Rand Paul Refuses Pat Down, Detained by TSA

Entitled jerk.

it is illegal for anyone, including tsa to hinder a congressman from preforming his duties.

You are a moron. He voted no on the NDAA and has been outspoken against the TSA and pat downs for EVERYONE as they are Un Constitutional. A Sitting member of the Senate cannot be detained-it is in the Constitution-TRY READING it! You are ignorant and the reason America is the way it is today. WAKE UP and GFY!!

If one has nothing to hide why sre they so insistant not to conform to safety measures? Have people in this country really forgotten 9/11? OR are they just soooo worried about being "political" that they are willing to take a chance and have a repeat of that gruesome day? Now days we do not always have to worry about only foreigners attacking us, we have a kot of dissidents right here in this country who are trying to HIDE behind the constitution.

Entirely invasive….if their equipment is not working properly an 8 month old infant can be stripped of its diaper. I am proud to have a senator representing my state that will stand up to government invasion of privacy. We should all be proud of this. It is not a statement of entitlement, it is a non-violent protest of the illegal and unconstitutional procedures. This is a government agency people. If it were airport paid for security that would have been involved in the situation, that takes matters into its own hands for providing "security" this would be acceptable if not encouraged subject and I am sure the senator would have complied if he chose an airport that had this in their rules for boarding but the United States Federal Government has no business to mandate and regulate these situations.

The "Security measures" violate YOUR RIGHTS!! Search without a warrant is NOT legal. If you want to be an idiot and allow YOUR rights to be violated, go right ahead. Take the blinders off. I am tired of people like you, just want to go with the flow and won't stand up for anything! STOP watching CNN and FOX!

If some people don't have the balls to stand up for your liberties, you'll wake up one day without any of them. The sheep in this country don't have the sense to know that…. Remember… those that give up liberty and freedom for safety, deserve neither.

he should set an example for us and submit to the law until such time as the law is changed (if it is).

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

so, what you are saying is that our constitution can go to hell. you are a good sheeple.

If there is an abnormality found, some steps just need to be taken to ensure safety for others. Elitists aren't exempt. If any have to submit to it, all do. Maybe Mr Paul just feels like it should be like so many laws they have passed….it's ok for us commoners, but not for them.

It is not a "law". And if you want to "submit" to anything that is your choice, the example should be exactly what he did. It is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. They continue to do it because YOU are afraid to stand up and just SUBMIT and COMPLY…WAKE UP.

Same people that complain about TSA patdowns would blame them if a plane is taken over by terrorists.

William Wallace I am a combat veteran and 60% dissabled. who the f are you to tell me that im afraid of anything.???

James M. Mieras I am also a veteran idiot-Thats who I am. Use the other 40% and continue the fight! I am tired of this lay back attitude. WAKE UO

it would be like telling Rosa Parks to go to the back of the bus again. We cannot submit to an unjust law because by giving up one ounce of freedom to the government, we are giving them more power and an excuse to take more of our rights away. You give them an inch and they will take a mile. Just because they say something is for our protection does not make it for our own good

James M. Mieras You took an oath-it DOES NOT EXPIRE! I am keeping mine.

May I ask what duties he was performing that he could not take 30 or so minutes to ENSURE the public's safety? STOP hiding BEHIND the constitution. This country has gone down the road to hell since people startws taking their constitutional rights to the extreme! I am not agreeable to everything our government does, (most of the time I'm P.O.'d by the way rhey "work") but there are some rules (laws?) that should be enforced. If that means screening for dangerous things hidden on my body, then so be it! I have nothing to hide. Do you?

The U.S. Constitution actually protects federal lawmakers from detention while they’re on the way to the Capital.

“The Senators and Representatives…shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same….” according to Article I, Section 6.

William Wallace I dont think your a veteran idiot. just a veteran . lighten up on your self.
unless you were calling me an idiot wich would require different sentence structure than what you employed. if you were calling me an idiot it only falls in line with what people like you do. you cant discuss any thing with out calling other people names

Another moron. You have a better chance of being hit by lightning 3x than being a victim of a terrorist act. Stop believing the boogie man stories on Fox and CNN. Do some research. TSA patdown DO NOT prevent potential issues-think about it.

James M. Mieras I do not care what you think. Someone who spends time curling their facial hair cant preach to me about "lightning up" on myself. Go "submit" somewhere else. I find it hard to believe you are a veteran-surrender or "submission" is not usually in our vocabulary. WAKE UP

Ann Carson he asked to be rescaned and not FULL BODY SEARCHED, doesnt seem to unreasonable to me.

(The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States.) (The preceding words in parentheses were modified by the 27th Amendment.) They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

William Wallace your mamma curls my facial hair bitch

Ann Carson it is NEVER hiding behind the constitution. That document is the ONE THING that separates us from the rest of the world. It is what our soldiers die for. It is what our country was founded on. If you call standing up for the constitution "hiding" then you have no understanding of what has made our country stand head and shoulders above the rest of the world. The TSA is an unconstitutional department. If it was simply airport security, run by the airport, it would be one thing, but it is a government agency and therefore is SUPPOSED to be in line with the constitution. Unlawful Search And Seasure! If we do not stand up for our constitutional rights, we will lose them and we might as well be nazi germany.

here is a person that can make a point with out calling any one names ….bravo!

Ann Carson: Oh, and by the way, If you are willing to give up your freedom for security, you will lose both and deserve it!

James M. Mieras Imagine if he just "submitted" like you suggest?

James M. Mieras Thank you. Insulting people is what got us in this mess in the first place. None of us are superior to another, and you can't inform someone, what is the point?

William Wallace Imagine if you could make a state ment or support an argument with out calling people moron ,or idiot, or making comments about thier "facial hair" Some one might actually listen to you.. when when you resort to those methods it negates your opinion.

James M. Mieras That is your opinion, Idiot.

James M. Mieras That is your opinion, Idiot. I am a real veteran and will continue to fight for your rights while you "submit".

William Wallace YOU should read it! Search and Seizure WITHOUT probable cause. But then with your knowledge (or lack thereof) you could not understand that in this case they HAD probable cause. And I suppose you, also, consider 9/11 a "scare". To me and the families of victums of that tragedy it was much more than a scare! Do YOU really want to take that chance? If so, PLEASE go stand near a tree in the next thunderstorm.

William Wallace yes you are a veteran idiot!

Roy Dean I notice you have avoided my 1st sentence question. Please see my comment to the other ignoranamous William Wallace.

Ann Carson: 9/11 was a dark day in our history. Not only did we lose lots of human life, we lost something just as precious. Our Constitution. With the government using the horrible events of 9/11 as a scare tactic, we have lost many of our constitutionally guarenteed rights in the name of security. The TSA has NOT FOILED EVEN ONE TERRORIST PLOT! There is NO evidence to support the continued degradation of our constitution. A few weeks ago, a man got on a plane with a sword cane. 2 weeks ago, a woman got on a plane with a gun. If a terrorist really wanted to smuggle something onto a plane, the TSA could not stop them. The only people the TSA are hurting is the GENERAL TRAVELING PUBLIC! I quoted it before and I will quote it again: If you give up your freedom for safety you will lose both and deserve neirther!

Ann. you deserve everything bad our government is doing to We The People. Enjoy your Police State.

Roy Dean I apologize. I was under the impression that it was RAND PAUL that was detained. I'm not sure of his age, but if he is a minor it would be up to his father to refuse the search. I am aware of Senator Paul's position on the TSA and the article of search and seizure. However, in this instance they DID have PROBABLE CAUSE. To some people, I guess, The Constitution is similar to the Bible. You only read and understand what you want to read. I am not nearly as close to being a conformist as most of you. I do not conform to everything governmental. Most of you obviously conform to the idea that you can do and react to ANYTHING that you please because you can always USE the constitution to justify..

Ann get real. Patting someone down is NOT going to prevent terrorism, that said Ann – so if a government agency read your post and decided WITHOUT due process to enter your purse, house, pat you down as you walked down street or got into your car, which in the case of home grown terrorists would be a weapon of choice, you'd be okay with that?????

Ann Carson perhaps you shoud inform yourself more before posting! They DID not have probable cause, he was boarding an aircraft and asked to be screened again. Your definition of probable cause is way off.

Ann Carson I understand that Rand Paul is a man of libertarian values and an ardent supporter of constitutionalism. I applaud the Senator for taking this stand against what he believes to be an unconstitutional violation of our 4th amendment rights. You may be part of the majority and take no issue with the schemes of the TSA in their conduct of homeland security, but you must recognize and honor the minority who do not accept this clear violation of the constitution. There has to be a better way, many have proposed increasing the presence of explosive ordinance sniffing dogs.

Furthermore, we cannot criticize our politicians and congress for being divided on these issues when, based on the comments on this thread, we are so polarized and divided as a people. Why do people get so fired up about this type of argument? It is fear if you ask me. One side is more afraid of terrorism, the other is more afraid of government. In my opinion, we should fear both.

Ann Carson WOW-You are dumb. What was the "probable cause"??? You need "probable cause" to apply for a search warrant which is what the Constitution says you need…you NEED a WARRANT. In order to obtain a WARRANT you must articulate in an affidavit why a Warrant is being applied for… Probable cause is what POLICE need for an arrest not to search. He was also detained-not free to move about on his own..I guess you believe you are guilty before proven innocent.

Doug Perkins Very well put Doug!

Ann Carson He was on his way to his office to perform duties of which he was elected to perform. So far the only ignoramous I can see her is you. Do you even know who Rand Paul is???? he is a Senator! But as your facebook profile says : I'M OLD…but FILLED with it and FULL of it!!! What more can I say?? There you go everyone. We can stop trying to reason with her.

Gail Finnell of course not.If that scenerio started, I would be at the head of protesters! The TSA is NOT that situation. But thank you for making my point. There will always be people that take what they believe to the extreme. Should we allow those people that believe in Al Queda beliefs to board aircraft unchecked? May I point out that some of those people are American citizens? I am not saying that Senator Rand is one of those people, but what if? Do you really want to take that risk? I am 65 years of age and I have taken many, many risks but that is one risk I'm not willing to take.

Ann Carson and you are a dummy.

Ann Carson Keep watching Fox and believe in the Boogie man…at 65, you should expand your thought process and find out what is really going on. Use the internet to expand your knowledge. AlQueda boarding planes?? Why wasnt Osama Bin Laden listed as a "Most Wanted" on the terrorist list for 9/11?

Ann Carson Read the Constitution.

Doug Perkins .. I am in fear for this country. I will concede to some of your points. There could be a better solution. Right now the TSA is all we have and going against it will NOT protect us. Instead of "protesting" and complaining, Elect a representative that truly believes the way you do. In my opinion there are no such politicians. Most of them say what you want to hear then once elected they "conform" to what is most popular among their peers and pays the most!

Ann Carson Actually, Ann, I hate to burst your bubble, but the TSA is exactly "That Situation" Google "TSA Abuse" or "TSA unconstitutional search and seasure" or "TSA Everywhere" And I think you might see that the idea of our government going through your purse, car, home, or doing anything they want without due proccess "in the name of national security" is happening already. When the armed soldier asks you for your papers, remember this conversation, because it is going to happen to you.

Ann Carson I flew out of Heathrow airport in the UK just a few months after the Lockerbie Bombing. They had ample security screening positions BUT never once was I touched. They used scanners and if one broke down they sent you to another line. The TSA is a joke, if you will remember the 9/11 terrorists used the planes themselves as the BOMB. So in truth if you want to be really safe then we should do away with air travel all together. BUT common sense has escaped this nation as a whole. We take a risk every day we breathe air. To run around like chicken little screaming the sky is falling and putting in place something that has no chance of ever actually working just to make one feel better about life means that the terrorists have scored a point against the American public, by having our freedoms infringed upon. I know all too well about home grown terrorists/American citizens, DO NOT FORGET the Oklahoma City Bombing done with a rental truck and home made fertilizer bomb. My point is NO matter what check points one puts in place someone will figure away around it. The more we cower down to the thought of terrorism the terrorists win. I would gladly take the risk that the person sitting next to me on a plane might be a terrorist, because I have faith that there are people who do their jobs everyday to prevent such things from happening, but it is not the TSA.

William Wallace I can tell by your use of grammar that you are not well educated. That is ok. Perhaps you did not have that choice. However, you really should study how to express yourself more than calling two people A dummy (implying that we are just one). You should have said "You and Ann Carson are dummies." For another grammer and English class tune in to Wikipedia, the dictionary, or search ASK.com for a good school in your area.

William Wallace "Moron"? Did I say anything about the likelihood of a terrorist taking down another airliner? Did I even say if I was for or against TSA patdowns? No, I didn't. Some people merely want to complain about the government if they intrude in their lives and complain if they don't take care of them.

And by the way Mr. Statistics, what were the odds that terrorists could take control of three flights the same morning?

William Wallace why are you so angry? Why can't you make a point without calling someone names? People like you are the biggest part of the problems we have in this country.

Gail Finnell I am a blonde, so please excuse my ignorance, could you please tell me exactly where your faith lies? Have I missed something regarding airport security? I don't believe being careful is like chicken little. Why do you wear a seat belt in a car? Surely not for safety. 40 years ago we had no seat belts and people were killed in auto accidents. The mandatory use of seat belts was required by our government. Yes, we still have auto related deaths, but considering the increase in number of cars today, deaths have decreased. Don't you see that the government took away our right to decide how to live our lives? I mean really, if we choose to take the risk, who is our government to tell us any different? Do you honestly believe there should not be rules?

Roy Dean .. I have used the internet to gain knowledge. Could you please name a few companies, corporations, and/or professions that does not have a few "bad apples"? They exist in other places too. For instance, Congress, the House, All Departments, and even The White House! The media has only reported the bad and the ugly. Very rarely do they report the "good". So, could it be possible that the TSA is a necessary evil until a better way to insure our safety comes along?

James M. Mieras You should be ashamed that the country you fought for has allowed an agency to come in and violate the constitutional rights which you fought and became 60% disabled to protect.

He is setting an example by NOT submitting.

TrueBliu Nineleven sorry i can not bring my self to be ashamed of my country. im kind of a my country right or wrong kind of a guy. i do however become less than enamored with the government on occasion.

James M. Mieras Cop out-another form of "submission".

William Wallace take your pill billie

Yes, do as they say, the bill of rights isn't important anyways.

Chris Moses Four flights, you mean. And I, for one, would blame terrorists for taking over a plane if terrorists take over a plane. The security restrictions of the TSA have become excessive in the extreme.

Chris Moses Do some research. Same odds as the first time-ZERO. Look at the big picture. I bet you belive the NDAA is good or you do not even know how it affects you.

James M. Mieras No pills or checks for me..60% allegedly disabled and riding a motorcycle across the country..? Come on, must be the submission/defeated attitude you have..you were probably section 8.

Ann Carson no there should be rules, but using a seat belt as an example is a poor one. No one is standing at my car when I leave for work. PLUS it is my decision to put one on or not. The government did not take away my right to choose in this instance. They told me that I must wear one or face a fine for which a police officer, a person sworn to uphold the law, must catch me doing. The TSA infringes upon my right to privacy and my right against unwanted searches and seizures when they touch me or any other person when they deem it necessary WITHOUT probable cause. From reading other posts I know you don't get probable cause. Being patted down by the TSA is akin to the police department coming into your home, place of work, stopping you as you walk down the street, enter a building and patting you down touching you violating your rights, without a search warrant. There is a reason that they must go before a judge to show that they have probable cause in order to obtain said warrant. That being said if the TSA were required to operate in the same manner, I doubt anyone here would have a problem with their activities. As others have said before it is a slippery slope once we allow something as seemingly innocuous as the TSA to loophole our civil liberties. That is the argument that most people have been making. Do you not see it, we are not hiding behind the constitution nor do we want any terrorist activity to occur. We want a program that actually accomplishes something other than wasting our money blowing smoke up our butts to have the illusion that we are safe. To answer your question of faith – my faith lies with the men and women in our FBI/CIA/Homeland Security/Border Guards/ our Military branches and other agencies who have taken an oath and have been properly trained to look for, hunt down and detain those that seek to do America harm. Just not the $10 (or whatever they pay) an hour worker hired by the TSA or airport facilities. Oh one last thing. Putting something in place that does not work, but makes people feel better is a lot like chicken little running around saying the sky is falling. Similarity: Neither one does one iota of good for the public and both create a false sense of reality/security. How many terrorists has the TSA stopped? None How many times did the sky actually fall in the chicken little stories? None but the moral of the tale of Chicken Little is, depending on which ending you read : to have courage and the other is not to believe everything you hear or read. Either way in Chicken Little once the acorn fell on his head he ran to the king and they decided that everyone should wear a helmet. The TSA is our helmet, get it now?

Ann Carson, Ron Paul for President 2012. Enough said.