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Newtown Truthers Harassing And Threatening Sandy Hook Hero Gene Rosen

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Newtown truthers (conspiracy theorists who posit the Sandy Hook shooting was a hoax perpetrated by a shadowy government cabal for unknown reasons) have been bleating their tales of intrigue across the web, alleging a team of “crisis actors” including Gene Rosen are responsible in part for the alleged “coverup” in the massacre.

Almost immediately after the incident, the Newtown conspiracy allegations began, with many of the web’s most paranoid citizens joining the Sandy Hook truther movement and making weighty allegations — such as the one about Newtown parents faking grief because they displayed a range of emotions in the aftermath of the intense shock of the murders. (We have explored the Newtown conspiracy movement in previous posts about the controversy overall as well as the Batman related “theories” that mention Sandy Hook.)

Now Gene Rosen, the Newtown resident who took six terrified children into their home, fed them cookies and juice, and cried for what he witnessed, has been victimized by many of the Newtown conspiracy theorists — enduring harassment detailed in a piece on Salon as the Sandy Hook truthers gain momentum on the web.

Reading of Gene Rosen’s plight after Newtown is certainly depressing — the article quotes the 69-year-old as he describes how photos of his home have been posted online, impostors have attempted to malign him on social networks, and anti-semites on white supremacy boards have mocked the “emotional Jewish guy.” An email quoted in the piece masqueraded as business-related but then went on to allege:

“How are all those little students doing? You know, the ones that showed up at your house after the ‘shooting’. What is the going rate for getting involved in a gov’t sponsored hoax anyway?”

Rosen, who himself is probably dealing with the traumatic aftermath of not only the shooting but discovering six shell-shocked first-graders in his driveway, explains:

“I don’t know what to do … I’m getting hang up calls, I’m getting some calls, I’m getting emails with, not direct threats, but accusations that I’m lying, that I’m a crisis actor, ‘how much am I being paid?’”

Harrowing Pictures Of Grieving Families In Newton, Connecticut, Have Been Released Following The Sandy Hook Elementary School Outrage

Rosen adds that the Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists have harassed him to the point where the “quantity of the material is overwhelming.” Perhaps what is saddest about the behavior of Newtown truthers and their effect on Rosen’s life after the killings is the way he feels — frightened and angry about the threats on top of the awful thing he experienced in his own home.

In the piece, he expresses some measure of regret for initially speaking out after the Sandy Hook shooting, saying:

“I wanted to speak about the bravery of the children, and it kind of helped me work through this … I guess I kind of opened myself up to this … Here’s my fear: If I start talking like this, will one of these Truthers read this and will it embolden them? Will they say, screw that guy, how dare he impugne our credibility or question our intellect, I’m going to go one step farther? Am I being stupid?”

But alongside his uncertainty, Rosen also feels a lot of anger at those who have accused the families of the dead of lying in their time of grief — “choking back tears,” he laments:

“There must be someway to morally shame these people, because there were twenty dead children lying an eighth of a mile from my window all night long … And I sat there with my wife, because they couldn’t take the bodies out that night so the medical examiner could come. And I thought of an expression, that this ‘adds insult to injury,’ but that’s a stupid expression, because this is not an injury, this is an abomination.”

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After describing an incident involving a Newtown truther at a restaurant recently in which he came close to confronting someone, he admits:

” … it tells me how rageful I am. And I am rageful about it, both for the children and for the mother of the child who came to my house looking for her son and I wanted to look at this guy and I wanted to just f***ing decimate him. That’s my rage.”

While the Newtown truthers and Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists have made Rosen’s life difficult, however, he also says many have thanked him for his service that day.

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94 Responses to “Newtown Truthers Harassing And Threatening Sandy Hook Hero Gene Rosen”

  1. Holden Dometrius

    I'm not threatening or harassing him, but this guy's lying. Just watch his interview, it's obvious. Or you could just classify me as a conspiracy theorist and continue along in blissful ignorance…

  2. Kim LaCapria

    Holden Dometrius On what training or expertise can you say with certainty this man is not telling the truth? What is he lying about? Don't you think police would have confirmed his lie if he was indeed lying?

    In order for your assertion to be correct, the police would have to be in on it- suggesting a conspiracy of massive scale and involvement, one that would be impossible to pull off and with no endgame.

    This kind of statement isn't only an insult to this poor man, who had to see all this first hand, but to the parents of the victims. It's really, really not cool.

  3. Chris Vogel

    In my observation, "truthers" are both conservative and religious, so that cheap, malicious, self-indulgent fabrication is their normal response to everything.

  4. Jeffery McDonald

    I mean, if you watch two interviews this guy gave, you will see a handful of inconsistencies. Even the two stories he told of how the kids even ended up at his house are completely contradictory.

  5. Kristen Richardson

    So is the Bible, Jeffery – it can't even agree about the birth of Jesus. In the aftermath of a shock like that, it is actually quite normal for people to focus on different aspects of the story at different times. Cops are used to it. Deal with it.

  6. Parttime Scientist

    During acute stress events, the brain produces catecholamines (adrenaline) which suppress activity in areas at the front of the brain concerned with short-term memory, concentration, inhibition, and rational thought. This is the "Fight or Flight" reaction. Among other things, your eyes dilate, you get tunnel vision and your hearing becomes "selective" to danger. It actually makes perfect sense.

  7. Gary Peltzer

    this is got to be the sickest story out there right now. What has our country come to? I live in Ct and trust me you "truthers" are really sickos and I can't think of one sane reason you would do this.

  8. Holden Dometrius

    The reason I think he's lying is because he said that a bus dropped six kids off at his house in the midst of a massacre. I don't believe any buses were running at the time.

  9. Michael Brown

    How about the actor's that were doing interviews..the phelps, they r really another family do some dam reaserch yourself, or did you also believe that our taxes were not going to go up as well. "we ask that the rich pay a bit more" we all are.

  10. Holden Dometrius

    "In order for your assertion to be correct, the police would have to be in on it- suggesting a conspiracy of massive scale and involvement" No. That's not what I said. I believe he's lying, not that he's a government paid actor as some do. I'm 16, and his story didn't make sense to me, and many others as it turns out. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, or "troll". If you can explain how those 6 children escaped a classroom where everyone else died, came to be in the custody of a school bus driver, then got dropped off at this guy's house where they stayed for two hours then I will accept your accusation that I am "not cool".

  11. Brandon Simmons

    I was a police officer for 3 years! Never have I seen a operation plan work like that. There wod of been abulance and people running frantic. This is sad. I have need watched a 9-11 video or the bombing in London. My wife convinced me to watch this. The only reason I did was because the first day all the evidence that was confirmed was retracted and new was given. It does not work that way.

  12. Kim LaCapria

    Holden Dometrius, you sound like a very intelligent kid and I am not trying to disrespect you.

    I have been writing about this since day one. Nowhere does anyone mention a bus. Is it possible the bus driver, 30 minutes after school started, was still lingering outside when the kids fled and fled with them, not knowing where to flee to, ending up outside Rosen's house?

    Is it possible the bus driver lived near Rosen and found the kids outside as they wandered?

    Is it possible these were the surviving hidden kids from Vicki Soto's class, not the ones that were shot? Is it possible they eventually fled before police arrived and met the bus driver then Rosen?

    Which is more farfetched? That one of these scenarios happened, or that the government engaged in this massive and murderous subterfuge .. to what end? And those who carried out the alleged atrocity never encountered a single soul who objected or leaked the plot to a husband or wife?

    Barring that, why else would Gene Rosen lie even if his story has holes due to perhaps the trauma of the shooting? In order for him to be lying for a fishy reason, surely there would be an impetus. What would that be?

  13. Kim LaCapria

    Holden Dometrius We do know that one classroom was killed entirely, and half of Soto's students died. We know that Soto saved the kids by hiding them, but six kids got scared and ran and died.

    That would be how six kids survived while others did not.

  14. Kim LaCapria

    Brandon, it is my belief that the reporting was incomplete because CSP locked the scene down heavily in order to ensure no parent learned their child had died on Twitter or Facebook, conceivable in a small town, right?

    Can you confirm it is police procedure to inform families face to face? That is correct, right?

    I further believe that in the absence of on-scene confirmations, press reported observations rather than confirmations, information that was reported on by national media not on the scene. Does that sound correct?

    I lastly believe given the newly rapid news cycle, the initial half-bits of info were carried nationally in minutes, creating the appearance of collusion when in fact, all outlets used on-scene sources that did not have complete information.

    Is that plausible?

  15. Linda Sue Vaher Clark

    Joshua Smith, You and your buddies Are Nuts… I am sick of you Truthers and your obscene, irresponsible, insensitive comments and actions that have been labeled on many tragedy's with NewTown, 9/11… How Heartless to these families and the young children and teachers that have died… How disrespectful! Your Day Will Come… What Goes Around Will Come Around and do not look for sympathy from us. Also Chris Vogel, how Wrong You Are. I Am A Conservative and a Christian And Many Who Lost someone are, and You have Labeled us incorrectly… Truthers are in a league of their own, so get it straight… You need to apologize!

  16. Linda Sue Vaher Clark

    Gene Rosen, You Were a Blessing to these children and families. Know that these truthers, which they are Not, have No Concept of compassion, truth or reality. May Our Lord Jesus Bless You for being there when they needed someone they could trust in their time of need. I can only imagine how relieved those parents must have been in their terror.

  17. Linda Sue Vaher Clark

    Holden Dometrius and whoever. How nieve you truthers are. How can it be a lie, when there evidence along with the children and parents at his house. Really? You guys are Nuts! I suppose everthing is spot on with everything you say including recollection. You truthers disgust me. Go find people who care, Not many!

  18. Linda Sue Vaher Clark

    ….. Posting by "Holden Dometrius · Teaching Assistant at Drake-Bennett Summer Schools.
    "In order for your assertion to be correct, the police would have to be in on it- suggesting a conspiracy of massive scale and involvement" No. That's not what I said. I believe he's lying, not that he's a government paid actor as some do. I'm 16, and his story didn't make sense to me, and many others as it turns out. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, or "troll". If you can explain how those 6 children escaped a classroom where everyone else died, came to be in the custody of a school bus driver, then got dropped off at this guy's house where they stayed for two hours then I will accept your accusation that I am "not cool". · 5 hours ago"… Do You Know what a Miracle is? They are all around us and most times unexplainable. And there is proof all around us and in the news, but truthers are just doubters and nothing more than attention seekers… You cannot explain away everthing around you. If you think they can then you are ignorant. You are 16 and a teaching assistant? Really? Hmmm.

  19. Linda Sue Vaher Clark

    Matt Roth. You think millions of people watch a you tube video is just to question its authenticity? How bogus! I like many people want to view time and again certain videos or stories just to relive the moment, the tragedy and the care of some, the miracle, etc. So all the viewed videos, stories in life whether shared by someone verbally or on TV, like the Hindenberg, Titanic, Rescues, people sharing their remarkable stories and so one on, are lacking in authenticity because people watch them and add to the view numbers and it is a negative? Really? You have no clue.

  20. John Kneeland

    Statement from Crisis Actors

    January 14, 2013

    "We are outraged by Florida Atlantic University Professor James Tracy's deliberate promotion of rumor and innuendo to link Crisis Actors to the Sandy Hook shootings of December 14, 2012. We do not engage our actors in any real-world crisis events, and none of our performances may be presented at any time as a real-world event." -crisisactors.org http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2262570/Sandy-Hook-conspiracy-professor-James-Tracy-NOW-concedes-people-undoubtedly-died.html Anyone can doctor a video, including the little creep that made this one. Not sure if Joshua Smith is more ugly then he is stupid, or vice versa. I can't decide.

  21. John Kneeland

    Yes. The reason is that there are three million half-wits like you out there who don't know a doctored video when they see one.

  22. Ingrid Salazar

    WHO IS THIS MAN APOLOGIZING TOO!!! ARE YOU A THUTHER?? I THINK YOU HAVE LOST SITE OF YOUR COMMENTS, THEY MAKE NO SENSE…

  23. Anonymous

    The internet in general, but especially forums like this one, give a voice to people who should not , or otherwise, would not be heard. It is sensationalism at it's absolute worst. We, as a people need to learn to stop reacting to things like this, as it only gives them the appearance of legitimacy. These people are crazy extremists, with too way much time on their hands.

  24. Brittany Dunbar Waldon

    He works for a summer school. Sounding like a very smart young man, I'm sure he could be employed as an assistant, as one would be employed as a tutor.
    Get off your high horse and stop personally attacking people! If you want to believe all the garbage that if fed to you via the news, that is your right. But you are no better than anyone else so take your self riotous bigotry down a few notches.

  25. Don Maywald

    Sad thing is most of the people who claim it is a hoax wouldn't beleive it even if they saw it for themselves or the bodies of the children who were killed. Of course question the situation but there is only so much rhetoric we can stand. What would be the reason for such an act, and if you say gun control you have your own agenda and are not credible.

  26. Anonymous

    The internet in general, but especially forums like this one, give a voice to people who should not , or otherwise, would not be heard. It is sensationalism at it's absolute worst. We, as a people need to learn to stop reacting to things like this, as it only gives them the appearance of legitimacy. These people are crazy extremists, with way too much time on their hands.

  27. Benjamin Rodkin

    Conspiracy theorists always think its either done by the US gov't or "the Jews". Same broken record.

  28. Benjamin Rodkin

    Not fair. 9/11 "Truthers" as well as the Norway massacre "truthers" are often secular far-leftists who tend to pin any and all tragedy on some combo of the US gov't and "Zionists". But yes, they have essentially the same intellectual capacity as religious nuts.

  29. Casey Fleming

    I used to be a republican. Now I know that both sides Rep and Dems are both equally as evil and working for the same master. I have found though that the dems are stupid, lazy and easily lead.

  30. Pad Dar

    Benjamin Rodkin Im a JOO and I believe this is all fake. Why not go look for yourself, most Jews have brains. Looks like you're batting a thousand in brainless.

  31. Gavin Riegel

    Holden Dometrius I'll insult you. You seem like an annoying little shit who has no idea what the real world entails. I'll be damned If I'm going to give you're bull shit argument any validity. We all watched that stupid video and its snarky first year of college tone to it. You managed to eat it up without even questioning its intent. I bet you're another one of those asshats who watched "loose change" and went around bitching to people about how "misinformed" they are… Our government cant even keep a blow job in the oval office under raps, yet they hatched this master plan of murdering 20 children and not one reliable person comes out about it? Now go back to sitting by yourself at the lunch table, because I'm sure with that attitude every one thinks you're an asshole.. well I do.

  32. Pad Dar

    Why not ask this question: Why did Victoria Soro have a RIP facebook page FOUR days before the incident took place?

  33. Pad Dar

    Aaron Owens How do you know the govt WASNT involved? Just because they are not Repubs?? Baahhhh bahhhhh

  34. Pad Dar

    Yeah, everyone is a sicko that does not agree with you. Stalinite.

  35. Gavin Riegel

    You people are fucking retarded if you believe this is a "conspiracy". You all watched a 30 minute video and now you're all fucking experts. Grow the fuck up and stop trying to "out smart" people who don't even bother with the stupidity of your "arguments".

  36. Kim LaCapria

    Pad Dar You can start a page and change the name of the page, so the date of the page creation may not match the event.

    No one knows who started that page, and it was likely someone who runs many pages, and repurposed an existing page in order to get likes after the shooting.

  37. Kara Lingenfelter

    Pad Dar No, anyone is a sicko who would be so callous and idiotic as to continue to bring pain to families mourning the loss of their children. It's not bad enough that they had to bury their babies, but now they have to listen to people like you saying it was all a lie? I wish there were a way to shield them from people like you and your kind. The last thing they need is to be put under microscopes and be harassed because they're not grieving and behaving in the way YOU think they should. I live in CT, too. This happened and these people are still living a nightmare… and you choose to make it WORSE for them?? That is not just sick. It's repulsive and I find all you "truthers" to be some of the most vile humans I've ever had the misfortune of coming across.

  38. Jim McKeever

    Gary, you're right, it's these same sickos who want unrestricted access to any and all weapons they want because they're all so paranoid, want to default on our debt, think Obama is a muslim socialist not born here, etc. They're really embarrassing our country, they're living centuries ago, they're just like the Taliban, but they don't realize it. But this is the sickest thing yet!

  39. Katie Dalton

    Pad Dar has a long history of posting stuff like what she posted here.Isn't that right, BSJ? Topic? It's sick that they are harassing Gene Rosen.

  40. Scott Crawford

    Headline reads : Newtown Truthers Harassing And THREATENING Sandy Hook Hero Gene Rosen. Yet they quote him as saying "“I don’t know what to do … I’m getting hang up calls, I’m getting some calls, I’m getting emails with, NOT DIRECT THREATS, but accusations that I’m lying"….

    Here it is in Black and White. The Media Lies.

    Do you even read more than just the headlines before posting or even forming an opinion?

  41. Jim McKeever

    Pad I've known Gary over forty years–he's no Stalinite–but you definitely need psychiatric help or something-just trying to help you; I looked at your facebook page and it's frightening

  42. Debbie Best

    Actually, Kim, Mr. Rosen himself mentioned the bus driver in earlier interviews. Perhaps you should go back and watch all of his interviews and see for yourself. You raise very good questions. And I agree that a government conspiracy is pretty far fetched. But it's not unusual at all for someone to insert themselves into a news story as a "hero". It would be nice if the parents of these children and the bus driver would simply come forward and thank Mr. Rosen publicly.

  43. Kim LaCapria

    Debbie Best And I myself mentioned the bus DRIVER in my comment. The thing with bus drivers is- you may have to sit down for this- sometimes, they aren't driving the bus. Sometimes they walk or are present in other places, yet are definable by their position in the school as a bus driver, like a school nurse or teacher.

    Bus drivers are bus drivers even when they are not driving a bus. There is no mention of a bus by Rosen. Just a driver.

  44. Anonymous

    I am 110% positive this fake news story ridiculous communist military dictator PROPAGANDA is made up. I have been a top secret FBI Detroit informant for many years and there is one dirty agent supervisor there named Jeff Brown who does illegal PROPAGANDA violating sacred and priceless peace treaties including total and absolute domination of the media like Stalin, Hitler, Noriega, Hussein, Ze Dong, and Jong Il. He specializes in planting fake terrorsm and fake murder news stories all over the world. You would not believe the things that this dirty FBI Detoit supervisor does with infinite amount of your tax dollars and he does not investigate crimes with your tax dollars but uses the tax dollars as his personal bank account and to control our government illegally asa military dictator. I am the one who has been the first to expose this fraudulent dirty ex-SECRET POLICE OFFICER who is investigated by honest federal agencies and police departments all over the United States currently. This Jeff Brown is the one who planted the fake Sandy Hook mass shooting news story and him solely abusing his SECRET POLICE POWER. Keep in mind that one of the main catalyst of the Russian Revolution during World War I was the Czar's abuses with secret police to frame people and frame their livelihood. This Jeff Brown uses warrantless tracking to frame people even when it has been ruled illegal by courts and frames people as well as their livelihood.

  45. Anonymous

    I am 110% positive this fake news story ridiculous communist military dictator PROPAGANDA is made up. I have been a top secret FBI Detroit informant for many years and there is one dirty agent supervisor there named Jeff Brown who does illegal PROPAGANDA violating sacred and priceless peace treaties including total and absolute domination of the media like Stalin, Hitler, Noriega, Hussein, Ze Dong, and Jong Il. He specializes in planting fake terrorsm and fake murder news stories all over the world. You would not believe the things that this dirty FBI Detoit supervisor does with infinite amount of your tax dollars and he does not investigate crimes with your tax dollars but uses the tax dollars as his personal bank account and to control our government illegally asa military dictator. I am the one who has been the first to expose this fraudulent dirty ex-SECRET POLICE OFFICER who is investigated by honest federal agencies and police departments all over the United States currently.

  46. Gary Peltzer

    If you lived up here you would have seen the interviews with the kids who were talked to whom he found..are they lying too at age 6? Get your head straight and quit torturing people who have been through a horror you could never really imagine unless you were here.

  47. Gary Peltzer

    the parents came to get him at his house!! I live here, you Truthers are uneducated and have no knowledge of what you are talkling about. Leave us that poor man alone and for God sake have some decency!!!

  48. Eric Leatherwood

    Please tell me the difference between a holocaust denier and a Newton truther? I can't find any difference.

  49. Eric Leatherwood

    Do you deny the holocaust or pol pot's massacre. What about Stalin's and Mao Zadong's atrocities? Are they also fake? Get a life

  50. Brandon Simmons

    Ok, explain the examiner! Since you know so much from the last episode if csi. The medical examiner does what_____ ok once you figure that out! Now the kids where killed with a long rifle correct examiner. Yes all the children where killed with a long rifle. Next question!

    The police said the long rifle was never used. Well these are question for the police!

    Wrong that is his job.

    Then your buddy here. Doesn't know his ass from his asshole. His ass his mouth.

    Your a little slow so I'm explaining. Tells multiple stories, which make no sense. Then if which I hope you don't, you ever have a child you will understand. If you found six of them you would not just let them play with stuff animals for over 30 mins and not even call police.

    Come on!

  51. Brandon Simmons

    On a side not kim, loose the glasses, catch a tan, color that hair and loose the red lip stick. Not working! But at least your teeth are pretty!

  52. Miriam Bell

    That's adorable Brandon. Kim systematically tears down your argument so you attack her looks. Would you do that to a male writer ? I'm guessing the answer is no. It just kills you to be bettered by a woman.

  53. Victor Guadalupe

    not even close, the truthers type ppl are made up of liberals and conservatives, religious and non-religious. i live in a liberal MAJOR southern city and many here are on the truther's side.

  54. Robynne Wildman Cote

    My friends lost their son in this tragedy. They and their other children are not faking grief – they buried their 7 year old son/brother. Terrible disrespect here…

  55. Robynne Wildman Cote

    Brandon I am not sure what you saw on video…but I can tell you that there were many, many ambulances called to respond, and people were running frantically scared. The funerals I have attended were real.

  56. Robynne Wildman Cote

    Which story do you think is fake – this one where this man is being harassed, or the fact that 26 victims were killed in Newtown, CT?

  57. Kim LaCapria

    Robynne Wildman Cote That's why I've been writing this series, Robynne. I can't even imagine how irresponsible, baseless "theories" like these are adding to hurt. It's bothering me a lot. And I am so sorry for your friend's loss. I sincerely hope they are encountering more compassion than suspicion, and I hate that we even have to worry about that.

  58. Anonymous

    Those criminal Asian racists trying to corrupt our just American government of how conservative, prosperous, and moral it used to be in the 1950's before Jeff Brown the racist Asian mobster started working at the Detroit FBI and made it into secret police communism and PROPAGAND with much more than just Adam Lanza and James Holmes fake terrorism news stories MUCH MUCH MORE PROPAGANDA THAN THAT BUT TOTAL DOMINATION OF EVERY ASPECT OF AMERICAN NEWS MEDIA ON GOVERNMENT TAX PAYER TIME HE IS NOT A POLICE OFFICER BUT THINKS HE IS THE MAO ZE DONG AND KIM JONG IL MILITARY DICTATOR OF THE UNITED STATES. After becoming an FBI informant in Detroit for years and meeting this Asian racist dirty ex-secret police officer Jeff Brown the former supervisor of the Detroit FBI I would only vote the farthest right as possible and I want to form a Golden Dawn (Greece is where this awesome party was first formed) political party of the United States and examine for serious criminality all the Asians immigration applications for fraud and criminality that came here to mooch off what my ancestors built up for hundreds of years because they could not be prosperous or successful in their ancestors' homeland but had to build off what the Europeans made in the United States. Now with these liberals that love to tax people to death and give it to the minorities especially Asians we have to share all that we have with these racist Asians and other racist minorities who just are out to get you and ruin you like this Jeff Brown and his Asian hate crimes against Anglo-Saxons as well as fake terrorism and fake murder news stories (many, not just the fake terrorism news stories of James Holmes, Adam Lanza, Gary John Mikulich, Tucker Cipriano, and Bob Bashara) and have none of that It's a Wonderful Life camaraderie, integrity, intelligence, ingenuity, innovation, morality, and honesty that European Anglo-Saxons have had for thousands of years. Why do you think the dirty ex-secret police officer supervisor Jeff Brown only targets white people for his fake terrorism and fake murder news stories and all the supposed fake actor criminals in these fake terrorism news stories are white Anglo-Saxons which is a hate crime against whites and racism? Nowadays it is a crime to have pride in your European and Anglo-Saxon heritage but blacks can have black power groups, a black power fist in downtown Detroit, and Asians can have all their Asian power groups and all this affirmitive action for Asians and Blacks. If you became an FBI Detroit informant and met the dirty supervisor Jeff Brown and all the Asians he recruits to work there as dirty FBI agents who become like Communist secret police officers like the Khmer Rouge, Mao Ze Dong, and Kim Jong Il, you would realize how evil this affirmitive action racism against whites and Anglo-Saxons is and that these minorities are pure evil and have none of honesty or good deed culture that the Anglo-Saxons have and just use you for money and are out to ruin you. I am detailing you the truthful story of how these fake terrorism news stories, usage of illegal communist secret police in the United States, total and absolute domination of the news media like Ze Dong, Khmer Rouge, and Jong Il, and many other illegal activities on the tax payer dollar came to be as I was an FBI informant and the Detrot FBI office is DIRTY because SOLEY of this dirty Asian secret police officer RECENT IMMIGRANT (his Asian family lied on immigration application to United States and concealed their criminal history).

  59. Anonymous

    those criminal Asian racists trying to corrupt our just American government of how conservative, prosperous, and moral it used to be in the 1950's before Jeff Brown the racist Asian mobster started working at the Detroit FBI and made it into secret police communism and PROPAGAND with much more than just Adam Lanza and James Holmes fake terrorism news stories MUCH MUCH MORE PROPAGANDA THAN THAT BUT TOTAL DOMINATION OF EVERY ASPECT OF AMERICAN NEWS MEDIA ON GOVERNMENT TAX PAYER TIME HE IS NOT A POLICE OFFICER BUT THINKS HE IS THE MAO ZE DONG AND KIM JONG IL MILITARY DICTATOR OF THE UNITED STATES. After becoming an FBI informant in Detroit for years and meeting this Asian racist dirty ex-secret police officer Jeff Brown the former supervisor of the Detroit FBI I would only vote the farthest right as possible and I want to form a Golden Dawn (Greece is where this awesome party was first formed) political party of the United States and examine for serious criminality all the Asians immigration applications for fraud and criminality that came here to mooch off what my ancestors built up for hundreds of years because they could not be prosperous or successful in their ancestors' homeland but had to build off what the Europeans made in the United States. Now with these liberals that love to tax people to death and give it to the minorities especially Asians we have to share all that we have with these racist Asians and other racist minorities who just are out to get you and ruin you like this Jeff Brown and his Asian hate crimes against Anglo-Saxons as well as fake terrorism and fake murder news stories (many, not just the fake terrorism news stories of James Holmes, Adam Lanza, Gary John Mikulich, Tucker Cipriano, and Bob Bashara) and have none of that It's a Wonderful Life camaraderie, integrity, intelligence, ingenuity, innovation, morality, and honesty that European Anglo-Saxons have had for thousands of years.

  60. Anonymous

    Want further proof that I tell the truth? Well after I started finding out all the illegal activities of this dirty ex-secret police officer FBI Detroit supervisor mob boss Jeff Brown I reported the former top head of the Detroit FBI named Andy G. Arena and got him fired. Yes, that was me that reported him and got him fired but it was really all Jeff Brown that was the only one involved in illegal activities and forcing the subordinate agents and his bosses to do these illegal activities through extortions, threats, violence, mob activities, racketeering, murder, trickery, racism, and coercion. Europe hates immigrants and has all these Golden Dawn political parties there to get the foreigner non-Anglo Saxons out of the country and the United States needs that here too as if you become friends with a lot of these people you will find out just how evil these types of minorities are, especially Asians and that they just stab you in the back and only be nice to you because they use you for money and want to see you ruined. The only reason I reported Andy G. Arena was because the FBI Detroit became such a dirty secret police office location that they were concealing this Jeff Brown the dirty ex-secret police officer supervisor's name and badge number so that I could not identify him to report him to the appropriate authorities so his boss the head of the Detroit FBI Andy G. Arena (who allows his name to be made known to the public, unlike this secret police officer who has lots of things to hide this Jeff Brown who does not reveal his name ever so that you can catch him in his illegal activities) had to take the fall because Andy G. Arena allowed this Jeff Brown to do all those illegal activities and Jeff Brown forced all the other agents of the Detroit FBI to allow Jeff Brown to do these illegal activities. I finally found out the true identity and name of Jeff Brown and he has been brought to justice this racist communist secret police officer doing these illegal activities with billions of tax payer dollars with his liberal activist fake propaganda news stories to try to put only Anglo-Saxons whites behind bars through frame ups when they are innocent and cut breaks as well as dismiss criminal records for Asians only. An example of the type of communist liberal garbage that he plants in the media is his 50 SHADES OF GREY propaganda news story COMPLETELY MADE UP to try to make us Anglo-Saxon moral Americans lewd and perverted like these communist butcher murderer dictators Kim Jong Il and Mao Ze Dong were both sexual deviants and raucous womanizers like 50 SHADES OF GREY THE PROPAGANDA OF THE ASIAN FRAME UP COURT RULED ILLEGAL WARRANTLESS TRACKER JEFF BROWN A COMMUNIST. He does this warrantless tracking even after it has been ruled illegal by courts and many of the negative comments towards me on here are from FBI Detroit agents working for Jeff Brown who are wasting YOUR TAX MONEY to do stuff like that and to hide the truth. @BebeWu is obviously just another dirty secret police officer FBI Detroit agent wasting your tax money and not acting like a real local police officer in any way, shape, or form but acting as military dictator immoral 50 SHADES OF GREY communist dictators trying to slander and libel me because these liberals give these government employees so much job protection they think they can just do whatever they want on the job and lollygag and get paid for it and even get paid to comment on news articles. This is what the communists are like and were like.

  61. Anonymous

    I am 110% positive this fake news story ridiculous communist military dictator PROPAGANDA is made up. I have been a top secret FBI Detroit informant for many years and there is one dirty agent supervisor there named Jeff Brown who does illegal PROPAGANDA violating sacred and priceless peace treaties including total and absolute domination of the media like Stalin, Hitler, Noriega, Hussein, Ze Dong, and Jong Il. He specializes in planting fake terrorsm and fake murder news stories all over the world. You would not believe the things that this dirty FBI Detoit supervisor does with infinite amount of your tax dollars and he does not investigate crimes with your tax dollars but uses the tax dollars as his personal bank account and to control our government illegally asa military dictator. I am the one who has been the first to expose this fraudulent dirty ex-SECRET POLICE OFFICER who is investigated by honest federal agencies and police departments all over the United States currently. This Jeff Brown is the one who planted the fake Sandy Hook mass shooting news story and him solely abusing his SECRET POLICE POWER. Keep in mind that one of the main catalyst of the Russian Revolution during World War I was the Czar's abuses with secret police to frame people and frame their livelihood. This Jeff Brown uses warrantless tracking to frame people even when it has been ruled illegal by courts and frames people as well as their livelihood. I am positive this Sandy Hook shooting was made up and I know all the fake terrorism and fake murder news stories done all over the international news media by this dirty secret police officer supervisor at the Detroit FBI named Jeff Brown. He made up the fake Colorado movie theater mass shooting in Aurora, CO about James Holmes and in fact based the character James Holmes about me and my life in an effort to FRAME ME through his secret police activities to make it look like I will do a mass shooting when I am an honest man who has never ever been to a jail ever. That is why he made James Holmes have full academic merit scholarships to college, do prestigious scientific research on government research grants, be quiet and keep to himself, and have this fake paid actor James Holmes be accepted to a prestigious medical school graduate program and then drop out. These are all characeristics of my life and he tried to base this character on me and frame me to try to say that I will do a mass shooting like James Holmes. I did not drop out of my prestigious medical school graduate program, however I just dropped for the semester and in fact I have 6 years to complete my prestigious medical school graduate degree and I chose to delay it for that semester but this Jeff Brown tried to lie and make it look like I dropped out of the medical school graduate program so he made up this James Holmes paid actor (ALL PAID ON MASSIVE MILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF YOUR TAX DOLLARS TALK ABOUT WASTEFUL GOVERNMENT SPENDING!) and had him drop out of his medical school graduate program and made him have an identical life story to mine to frame me to make it look like I will do a mass shooting. This was a dirty ex-secret police officer named Jeff Brown who frame informants or honest citizens that go to the Detroit FBI to report criminals and he did just that to me and has been warrantlessly tracking me wasting billions and millions of your tax dollars for MANY YEARS and framing my entire career and livelihood in an effort to frame me and bully me into a crime. The Sandy Hook shooter is paid actor using massive amounts of your tax dollars (WASTEFUL GOVERNMENT SPENDING!) is also based on my life and he keeps trying to claim that both Adam Lanza and James Holmes were mentally ill because that is another thing he has been trying to frame me for because he wants to make it look like mentally ill people do mass shootings when that is not true and it is DISABILITY DISCRIMINATION AND ETHNIC DISCRIMINATION and in fact I have numerous recent and past doctor's notes verifying that I am not in any way whatsoever mentally ill but he has been trying to frame me for that Jeff Brown and has been claiming that James Holmes and Adam Lanza are mentally ill in an effort to frame me and make it look like I do mass shootings, a serious insult ot mentally ill people or to anyone who has ever taken medicines or visited a psychiatrist. I remember a lot of highly accomplished summa cum laude college graduates were diagnosed with ADD and took adderall and other ADD medicines and that is a serious insult to these highly accomplished people with a mental illness to plant fake murder and fake mass shooting news stories with the sole purpose of making it look like people diagnosed with a mental illness will do a mass shooting. Once again, I am not mentally ill and do not have a mental illness and have many doctor's notes and letters proving that I do not have any sort of mental illness, but it was an attempted frame up on me by this dirty Detroit FBI ex-SECRET POLICE OFFICER supervisor namd Jeff Brown. Another fake terrorist bombing that Jeff Brown this dirty ex-secret police officer did was the fake Gary John Mikulich mentally ill man (another mentally ill bomber trying to frame mentally ill people because he keeps trying to say I am mentally ill in order to frame me when doctor's have clarified me many numerous times as not even in formal documentation and formal letters) bombing the FBI Detroit building in March 2011 to make this Jeff Brown dirty supervisor there look like a false hero and steal more of your civil rights so that he can frame people to get whatever this MILITARY DICTATOR wants to get from our government. The Gary John Mikulich news story fake PROPAGANDA LIKE HITLER, STALIN, HUSSEIN, NORIEGA, ZE DONG, AND JONG IL, was planted in the news media right after I talked to 3 of Jeff Brown's subordinate agents at the Detroit FBI asking me about my red Husky tool bag that I used to do my job as they were trying to frame me for it.

  62. Anonymous

    I only met the Detroit FBI in February 2011 when I went down there to get rewarded for turning in criminals but I have learned with this warrantless tracking stuff YOU SHOULD NEVER risk turning in a criminal to any FBI agency because any dirty agent can abuse the warrantless tracking to frame you and use this warrantless tracking to bully you into a crime over MANY LONG YEARS by framing your livelihood using millions and billions of tax dollars to do so. The Gary John Mikulich red Husky tool bag pipe bomb news story was planted falsely in the news media as HITLER PROPAGANDA right after I left the Detroit FBI that day in March as they questioned me about pipe bombs and my red Husky tool bag and then planted the false bombing on their building to make them look like false heroes and get lofty raises claiming they are always the victims of bombings and murder plots when that is not the case at all and these news stories are made up as HITLER PROPAGANDA. The dirty Detroit FBI ex-secret police officer Jeff Brown lured me down to the Detroit FBI that day in March 2011 about the fake Gary John Mikulich terrorism attack on the Detroit FBI building by letting me think they might possibly use me as a paid informant (these joke no education or degree requiring SECRET POLICE paid undercover informant positions pay at least like $200,000 per year or way more than that and give you other huge perks too) with other big rewards also on a criminal and then this Jeff Brown just harassed and aggravated stalked me and planted all these fake murder and fake terrorism news stories. Other fake murder news stories this dirty HITLER SECRET POLICE OFFICER has planted in the news media include the fake Tucker Cipriano murder news stories to make the harmless substance K2 illegal (I do not approve K2 but I do not like HITLER SECRET POLICE PROPANDA TO MAKE THINGS ILLEGAL) and the fake Bob Bashara murder news story, both major Michigan news stories. This dirty ex-secret police officer has also planted news stories in Time Magazine trying to exonerate Hitler and Himmler and make Himmler (the inventor of the mass genocide of the Holocaust) look like a hero, that is how sick and perverted and grotesque this dirty ex-secret police officer is. I'll give you an example of what I have to go through on a daily basis and how he frames livelihood and attempts to bully you into a crime over years with NO PROBABLE CAUSE AND NO WARRANT which is all against the law. One day my parents purchased a plane ticket for Spirit Airlines. The very next morning he made a huge bag fee on Spirit Airlines to charge my parent extra money to try to bankrupt us and to seriously bankrupt Spirit Airlines and all their investors as anyone who invested in Spirit Airlines was bankrupted as they were the only airlines to do a bag fee just to steal money from me and my family. He does stuff like this all the time, sending me and my parents fake investment schemes, fake stocks designed to tank to steal all your money and life savings, and fake propaganda news stories designed to frame our economy and tank businesses. He is a racist and made up a fake propaganda news story about 5 Hour Energy claiming that it was related to 13 deaths to frame this business man because he is a racist this Jeff Brown and does not like Indian foreigner businessmen but is also jealous of rich people because he does not make much money as a former dirty ex-secret police officer (except for when he taps into the federal tax dollars to reward himself) and thinks he is like Warren Buffet and that he has the right to sabotage any business he wants. That stunk for any investors in 5 Hour Energy with this murderous tyrant making up serious slanderous and libelous fake murer news story for no rhyme nor reason at any moment to damage our economy seriously and cost people jobs.

  63. Anonymous

    If you want more information about just how corrupt the United States government became because they failed to fire and prosecute this dirty ex-secret police officer named Jeff Brown let me know. You would be shocked at what he does in an effort to bully you into a crime over many long years using warrantless tracking all the while framing your and your family's livelihood out of jealousy because he is dirt poor as a dirty ex-secret police officer. You would not believe how corrupt this U.S. government became with Jeff Brown becoming the illegal Noriega Hitler MILITARY DICTATOR of the United States. This ex-dirty secret police officer Jeff Brown has even made fake laws built around framing me and framing my livelihood including making laws that do not have to be passed through Congress or signed by the president. One fake law he made was that students cannot declare bankruptcy on student loans anymore (made falsely in 2011 a few months after I met this dirty ex-secret police officer Jeff Brown but he pretended like it was made years earlier falsely) in an effort to frame my livelihood because I was enrolled in the medical school graduate program. Other fake murder news stories include the fake Bo Xilai murder news story in China (completely fictitious and straining our relations with China and to frame them falsely) and the fake political dissident political asylm news story about Chen Guan-Cheng even involving president Obama and Hilary Clinton tricking them into thinking this Chen Guan-Cheng is a real person when it is not. Jeff Brown knew that I was trying to get politicl asylum to another country based on the corruption I discovered him doing as a dirty secret police officer so he planted this story to make him look good for accepting a fake made up political dissident with a similar lifestyle and life story to myself, this fake character Chen Guan-Cheng. He had him be Asian beause this dirty ex-secret police officer Jeff Brown is a racist Asian involved in the Asian mafia and wanted to glorify only the Asian race and loves Hitler as many Asians were on the side of Hitler including Japan. He had this guy live under house arrest in China because this Jeff Brown started framing my education at graduate school and all my employment and career jobs so I could not work anymore because he would frame it and sabotage it completely so I just stayed at my house all day for many months and it appeared I lived as a victim of this Jeff Brown living under house arrest because of his illegal warrantless tracking frame ups and attempts to bully me into a crime. He also had this Chen Guan-Cheng be "disabled" (blind) because Jeff Brown keeps lying about me trying to say that I am "disabled" with a "mental illness" when I do not have that and wanted to make himself look good by accepting a disabled political dissident into the United States as the miltary dictator here in case I got my political asylum to the country of my choice. I do not know what more proof you need, that is clear and piercing truth about how corrupt this dirty ex-secret police officer mobster Jeff Brown has made the United States into a Hitler-like country. I have been exposing this corruption of the United States to other countries and they do not like the United States anymore with their international propaganda domination of international media and many other serious humanitarian crimes. It is not a democracy but this FBI Detroit dirty secret police supervisor Jeff Brown has emergency military dictatorship power to do whatever he wants and wastes millions and billions to frame people, companies, the stock market, fake propaganda news stories to frame companies, and frame people by trying to bully them into crmes over many long years including framing their careers and livelihoods.
    He routinely sends my wealthy family investment dinner scams hosted by fake "investment experts" in order to lure my wealthy family to invest in fake stocks and investments to seal all their money and bankrupt them with fake investments designed to tank. He hosts these very expensive dinner scams at EXTREMELY fancy restaurants using your tax dollars just to bankrupt my family. I have heard he has done these money stealing and money bankrupting tactics in the past on past prosecutions so that people cannot defend themselves in court when they are innocent so that they have zero money to hire a good lawyer and he can more easily frame them causing wrongful convictions. He also uses undercover agent lawyers to frame people including undercover agent and agent provacateur lawyers to frame innocent people. Yes it is that bad. A fake undercover agent lawyer he uses is dentallawyers(dot)com and this was fake lawyer done to prevent me from making money on a lawsuit regarding my deteriorated gumline done by a scam orthodontist. Another fake lawyer firm is Goldstar Law of Royal Oak all using your tax dollars with no probable cause causing you millions and bllions with all these fake law firms renting space and having fake employees in expensive cities and advertising all over the television on prime time with all these fake lawyers. Other fake undercover agent lawyers are Ven Johnson, Sarah Cronin, and the Goldwater law firm. These law firms also do fake lawsuits bankrupting certain companies as fake HITLER PROPAGANDA to get the type of laws passed and ideals engrained in American society that he likes as a perverted sicko Asian mobster. Another fake propaganda news story was the fake 50 Shades of Grey Propaganda perverted sicko felony obscenity pornographic news story that he planted in the international news media to try to make the United States into a lewd and perverted morally corrupt nation and to bankrupt people thinking that investing in pornography companies is big business.
    He has also done major international sensation fake propaga news stories causing people to invest billions in companies based on these fake news stories only to blow all their money and become bankrupt. I will expose the rest of these fake news stories later to you all.

  64. Travis Aitch

    Harassing, prank calling, defamation…all illegal and in ANY other case in history would have been investigated by authorities before being published in media. There is no evidence he was harassed so why should anyone even believe this nonsense. Just like in ANY other case in history a guy who harbors 6 victims DURING a massacre and then proceeds to tell LITERALLY at least 5 different stories all with questionable details of how it happened without any authorities ever saying 'Hey, this guy is not telling the same story as he told us when we questioned him, that is odd" assuming they ever did question him.

    I will NEVER deny that the tragedy actually occurred because I don't have evidence and that is a horrible thought to convey. But at the same time I will NEVER refuse to speak out about a questionable story in the media. There is absolutely no reason to demonize people for asking questions about REAL ACTUAL LIES that Gene Rosen told. His reason for lying is what these 'crazy truthers' want to know! But not a single person can explain them without resorting to "well maybe he was just scared" as if people tell COMPLETELY different stories about something that JUST happened and after making the CONSCIOUS CHOICE to seek out the media and tell his story. Nobody tells over 5 different stories with completely different details! That's more of a theory than just being real and saying the dude is lying for some reason. (Whether to purposely provoke conspiracies or to get limelight or to hide something else or WHATEVER) Hell, not a single media outlet will even ADDRESS these lies. These were not slip-ups! They were blatant lies that should be questioned by anyone who has an independent brain!

    And spare me the "seek mental health" garbage. It is 100% natural to question lies when you see them right in your effing face. If anything, you need to seek help for your abnormal level of complacency.

  65. Kim LaCapria

    If you don't question the massacre, why would you question Rosen? How do you know he sought media, and not that the media sought HIM out? Do you know ANYTHING about adrenaline, panicked states and recall?

    What motivation would Gene have to lie UNLESS it "didn't happen?" This makes no sense.

  66. Travis Aitch

    Questioning the massacre and questioning a witness is not even on the same level so don't bring it up as a strawman that I can only answer in a dickish way. I know he sought media because it says so in his own exerpts of why he sought out the media. He said it helped him get through it. So yes he sought out the media, which means any normal person would have gotten their story straight at least ONE time. Have you seen all of his interviews and how different a good number of pertinent details are? He obviously had to tell a story to the officers if he is legit so why can't any of them help him out and confirm the actual story? Why in the history of the world is this the first time a guy who could potentially be a suspect is allowed to be going from media station to media station immediately after the tragedy and tell 5 different stories? That is NOT normal and I don't claim to know WHY the hell he would do it, that is what everyone else is asking so I guess you're on the boat too if you're asking me!

    What motivation would he have? Gee have you thought at all about it? The whole reason his lies are being so scrutinized is because of how OBVIOUS his motivations would be. Limelight, increasing the "sadness factor" of the story, increasing shock value of the guns, to purposely incite conspiracies so the gun-supporters can then be labeled as wackos (I don't like guns BTW), take your pick! How many logical motivations and blatant lies do you need before something is considered "justifiably" questioned in your eyes?

  67. Travis Aitch

    And if it's just a case of adrenaline that caused him to tell 5 completely different stories after making several conscious choices to be on the news and time to prepare and re-think his stories to maybe get just 2 or 3 consistent ones…why can't he just say that!? Why is he immediately calling for these people questioning his lies to be SHAMED or DECIMATED for christ sake. He wants to decimate people who ask questions about lies, without ever acknowledging the lies or explaining them or having anyone else confirm it without a doubt. The lies are ignored and the questioners are ridiculed. He didn't say he lied cuz he was packed with adrenaline, he denied and ignored it altogether and so did every so-called journalist reporting this story without evidence that anyone actually harassed him!

  68. Travis Aitch

    ZERO evidence of harassment, ZERO evidence of kids, ZERO evidence of him telling a straight story, ZERO evidence of the busdriver, ZERO evidence of the man yelling, ZERO evidence of tears, ZERO evidence from police statement. ZERO brains for anyone NOT questioning this story.

  69. Drain Bamage

    Yeah. That happens when the MSM is monopolized and people know it. They have a tendency to think cynically. Until we have a free press that isn't embedded with the Pentagon, you'll notice the "truther" movement grow larger and larger.

    Reality here is: The TV is telling you people what to believe. You, nor I really know. We can't, without evidence. So, in essence – the "anti-truthers" are conspiracy theorists themselves. Accepting this as fact without fact.

  70. Joesef Walker

    Of course it "suggests a conspiracy of massive scale and involvement, one that would be impossible to pull off". It was not impossible to pull off, and there definitely is an endgame. That's why the FBI will be investigating. I would suggest anyone trying to hide evidence or discredit anyone with simple common sense questions should back off until the investigation is over, which wont be until June sometime. You could get in trouble for impeding an ongoing investigation, you could be prosecuted.

  71. M Marie McVey

    How is Gene Rosen a Hero? He did nothing heroic. Not one damned thing.