever. Chick-fil-A lied. I said that. Don't let your anger get in the way here, you need to be sure you know what you read.

This is a volatile subject and I believe Milford just doesn't want to get beat up because his beliefs are different. Often when people are trying to make a point, they do it with a hammer. We are all entitled to our feelings, we have them, that's what makes us us. What shouldn't happen is bashing someone else for having that opinion. Arguing is one thing, personal attacks are another. I've been personally attacked in this forum and there's no reason for that. I won't attack anyone else personally, we all have a right to our opinion, and it should never degrade to a personal attack, we can speak our point of view and argue to defend that point of view but should never 'beat up' another person to make a point. I once had a mother-in-law who was very active in church, a devoted religious follower. And at home she drank very heavily, she cursed, she abused her family and was cruel to anyone who crossed her path – but she believed she was a good Christian because she went to church. Actions do speak louder than words. And yes, sometimes people just want to debate – it's time to step back out of the way when you realize that. And I think Milford just wanted to be heard. I'm hoping it can be understood that in defense of anything people tend to get overzealous, to fight for their side and sadly sometimes people do get hurt by that. Milford, I'm sorry you've had that kind of reaction.

God also hates people who call others demented BARBARA!!! this is beside the fact that my clever play on words is lost on you.

Milford Graham I don't understand, they physically beat on you in a courtroom? I literally have no idea what you are claiming occurred.

Connie Ratcliffe Could they have explained the situation without saying the Muppets toys were unsafe?

I'm totally with you on this one Anthony. All they had to say was "We are no longer providing the Muppet toys. We have substituted XYZ. We apologize for the inconvenience." That would be truthful, honest, appropriate for children to read, etc. I take issue with them fabricating a safety concern.

Not only do I agree, I don't believe anyone in this thread truly does not see why the sign is a problem.

Wow, Barbara, lowering yourself to personal insults it what this whole issue is all about. And it's all well and good to believe that God loves everyone, but if we are made in his image, we have anger and hate. The stories tell of his wrath, wasn't it not too long ago that preachers roamed through through country spouting fire and brimstone and fear of God?

Kathleen, the sign refers to a kids toy, not to the company. I'm glad you acknowledged it was probably one sign @ one location – its not as if the entire chain released some statement, nationwide. But yes, you're speaking your opinion on it, as I'm speaking mine. In a world where we have an administration willing to just forgive milllions of immigrants who have entered our country illegally and against the law, but THIS is what ppl choose to express outrage over? A dispute between two companies over a childrens toy? Where nobody has been hurt? All because some activist group saw an opportunity to make a big deal out of nothing? Sorry, I just don't get it. I don't think it's ok to turn a blind eye to major issues, REAL issues – but then turn something like this, into something it's not. I think it's a waste of time for everybody.

Well, it's your opinion that it's just a kids toy, it mentions the company name, it says the product is not safe, and now it's become now a nationwide discussion. One person's actions can impact thousands. The activist group acted in response to a corporate statement released by Chick-fil-A. This one thing we have been talking about here is the sign. People express outrage over the price of a cup of coffee at coffeehouses, we can't ever underestimate what people will get outraged over so this does not surprise me. And my reaction was simply because who on earth would shake an an accusatory finger at the Muppets, something beloved by millions? This is not the only thing people have expressed outrage over, just the one you got involved in. And I've come to find out that more than one store posted that note about the recall. It was not just one store, this story is about that one store, but there were other locations that posted that recall notice. The Jim Henson Company did issue their own statement following Chick-Fil-A's. The said simply “The Jim Henson Company has celebrated and embraced diversity and inclusiveness for over fifty years and we have notified Chick-Fil-A that we do not wish to partner with them on any future endeavors,” Chick-Fil-A's response was to say "Chick-fil-A has voluntarily recalled all of the Jim Henson's Creature Shop Puppet Kids Meal toys due to a possible safety issue." A lie, retaliation, they didn't have to go there. It will be interesting in the coming weeks to see how this plays out – The mayors of Boston and Chicago sent letters to the company and the ACLU is coming into the picture. This will likely be headlines for weeks to come.

what exactly did they "accuse" the Muppets of? now, if they had claimed a child choked on the toy or something, that would be different. honestly I think this is all so frivilous and needs to be put to rest. what will anybody gain from any of this? its ridiculous. it's useless lawsuits and things like this that that make a mockery of our system.

Cindy, you can swing it anyway you want but CFA LIED!!!! They said the toys were defective…THAT WAS A LIE!!! I dont know why you cant at least admit that. Yes it was one store but that is not the point. The store represents the company.

I'll admit one person at that location"lied" if you admit it's being blown out of proportion.

What a big fat mess this has become! People, just live & let live! Trite, yes, but so simple!

Actually, after doing some searching, it's not one person anymore, that note was posted in multiple stores, it was issued by corporate, some stores did not post it, and franchisees weren't required to. More information is coming out about it. If you search online you will quickly find locations in Maryland, Texas, Virginia. The Consumer Product Safety Commission reported that there were no safety issues on the toys. CNBC reached out to Chick-Fil-A and they responded… "Please understand that this is simply a precautionary and voluntary recall by the Chick-fil-A chain." The statement confirmed it is a recall by the chain of stores.

Wow thats just shady. LIARS!!! Upholding biblical values my behind.

I can accept it was simply a voluntary recall – no biggie. again it didn't claim anyone was hurt because of the toy. They didn't even ask ppl to return the toy. It's being blown waaay out of proportion. I would like SOMEONE to explain what actual harm has been done.

Cindy, the day before this notice went up, Henson made a statement telling everyone that they decided to end their relationship with CFA because of CFA's stance on gay rights. There was nothing wrong with the toys, the toys were not pulled because of safety issues, they weren't even pulled by CFA, they were pulled because Henson decided not to continue their relationship. Therefore, CFA putting up signs saying THEY made a decision to pull the toys due to a safety issue is defamatory to Henson and its also outright lying. The big deal is that CFA CLAIMS they are anti-gay due to biblical family values but then they go and make a bold face lie to make themselves look like a victim of a bad product, when it was a decision of Henson's to just stop the business relationship.

My question to Henson would be, why the need to make such a controversial public statement? why not just pull the toys? their sole purpose had to be political and an attempt to hurt CFA. Second, CFA isn't Anti-Gay, they simply believe in traditional marriage between a man and a woman. That doesn't make them Anti GAY. I think the entire situation was avoidable and unnecessary. But it appears Henson threw the first punch.

The Henson Company didn't pull the toys, CFA did. The Henson company just said they were no longer going to partner with CFA, they said in future endeavors. In the interim, CFA issued the recall with the statement that there were safety issues. In fact, there were no safety issues, that was the lie. Here's the statement from the Muppets facebook page "The Jim Henson Company has celebrated and embraced diversity and inclusiveness for over fifty years and we have notified Chick-fil-A that we do not wish to partner with them on any future endeavors. Lisa Henson, our CEO is personally a strong supporter of gay marriage and has directed us to donate the payment we received from Chick-fil-A to GLAAD." It is very very clear CFA was the one doing the hurting. They did make false accusations about the safety. The harm done is to the reputation of the company. Now, from your perspective CFA became heroes. And all the Christian folks now think the Muppet toys aren't safe. That's the harm.

two posts up, Deedee stated "they weren't even pulled by CFA, they were pulled because Henson decided not to continue their relationship." And the headline on Business Insider online reads:
"The Jim Henson Company Is Shunning Chick-Fil-A And Pulling Toys From Kids Meals".
But regardless of who pulled the toys – I still do not see HOW pulling the toys voluntarily (which it was clearly stated "CFA voluntary" so no insinuation there) hurts the reputation of the Muppets – if any one, it would hurt he company that actually manufactured the toys, but they don't seem too concerned with it. Your thoughts on this: Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino vowed to make it “very difficult” for the company to open a Boston location “unless they open up their policies.” So, he's saying unless CFA change their religous beliefs on gay marriage, they can't open a Boston restaurant? Wow. Also, I don't think anyone should be deemed a hero in this story – it's nothing more than two differing views and one company trying to harm another. Unfortunately, you and I disagree with which company is which.

Deedee's statement, unfortunately, wasn't quite accurate. CFA is who issued the recall, I'm not citing another writer, I'm citing CFA's statement, better to take from the horse's mouth. The insinuation was simply made by saying the toys weren't safe, that's all it was – not a biggie, just that they aren't safe. You know, rumor has toppled governments and ruined people, one little whisper. I knew a man whose life was ruined because someone said he had AIDS. He didn't, he had leukemia, but back then he lost his job, lost his friends, and all over a rumor. All this mud-slinging just like politicians do and I'm not a fan of that either – I hate the posturing stance. The Boston mayor and others may have to tangle with the ACLU, so this will be interesting. I agree that we disagree, you are a formidable opponent and we've had a respectable debate.

CFA announced the recall to mask the true reason why the toys would not be available. The toys were no longer available because Henson pulled their business from them. The Henson statement said they would no longer do business with CFA and said any money they did make would be donated to GLAAD. Thats the entire point of this story, Henson decided to stop supplying the toys because they did not like CFA's stance on gay rights but CFA decided to make a lie about the toys having a safety issue.

*sigh* sure that's the point someone is trying to turn into some big malicious scandal – but I'll backtrack and ask you, Deedee, why the need for the Henson Co to make such a controversial public statement in the first place? why not just pull the toys? My opinion is that they wanted to hurt CFA, for personal gain. Right or wrong in their method, CFA may have retaliated. I absolutely think BOTH parties behaved poorly. Now Kathleen & I have decided to agree to disagree. Maybe we need to do the same.

you're so smart honey, you make me so proud. I'm gonna miss the waffle fries. love you mommy

Actually in the bible there is not an accurate translation to English about the sin of homosexuality. There isn't even a word for homosexuality in the native language of the bible. http://www.fishoutofwaterfilm.com/ *This film can sum up just about every reference in the bible about homosexuality, but if you don't trust a homosexual's word on it you can always discuss it with any Ancient Hebrew or other Semitic language scholars. Or even look it up yourself. *

Thanks for the accurate point you have of Jesus' teachings, maybe more than just a handful of us will remember that and let things move on. Forgive and do good works. Whether you're religious or not no one can dispute the fact that letting go does more good than continuing such petty games.

so its okay to lie and bear false withness * which is a sin in their religion btw ) but its not okay to support gay marriage? makes sense.

Why do people, not companies, use the bible to justify their dislike or hatred for another group or individual. Let's face it, unless a person whose name is Chic-fil-a named this company after him/herself there is someone at the head of the Corp. that made this decision. Jesus talked of love, not hate. If there was ever a person who could have started a list of people, nationality or ethnic origin to hate he certainly did. How do you think people who are homosexual fill about being singled out. I went on vacation to Florida and while driving there I passed one the largest confederate flags being displayed from a flagpole. About that time a van with black college students passed me by. I couldn't help but wonder how seeing that flag flying in defiance made them feel.

Has anyone seen uncle Dean i think he was kidnapped by aliens

Mitts up by 5 points i feel a landslide coming

By the way criticizing the inept security at the Olympics was the right thing to do this is no time to have your guard down

I know what he's talking about and if what happened to him happened to me, I would probably feel the same way. Trust me, Mel is one of the best men I know and he & Jane Graham (aka Mommy Graham) have been a huge part of my life! I know why he feels the way he does, but I also know that not all gays are extreme like the ones he had to deal with. I have a lot of gay friends and two couples that I know just truly want to share their lives and have the same benefits as we as traditional married couples have. Mostly health benefits, social security benefits & tax benefits.

If you don't like ChikFilA then don't support their business! Who CARES!

Well, the only people I have seen saying this are the same people who are saying that "nameless sources" are saying CFA gives money to "charities that fight gay marriage". If you want to be believed then tell the whole story with names and dates. I don't know what the deal is about the toys, but I am not taking the word of "the Inquistor" or their anti CFA hacks.

I'm sick of hearing about Chik-Fil-A………. It's nothing more than Freedom of Speech PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This story is so bogus! Fabricated at best. I've had a birds eye view of the entire ordeal. SHEESH! Where do you come up with this stuff?

Cindy I wholeheartedly agree with you.Come on people, it's a stupid toy and this is probably why CHick-Fil-A didn't say why the toy was pulled, because of people berating them for their beliefs…I for one still stand with CFA!!

They didn't have to explain themselves. Thats the point. They chose to and in doing so lied and made the JH company look bad. Its defamation of character and is actually illegal. Hope they get sued.

@ Richard Shelnutt

It can have its values and I don;t have to eat there. But its ironic they say you can't be gay but one of the 10 commandments is not to lie yet they did about why the toys were pulled(when they didn't have to explain it at all) and created a fake account to back up their lie. I guess God is a bigot and a hypocrite since you can hate gay people and lie even though hating and lying are supposedly sins in themselves.

@ Richard Shelnutt

It can have its values and I don;t have to eat there. But its ironic they say you can't be gay but one of the 10 commandments is not to lie yet they did about why the toys were pulled(when they didn't have to explain it at all) and created a fake account to back up their lie. I guess God is a bigot and a hypocrite since you can hate gay people and lie even though hating and lying are supposedly sins in themselves.

The media wants to turn this into some malicious political stance, but my question would be: why the need for the Henson Co to make such a controversial public statement in the first place? why not just pull the toys? Unless of course, they wanted to hurt CFA, for personal gain. That was extremely poor, unprofessional and unncecessary on the part of the Henson Co as well. Two wrongs clearly don't make a right – but it also doesn't make one party liable and the other the victim. Both in this case may have displayed poor judgement in handling the situation.

Becky. It is trite to you because it doesn't concern you. It is not trite to me because my partner and I are denied equal benefits that married couples are allowed.

They can have their freedom of speech. I could give a flying flip less what their beliefs are, but I will not give my money to them becaue they would use my money to fight gay rights. How dumb would that be? You all think we (gays) are upset because of what they said. No, it's who they donate OUR money to. So I will not give them my money no more.

Jesus should have nothing to do with my equal rights from the government. All I want is to be considered equal. So, we are not equal because who we love? Bull. I am a human and I deserve the same rights and benefits as others.

You have every right to take your business where you wish, just as Chick-fil-A has every right to donate to the charities they wish. I am saying I won't take the word of biased media for the whole truth, especially when the sources remain anonymous.

Cindy you dumb bitch, the company is promoting homophobia — donating to anti-GLBT groups and Henson has the right to revoke their product from being part of the insipid's happy meals. What's your problem with homosexuals? Afraid you might catch it yourself? Religious dogma is causing REAL, LIVE, human suffering. DERP

but they DO DISCRIMINATE, YOU FUCKING BAG

They can believe whatever retarded crap they want, but they can't discriminate on customers, ARE YOU ALL THIS FUCKING STUPID?

It doesn't matter if they claim to be christian or not, they can't discriminate based on sexual orientation in America. ZING. fucking mouth-breathing retards. Religion = control. there is no fucking god, get the fuck over it, morons. You actually fucking believe that bullshit they tried to push down my throat for 12 years? Kill yourselves now you fucking useless retards. Religion causes HATE

Paula, no one ever said they were anonymous or nameless. It is very clearly stated that WinShape donates to anti-gay groups, even some designated as hate groups by the SPLC. http://www.snopes.com/politics/sexuality/chickfila.asp

How f*cking ARROGANT is it that people assume there's some fairy-tale all-powerful supernatural deity that gives two sh*ts about you… oh isn't that cute, just like Santa Claus, promises presents if you're good, punishment if you're bad, and it's all fucking BULLSHIT.

Paula Qualls Gurley Also, "Graddick said he was referring to more than $5 million in donations that Chick-fil-A has given to anti-LGBT organizations. Graddick said in his statement that those organizations included the American Family Assn. and Family Research Council. The Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit civil rights organization, describes both groups as being actively "anti-gay."" http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-chick-fil-a-kiss-in-20120802,0,3873417.story

Cindy DeMik Arndt to be honest, you're a fucking retard. Muppets want nothing to do with that vile hatred that is 'christianity' as proposed by some asshat who hocks chicken for a living. Fucking judging others for their sexual lifestyles, like it's any of their fucking business. How sacred is marriage when Fatty Rush Limbaugh is on his 4th wife, John McCain is on his 2nd, Biden REMARRIED after his wife was killed in an auto accident. Religion = control and all it does it tell you WHO TO HATE. Awww afraid to think for yourself? you're more than welcome in any of the thousands of churches around the world, they'll happily take your money and tell you wonderful lies about later, in exchange for your money, now.

Cindy DeMik Arndt Chick fil A COULD have avoided it, if they hadn't been such hate-filled homophobes; only makes me suggest the guy has homosexual tendencies himself and is overcompensating for his own perceived shortcomings. "We're not worthy! We're not worthy! We suck!"

The only ppl preaching hate are those such as yourself, Phil E Drifter. But your reply is typical (name calling & full of anger – rather than common sense). Believing in traditional marriage is NOT the same as being anti-gay. Period. CFA treats every customer with respect. What it comes down to is that the Henson CO had every right to pull their toy if they no longer wished to have a business relationship with CFA. What wasn't necessary, was their public statement with the intent to create controversy and attack a privately owned business for their religious beliefs. Had they simply pulled the toys, ALL of this nonsense would've been avoided, but they chose to turn it into some nonexistent scandal. I think it's awesome that their controversial attacks on CFA were met with an incredible turn out of supporters for CFA on Aug 1st. Those wanting to boycott a family business, failed.

keep fuckin' that chicken, cindy, and you're goddamn right, i hate you fucking religiards. You're all fucking delusional and religious dogma causes human suffering; like all those teenagers Sandusky raped…praise jebus!

You fuckin' religitards are holding evolution back. I'm glad your kids are born with MS which a friend of mine was born with and died before graduating CATHOLIC high school… how much you wanna bet the school didn't refund the money her family paid, which paid for 5 children? They didn't get sh*t. praise be to god, your daughter has multiple schlorosis and died at age 18. PRAISE JEBUS

I am chick fila

moral teachings are you kidding me yeah as moral as slaves were !!

oh please I asume you are castrated then as the bible says men should be !

Kim Bean Amen Kim so many selfproclaimed christians think they can sit and quote a bible verse and that makes them crist like you are so right they totally missed jesus message!!!

Looks like most of you missed the message of the Gospel that I clearly wrote about. Perhaps you need to read with understanding and take my comments as a whole instead of commenting based on your preconceived bias. You have bought the lie that those who are against the homosexual lifestyle are "hateful". Being gay in itself does not send someone to hell. Sin and the rejection of Christ sends us to hell, based on scripture. If we believe in hell and try to warn people against going there, while telling them about the forgiveness they can receive in Christ, how is that hateful? Someone in our life cared enough to teach us the Gospel of Jesus, so we are also aware of our sins, or should be. It would be more hateful to let someone go to hell without at least giving them a helpful warning. If your friends or family's house was on fire, would it be hateful to help them to get out? If you don't believe what the Bible says about homosexuality, and the fact it states Jesus died for the sins of the world, and that we are all sinners in need of salvation (myself included), then there is nothing I can say that will convince you. That is between you and God.

Elaine Murray I would be quite interested to know which Bible verse commands all men to be castrated. The Bible speaks about the subject of castration, but I am not aware of this commandment. Please reference. It would be rather difficult to father children in that case. And no, quoting scripture does not make one like Christ, you are correct. There are many hypocrites, Christian and non-Christian. Many liberals also claim to be tolerant of the views of others, but show nothing but contempt for those who disagree with them. However, for you to suggest I am "self-proclaimed" just because I quoted the Bible shows that you think you know me personally (which you don't) and that you are also judging me based on a preconceived notion. That is your choice, but not based on knowledge, only assumption.

Kellie Fleming Walter Thanks for your comment Kellie..at least one person understands what I was talking about. The point is that the article talks about the message of Jesus, but obviously is not willing to look at the total message of Jesus as presented in the Gospel. It is focusing only on a limited portion of scripture to try to make a political or social point. Jesus loves all and died for all, but still says sin is sin. There are many sins Jesus preached against, not just sexual sins. The Bible says "While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us". Jesus also said that his presence would cause division, even among families, because of the very nature of who he claimed to be and the nature of the human heart. This notion that Jesus is a world uniter is false. His kingdom is not in this present world, but in the world yet to come. He is interested in saving souls, not in community organizing. Jesus never promised fairness in this life, only eternal security in the next life for those who will accept him as the savior. I personally need his mercy because I know I am a sinner and I need his forgiveness daily.

Barbara Bricker Culotti if you knew the bible you would know historians cant even say for sure the meanings of some of it due to translations not being accurate and the symbolism of times is so different!

your rights how does equal rights for gay people affect your rights !!

omg where in the h– do you get that nowhere in the bible does God call that an abomination dont spout your rubbish and put Gods name on it! Dear God please help these idiots!

Hannah Knise yes hannah and I dont see a commandment that says thou shalt not be gay!

Elaine…Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shall not lie with a man as with a woman. It is an ABOMINATION!" read it for your self…Romans 1:24-27 "Therefore God gave them up to uncleaness, in the lust of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them up to VILE passions. For even ther women exchanged the NATURAL use for what is AGAINST nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the NATURAL use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is SHAMEFUL, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due."

Oh yeah, right! Chick-fil-A NEEDED to create FAKE supporters because the millions+ people that showed up on the Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day was not enough to make the point that the mass majority of people DO SUPPORT Chick-fil-A's position on the traditional family AND free speech! Btw, unless you were personally involved in the decision concerning the Muppet toys, just give it a rest since you are clueless and ignorant as to what actually transpired and the reasonings behind it!~.

Oh yeah, right! Chick-fil-A NEEDED to create FAKE supporters because the millions+ people that showed up on the Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day was not enough to make the point that the mass majority of people DO SUPPORT Chick-fil-A's position on the traditional family AND free speech! Btw, unless you were personally involved in the decision concerning the Muppet toys, just give it a rest since you are clueless and ignorant as to what actually transpired and the reasonings behind it!~.