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Proposition 8 protest turns nasty, African Americans targeted

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Proposition 8 protests in California have taken a nasty turn, with protesters moving on from targeting the Mormon Church, to blaming African Americans.

Recent reports indicated that African Americans voted 70% yes on Proposition 8. From Rod McCullom via The Huffington Post

A number of Rod 2.0 and Jasmyne Cannick readers report being subjected to taunts, threats and racist abuse at last night’s marriage equality rally in Los Angeles.

Geoffrey, a student at UCLA and regular Rod 2.0 reader, joined the massive protest outside the Temple of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Westwood. Geoffrey was called the n-word at least twice.

It was like being at a klan rally except the klansmen were wearing Abercrombie polos and Birkenstocks. YOU NIGGER, one man shouted at men. If your people want to call me a FAGGOT, I will call you a nigger. Someone else said same thing to me on the next block near the temple…me and my friend were walking, he is also gay but Korean, and a young WeHo clone said after last night the niggers better not come to West Hollywood if they knew what was BEST for them.

Los Angeles resident and Rod 2.0 reader A. Ronald says he and his boyfriend, who are both black, were carrying NO ON PROP 8 signs and still subjected to racial abuse.

Three older men accosted my friend and shouted, “Black people did this, I hope you people are happy!” A young lesbian couple with mohawks and Obama buttons joined the shouting and said there were “very disappointed with black people” and “how could we” after the Obama victory. This was stupid for them to single us out because we were carrying those blue NO ON PROP 8 signs! I pointed that out and the one of the older men said it didn’t matter because “most black people hated gays” and he was “wrong” to think we had compassion. That was the most insulting thing I had ever heard. I guess he never thought we were gay.

While we may be able to sympathize with the cause of the protesters, resorting to racism is a step way too far, and may cause some to distance themselves from the anti-Proposition 8 campaign.

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16 Responses to “Proposition 8 protest turns nasty, African Americans targeted”

  1. Boyden

    First place, you have taken the original article out of context.

    Second place, you have completely illustrated the problem with the white based institution. The white based institution has pivoted each minority against one another. Without standing together, minorities will never be able to receive equality.

    Gays have to reach out to minorities. Right now they are reacting to an easy target, which has been the target of many Republicans as well. It's stupid. Gays need to take a step back and examine themselves.

    Successful ways of protesting would be to perform mock weddings outside of the churches. Design comics that they can hand to the children exiting the churches showing that their parents voted for hate and to teach the word of God to them (“Do unto others”). Gays need to redefine discrimination in terms of what blacks went through during the 60s and 70s. Right now, the forefront of the argument is too diluted. Once the fundamental hate that is being displayed in put in terms of racism, then things will start to change.

    It was such a simple majority, that this shouldn't take long to overturn as long as Gays are willing to step back and stop the initial reaction.

  2. Ms Zee

    This is sad and dangerous, for all. I can tell you that the vote was not based on hatred or bigotry for homosexuals or lesbians, but for our love and belief of an almighty God that we believe created this universe and has the right to tell us what He created us for………………….To start calling people niggers and threatening the Africa American community is dangerous. I beg you PLEASE do NOT venture up this road,because once this is unleased it will be hard to put it back in. I know you are angry and hurt by the decision, but the People have voted and for now that's the way it is.

  3. pji

    Ms. Zee – Why does it always turn to religion? In a country where there SHOULD be a clear separation of church and state, religion should have no effect on law.

    I am against prop 8 but the state voted to enact it. That is what the majority wanted. If you don't like it, you'll have to get another prop together to fight it and vote again. Violence and protesting in this case is stupid and futile as it wasn't forced upon California by a judge or politician.

    The whole country should work this way. Don't like abortion, capital punishment, declaration of war, etc. let the people vote.

  4. jefeinCA

    I am not surprised. It is human nature to attack the person, any person, you feel is denying you what you want. It is childish and will cause a breach between communities. I Mormons, African Americans, Jews, Christians of all stripes, and even Muslims, went to the polls and voted their conscience. If a group, any group, cannot understand it, and is incapable of articulating why they believe theirs is the just cause, beyond racial grunts and expletives. Then perhaps theirs is the less just cause in a democracy.

  5. Mary F

    The Prop 8 campaign was never about civil rights, same sex marriage is not a civil right, but a choice. Same sex couples are not born gay and we all know there are no scientific facts to claim otherwise. Prop 8 however, is a moral issue and of course you will find all religions that base their morals around the bible and scriptures will support this proposition. How ignorant do No on Prop 8 think we are? How sad that 48 percent of California's dont understand this fundalmental values of our society, that the human race is about the family. A mother and a father who love each other and want to bring children into this world. That is about the human race. Yes, over 70% of our black brothers and sisters voted YES on Prop 8 because they believe as I believe that marriage is a fundalmental institution of the society of the human race.

  6. keith

    So, since 52% voted against your hopes in the Prop 8 ballot…do we now expect the Republicans to protest at the White House because only 52% of the (popular) votes went for Obama? I have no personal implications on the passing or failing of the Prop in CA and am no more a McCain supporter than that of Obama. (I didn't care for either one frankly.) I simply point out that whether it is something you like or not…whether it is something that passes in a simple or an overwhelmingly majority – face the fact: We live in the greatest country in the world where democracy reigns. Obama won and so it goes for the Prop 8 issue as well. Get over it and move on. You look quite silly.

  7. JohnMcDonald

    Its not just the “white based institution” its a problem with unchecked majorities everywhere and the temptation to blame the “other.” Go back far enough just in this country and you'll find that other white groups like Catholic Irish and Polish were treated very much as second class citizens – denied jobs, subjected to racial slurs, etc… These days we are less likely to get that extreme over skin color / cultural heritage and we're starting to turn on beliefs and lifestyles instead.

    The sad part is, as you have stated, that many times these groups don't appreciate that they can prevent other groups from going through the same kind of harassment they endured – and you end up with these heated conflicts that end up being hurtful both physically and psychologically.

    OK, other than trying to deflect some white-guilt I agree with everything else you've said here. There are creative ways to protest this without making more enemies but when you're really angry and hurt it can be hard to think that clearly.

  8. ann

    homesexuales are mad and they want to blam otheirs and they want to distory marraige what is always been about. A man and women coming together as one. I look at homesexuales as a cult they want to push their stuff onto people and they don”t care if people like it or not. I look at this little children having their tamtrumes until they get what they want. They don”t care about peoples faith or how people been raise up. They willing to blame the chruches or blame any race or they take words and try to twist the meaning like diversity this word has nothing to deal with them. Or they compare Roas Parks story to their story what disgrace. They are even taking the word interracial or try to compare this to homesexuales life. This is sick and wrong. God did not make people gay have a choice and they dicide this because of bad past. Why are they forcing this stuff onto people and on the people who have faith in god and they even want to even teach our kids in school about this to. Look at that charter school who idea was to go to that homesexuale wedding for a feild trip I am sicken about who ever aprove this act I don”t care if the parents agree to this field trip and children are very smart then you all can think 2 grade shame on this act.
    Yes on 8 marriage has and always been for a man and a women to come together as one

  9. Tony B

    The irony of people protesting in the name of tolerance failing to show tolerance towards others is amazing. However, this should be a lesson to everyone, that those who often preach one thing very loudly are actually guilty of behaving in the opposite manner. I'm sure these same people rejoiced in the downfall of Christian hypocrites like Jim Baker, Robert Tilton and Jimmy Swaggert, yet they fail to realize they are equally hypocritical, just on the opposite side of the fence.

    Regarding Proposition 8, it is simply defining what marriage is, which according to the people of California is a union between one man and one woman. It does not infringe on anyone's personal rights to live together, to have civil unions, and to live their lives as they want. It only defines marriage, which for five thousand years been a religious institution anyway. I saw video today of protesters stomping on a Christian cross, so it makes no sense to me that people who care so little for religion would want to participate in a religious institution. If you want to live in a secular world, then get a civil union and do so.

  10. CB

    Ugly.

    Blacks and gays should be on the same side. Don't let the Mormon slavemasters pit us against each other. It's the oldest trick in the slavery handbook.

  11. jhon

    This is what bigotry and injustice causes. Buckle up people. It's only gonna get worse until equality is a reality. Religion has caused this. Christians are an abomination.

  12. jj

    Yes, That is a good idea. Lets get rid of christianity and force equality then we could all be one big happy family. Jhon, you are a very smart and tolerant person with good ideas.

  13. Graymalkin

    The majority of voters in California exercised their right in a democratic process and voted no to gay marriage. The liberal 9th Circuit OVERTURNED the vote (essentially giving the middle finger to the majority of people and democracy). Again, the majority voted. Again, they said no to gay marriage. And, again, the liberals – – who evidently only “thank the constitution,” proclaim “the people have spoken!” and announce “that's democracy in action!” only when things go THEIR way – – resort to protests and boycotts.
    Yet, realistically, who are indeed the “haters”? I say it is the minority who sought to redefine marriage, bypassing the People. Then overturning the voice of the People. They clearly HATE the majority, the democratic process, and the Constitution.
    Look, nearly half of the American public is less than happy over Obama being elected. Yet, we accept it, and try to deal with it.
    Maybe you folks should do the same. You attempted to force your opinions upon the majority, and the majority opposed you.
    No happy about the way a vote went? JOIN THE CLUB!
    Now, deal with it.

  14. David McMillan

    Here's the truth; it may hurt: Many white gays are racist! Remember how many Log Cabin Conservatives gave Bush a 2nd term. Gays like to compare their plight to the Civil Rights Movement and note that the Bible was wrong about Slavery too. But America had “Chattel Slavery”; people were treated like animals. The Bible does not promote Chattel Slavery. These arguments are insulting coming when they come from the most privileged members in our society, MANY of whom say they are Gay when it suits them, but pretend not to be if they have something to gain from being closeted, such as a new job, country club membership, Fraternity. White gays can have as much gay sex and never admit it, b/c they want look like mainstream good ole boys. Gay police officers sodomize black and Hispanic youth all the time; ask Abner Lawema & Mike Mineo. Before the 1960s, gay clubs [in the South] were Segregated…for Whites ONLY. Slave masters raped black girls, but also black boys. Know your history! And now white gays want to adopt little black boys, I say HELL NO…adopt white boys instead, NOT blk impressionable youth. Gays targeted the Episcopal Church for inclusion of sexually-active gay priests. They targeted the Episcopal Church NOT b/c of faith, but b/c they perceived it a CLASSY and tasteful church. Notice they have not targeted working-class denominations like the Southern Baptist, Evangelical etc. HOW shallow. But this makes sense b/c if a group categorizes itself as a minority based on what TYPE of person they are attracted to, that group is shallow by definition. White gays have a rich history of racism. Hopefully blacks will wake up and realize this truth.