Chicago Woman, 24, Dies At Hospital After Abortion

THIS IS WHY ABORTION SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE A LAST RESORT IF EVER AT ALL! LADIES PLEASE DOn't FOOL YOURSELVES INTO THINKING THIS BRUTAL "PROCEDURE" HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT IS BEST FOR WOMEN.

Condolences to the family. Any procedure or surgery carries risks of death. It is rare but always possible. There is no way to guarantee safety, unfortunately.

Awww dat sux she died tryna kill a baby….Eye For an Eye!

Someone very close to me had two in the past and has never been able to have a baby..I am a single mother my boy is 18yrs old and abortion was not an option for me.

I'm not a woman, so I really have no say on abortion unless my significant other becomes pregnant. What I will say is that people die everyday and the majority of them are not from abortions. So before the pro-life brigade comes in here and starts typing in all CAPS, lets take a second and realize that little fact.

THAT's WHAT SHE GETS FOR KILLING THE BABY! Its a baby at conception and if she didn't want a child, she should have kept her legs closed or given it up for adoption so that another couple could enjoy having a family!

I agree

This is sad, but abortion is still safer than childbirth. More women die from childbirth than abortions. Let's not get carried away. If there was medical malpractic it was the hospital, not the procedure itself. Too many places still have to treat abotions like botched back alley jobs because of the restrictive nature of many, many abortion laws, and those restrictions can result in situations like this.

This is sad, but abortion is still safer than childbirth. More women die from childbirth than abortions. Let's not get carried away. If there was medical malpractic it was the hospital, not the procedure itself. Too many places still have to treat abotions like botched back alley jobs because of the restrictive nature of many, many abortion laws, and those restrictions can result in situations like this.

Before any medical procedure patients are required to sign an acknowledgement that they are aware of and understand the risks involved. Death is one of them.

Before any medical procedure patients are required to sign an acknowledgement that they are aware of and understand the risks involved. Death is one of them.

Thats cruel you do not know her circumstances or situation

Thats cruel you do not know her circumstances or situation

What if she was raped or that something was wrong with the baby that she had no choice to do it. Think about like that. Who knows the situation what if you died and someone who dont know say that was Amanda gets. If she was wrong that is no way to say that about the died have some respect.

Its not an eye for an eye cause the fedus died its not a child nor a human being till it was in the second trimester. Your child (as a doll that she is) is a human being cause of its brain function but no brain then its not a human.

Its not an eye for an eye cause the fedus died its not a child nor a human being till it was in the second trimester. Your child (as a doll that she is) is a human being cause of its brain function but no brain then its not a human.

sumthin is a human as soon as it has a heartbeat Duh! And a baby has a heartbeat as soon as it is made so i guess if u say so

Christopher Rivera she wasnt to down and out to spread her laegs and get pregnant sooo

Good for you Jamile. I spent years as a single mother and I am thankful every day that I have my child and step children and that nobody chose to abort them. Children are gifts and should be treated as such.

People on here are so fucking evil. What if she was raped or what if she didn't have a choice. That's what she get and an eye for an eye I hope the people who say something about the die and the hands of another person so I can say that about you. This is a life here and don't say she killed a life too cause that was not a human it was a fedus. And any doctors could tell you that.

People on here are so fucking evil. What if she was raped or what if she didn't have a choice. That's what she get and an eye for an eye I hope the people who say something about the die and the hands of another person so I can say that about you. This is a life here and don't say she killed a life too cause that was not a human it was a fedus. And any doctors could tell you that.

regardless of how the baby was conceived it is still a baby! and we cant just go around aborting every child that may be special needs or "has something wrong with it". If we did, half of Americas population would be nonexistent. Also, nobody will have to say something like this about me whenever i die because I will never attempt to take someone else's life just to make mine easier. Lastly, I do have respect but not for murderers or people who sympathize with murderers; plus, I'm entitled to my own opinion just as you are.

IT IS A BABY AFTER THE 12TH WEEK WHICH IS THE 1ST TRIMESTER IT IS A PROVEN FACT……… THE HEART IS ALREADY FORMED AT THE AGE……….LEARN UR FACTS MONICA

It does suck but before we go pointing fingers for a poor dead woman how about we let this stand as a warning to be cautious in our decision making. We truly don't know why she did it and what doctor/boyfriend/or family member might have pressured her into a situation she didn't really want.

well nobody could pressure me into killin my baby fukk that

I WAS RAPED & BEFORE ANYBODY SAYS ANYTHING ON WHY I HAD AN ABORTION i WAS JUST 19YRS OLD & THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH BABY & MY HEALTH i WAS 5 1/2 MONTHS IT DAMNED NEAR KILLED ME TO DO THAT BUT MY LIFE WAS ON THE LINE ALSO…. I CHOSE TO LIVE….SORRY..& NO I CAN'T HAVE ANY BABIES NOW OR THEN HAD TO HAVE A TOTAL HYSTERECTOMY……SO YA'LL NEED TO THINK BEFORE U WRITE SOMETHING NEG………

As a victim of being sexual abuse I disagree with you to the fullest. SHE DID NOT MURDER ANYONE any doctor will tell you that when a woman is on her first trimester that it is not a human being. So do you have sympathy for the men/women who are in the war and they die cause they kill people too. And someone would disrepect you when you died trust people are intitle to their opinion remember that.

Monica, as you have been told by other readers, the "fetus" is a human . as a matter of fact between 8 and 72 hours after sexual intercourse the sperm and egg combine and have enough chromosomes and genetic material to be a HUMAN BEING. by 10 weeks, that baby has a brain, a heart beat, and fully formed hands and feet. No it cannot survive outside of the womb, but a newborn cannot survive without around the clock care so does that mean it is okay to kill them too.

Erika… Nobody is pressuring you to kill your baby, so….?

sum people should do research before they talk cuz now she look dumb ass hell smh. How da hell u gone say sumthin aint alive and it has a whole fukkin heartbeat HELLO!

come on she had a 2 day procedure… they put lil sticks in to dialate her cervix then the following day they did the extraction of THE BABY!.. it was a human being it had a brain it could suck its thumb and anything unborn is a FETUS inside the womb i know for a fact because my cousin had this procedure and she was way to far along to be getting it done in the first place she felt her child moving and kicking the child would have shown up on a sonogram… so how could you say that it was not a human? im not saying that this young lady shouldnt have done this but whats the logic behind what you are saying because i truly dont understand and i'd like to know who taught you that cause they need not teach any body else that malarkey

Amanda Meades SO KEEP IT TO URSELF THEN……………I AM NOT A MURDERER SO DO NOT EVEN REPLY IF U CAN NOT SAY SOMETHING NICE…..I HAD NO CHOICE AT ALL….MAYBE THIS GIRL DIDN'T EITHER U WILL NEVER KNOW HOW OR WHY SHE DID IT….. BUT I KNOW MINE……..MY BABY GIRL WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SAME AGE AS THIS GIRL HAD SHE BEEN ABLE TO LIVE BUT SHE COULDN'T.. & I ABOUT LOST MY OWN LIFE WITH HERS…… NOT PROUD OF WHAT HAD TO BE DONE… BUT I AM ALIVE ,,, WILL NEVER FORGET WHAT HAPPENED EITHER..SO DO NOT JUDGE PEOPLE UNTIL U KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THEM…………………….

Ryan Carranza i wsas referring to sumbody elses comment again do sum research before u talk

i did think about what i was saying and i truly meant every word of it. im sorry to hear that you were raped, that is a tragedy (seriously, not sarcastically) however, you got pregnant and you were meant to have a child- YOUR child, not the rapists; and your age does not matter. I was 19 when I had my 1st daughter and no, she was not planned and no, the father was not happy about it but she is now one of the best things that has happened to me! i wouldn't change her for the world. See, things and situations come into our lives to make us stronger and teach us things but if you just go around eliminating every inconvenience, what will you learn?!

Amanda…will you start sending money to women who were raped that keep their babies? Will you help the family out financially that can't afford a special needs child…will you get them the best health care? Stop being so narrow minded. If you are anti-abortion…DON'T GET ONE!!! Again, we don't even know what happened or why she made that decision but you do seem awfully ready to throw stones.

Wow, after reading the posts below, I really appreciate what you said… It's very sad that ppl can't just be sad for the family's tragic loss, they have to use her death as a reason for why abortion is not okay. very sad.

what doctors are you talking to????!!!! My brother is a doctor. I have taked enough biology and child development, and genetics courses myself to know what you say is BS that somebody told you to make you feel better. Sorry but its true. Additionally, your example of the military: if the military did not do what they do by killing "enemies" then there would be a lot more bloodshed here on American soil. If you die killing to protect the greater good it is noble. If you die killing to protect your own personal interest it is selfish. I am sorry for what happened to you. No woman deserves to be treated as sexual property but that still gives us no right to kill an innocent person and justify it

Why did she have an abortion if she had a fiancé unless she was cheating in him KARMA

AMANDA DID U EVEN READ WHAT I SAID…… I SAID BOTH OF OUR LIVES WERE IN DANGER OF BOTH OF US DYING…..U SEE CANCER DOES THAT SO SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT THIS……..I HAD CANCER WHICH SPREAD TO MY BABY…..SEE WHY I HAD TO DO WHAT I DID THAT IS WHY I HAD TO HAVE A HYSTERECOMY SO EARLY IN MY LIFE………………….

had she been in early stages of her pregnancy they wouldnt even have used the inserts.. my goodness how dumb is society nowadays… as a grown woman you should be ashamed of what you just said becaus that shit was just stupid.. yeah yeah freedom of speech we all have a rite to our own opinion… but that my dear was stupid…. smh

had she been in early stages of her pregnancy they wouldnt even have used the inserts.. my goodness how dumb is society nowadays… as a grown woman you should be ashamed of what you just said becaus that shit was just stupid.. yeah yeah freedom of speech we all have a rite to our own opinion… but that my dear was stupid…. smh

ur ignorant for even putting something like that u should be slapped… like ANGELA what if there was something medically wrong with her carrying that child and she already had a son to live for…. i hope you never have kids, get pregnant or anything to make more ignorant ppl like you!

ur ignorant for even putting something like that u should be slapped… like ANGELA what if there was something medically wrong with her carrying that child and she already had a son to live for…. i hope you never have kids, get pregnant or anything to make more ignorant ppl like you!

No procedure is without risk. We know nothing about this woman's medical condition, whether she gave an accurate medical history, or what happened during the procedure. Tonsillectomies can be fatal, too.

I am so sorry for the family's tragic loss!! but I do hope that they know that not everyone thinks "that she got what she deserved", etc. I, for one, certainly don't think that. PLEASE RESPECT THE DECEASED!!!

Erika, Sorry, but you simply stated in a single comment that nobody could pressure you into killing your baby. Kinda hard to tell who you were referring to.

well I usually read all the comments before I post one

It's sad that she died from this procedure. I don't know her story, it's none of my business… I just think it's ridiculous how so many people can use this one situation for their stance on a major issue like abortion. I agree with you.

TY TIFFANI FOR UNDERSTANDING MY SITUATION……

Many fetuses, if born in an appropriate facility at 24 weeks can survive. D&E are usually done in the second trimester so it is sad that she didn't wait and deliver the baby and develop an adoption plan. Someone would have truly loved to have the opportunity to parent that priceless child.

Oh Planned Parenthood cares deeply about all of their patients…what about the babies that they kill? oh the sick irony.

TO ALL OF YOU! I am not trying to judge you personally. I am simply stating my opinion which, in case you haven't realized, that's what the comment section of online articles like this are for.
Your decisions are your own and it sucks that you have no value for a human life that has no say for itself. I dont give a flip what doctors say about when a life has begun but as far as I am concerned, the moment of conception is the moment that the life has started.
As far as war is concerned (M. Logan), killing anyone for any reason is wrong. I do not agree with terrorism whether it be here (in America) or in any other country.
(J.Gaffney)- if I had the money to help out everyone in the world that was strained for money, I would without a second thought. However, any mother who loves their child will do anything in their power to provide for it. I also do not believe that you get anything in life that you cant handle. Also, I do not think I am being "narrow minded", I am SIMPLY STATING MY OPINION!

Additionally, I also believe that people who kill other people because for some reason they felt the need to (what you would refer to as 1st, 2nd and 3rd degree murderers) should also be put to death for ending someone elses life instead of wasting tax payers money in prison! just sayin!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!IN CLOSING!!!!!!!!

i STAND BY WHAT i SAID ORIGINALLY:
THAT's WHAT SHE GETS FOR KILLING THE BABY! Its a baby at conception and if she didn't want a child, she should have kept her legs closed or given it up for adoption so that another couple could enjoy having a family!

Way to go, Monica!!!
Amanda, I can't believe the way you are acting! I hope to God the family doesn't see your disrespectful posts!!! yes you have an opinion and that is great but don't post it on here!! Have respect!! and just because you don't think that abortion is okay doesn't mean that there are people that you know very well that disagree with you

Way to go, Monica!!!
Amanda, I can't believe the way you are acting! I hope to God the family doesn't see your disrespectful posts!!! yes you have an opinion and that is great but don't post it on here!! Have respect!! and just because you don't think that abortion is okay doesn't mean that there are people that you know very well that disagree with you

*aren't people. understand where you're coming from but these people just lost their daughter mother twin sister, etc.

*aren't people. understand where you're coming from but these people just lost their daughter mother twin sister, etc.

A.Moore- im sorry your life sucked so badly at one point and that it came down to you making the decision between your life or losing your life and the babies but if this conversation is upsetting you that much that you have to resort to all caps (which by the way, not scary and not making your point any differently) than maybe you should stop reading all the comments and and go about your business.

this is what comment sections are for people!!!!!! don't criticize me for my opinion. I respect your opinion and your right to have it but don't shove it in my face just because you disagree.

The heart is not what makes a person. The Brain is. The heart pumps blood threw the body. Unless you are an Egyptian that believes the brain is just wasted space and the real brain is in the heart than I don't understand how you can believe that. I mean it is in fact a very out of date theory. Much like the world is flat. I believe in some cases abortion is a necessary evil. Rape cases for example. In another instance maybe the baby has something wrong with it and it will just end up dying anyway with much pain before hand. Maybe the mother has nothing to offer the child because her husband left her and she has other children already and they are living on the street because she can't find a job. So they collect cans just to get by. You can not judge other people and condemn them without walking in there shoes feeling what they feel knowing what they know. Erika it seems you are blessed enough to be able to take care of your children witch is so awesome. But leave the judging to god if he is even up there. I believe abortion should always be a last resort option. And it is just that. An option. Weather or not a woman chooses to use it is her business. But I myself will not judge someone who does. Nor think of there life as any less valuable.

Damn she killed a innocent baby and in turn she lost her life. My question is if she had a fiance why was she having an abortion? Women need to learn how to protect themselves from getting pregnant. Just cause you think the wood feel better raw doesn't make it no more right. Killing innocent a fetuses isn't the key strapping up is.

Why have an abortion, it is MURDER

Alyssum Rain Corvus… Bravo!

A D&E is a standard medical procedure done in cases of abortion AND miscarriage. I had 2 of these "brutal procedures" done in 2009 due to miscarriage. This woman's death is a tragedy. The fact that she had an abortion is irrelevant.

The only time abortion is maybe remotely okay is if sumone was raped All those other problems u stated If sumone is so down and out and has all these kids and living on the street then they should be out lookin for a damn job not laid up havin unprotected sex wtf? ANd if u are so horny they give away free condoms by da boatlaod at any clinic u walk into so spare me the excuses!

And I am blessed but there is times where I cant take care of my kid so u know what I make the ADULT decision to not hav Unprotected sex cuz I cant afford no more kids! Sounds simple enuff right?!

This is a medical procedure and as such the procedure belongs solely to the woman and her doctor. The decision itself belongs solely to the woman and her God. No one can sit in judgement without committing their own sin and as such belongs solely to the sinner and God.

that is total BS–I worked in a clinic and emptied the jars–they are babies–plain and simple. Tell yourself whatever you have to to get through it. Every one has a choice. Your choice is yours–but it is time to stop with all the ugliness and arguing over whether human life has a right to live.

-_-' Hun that was a true story I told in sort about a Mexican woman who's husband abandoned her and his own children to "be free off them" because he didn't like staying in one place for long. He would move them constantly and she finally said she didn't want to move anymore. So he left them and said he would send her money. He never did. She ended up not being able to make the rent so they got kicked out of the apartment. She couldn't travel because she had no money. She didn't speak English. She tried making empanadas to sell on the street corner to make money before they got kicked out as well as trying to find work. No one would hire her because she didn't speak english. She ended up on the street with her little ones they were starving to death. One day she saw a man digging threw the garbage and saw that he was collecting cans. She fallowed him to see were he was taking them. She saw that he was getting money for them so she started doing that to make money. Eventually she saved up enough to stay in nasty broken down apartment which was more the space of a motel room. She realized she was pregnant when she started throwing up etc. She did not get pregnant by having sex randomly because she was horny. She got pregnant from her husband that out of the blue left her and the kids. She didn't even have money for an abortion. So she got help from her neighbor who gave her an herb that aborted the baby. She was a beautiful caring and loving person that was in a bad spot. Again do not be so quick to judge. I'm sure you don't like being judged so try not to do it to others.

in short* Sorry bad spelling.

That's some hateful s*** you have no idea what was going on in her personal life to feel that she had to do that

that's were your wrong. That fetus you call it, has a soul …., during such risky procedures the woman can start bleeding and her blood pressure bottoms out then her heart will stop. She could of been allergic to the anesthesia (some people are-i am) at which the patient goes into cardiac arrest . The circumstance surrounding the incident happened so fast they said, so it was probably cardiac arrest from the sensitivity to the anesthesia and drugs used during the procedure. We don't know her hisory either, so there are other issues not stated in the story. I feel bad for the woman who lost her life, that is sad…i feel for the aborted baby as well. It's all in all a tragedy.

that's were your wrong. That fetus you call it, has a soul …., during such risky procedures the woman can start bleeding and her blood pressure bottoms out then her heart will stop. She could of been allergic to the anesthesia (some people are-i am) at which the patient goes into cardiac arrest . The circumstance surrounding the incident happened so fast they said, so it was probably cardiac arrest from the sensitivity to the anesthesia and drugs used during the procedure. We don't know her hisory either, so there are other issues not stated in the story. I feel bad for the woman who lost her life, that is sad…i feel for the aborted baby as well. It's all in all a tragedy.

just b/c its in caps doesn't make me want to care about it anymore then what i already do…

Another thing people have different beliefs. Some people believe just as strongly that if you have sex with a condom it is murder because the sperm don't have a chance at life. I was personally condemned by my rapist for using the morning after pill. The guy raped me and he had the balls to try and make me feel guilty for using the morning after pill. Sad and messed up world we live in yes?

wow, so you went into full blown menopause at 19 years old? I feel for you, i am sorry for your loss. But look at it this way dear at least you don't have to mess with those periods and all that entails, and you can always adopt. There's children that would love someone to love them…..there's pets that need good homes too….i am sorry that tragic event happened to you. I pray that god will heal your broken heart and your emotions and your soul from this bad thing that happened.

then don't shove yours in everbody elses faces either ,, which is what u are doing….

Let me see…."judge not, lest you be judged…." ever read the bible…..you have no right to say such a cruel and unnecessary thing…Northwest High School – hope you are still an immature kid – you have a lot to learn.

Angela-you obviously have the brains and maturity and common sense that Miss Amanda seems to lack – yes you have a right to your opinion, Amanda but calling people names (murderers?) because you disagree with what they have chosen is best for them and their circumstances is totally wrong – live and let live and until you walk in someone else's shoes, I wouldn't be so quick to judge if I were you. Angela, I'm so sorry you had to go thru that ordeal when you were 19 and then have people like above tear you down. Be strong. God bless!

And more children die from abortions than from childbirth.

And more children die from abortions than from childbirth.

Angela M Moore I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF UR SITUATION AND SYMPATHIZE WITH YOU 100% Everyone else can ride a big fat POPSICLE(working on my language). Why be a (D)ick when u don't have to be to someone who has been thru a tragedy? Is ur life so miserable that u have to try and bring someone down to ur level? PRO-CHIOCE!

Unfourtunate and sad.

Amanda Meades u have hate about u and I can see it clear as day. If ur a PRO-LIFE person, u wouldn't even opt for death….yeah u some other kind of nut ball. Thanks for sharing ur opinion, THAT IS ALL!

U can strap up and still get pregnant, we don't know her circumstances or what made her have an abortion….gota love the media!

My condolence to u, I too had to have a D&C after it was discovered my baby had no heart beat. This was tragic for me since I only had 1 child, a teenager. I have had 2 kids since that the good lord has blessed us with!

First I want to say that I am very sorry for the loss this family is undergoing. Having just lost my mother I know how hard a sudden loss can be. That being said I am a firm believer that life is indeed started as soon as there is a heartbeat. Unless the life of the mother or child is at risk then there are other options. (Or it is a rape incest issue. ) What I would be curious to know is how far a long this person was. Because a procedure as hers is for people who miscarry a child and it is too big to just remove. If that is the case, although I still am saddened at the loss what she did in my eyes and in Gods eyes is murder. Just plain cold blooded murder.

Wow ,I feel the same way. I am very sorry for their loss. But she shouldn't have had an abortion. She obviously didn't take the precaution needed to prevent the pregnancy . It not anyone's place to take a life but God's . What a sad and horrible event.

Amanda – you are right…this is a forum for people to post their opinions. But if you didn't want opposition to your opinions then you should not have posted in the first place. I have no problem with discussing my opinions on these forums with people that disagree with me. but I don't get upset or surprised when they do.

But to comment on your original post: You are despicable! I don't care what the lady of this article did. To say you are glad someone died (what would have been a painful and frightening and conscious death) is immoral! I hope for what ever reason you leave this world, there isn't a world wide article about it that people can say such horrendous things about you in. To bad the family can't sue you and others here for emotional pain and suffering.

And do you know how many children are available for adoption? in July 2012, there were approximately 400,540 children in the U. S. in foster care system. Those are unwanted children that have not been adopted and are neglected and some abused. There are over 1.3 million abortions each year due to different circumstances. Would you rather there be 1.7 MILLION children in foster care? Do you think our economy or natural resources can support that? Again this gets bigger every YEAR!! I am in no way advocating for women to get abortions. I am only advocating that it is no one else decision except for may be the father but he has little recourse. For the women that come to the tough decision that they must get an abortion, I don't shun or harass them. I admire their courage and their self awareness that they are not capable of caring for a child and don't want to burden the rest of society with it. And yes I realize that there are some girls that have multiple abortions ad use it as a form of birth control, but they are not as common as people would like to think and it is still none of our business anyway! It should only become our business is the girl is using tax payer money for the abortions and then yes, there should be a limit to how many you can get. Just like there is a limit to how much unemployment benefits you can claim.

You know what they say when you ASSUME? You make an ASS out of U! I would watch out if I were you if you really do believe in Karma? Maybe we will be reading about your death and people will me making harsh snap judgements about you and make it available for your family to see!!!!

You have no idea the circumstances of this woman! Did the article say if the pregnancy was or was not from rape? did the article say if was in medical distress or if she miscarried (which doctors use this procedure for miscarries that aren't naturally aborted)? No no no. We do not have all the facts here and even if we did, how immoral of you to judge, especially on a public internet forum where the grieving family can see!

You have no idea the circumstances of this woman! Did the article say if the pregnancy was or was not from rape? did the article say if was in medical distress or if she miscarried (which doctors use this procedure for miscarries that aren't naturally aborted)? No no no. We do not have all the facts here and even if we did, how immoral of you to judge, especially on a public internet forum where the grieving family can see!

@ Erika – until you learn to spell and use proper grammar and are able to have adult discussions without resorting to infantile curse words…you should not be judging anybody!! Let alone the deceased.

Angela, bless your dear heart. I am so sorry for your loss. We should all think before we speak judgement. Escept for the grace of God it could be us or someone we know and love, eh? Thank you for speaking up and reminding us all to be kind.

@Lauren Nice Rebuttal Bravo! Lmfao! And no Idk y it says NorthWest High School been out of school for awhile now! And no I dont read the bible sooo I guess im damned now right! Lol

not a problem i believe that it is a womans choice REGARDLESS of the situation…. dont let ingorant jerks get into ur head!!!

Abortion sickens me. It should be illegal unless a doctor advises it or if it's insest or a result of a rape. Just my opinion. But sad for the family.

This incident should not be in the media. Why did the family go public in the first place? The media knows nothing as does the family at this point. The only answers will be found in her medical records which I am sure are being scrutinized at this very moment. No further discussion should be done until the facts are in.

I'm an atheist so I don't believe in damnation. You are the one that brought that up. Either way, you still can't spell. And you can judge people all you want. But be prepared to be judged in return. But you do not have the right to determine how another person will conduct themselves that are not breaking any laws.

Erika Moorman I-luvmybabygurl HAHAHAHAHA. I decided to quickly look at your facebook page to see if you put anything about work. Yes I noticed that your post says high school but I did not call attention to that, you did. But I love how you have a meme that reads "Before you judge me, make sure you're perfect" HAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAO!

ty to those who do understand what I have gone though & yes it was a horrible ordeal to go though…. GOD BLESS U ALL…..& Lee Ann I do have a dog that I call my fur-daughter…….ty u all again for ur support….

I am absolutely pro-choice, period and exclamation point. People die after all kinds of procedures, from c-sections to wisdom teeth removal. It's sad, without a doubt. Unless the doctor was doing something medically unethical and egregious (meaning illegal shit) then I don't judge him or the girl that underwent the procedure. Peace be unto the girls family and to the doctor's. No one ever wants that to happen to their patient.

Relax, Lauren, I am not judging I merely feel the way I feel. Had I been judging I would not feel sympathy for the family or feel sad for the loss of this young woman. All I said was I was merely curious. And I also stated that I would understand if it were a rape case etc. So relax. I did not say anything disrespectful to the family of this young woman.

Good to know you also dont read all the comments before u post because Clearly I was talking to about 3 different people not just u! Good to kno I have a stalker too! Lmfao Yay Me! And I can spell just fine thanx! Just becuz Im ONLINE and not writing an Essay for English class I can type how the hell I want thanks tho for the lesson! Lmfao

And wtf does work have to do with anything I love how u have no Intelligent arguement so you keep going way off course about stuff thats irrelevant to the topic!

judge NOT cuz I see u in the pic when ur beautiful daughter. Hope u won't have any medical condition that may require u to get a D&C. This girl DID HAVE A SON who has lost his mother… Prayin for u!

judge NOT cuz I see u in the pic when ur beautiful daughter. Hope u won't have any medical condition that may require u to get a D&C. This girl DID HAVE A SON who has lost his mother… Prayin for u!

What a horrible thing to say, you didnt know her nor her circumstances!

What a horrible thing to say, you didnt know her nor her circumstances!

I THINK ABORTION IS grewsome and gross as well.

I THINK ABORTION IS grewsome and gross as well.

a two day procedure geesh she was far enough for the baby to live outside the womb GOD rest her soul but geesh wth.

I actually thought this was joking when I read it then I saw your reply below

Well it is obvious that I am not going to be able to have a relevant conversation with you because as I stated, you cannot spell and resort to curse words which is reserved for children and imbeciles. And I did read all of your comments and made a conclusive opinion based on their collective. And by continuing to not use proper spelling you are only confirming my conclusion. I don't have intellectual conversations with people that I don't believe can comprehend them. If you want to grow up and join the world of the intelligent, then we can have a discussion on the topic at hand. Until then, I will only continue to point out your lack of an education.

And you started the post @Lauren. So I could only conclude that you were talking only to me. If you wanted to redirect part of your comment to someone else, then you should have made that evident.

A fetus is not a patient. Ever. Even if the mother is planning on keeping the child in utero and goes to an OBGYN. The patient is always the mother. The CIU is only a patient after it is outside the womb.

By law it is not a child until it takes it's first breath and no matter what it is not your choice and since you will not be at her side when she stands before her God that is between her and Her God not your fanatical viewpoint. Thank God I live in the United States of America where the Choice is mine not YOURS

There is no I for and Eye Maybe she just didn't have it in her to raise another child and her conterception failed Just hope thatyou don't find yourself in the position of having to make the decision.

Be cause God gave us a free will and he lets us make choices MURDER

I have a feeling Lauren trolls websites all day and corrects grammer Lmfao! Fun times…………

I'm sorry But I disagree with you. I believe every baby is a human at conception. God formed that little baby to have a purpose in the world. So the mother and the baby are a patient. I am not going to sit here and say that she deserved what she got for killing a baby. No. Thats cruel.Even though I totally disagreed with her choice, She and the baby were both human babies and it's sad that they both died.

Where is this evidence

An person justified there reason why she had it and say "I have my right to an opinion" and "I don't respect murderers."

We have over 400,000 children in the foster care system. Children that are not properly cared for. Children that are malnourished. Children that are alot of the times abused. And the majority of people in this country that live below the poverty line and go to bed hungry are children. There are over 1.3 million abortions a year. If you think that some god purposefully put them here to starve and be beaten and abused then I really can't help you. But if you think that we have a problem in this country with unemployment, and too many kids that are malnourished, go ahead and add another million. Also, there are research papers that say that abortion has lowered crime rate. Both in the children being abused and the fact that a large majority of children that grow up in the foster care system wind up being criminals. In other words, some god put them here to commit crimes. Roe v Wade even referenced the the social impact of bringing a child into a family that cannot psychologically care for it.

I was more talking to Shelly. But judging does not mean that it has to be negative. We judge people hundreds of times a day. You see someone wearing a dress you don't like and say "I wouldn't be caught dead wearing that ugly thing" or on the reverse, you see someone in a dress you like and say "man I would look awesome in that dress" The definition of to judge is: To form an opinion or estimation of after careful consideration. That is the same as "feel the way I feel". Just because you feel sympathy for the woman and her family, that does not mean you were not judging. But Shelly above assumed that the women didn't use birth control. Assumed there wasn't anything wrong with the baby or the mothers health, or that it wasn't from rape or incest. None of us know any of the detail, but even if we did, I still would find it abhorrent to go onto a public forum and condemn someone when the grieving family can always reference. Do unto others as you would have done to yourself.

Erika Moorman I-luvmybabygurl And you say you want to have an intelligent conversation about the articles topic? And that is your response. I came here looking for a conversation and you started this thread and continued to make assumptions, personal judgements and again horrible language. And so I pointed it out. And if you EVER want to have people take you seriously and treat you with respect, they you need to do that coming out of the gate. That is why you had so much opposition on this one thread. And I am sorry to throw the racial card in here, but you are perpetuating horrible stereotypes. And the republicans are trying to use stereotypes such as these to limit African American votes. It is a horrible thing to do. They did it in Florida during the Bush/Gore vote and now they are trying again. Now more than ever, you need to be presenting yourself in the best light possible. By sounding ignorant you are only fueling their fire. Again, I am sorry to make this about race, but you should be aware that the republicans are trying to stack the cards against you and you only only helping.

No brain function then its not a human being. The fetus is not a human being till its has brain function which comes during the 2nd trimester that's why abortion can not be done around that time because it become a human being so that's why doctors say the mother is there patients not the fetus. I mean that's your belief but what if she did it cause she was told that the fetus was not going to make it pass the 12th week. Things could happen but that's your beliefs but most people including women are saying that she got what she deserve. But little do you know not all Planned Parenthood do abortions they have to follow the state laws and they do care deeply about their patients…cause you can get test and birth control for little to nothing or free imagine for the women who dont have insurance do you know how much it cost.

Amanda Meades So do you have sympathy for soldiers and respect them . They kill people too. and she is not a murderer cause she didn't kill a human being but to justify your negative comment that is just a shame. But you cant call some body out of their sins cause you sinning too. Answer these following questions Do you eat pork? Wear jeans and pants? And curse? Lied? Worked on Saturday/Sunday? If you want to use faith or Christian belief "He or she without sin cast the first stone" And dont say "I know I sin and I know I am not perfect BS" only God could judge her not you.

ALRIGHTY THEN…………

Actually, two people died. The womb should be the safest place on the planet. I am saddened by the loss of both.

Thank you Angela Moore for that story…I was sexually abuse too and I completly agree with you. And then if she kept the baby and she was raped she would resent the child and would been a horrible mother.

Alyssum Rain Corvus yes it is my rapist uesd a condom so thoughtfull for him SMH

Erika Moorman I-luvmybabygurl the heart dont mean nothing. If you brain dead then your dead. Your brain is what makes anyone a human being no brain then you are concider a vegatable. Scitifical proof and an eye for an eye so said abortion is okay if the mother was rape now what if she was raped

you can't be for real-that is so untrue-any fetus under 12 weeks gestation cannot survive outside the womb so you cannot call it a child!!

i agree with you angela-noone has any right to pass there judgment on anyone else its actually noones business except your-these ppl who try and impose their beliefs on someone else need to keep quiet!!

We don't know all the details here. This procedure is actually used a lot of times when the baby dies in utero and is too big to pass naturally. We don't know if the baby was still born or not. We don't know if the woman was advised to have the abortion. Maybe she had preeclampsia. We don't know that she wasn't raped. There are a lot of details that we don't know. But every woman should have a choice not based on a case by case determination and extenuating circumstances.

Human beings are actually not very good at reproducing. Most embryos are miscarried. Somewhere between 50 and 60 percent. A lot of women miscarry and some don't even know it because if the egg is fertilized too close to a period it will be flushed before the woman even knows it. And women that are pregnant have to be very careful. They can't have caffeine, fish, alcohol, cigarettes or other drugs. A lot of women get preeclampsia and a lot have to go on bed rest. I'm sorry but the womb is not the safest place by far. You are safer in a padded cell in a psych ward than you are in a womb.

I understand about babies dying in utero for various reasons. But it should be the safest place for a baby from outside influences causing its death. Choosing abortion is killing a human being. Period.

Again, women who are pregnant shouldn't eat seafood high in mercury, unpasteurized foods (blue cheese), caffeine (soda), smoke, drink, take over the counter drugs and alot of prescription drugs (a lot of psych meds are off limits). Alot of outside influences can cause death or effect the fetal growth. abortion is not the only one. A slip and fall down the stairs can kill the fetus. Abortion is halting cells from becoming a human being. A fetus is not a human being.

The same goes for you sweetheart

The same goes for you sweetheart

I didn't make any assumptions, honey pie.

@Lauren, how does politics and the "so called" suppression of the vote play into this post, sheesh. Any excuse to turn something political. And we wonder why neither party can work together. It's statements like that that prove there is no middle anymore, it is either far left or far right.

@Lauren, how does politics and the "so called" suppression of the vote play into this post, sheesh. Any excuse to turn something political. And we wonder why neither party can work together. It's statements like that that prove there is no middle anymore, it is either far left or far right.

Clearly you didn't read all of the thread. I was specifically discussing Erika's language, grammar and spelling and that I was not willing to have a conversation about the topic unless she wanted to discuss it civilly and intelligently. She then claimed there was no reason to that this was just an online thread. I then proposed that she should always care about it and that she should be a good example for her child and that especially now at a time when there are some political parties trying to restrict the vote of those they believe will vote against them. I am actually against this and believe that we all should have the right to vote and any type of suppression is unconstitutional. If that makes me far left, then so be it.

I agree with you that everyone has a right to vote, but with that vote comes a responsibility. I don't believe that requesting a photo identification to vote is attempting to suppress a vote. Very little can be done these days without a form of photo identification and what is so wrong with needing it to vote? At least it would keep dead people from voting which has been in the news in recent elections as happening frequently enough to warrant an AP report on it. Also, given from her comments (which I agree could do without the text type and language) it seems she is quite conservative in her views and wouldn't want to suppress her anyway. You are making the assumption that because of her race, she would automatically vote with the left.

use your free will to say no, i'm not having sex. or put a damn condem on.

Lauren, I couldn't agree with you more. You said it so well. I do have to comment on Jacque. If you want to bring God into this, God created us and we all are a part of God as we have God within us so every decison we make is made WITH God. If you are a believer in God, I personally believe that every decision I make, is WITH God, even if it is to have an abortion. Stop using the fear of God's wrath as a means to force religious morality on people and start using morality based on reason. Having a baby under horrible circumstances will be bad for the mother and baby's future, therefore, you are not doing anything wrong by aborting an unwanted pregnancy. If all of you women out there were raped by a man that was HIV positive or by your father, would you still want to have that baby? Really? Gosh, sign me up for bringing a baby into this world with HIV who is going to probably be an orphan/foster child because, heck, I'm going to die from AIDS now that I've been raped. Oh, and also, by all means, please Mr. Government, let me give birth to my father's baby which I will most likely resent the rest of my life because my father molested me, which of course left me mentally ill and now I get to care for his child which if I were able to think straight, I would give up for adoption anyway. I proabably will screw up both my life and the baby's life because I most likley won't be able to go to college, unless I want to leave my daughter with her grandfather…it's a sad road to go down folks but think about it! I think the unborn baby would be saying, please don't bring me into the world under these circumstances! It's not fair! Lastly, why the hell should I spend my tax dollars taking care of all these unwanted children whose mothers were forced to give birth to them?

It really doesn't matter why she had the abortion, it's her choice. It's sad that there were complications that took her life. You people on here are heartless and show no compassion. I find it odd that you can say, "don't abort" so quickly and with the breath, say, "it's karma, she died" You women on here are hearless bitches!

Wow