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Saudis Demand McDonald’s Be Punished For Happy Meal Toy That Insults Muhammed

Muhammed Insulting Toy

The people of Saudi Arabia are furious with the McDonald’s fast food chain for a toy which they say desecrates the name of Muhammed, the prophet of Islam. They are demanding retribution.

According to the Arabic news website, Kermalkom.com,

“[the McDonald’s fast food restaurant] abused the Prophet Muhammad by placing his name at the base of a toy that is being distributed as part of the Happy Meal, a toy which steps on the name ‘Muhammad.'”

The toy is a blue super hero on a blue base. The toy looks like a Mighty Morphin Power Ranger samurai warrior. The toy stand on one of its legs and the other leg hangs over the side of the base. When a lever is pressed the toy’s other leg smahes against the base of the toy in a stomping motion.

The Saudis are claiming that the base of the toy, where it stomps its foot, is covered with the name Muhammed. They claim the name is written several times in circles all over the base so every time it stomps it is stomping on Muhammed.

The toy had been distributed for several days and until today no one had noticed the name written on the base of the toy. After its discovery by Saudi Muslim authorities they lunched several campaigns against the restaurant “in response to the savage attacks on the noble prophet”. The campaigns were called “Help your Prophet” and “Together in support of the Prophet.”

In response, “Saudi McDonald’s” has taken the toy out of circulation at all of its restaurants stating it was important, “to safeguard against any accusations or misunderstandings.”

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225 Responses to “Saudis Demand McDonald’s Be Punished For Happy Meal Toy That Insults Muhammed”

  1. Fingolfin Rhûndagnir

    Well, I suppose this is balance. Several years ago muslims got their knickers all in a twist over some squiggly lines on ice cream packaging at Burger King that they imagined said "allah", and now it's some squiggly lines on a McDonald's toy that they imagine says "muhammad".

    I love how they're STILL pissed even when McDonald's immediately apologizes and removes it from circulation. Bunch of neanderthals.

    “in response to the savage attacks on the noble prophet”? Really? Savage attacks? It's a fucking plastic toy. If only they put this sort of energy and fury into combatting extremism. But then again, that would mean combatting themselves.

  2. Levi Shaari

    ROFL. What a bunch of mononeuronal idiots. They are so damned indoctrinated with the "fear" of what will happen to their miserable souls that they see "allah" in every squiggly line out there. Retards.

  3. Maccabee Antonius

    I'm sorry,it might be because I'm not a expert on the many different forms of writing arabic but that does not look like Muhammad's name,it looks more like little zig-zag thunderbolts.

  4. Jeremy Pike

    Heh! Well give the Saudis a call and let them know.

  5. Joshua Bailey

    Why would you need a toy to insult the murderous thief called Muhammed. The Koran and Hadiths do it quite well on their own.

  6. Joe Joseph

    Now, now, let's just bend over and give in to these insensitive pagan fanatics….so they will stop crying. I mean, they desecrate all forms of humanity including their own idea of islam then cry when someone else comes close to doing it….geesh….

  7. Diane Dietsch

    Why the manufacturer would put Mohammad's name on the bottom of a toy, I have no idea, but if they did so intentionally-the Muslims have every right to protest it.

  8. Tom Dunne

    MUHAMMEDS MOTHER SHOULD HAVE STOMPED ON HIM WHEN HE WAS BORN AND MCDONALDS WOULD NOT RUNNING FOR THEIR LIVES.OH WAIT MUHAMMED DID NOT HAVE A MOTHER , ONLY A FATHER, SATAN.

  9. Anonymous

    Maybe they would have preferred a toy that chopped off an infidels head when the lever was pushed.

  10. Mike De Fleuriot

    Pretty dumb stupid, hell there are even some folks that think a cracker turns into human flesh if you say a magic spell over it.

  11. Mike De Fleuriot

    And that Jesus could also do with some stomping, or rather a double tap in the head, cause that is what you do to zombies that rise from the grave.

  12. Linda Grupe Ferreira

    Seems they see insults to Muhammed every where! They think nothing of insulting us with such BS. Maybe McDonalds should just up and leave…Who needs them?

  13. Steven Drohan

    Why does Islam get so offended by everything! You cant draw muhammad, 'depict' his name on a toy or say anything bad about him. I can say whatever the f*ck I want like that he was a "perverted child molester and was the leader of a cult that grew over the centuries" and nothing would happen. In an Islamic country, there goes my head! I personnally see muhammad no more than a story teller. If the only way to defend your belief is to kill of jail somebody then that's just f*cked up!

  14. Rogi Riverstone

    NICE typo: "After its discovery by Saudi Muslim authorities they lunched several campaigns…"

  15. Eric Harer

    For crying out loud, what the h*ll is the matter with these people? Gas costs them 2 cents a gallon, their wealthy shiek leaders drive around in cars made out of silver, and they chop off the hands or the head of anyone who disagrees with their so-called "sacred laws." McDonalds' are not the real savages in this scenario.

  16. Steve Gipson

    Fuck Mohammed. Mohammed can lick my ass and then lie on the ground so i can dance on his pigshit covered dead carcass.

  17. Chris Jay

    Muhammad… it's a frickin' name… -_- Get over it…

  18. Chris Jay

    Pagan fanatics? O_o

    Since when are Muslim's, Pagan?

  19. Chris Jay

    Pagan fanatics? O_o

    Since when are Muslim's, Pagan?

  20. Chris Jay

    That's with most religions, especially among dogmatic religions, and fundamentalists in those religions, be it Christianity, Islam, Judaism, etc.

  21. Chris Jay

    That's with most religions, especially among dogmatic religions, and fundamentalists in those religions, be it Christianity, Islam, Judaism, etc.

  22. Dave Core

    I can't tell by looking at the picture, but I don't think it looks like the Arabic for the name Mohammad either. The story doesn't help clarify the issue either. Hey, author or editor of the story, can you help us out here. What does McDonald's claim the symbols are supposed to be? Also, was it manufactured by Arabic speaking people?

  23. Art Brns

    Mike De Fleuriot I think its ok for the freedom fighting folks in the sandbox to support Mohammud by 'beating the meat' an appropriate description for punishing McDonalds.

  24. Chris Jay

    Every Pagan I know is civilized, including my sister… and I'm an atheist… so instead of using improper words, people need to use correct words…

  25. Mark Slone

    And yet, Pagans are some of most civilized people I know.

  26. Pat Ansers

    McDonald's shouldn't back down-leave the toy as it is and IN the Happy Meals; if these cretins go berserk and start burning flags, and whatever else and hurt any McDonald's executives (heads will roll? lol) then maybe the liberals who think these people are so peaceful will see them for who and what they really are…however, I doubt the media will report it–they don't want to offend their buddies.

  27. Pat Ansers

    McDonald's shouldn't back down-leave the toy as it is and IN the Happy Meals; if these cretins go berserk and start burning flags, and whatever else and hurt any McDonald's executives (heads will roll? lol) then maybe the liberals who think these people are so peaceful will see them for who and what they really are…however, I doubt the media will report it–they don't want to offend their buddies.

  28. Chris Jay

    Well, they don't whitewash their religion like other theistic faiths do… Christianity along with most dogmatic religions have been practically neutered in most civilized societies… secular countries like the US, Canada, etc. don't allow religious influence, or shouldn't allow it, as much as these middle eastern countries do…

  29. Anonymous

    The Saudi's seem to resent anyone making a profit off their prophet.

  30. Buba Garrett

    Mike makes me want to go order a dozen Happy meals!!

  31. Heidi Vogel

    I'm thinking the pagan fanatics he is referring to are the one's who pray to the golden arches of Micky D.

  32. Lloyd Phillips

    Doubt it,, not too many people I china speak Arabic

  33. Heidi Vogel

    It's because of the fact Muhammad and his followers were chased out of Mecca because at the time, the Arab religion was based on Capitalism and the Muslim faith is based upon non-monetary prayer to Allah. So Muhammad and his followers were stuck in caves in the desert barely surviving and the only thing Muhammad could think of to save his flock was to come up with concept of Jihad so he could rationalize looting the caravans going into Mecca.

  34. Heidi Vogel

    And now we have monsters who are taking advantage of that one clause.

  35. Lisa Rothberg Olds

    The things that religious people get upset about. **sigh**

  36. Tom Dunne

    you will have the chance to say that to HIS face.

  37. Brian Barrish

    I agree with you, Chris. But words often have more than one meaning. You or I use the term to describe an individual who practices any number of religions that center around nature. However, the term was originally used by the Romans to describe what they considered to be uncivilized people who lived in huts and slept on straw beds. As Christianity rose in popularity, it became a common insult to describe non-Christians. I also hate to see the term used this way, as most people who identify as "Pagan" are incredibly wonderful people who respect all life.

  38. Chris Jay

    I am, but Joe Joseph said "Now, now, let's just bend over and give in to these insensitive pagan fanatics."

  39. Lauren Janell

    Is there anything that *doesn't* anger muslims? Recently, a Saudi woman was accosted in a shopping mall just for wearing nail polish.

  40. Brian Barrish

    I sincerely hope a woman wasn't the one who realized it resembled an Arabic word… she would have inadvertently tipped people off to the fact that she could READ!

  41. Paul Hannah

    Tom Dunne: I doubt it. But if that eventuality arises I'll ask 2 questions. 1. Which god are you? 2. Why did you make it impossible for a rational, non child abused, person with any brains could believe that you existed?

  42. Zachary Uram

    I thought at first glance this was a story on The Onion! HOW MORONIC CAN YOU GET?

  43. Tom Dunne

    BELIEVE WHAT YOU LIKE.IF YOU ARE RIGHT,YOU LOSE NOTHING. IF I AM RIGHT YOU AND MIKE ABOVE YOU LOSE EVERY THING. EITHER WAY IT MATTERS NOT TO ME. I ONLY MENTIONED THIS BECAUSE MIKE SAID JESUS NEEDED A STOMPING AND SHOULD BE SHOT.

  44. Heidi Vogel

    Sorry, Constantine, The First Holy Catholic Roman Emperor, was in fact Pagan and it was he who demanded that Christmas and Easter be celebrated during the Pagan holidays. Funny how the founder of the Catholic Church wasn't even a believer.

  45. Heidi Vogel

    Tom Dunne – Dead and bodiless spirits don't have faces.

  46. Joel Shircliff

    lol you can insult another religion's prophet, but when it comes to your own guy you get all butthurt. You religious folk amuse me.

  47. Heidi Vogel

    Here's the thing. It is not MERE coincidence that the Arabic symbols spelled Muhammad's name on the toy. It was NOT a coincidence that the name was placed in the Stomping position of this action figure toy who is supposed to be "stomping out evil". The question is how high up the executive ladder in McD's organization did this idea go? Obviously the designer was in on it. And the CAD drafter(s) that set the mold digitally… Can't blame the die guy on the actual manufacturing machine unless he took out the die and carved the symbols as his own little way of expressing his anti-muslim bigotry.

    If the toy was stomping on the name JESUS or Jehova, or Yaweh, or Vishnu, I'm sure we'd have heard from another religious mother complaining about the blatant religious slur.

    You all would be pissed if a toy showed the American Flag or GOD FORBID the BIBLE being burned… Why can't peeps with other religious tenants get just as outraged?

  48. Brian Barrish

    lol very true, Heidi. I might add that he wasn't a fool, either. He knew that a centralized religious institution was an invaluable tool in the consolidation of power. It was the same strategy used by the Egyptian pharaoh Akhenaten centuries earlier. Constantine succeeded where Akhenaten failed because he was shrewd enough to consolidate power through a belief system that was gaining popularity among the people.

  49. Kathy Fesler

    Wonder if they get upset when someone named Muhammed commits a crime. Do they punished them for disgracing the name?

  50. Paul Hannah

    Tom Dunne: Do you think that SHOUTING makes your point more valid?
    Ah the old ' Well if I believe and it's wrong, then I lose nothing, but if I believe and it is right then I gain everything' argument. It has been a whole week since I heard that. But what if you are believing in the wrong god? What if the Mormons are right? Buhddists? What if the god that is the correct god, doesn't have any adherents on earth and s/he regards it as blasphemous to wear a cap with the shade over your eyes? You'll be doomed, as will I.

  51. Paul Hannah

    Tom Dunne: Do you think that SHOUTING makes your point more valid?
    Ah the old ' Well if I believe and it's wrong, then I lose nothing, but if I believe and it is right then I gain everything' argument. It has been a whole week since I heard that. But what if you are believing in the wrong god? What if the Mormons are right? Buhddists? What if the god that is the correct god, doesn't have any adherents on earth and s/he regards it as blasphemous to wear a cap with the shade over your eyes? You'll be doomed, as will I.

  52. Heidi Vogel

    No you won't. No one will. It is scientifically impossible for you to stay who you are after your brain is dead. This is proven countless times when someone has partial brain death and their ENTIRE personality (soul) changes because they now use different neuralpathways and they forgot their past and the wisdom they gained.

    When the part of your brain that controls your eyes is destroyed, you no longer see. When the part of your brain where your hearing is interpreted is destroyed you will no longer hear. YadaYada…

    Religion is just a belief in imaginary beings passed down the ages from when everyone lived in starw huts and wore bearskins and used stone knives. Here's a test, go to South America and find a person from one of those rain forest tribes and ask them to define Gravity, Atomic Particles, DNA, and Dark Matter… I'm sure they'll not understand any of that… But they will say some deity created their forest world and everything in it.

  53. Jim Conley

    It almost seems like for every christian out there who sees Jesus' face on a piece of toast, there is some muslim who sees Muhammad or Allah's name on a children's toy. What up with that?

  54. Heidi Vogel

    Hence why religion is a tool for control and has nothing to do with spiritual salvation.

  55. Heidi Vogel

    Stop denying you are just an organic computer that will cease to exits once you no longer function.

  56. Heidi Vogel

    Sorry, but if the toy had Jesus instead of Muhammad in the position where the toy stomped, I'm sure we would have heard some crazy devout Evangelist from Oklahoma stating that this was a toy manufactured by the devil himself.

  57. Joel Shircliff

    Tom Dunne but Pascal's wager can just as easily be turned around on you. What if Allah really IS the one true god and Muhammad is his prophet? You could have really fucked up your chances of Heaven with that comment…

    Do you base all of your beliefs and decisions solely on fear?

  58. Heidi Vogel

    Exactly, I'm pretty sure this was on purpose. Whether it was done by someone who had control over the design/retrofit of the manufacturing die or whether it was known by people higher up in the executive branch we will never know.

  59. Heidi Vogel

    You call every human being a person. If you don't, then you are a racist…

  60. Heidi Vogel

    If they had JESUS or CHRIST or GOD written under the area the toy stomped, I bet you some Evangelistic Mom from hicksville Texas would be all up in arms against those devils at MickeyD's.

  61. Heidi Vogel

    Yeah, McDonald's should have know this little joke of their's wouldn't fly…

  62. Heidi Vogel

    Wonder how many Evangelists would have decried foul if Jesus's name was being stomped on instead of Muhammad's….

  63. Tom Dunne

    EVEN THOUGH YOU HEARD THAT ARGUMENT A WEEK AGO, IT IS VALID.WHAT IF YOU ARE BELIEVING IN THE WRONG GOD? I AM SUPRISED SO MANY PEOPLE ARE OFENDED TO A STATEMENT I MADE THAT DOES NOT CONCERN THEM.MUHAMMED WAS A VIOLENT HOMOSEXUAL PEDOPHILE AND BUILT A VIOLENT RELIGION AROUND HIS SICK NEED TO FORCE HIMSELF ON WOMEN AND CHILDREN. THIS INFO. IS HISTORY AND CAN BE CHECKED,BUT THE UNINFORMED WONT. KNOWLEDGE BRINGS RESPONSIBILITY. I AM BORED THIS IS MY LAST STATEMENT ON THIS SUBJECT. I USE CAPS BECAUSE THEY ARE EASY TO SEE.

  64. Heidi Vogel

    Brain dead means loss of mentation. Our emotions are based on chemical reactions between neurons. I notice that most overly religious people who spout hate and intolerance for those of other religions are actually very ignorant of nature and science and they are soo afraid of losing the only thing they know (dogmatic bullshit in a stupid little book) that they'll villify anything remotely different than them.

    Read some books on science, babe. It's impossible to have naything of YOURSELF survive your death except for maybe that un measureable energy you want to name a "soul". You will never see God, even if such a thing exists because you are a physical being.

  65. Joel Shircliff

    Wait, he's homosexual and likes forcing himself on women… What?

    And no, Pascal's wager is NOT valid. It's a false dichotomy for one thing, ignoring all other choices (including Islam). It ignores all the dogma you have to follow in the Christian faith… And it treats the two options it offers (Jesus Christ or no god) as if they both have equal likelihood, which if you studied the evidence you'd see they do not.
    We can read your rants just fine without the caps; all they do is make you look like an immature angry child.

  66. Joel Shircliff

    Wait, he's homosexual and likes forcing himself on women… What?

    And no, Pascal's wager is NOT valid. It's a false dichotomy for one thing, ignoring all other choices (including Islam). It ignores all the dogma you have to follow in the Christian faith… And it treats the two options it offers (Jesus Christ or no god) as if they both have equal likelihood, which if you studied the evidence you'd see they do not.
    We can read your rants just fine without the caps; all they do is make you look like an immature angry child.

  67. Tom Dunne

    WHY ARE YOU SO ANGRY?JUST BECAUSE WE DISAGREE,THAT IS CHILDISH.ADULTS CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE WITH RESPECT AND NOT ANGER.

  68. Heidi Vogel

    Uniformed huh Tom? How much of your so called Bible have you actually read? You better not be eating shrimp, or pork… Or watch Miss Universe, or have a playboy issue hanging around. Or have pride (one of the seven deadly sins). Oh but you can own slaves so long as they aren't from your community… Oh and you can participate in stoning people to death even though one the ten commandments says Though Shall Not Kill.

    And you can have you child stoned to death if they talk back….

  69. Joel Shircliff

    You're the one typing in all caps and, ranting about homosexuals, and saying someone's mom should have stomped him to death at birth… I'm just calmly correcting your logic. :)

    I thought you weren't gonna post anymore.

  70. Heidi Vogel

    Joel Shircliff – LOL, people like Tom NEED to have the last word. It's part of their OCD on religion. They must prove themselves righteous by silencing all heretics. There is no logic to their neurosis, it is purely a delusion of grandeur. They say I will be proved right after we all die… Problem I have is that someone this unstable ALMOST became the Vice President…

  71. Tom Mansfield

    What I want to know is…where can I just outright buy these toys? I want many!

  72. Heidi Vogel

    HEy! Next toy McD's might put out will have the name Jesus Christ where the toy stomps. Bet a lot of Evangelists will love to buy happy meals with that little special treasure inside just waiting for their kiddos.

  73. Heidi Vogel

    HEy! Next toy McD's might put out will have the name Jesus Christ where the toy stomps. Bet a lot of Evangelists will love to buy happy meals with that little special treasure inside just waiting for their kiddos.

  74. Heidi Vogel

    Unless McD's puts the name Jesus Christ in the position where the toy stomps…. Then that would truly be an outrage, right?

  75. Heidi Vogel

    Unless McD's puts the name Jesus Christ in the position where the toy stomps…. Then that would truly be an outrage, right?

  76. Heidi Vogel

    Ummm, I'm Atheist… I'll insult all religions. Personally this holy war is like a whole bunch of stupid bullies on the playground fighting over who's imaginary friend is the bestest…

  77. Heidi Vogel

    Ummm, I'm Atheist… I'll insult all religions. Personally this holy war is like a whole bunch of stupid bullies on the playground fighting over who's imaginary friend is the bestest…

  78. Rick Wallis

    they don't just get outraged, they blow shit up and chop heads off. If this was in the states and it said god on it people would be pissed off but they wouldn't act like those animals.

  79. Rick Wallis

    I love how Heidi Vogel replies to everyones comment with "What if it said God on it?". Yes, we heard you the first 5 times now and no one gives a shit. Go on one of those camel jockeys websites and share that with them. I'm sure you will make a few new friends ;).
    And no, I don't believe in any god. It's just that I hate when someones only argument is "what if…"!
    (Oops, scratch that making friends part – because once they see that you're a woman they'll want you dead! So, go ahead and keep defending them.)

  80. Joe Henneberry

    Proof that they'll make up "excuses" and "justifications" to push their crazy beliefs! There's no dealing with these people.

  81. David W. Alderman

    Chris Jay So, your sister belongs to a Motorcycle gang?

  82. Sheena Martinez

    Any one who defends those nasty ass aribs are stupid they all need to go back to were they came from. They come to america thinking they own,everything better yet have no respect! So fuck all of them

  83. Anonymous

    Geesh! Its a lightning bolt people…Super hero with a lightining bolt! Get a grip!

  84. Cole Campbell

    I like stepping on child rapists too.Where can I get one? Ebay?

  85. Joe Joseph

    And everyone…I am referring to the muslims here. Islam is a pagan religion that was bore from the womb of the RCC. But if anything one does is not for or thru Christ, it is a paganistic behavior….so pagan can apply to a great many things….but for this, I am referring to islam.

  86. Joe Joseph

    And everyone…I am referring to the muslims here. Islam is a pagan religion that was bore from the womb of the RCC. But if anything one does is not for or thru Christ, it is a paganistic behavior….so pagan can apply to a great many things….but for this, I am referring to islam.

  87. Heidi Vogel

    What's really funny is that the Catholic HolySee website has the documentations proving that Constantine oversaw the creation of the Catholic Church and Bible and there are legal documents pertaining to his request for Easter and Christmas as a way to ease the transition of pagans into the new religion.

    Also, the Letters to the Corinthians mentioned that Jesus Christ was the Savior as prophesized. By whom? Why by the Oracle of Delphi who so happened to be aligned with Apollo the Greek Pagan Sun God. The Holy See even admits this as well… Funny how Sun Gods appear to be in control of things huh?

    Oh and Horus (an ancient Egyptian Sun God) was also born of a virgin mother Isis and the God Osiris. He was baptized in a river by a man who was later decapitated. Horus had 12 followers and he performed miracles. Horus could walk on water. Horus died on a cross between two thieves and resurrected on the third day.

    Kind of funny how religions just continue to be recycled without even changing the story AT ALL.

  88. Heidi Vogel

    Joe Joseph – Actually Islam is NOT a Pagan religion as they believe Allah is the same God. They do NOT believe that Jesus Christ was the mortal son of God, but merely a prophet. They believe that Allah sent a prophet to all nations carrying his law in their own language to follow in their own way. Muhammad was a travelling salesman and knew about the newly formed Catholic Religion (new being 300 CE and his time being 600 CE) and based all his dogma to coincide with theirs to make it more acceptable. He had angels, and if you look closely at the edicts they closely match with early RCC doctrine.

    Muhammad DID differentiate his religion so his people (Arabs) would feel special in the eyes of Allah. For example no drinking grain based alcohols and the cutting off of offending body parts (thieves lost their hands). Plus, Arab culture was worshipping this piece of meteorite in Mecca as a piece of Heaven. That's the reason thy need to pray in a specific direction (towards the Kaaba in Mecca). Supposedly this Black Stone dates back to Adam and Eve. See? They believe in Genesis.

    So no they are NOT pagans. They are an offshoot of Judeo-Christian beliefs where they do not believe Jesus was God's Son (like the Jewish) but shun the addition of usury to loaned money (Christian)…

    If you ridicule one of the three religions, you have to ridicule them all since they are so closely tied.

  89. Psyk Pyrate

    Chris Jay you are incorrect. Pagan means non-christian similar to the word infidel which means non-muslim.

  90. Joe Joseph

    As I said, any religion that does not believe Christ as the Messiah and Son of God….is a pagan religion. I caution you. In the Garden, satan changed one word and sin entered the world. Satan created a religion to mirror the one the true chosen people of God had or believed(hebrews) and thus created a family tree and chronology with similar parrallels so as to seem plausible to be in line with true Christianity and its beliefs….BUT IT IS NOT. Without Christ, there is no forgivness of sin and thus, we all are bound to sin and death. Christ is the only way……anything contrary to that IN ANY FORM is pagan in origin and not of God.

  91. Heidi Vogel

    No Pagan religion believes in gods other than the God in the Bible. You would be calling Jewish people pagans as well with your definition.

  92. Heidi Vogel

    errr No, Pagan religions = belief in a god other than the one depicted in the Bible….

    Muslims believe in the same god as Christian and Jewish. Stick that in your craw and smoke it.

  93. Heidi Vogel

    Psyk Pyrate – BEEEEEHHHHHH! Wrong! The word you refer to is HERETIC! Pagan just refers to those religions around BEFORE the Talmud (Jewish belief system). Don't forget out 1st testament is JEWISH.

    Infidel originally referred to those "pagans" in Mecca who were practicing a Capitalistic form of worship of the black stone of the Kaaba in Mecca. Muhammad needed to justify the raiding of the Mecca caravans so that his followers could survive their exile. They finally took Mecca and brought the city under Muslim rule. This happened around 600 CE. The 1st testament is based off the Talmud which refers to "pagans" from Egyptian and BC Roman Empire times.

    You are so worried about salvation that you are blind to how much hate you have in your heart for those who don't believe in what you believe in. You will never reach your heaven with that type of attitude.

    Oh wait… heaven doesn't exist…

  94. Heidi Vogel

    That last thing about salvation was meant for Joe Joseph…

  95. Max Grollmus

    Are you kidding, Heidi? I was just watching a video of Jesus wearing diapers and singing to Gloria Gaynor's "I will survive." Guess what, nobody is making death threats over it.

  96. Simon Howard

    This is a hilarious thread. Tom Dunne is the worst kind of angry delusional hypocrite. You'd have to be seriously myopic to go around insulting one religion and then accuse others of being "childish" and "disrespectful" when others say the exact same things against your own religion.

  97. Pat Ansers

    Heidi Vogel I really don't think McDonald's blatantly put this on there…it's that these radicals THINK that these squiggly lines SAYS Mohammed, when it DOESN'T. Thinking logically, why would McDonald's do something like this on purpose? Now IF there was no mistaking, and Mo was a definite figure, and not some squiggly lines, then I'd say it was wrong, but Heidi, how many are protesting the KILLINGS of Christians by these barbarians…are YOU? Apologists want to admonish us for any slights to the muslims, but NOT ONE of the apologists are decrying the KILLINGS, FGM, ETC done by them to the Christians and their own.

  98. Pat Ansers

    …and after looking at your page, I can see that you don't like Christians and you're an obama sheeple, so I see why you would counter with something about Christians…so typical of your type…read up on how muslim brotherhood wants to take over the US and you don't have to worry about us "becoming a Christian nation" (your words to that effect) but rather, you'll be shopping ecstatically for a burka instead.

  99. Pat Ansers

    …and after looking at your page, I can see that you don't like Christians and you're an obama sheeple, so I see why you would counter with something about Christians…so typical of your type…read up on how muslim brotherhood wants to take over the US and you don't have to worry about us "becoming a Christian nation" (your words to that effect) but rather, you'll be shopping ecstatically for a burka instead.

  100. Heidi Vogel

    I never said I don't like Christians, it's you who take my criticism of archane superstitions personal. I despise how some sheeple think that they can have small government and a Christian State at the same time. I despise when people will fight tooth and nail for the 2nd Amendment but totally gloss over the fact that the ultimate reason for the 2nd is to protect ALL our rights including the 1st Amendment wherein Congress shall not make any laws with respect to any religious establishment. You cannot just pick and choose your freedoms, it's an all or nothing deal. BTW, I don't HATE, the Right Wing Extremists do enough of that…

    Sorry but any company who sells products in a foreign land goes through R&D to determine the language issues. This was a lesson learned all the way back when Chevy couldn't sell their Nova's in Mexico -> because No Va means No Go… So no, this was an obvious offense. Whether it was done by someone in the production line OR if the executives thought this would be an insidious way to deprogram Muslims kids is unknown.

    And when you show such negativity towards our current president it is obvious you are part of the 50% of the voting mob the 1%ers are manipulating (100 IQ is average – 50% must be 100 or less) in order to get their 51% majority vote.

  101. Pat Ansers

    Lol! Heidi, while I respect your comment I got my opinion from your page, and well if I'm wrong, my sincerest apologies. I remember the Nova, and let's not forget Colgate lol, which means, go hang yourself! So, yeah, I can get the mistranslations lol! The negativity I feel towards obama is not an opinion but based on facts of his performance–and regardless of party affiliation, a person who condones partial birth abortion and ridicules the SCOTUS about their continued ban on partial birth is not anyone I like! Look up how he didn't want to sign the Born Alive bill…and btw, my IQ is well above the 100 mark :)

  102. Heidi Vogel

    here's the thing, you act as if Christians are above attacking others in the name of their beliefs… Yet we still have bomb threats to Planned Parenthood clinics….

  103. Heidi Vogel

    For sure, Muslim is NOT a capitalistic religion. This is based on the fact that BEFORE Muhammad created Muslim, all the Arab's in his area prayed to the Black Stone in the Kaaba in Mecca by way of paying sellers who had trinkets and offerings. So yeah, they'll get pissed if anyone tries to make money off the Muslim religion.

  104. Pat Ansers

    I don't look at those "Christians" as true Christians; because if they were they would know that they are NOT the ones to be the Judge–only GOD is the judge of our sins-not Man. Many people label themselves as Christians, i.e on a hospital registration sheet, but their actions are far from being Christian lol! It's a shame that this fringe group, whether it's the abortion clinic bombers, or Westboro or that church in NC that wants the people in LGBT to die are highlighted, and people look at them as representatives of what Christianity is about, which it definitely isn't.

  105. Heidi Vogel

    So then you can understand how I think it's very hypocritical to get all indignant that the Saudi's are pissed at this religious snafu as if all Muslims are violent and take things out of context.

    There are religious zealots in EVERY religion. What's so sad, is all religions are about imaginary beings and were created by peeps in caves who had no idea the Earth was round, we have DNA, the sun is actually a massive fusion-fission reactor, and that those pretty little lights in the night sky are actually billions and billions of starts which hold a possibility of life other than our own.

    We need to teach more science and logic in our public schools.

  106. Les Legato

    hot tip for you, the jihadis are coming for you and your sister as soon as they are done with us Christians and Jews.

  107. Heidi Vogel

    Hey! Even Jesus had no problem with slavery. Once he went to a Roman's house where he healed the sick slave. He praised the Roman for being a good person to care for his slave enough to go against his own pagan religion and summon Jesus… Not once did Jesus admonish him for owning another human being.

    So either Jesus AND God were misinformed as to how horribly inhumane it is to own another human OR they are both evil…

    You know, this would be really funny if we find out that the Devil was the one who got all these religions started. It's kind of hinting at that since every religion says that anybody who doesn't believe in their prescribed god will NOT be favored and must be either be forcefully converted or executed.

  108. Pat Ansers

    There is also proof that Jesus existed–I don't know about Jesus condoning slavery as (and here it is again) the Bible was TRANSLATED from Greek. For example, the english word "faith" is used for the greek word "pistuo" and their version of "faith" as pistuo is VERY different from our word, but I guess that was the closest interpretation. Muslims kill apostates however, I haven't heard of any modern day Christians killing anyone for converting to another religion. There's a muslim convert to Christianity in Iran that is in prison for this very reason–and even his lawyer is jailed for defending him! You can't compare modern day Christianity with today's muslims–there's no comparison. Christians aren't running around killing muslims willy nilly…I can show you so much stuff as to what's going on, you'd be astounded!

  109. Heidi Vogel

    Christians not killing anybody??? Didn't you hear Bush Jr. Saying that he's doing God's Will?

  110. Heidi Vogel

    Pat Ansers – And Palin spoke in front of an Evangelical congregation stating that our soldiers are doing God's Will over there in Iraq… Oh and how about all those Christians at home who kept on saying that we should just drop a bomb on all of them…

  111. Pat Ansers

    Well, even that's not really the right thing to say, lol, remember, we are far from perfect in God's eyes–like our own children, as much as we want them to behave–and many of them do, keep in mind the parents who have children who have turned to drugs, crime, etc…most parents don't raise their kids to be that way, but some do turn out that way. Now, with the Middle East…with the hate they have shown us, and the atrocities that have been done on their own by their own…it makes one say "bomb them all" in exasperation! How many terrorist attacks have been perpetrated by them–the Marine barracks in Lebanon, WTC-TWICE, USS Cole, the embassies in various places, Lockerbie–where hundreds of innocent civilians lost their lives in an airplane crash, shall I go on? How many of these attacks are we going to put up with? Look at how flying has changed to thwart these terrorists? How about just going to Ellis Island to see the Statue of Liberty? Many more things I could name…and all of these aren't for crazy Christians, but for the jihadists whose Koran tells them to wage war against us! Shall we just sit back and let them keep attacking us? What do you propose?

  112. Pat Ansers

    Sweetie, you seem to forget that we are AT WAR? So, it's okay for the muslims to kill us? Seems like you don't have a problem with that as you're not bringing it up? How about muslim girls IN AMERICA being killed by their fathers in honor killings? A girl right down the road from where I live was a victim of this. There is NO comparison–muslims are killing whether there is war or not in the name of islam–thousands upon thousands have been killed by THEIR OWN! and thousands of AMERICANS have been killed by them–remember 9/11? Were we at war with them at the time? No we weren't yet they have killed plenty of us and their own in the name of Allah…how many Christians have been killed by Christians in this manner in peace time? Let me not forget the thousands of Christians in Africa and the Middle East that are being slaughtered by your peace loving muslims…you need to wake up.

  113. Joe Henneberry

    The difference being, a Christian might make a statement about religious prejudice…the Islamic reaction is to capture a "western heretic" and chop off his head and make a you tube video about it and claim justification from a toy or a cartoon! There's no comparison!

  114. Joe Joseph

    Sounds like your the hater here. Afraid to have faith and practice a faith in something bigger and older than yourself. Another one of those who only believe in what they can see or hold. You quote like your wise or educated, but let me ask, what is the difference in believing in something written by men thousands of years ago that claim it was handed down from God Himself for us, and you being so naive to belive something MEN also taught you all those years in school books,newspapers and such? They were men or women and you trusted what they taught you that you some how would learn something or be smart, yet you cannot fathom that I can be the same from what I READ and TEACH……….its ok, people like you always have a come back and an answer for…..nothing at all….

  115. Matthew Graham Fahey

    i am not sure which Qur'an you are reading but i think you might be reading a different book entirely

  116. Matthew Graham Fahey

    Joe Joseph i have an answer for you, one christian to another. The difference is i can run the test that proved the science right over and over and get the same results, I can actually PROVE it, religion is different no matter which one you believe you can not PROVE you are right that is where faith comes in. So you see it makes sense to trust science, I have FAITH in God and Jesus, I dont need FAITH to believe science.

    also whether or not she believes in God has no impact on the fact that you were wrong and she was right…

  117. Matthew Graham Fahey

    I would ask people to consider that the reaction is typical of MIDDLE EASTERN PEOPLE not Muslims in general. This is a cultural as well as religious difference and to simplify it into one or the other is ignorant.

  118. Matthew Graham Fahey

    also protestants did the same thing during the reformation, burning crucifixes because they viewed it as idol worship. Muslims believe the same way thus they oppose images of any prophet because it might become an idol to be worshiped.

  119. Matthew Graham Fahey

    Pat, please just stop you are making a fool of yourself. First Christ taught to turn the other cheeck how is retaliation following that ideal. regardless of this issue though Obama's performance does speak for itself, Federal spending is increasing more slowly than at any time in the past 60 years, the VA has more funds to help returning soldiers, the list goes on. He has kept roughly 36% of his promises and the majority of the rest are in the works. only about 10% have been broken. I think you need stop listening to FOX NEWS and actually start paying attention.

    remember 9/11…yes i do…i also remember that there were Muslims in those towers, including a pregnant woman, so before you start making blanket statements please think first. It would also be a good idea if you are going to type in English to not use Anglicized Arabic words, namely the word for God, Allah means God, its a translation.

  120. Pat Ansers

    Oh and here comes Matthew telling me to stop making a fool of myself lol with his liberal mantras! So, Matthew, i guess if someone came up and called you a few choice names, and then socked you square in the jaw, you're going to walk away? You're going to allow yourself to get pummeled, right? Maybe you will, because you probably hit like a girl lol! Watching Fox news? Another liberal mantra–they think everyone that DOESN'T agree with them watches FOX news, how funny is that? Maybe I could say for you to stop watching MSNBC so much, y'think? In fact, I haven't watched Fox news in a while, except this morning when obama was unveiling the portraits of former president Bush and First Lady Laura…and how interesting that they got standing ovations on more than one occasion and wild applause, yet the obamas got a very subdued reaction…yeah, keep dreaming of them as your messiah. His performance has been crappy, and his little bit has you guys in a frenzy. Let's not forget Solyndra and his other stupid crap. Oh, where is the transparency? 36%? Why isn't it higher? Don't blame Bush; obama's had over 3 years to do his promises and he also had a Dem House and Senate to work with, so when his adoring fans are telling him to stop blaming and start leading this should tell you something. As for muslims, I have a FB friends FROM Egypt, and guess what? They're muslims and they're VERY UPSET that the Muslim Brotherhood has taken over. So, as you see me in my profile picture, do I look like someone who's all for the burka? I don't think so. Get a clue on what fundamental islam is…honor killings, female GENITAL MUTILATION, stonings, etc…try looking at the website Act for America and learn something. Btw, hopefully you aren't living too close to a terrorist training camp that the government has been turning a blind eye to for the past few decades. You'll be the first to go, because you'll be trying to be friends and there you go.

  121. Pat Ansers

    And another thing, another friend of mine saw a muslim "community center" and decided she'd try to visit…guess what? They treated her like she was an outcast and wouldn't let her in! Maybe they don't know what the word "community" is, y'think? Oh, and your pregnant muslim woman…what, being pregnant makes you serene? How about the mother who CONDONED her daughter's honor killing–which btw happened not too far from where I live–how about that? They have her on tape talking to her hubby in jail about this…you do know those conversations are recorded? How about the muslim woman who HELD down her daughter so the father could stab the daughter to death? You really need to read up on the subject. When you have former muslim females decrying their religion and the atrocities perpetrated on them, something must be wrong…maybe when men get their balls cut off, or their glans penis cut off, they'll be sympathetic to the plight of muslim GIRLS getting their clits cut off. So don't come here and tell me i'm making a fool of myself, you're the fool-a blissfully ignorant one at that.

  122. Pat Ansers

    How about these verses Matthew…Qu'ran 16:106 Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie…or The Qur'an says: "Fight and slay the pagans [Christians] wherever ye find them and seize them, confine them, and lie in wait for them in every place of ambush" (Surah 9:5)…gee, unless fight and slay have taken on a new meaning i think that verse tells them to KILL us…a muslim scholar was on the radio telling the audience that they are indeed taught this. http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-kills-not-peaceful.htm

  123. Judy Anderson

    Mc Donalds needs to forget their greed and pull their resturaunt chains from the entire country… I myself am offended by the thoughts McDonalds would cave to their whines.. this country has not been taught words are only words..actions speak louder..but then again the politically correct AMERICA once again bows to their whims.

  124. Heidi Vogel

    First of all, we are not AT WAR with the Muslim world – or we SHOULDN'T be… Right now too many "Christians" think it's ok to put a blanket hate over the entire nation of Muhammad… That's probably because the Christian Bible teaches Hate and stoning of anyone not in accordance with the Bible. Our beef should stay with the extreme violent terrorists that are bent on killing for their own ends.

    Matthew is correct in saying that our current president has been accomplishing stuff DESPITE the GOP sabotage "One Term President" plan that's been in effect ever since he was inaugurated. I'm Independent, but for now the Christians are fighting for a Fascist Religious State and they are using the GOP as their political party of choice. So at this time I am voting Democrat across the board because I can't even trust a third-party candidate (Palin & her Tea Partiers are really wacked) just like when Ralph Nader ran for presidency.

    Any one for Freedom of ALL our RIGHTS must vote Democrat this time around. Religion has no place in government policy. We live in a SECULAR country -> not Iran!!!

    BTW, most US based news stations are scewed… If you want the REAL news you go to Reuters, BBC, Australian World News, Al Jazeera and Casey's Report…

  125. Heidi Vogel

    Please, how many Planned Parenthood clinics have been bombed in this country by Christians? How many unarmed and innocent people were beaten/stabbed/shot to death because they did not pass the litmus test of what the Bible says is righteous?

    How many Christians still say that the US should just drop a nuke and destroy them all? Anyone who says that is MORE violent in their intentions as those screaming for head choppings because that would destroy men, women, children, unborn children (so I guess Pro-Lifers don't think fetuses in the womb of Muslim women don't have a right to life) AND all the wildlife in the area? Oh and don't forget the WWWIII casualties that will result of such blatant mass murder.

  126. Heidi Vogel

    Matthew Graham Fahey – You know… The way Joe is acting, I'm wondering if he's doing some sort of COMICAL portrayal of an Extreme Christian Fanatic and is actually an Atheist like me… His answers are so asinine and circular and full of rhetoric that I am starting to think he doesn't even believe in what he's writing… He's just doing a non-serious version of the Xtian Troll…

    Oh andMatt, if all Christians were as logical as you then I'd have no problem with anyone having faith in their own spirituality. Just too bad people cannot separate their Physical life from their Spiritual. Sad they people can't just keep their gods to themselves and let everyone just follow the concept of treating everyone with the same respect and consideration as you would want for yourself.

  127. Pat Ansers

    So, we should just sit back and let them keep attackingus, is that it? Seems like that's what you want lol! What would you say if the Muslim world was at war WITH us? Who would have to tell you to believe it? Al Jazeera? Reuters? Let's see, why don't you tell me how many Christians have been stoned lately for committing–adultery peraphs-then the US would pretty much be DE-populated, don't ya think? You Bible haters are always referring to Leviticus and Deuteronomy, yet you forget there are SIXTY SIX books in the Bible–did you forget the Gospels, and the LOVE that Jesus preached? Of course you did.
    As for the "one term" president–many a democrat has said this, and it's not just the GOP–the BIG BUSINESS GUYS–Steve Jobs, Wynn, et al…those guys are DEMOCRATS??? Btw, sweetie, if you read the letters and papers of the founding fathers and company you'll find that they were putting God in our country–it's you liberals that don't want God in our country. I agree to a certain extent that religion, i.e. Sunday school type stuff or indoctrination shouldn't be taught in schools, as that' the parents job and their church home, but look what has happened to our society WITHOUT God…btw, hopefully you don't wince every time you see the words "In God We Trust" on the currency..and btw, there is God mentioned in many a government spot, i.e the Speaker's Rostrum.

  128. Heidi Vogel

    Just having the name "Pat Ansers" Answers EVERYTHING…

  129. Heidi Vogel

    Pat Ansers – Oh and the money with which you speack has an EGYPTIAN Pyramid with the all seeing Eye of Horus… "The vestiges of pagan religion in Christian symbology are undeniable. Egyptian sun disks became the halos of Catholic saints. Pictograms of Isis nursing her miraculously conceived son Horus became the blueprint for our modern images of the Virgin Mary nursing Baby Jesus. And virtually all the elements of the Catholic ritual – the miter, the altar, the doxology, and communion, the act of "God-eating" – were taken directly from earlier pagan mystery religions." (godisimaginary.com)

    Since the Free Masons claim blood ties to the ones who built the Egyptian pyramids, one must wonder WHICH God they are referring to… Is it teh nameless God in the Bible or the God Osiris or Horus?

  130. Heidi Vogel

    Let's check out the Bible shall we?

    Numbers 31:7-18 ->

    "…They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.

    Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves…"

    Deuteronomy 20:10-14 ->

    "… As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you…"

    Deuteronomy 22:28-29 ->

    "… If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her…"

    Deuteronomy 22:23-24 ->

    "… If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife…"

    Zechariah 14:1-2 ->

    "…Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city…"

    I can keep on going how the Bible's God had people plunder, pillage, rape and murder those who were not their people…. However, it's practically a waste of time. You Christians are so deluded you actually believe God made rainbows:

    Genesis 9:12-13 "…And God said, "This is the sign of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for all future generations: I set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and the earth…"

    Oh look, here's the hose, I spray the water with my thumb partially on the spout -> sun shines through… I just made a RAINBOW… I must be God….

  131. Pat Ansers

    Once again, mostly OLD TESTAMENT VERSES…btw, do you have a liberal's guide to the negative Bible verses to fight Christians? Can't you realize or are you too stupid that Christians AREN'T practicing that–yet the muslims ARE practicing their word? ARe you that dense? 18 THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED SEVENTY THREE people have been KILLED since 9/11 by the MUSLIMS! When you can show me a link that compares to mine and these peopel are killing in the the name of Christianity, then we'll see…http://thereligionofpeace.com/

  132. Pat Ansers

    Wow, your brilliance just astounds me…you got the gist of my name! lmao! However, let me say that I WON'T answer something I DON'T know about without researching it first.

  133. Pat Ansers

    Heidi Vogel Ask a Mason and he'll tell you–however I see that you ignored the fact that God is in many places in government and you just mention the one dollar bill l…WHAT ABOUT THE REST of the currency? –Let me name some examples for you–The Declaration of Independence, the Constitution (along with each individual state's constitution),many of the Founding Fathers' speeches…about 25% of the US Capitol's statuary incorporates a religious message, including a statue of Father Juipero Serra holding a cross in his hands, as well as Marcus Witman, a missionary, carrying a Bible in his hand.
    A 14×20 ft painting of the baptism of Pocahontas is located in the Capitol Rotunda, as well as Pilgrims at Prayer and Christopher Columbus holding a cross while praying with his crew. As stained glass window showing Washington seeking Divine guidance is in the Congressional chapel. A line from Psalm 16:1 is etched into the stained glass. Moses is depicted in the House of Representatives.

  134. Pat Ansers

    Really, now…What purpose would they have to intentionally INSULT someone's religion when they're trying to make money from them? That would NOT be a good marketing tactic lol! And by what evidence do you have that would make you so sure it's intentional? Btw, Heidi, do you read Arabic?

  135. Heidi Vogel

    Ummm… Jesus stated that he was not there to change what his father had laid out before… So yes, the 1st testament DOES apply. ESPECIALLY when Creationists use it to try and debunk Darwinism.

    BTW, IF Christians insist that the 1st Testament no longer applies, then Moses's 10 Commandments do not exist, Noah did NOT save two of every animal on a big barge during the GREAT FLOOD and people can have sex with anything they want. Oh and women are EQUAL to men and are not the root of all evil.

    Nyah Nyah… TPPPTTT!

  136. Pat Ansers

    Joe, with the way Heidi Vogel is defending the muslims to the teeth makes one think that she thinks every Christian is evil! Maybe Heidi should watch the video of Nick Berg being decapitated…how about looking at some pictures of children decapitated or women with acid thrown on them because they didn't want to participate in the arranged marriage? How about that Heidi? When's the last time you've seen Christians do this to anyone? Yeah, every time I see the news or walk out in the street I have to step over dead headless bodies.

  137. Heidi Vogel

    It doesn't have to be the entire company. Just needs to be one or two on the production line… Ever heard of all those naughty things done in Walt Disney movies?

    Or how about the fact that disgruntled Microsoft Employees took advantage of flawed programming to make little annoying virus's just to get revenge?

    People do stupid insensitive things ALL the time. Even if they think they are "good Christians".

  138. Pat Ansers

    Heidi your ignorance is really showing. Did you flunk reading comprehension? Do you know that "race" and "species" are TWO DIFFERENT things? If someone calls a person a "dog" what does that have to do with race? If a person is "racist" that means that he believes his RACE (not his species) is SUPERIOR to the other person of a different race. Now, if he hated women…well, that has to do with SPECIES…got it? Typical liberal mantra AGAIN…using the word "racist" and it has nothing to do with race.
    Here are the definitions sweetie…"ra·cism [ ráy sìzzəm ]
    animosity toward other races: prejudice or animosity against people who belong to other races
    belief in racial superiority: the belief that people of different races have different qualities and abilities, and that some races are inherently superior or inferior"
    spe·cies [ sp sheez ]
    taxonomic group: a subdivision of a genus considered as a basic biological classification and containing individuals that resemble one another and may interbreed
    organisms in species: the organisms belonging to a species
    humankind: human beings or the human race
    So please learn these…geez!

  139. Pat Ansers

    Daniel Giovelli you're not racist, Heidi just doesnt' know what the word means.

  140. Pat Ansers

    What makes you think it's NOT mere coincidence? Do you read Arabic? Have you read OTHER articles where muslims get very inflamed for the most minor of things, YET they have no problems with putting a picture of Jesus's head with the crown of thorns on where a PIG's head goes? And you know they ABHOR pigs…but I guess that's okay with you…but let's say it really is a faux pas…yes, they DO have every right to get angry, I agree with you there, Heidi, but I think what's going on here is that people are very tired of their hypocrisy and their crying wolf so many times. Some woman who named her teddy bear Mohammed got death threats!

  141. Heidi Vogel

    Pat Ansers – "Should I even call THEM People"

    If you don't get that as being racist -> then you are so ignorant that you don't know you ARE racist.

  142. Pat Ansers

    You keep saying the same thing, Heidi…please take into account what Lauren has commented…and also the many stories of the muslims KILLING people if they even THINK they've been insulted!

  143. Heidi Vogel

    Here's the thing. There are always going to be religious zealots who are going to get their underwear in a knot at any conceived insult to their "precious" god. HOWEVER, deriding one particular religion for this issue is the height of hypocrisy especially when Christians are fighting tooth and nail in America for a Fascist God Fearing State.

  144. Heidi Vogel

    You should hear how many peeps have said just NUKE them all…

    Sounds pretty insulting to me… I'm sure you've heard it too.

    Personally, getting all upset over imaginary beings is beyond insane. Just wish you Christians could just see how hypocritical you really are.

  145. Pat Ansers

    and the muslims AREN'T hypocritical? One doesn't have to be Christian, Muslim, Hindu or whatever to be hypocritical…but you seem to think only the Christians are. hell, I'm sure atheists are hypocritical in some things as well! So, are you saying that the Christians are getting upset over imaginary beings or the muslims? just wanna make sure I'm getting the right context of your comment. …and like I said before there is proof that Jesus existed…but now there is proof that Muhammed DIDN'T…so I'm sure the author of that book will have to go into hiding as well. Do you know who Salmon Rushdie, Theo Van Gogh, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Walid Shoebat are?

  146. Cire O'Donley

    Heidi Vogel I would like to add something that has a huge effect on how people see this. When south park made fun of jesus what happened, basically nothing. yet when south park tried the same thing with Muhammed they got death and bomb threats galore. now it is never right to have any one make fun of anyone's beliefs or non-beliefs but Muslims in the news always tend to be followed by bomb threats. I am also sure that peoples opinions would be different if the name were clear. if we could recognize it as Muhammed then people would feel different but after looking at the other pic's there are differences that someone using that language would not make. it's like if some Cristian came in here and tried saying it was jesus in cursive people would be writing the same things.

  147. Pat Ansers

    Nyah Nyah back to you lol! How juvenile! Here you go with your words again…if somehting doesn't APPLY, it doesn't mean it doesn't EXIST! Now, you bring up a very good point, Heidi…that Christians are saying the Old Testament does NOT apply, however, the Bible scholar you THINK you are…Jesus DOES mention the OLD Testament rules to be followed in the NEW testament, so back at ya!

  148. Lauren Janell

    Heidi Vogel You call Christians hypocritical, yet muslims are trying to make everyone believe that they're so pious and civilized, while at the same time they're marrying and having sex with little girls, punishing rape victims, claiming to treat women as equals but keeping them subservient, etc..

  149. Cire O'Donley

    Heidi Vogel I would like to add something that has a huge effect on how people see this. When south park made fun of jesus what happened, basically nothing. Yet when south park tried the same thing with Muhammed they got death and bomb threats galore. now it is never right for anyone to make fun of anyone else’s beliefs or non-beliefs but Muslims in the news always tend to be followed by bomb threats. I am also sure that people’s opinions would be different if the name were clear. If we could recognize it as Muhammed then people would feel different but after looking at the other pic's there are differences that someone using that language would not make. It’s like if some Christian came in here and tried saying it was jesus in cursive, people would be writing the same things.

  150. Pat Ansers

    …and aren't you being the judge and jury…who said that the people who did this ARE Christians? Rather accusatory aren't you? I'm wondering if you used to be Christian and you belonged to some crazy sect and that's what turned you against Christianity…I've met some like that…but maybe you have a "politically incorrect guide for fighting Christians" and that's where you got your Bible verses.

  151. Pat Ansers

    Listen, I wouldn't call anyone who beheads people, mutilates female genitals, is allowed to have sex with their wife's corpse,thighing of children, stoning people and killing people because they're GAY, PEOPLE either! Apparently you didn't watch the videos I put up…what's the matter don't want to see the truth? Yep, there's pictures of women being stoned, gays being killed, women about to be beheaded…I'll never forget the video I saw on the news taken from a cell phone of some poor 17 year old being stoned by a mob of MEN for being in LOVE with a male of another RELIGION…she was lying there on the pavement, blood pouring from her head, while (get this) the police stood by and did NOTHING! Nice PEOPLE aren't THEY???

  152. Pat Ansers

    …and OMT thing Sweetie, I'm bi-racial (two races) and my children are multi-racial as I had married someone OUTSIDE my race…so there blows your impression of me being racist! But let's clarify…people CAN'T help what color skin they're born in–we can agree with that I'm sure…however, people CAN help what cultrue they embrace. For example, let's look at the black race. I have a girlfriend who is black and chooses to listen to ROCK music, dress normally, (meaning no multi-colored weaves) talk English and NOT ebonics, etc…then you have blacks that sag their pants, can't speak english worth a damn (may I aks you if we be going somewhere?) Yes, they DO talk like that! I've had friends that do…and then let's look at some of the muslims…the ones that live in Dubai, or let's say the U for the most part AREN'T INTO WEARING THE BURKA, but wear makeup, dresses, etc…the guys treat the women with respect…but THEN you have the radicals and then there are the ones who don't necessarily practice their faith but their CULTURE dictates that they DOMINATE women…believe me I know…I've dated a few Middle Easterners and after the nicey nice, they try that crap with me and I"m OUT of there…(oh gee, didn't you say I'm racist…yet here I am having dated middle easterners, hmmm)…these are the SUBCULTURE and it's THIS of every different race that get stereotyped and it's this subculture that most people of different races DON'T LIKE. I think I have room to talk about this as I'm not one single race and most people don't look at me as white.

  153. Pat Ansers

    Do you even know what the word Fascist means? I haven't heard Romney say he was going to bring prayer or creationism teachings back to the school…btw, a question for you? Do you think there should be prayer in school…any kind of prayer.

  154. Pat Ansers

    …so Heidi, what is Sharia finance/islamic banking?

  155. Pat Ansers

    I remember that Cire! Also, Theo Van Gogh had a dagger plunged into his heart for making a movie about islam, and wrapped around the handle of the knife was Ayaan Hirsi Ali's name saying she was next. I don't know of anyone walking around in fear of their lives with bodyguards to protect them from crazy Christians lol! Heidi, you should educate yourself and look up these people. Geert Wilders also has to have 24/7 bodyguards too…

  156. Pat Ansers

    btw, Heidi, MUSLIM is an adherent of the religion of ISLAM…muslim is NOT the religion…

  157. Psyk Pyrate

    sorry Heidi, if you ever leave the United States and travel to fundamental islamic countries they will tell you something different. Heretic means someone going against the dogmatic belief, not specific to christianity. The god of Islam is not the God of Christians and Jews and if I may, Jews do not believe in Satan, ask one! Not sure where your getting your info but they hide it in books nowadays.

  158. Heidi Vogel

    Psyk Pyrate – Jewsih religion = 1st Testament = angels & satan… Just because people are now becoming aware that old superstitious ways are bunk does not mean that the original followers of that specific religion did not believe in all that imaginary beings nonsense. Muhammad's god IS the same god… But most Muslims are just like most Jewish and most Christians in that they believe with blind faith and don't even bother to study the history of their own religion.

  159. David Smith

    Pat Ansers And Christians have killed hundreds of thousands both before and after 911. Only christians have dropped agent orange on village people. Done grotesque experiments on their own people including their own soldiers, Dropped Atom bombs on civilians, kidnapped, murdered and enslaved millions of Africans..Take the plank out of your own eye…Everybody knows Christians are the very last people you turn to when you need human kindness help and affection..horrible people generally.

  160. Anonymous

    It's important that we keep caving in to muslim demands, no matter how trifling and regardless of how ridiculous. As we can see, muslims do not like humour or anything that 'insults'; their 'prophet' and will take offence at the most innocuous and inadvertent mistake by unbelievers who can, in some cases, be killed for their transgressions.
    So, keep on apologising, keep on respecting the fragile 'sensitivities' of our muslim friends…it may just save your life!

  161. Michael Troup

    For a religion that demand western tolerance of their lifestyle and practices, they sure are intollerant. But it is not about tolerance- it is about establishing a global caliphate…

  162. Matthew Graham Fahey

    what an impartial source you have cited there. Christians were not part of early islamic conflict, literal PAGANS were.

    as long as we are discussing chrstian failings, i have a question Pat, is America a christian nation

  163. Matthew Graham Fahey

    what an impartial source you have cited there. Christians were not part of early islamic conflict, literal PAGANS were.

    as long as we are discussing chrstian failings, i have a question Pat, is America a christian nation

  164. Pat Ansers

    Liberals never think o f this country as a Christian nation, and the president is Christian in name only-how does a real crhristian condone abortion and homosexuality…See this article..I'm providing excerpts from it…
    "The article as it stands merely says that the government of America is not founded on the Christian religion. This does not mean that the American social/political network was not founded with Christian principles of mind, or that the peoples of America were not Christian to some degree; it merely addresses the government of America. Why? …"

    " You make an excellent point when you note that the disputed Article 11 says the government of the United States is not founded upon the Christian religion. The government is not the nation, and the government of the United States is not the same as the state and local governments. In adopting the First Amendment, the Founders clearly intended that there be no established religion at the national level, but they left the states free to have their own establishments. A primary reason for the adoption of the First Amendment establishment clause was the different establishments at the state level — Congregationalists in New England, Anglicans in the South, Baptists in Rhode Island, Catholics in Maryland, Quakers in Pennsylvania, etc. If I had been a Senator at the time of the ratification of the Treaty of Tripoli, I might have raised my eyebrows at the wording of Article 11, but I probably wouldn't have considered the statement categorically false. The statement does not directly contradict my understanding that the United States was founded upon Biblical values that were brought to America largely by Christians. "

  165. Pat Ansers

    nd…" Those who cite the Treaty of Tripoli as evidence that this nation was not founded on the Christian religion, usually ignore the Treaty of Paris of 1783. This Treaty, negotiated by Ben Franklin and John Adams among others, is truly a foundational document for the United States, because by this Treaty Britian recognized the independence of the United States. The Treaty begins with the words, "In the Name of the most holy and undivided Trinity… ," and there is no dispute about its validity or its wording."
    http://www.tektonics.org/qt/tripoli.html

    -JPH
    Treaty of Tripoli. Article 11. Christian nation phrase
    http://www.tektonics.org
    In a late 18th century treaty reached by America with certain Muslim pirates of the African coast, one part of which, Article 11, states:

  166. Matthew Graham Fahey

    ok so yes, then let us then lay at the feet of this christian nation all the crimes she has committed, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, trail of tears, and many more. Christianity isnt looking so great now.

  167. Matthew Graham Fahey

    btw i am a christian. just so you know better than to try and make some baseless attack

  168. Pat Ansers

    i know you're Christian…I've read your stuff before. Btw, mr. Brilliant, WWII wasn't fought on the grounds of Christianity. There was no religious basis to the events you mentioned. With Hiroshima and Nagasaki, there were about 180K dead…but I guess all the people the Japanese slaughtered before hand was okay? Men, women and children being raped and killed by them was okay? I could show you some really gruesome pics, Matthew of their privates stabbed with a bamboo spike, but hey that's okay right? The death march of Bataan, the comfort women, etc…all okay with you? How about if we committed more ground troops and a MILLION MORE people get killed, is that okay with you? How about the Japanese strapping their kids with TNT to blow up Sherman tanks, is that okay? Sure it is! Kill as many Christians as you can, white ones especially. Don't give me any garbage about the japanese, my mom is Korean and lived during those times and there aren't any nice stories on Japanese treatment of them. War is war, and unless your'e muslim, they're NOT fought in the name of God

  169. Dario Impini

    After its discovery by Saudi Muslim authorities they lunched several campaigns against the restaurant “in response to the savage attacks on the noble prophet”.

    They "lunched", LOL. Freudian slip.

  170. Dario Impini

    After its discovery by Saudi Muslim authorities they lunched several campaigns against the restaurant “in response to the savage attacks on the noble prophet”.

    They "lunched", LOL. Freudian slip.

  171. Heidi Vogel

    Here's the thing – there are approx 310million peeps in the USA as per the 2010 census with 10% being Muslim.

    If Muslims were inherently violent then where are the 30 million incidents of bombings?

    Instead we get bombings from Christian sorts -> especially against Planned parenthood Clinics which are there for women's right to healthcare.

  172. Pat Ansers

    women's rights to healthcare…you mean a woman's 'RIGHT' to kill her unplanned child, right?..and just how many bombings has there been? Did you know that there have been over 19 THOUSAND terror attacks in the name of islam since 9/11? Did you know that that film is really just a front for our govt's ineptness at foreign policy, especially in the ME? That was a really good trick Hillary did by sending a GAY man to be an ambassador in a country that DOESN'T condone gays…but you probably get spoon fed what the LSM wants you to listen to, so go figure…One more thing, …i guess you're okay with Christians being crucified, right? Right! http://www.christianstogether.net/Articles/323418/Christians_Together_in/Christian_Life/Current_News/Christians_crucified_in.aspx

  173. Tony Carney Jnr

    why not honour the muslims and make a mc donalds halal happy meal ? a 6 year old inflatable aisha covered in school dinners :D allah be praised!

  174. Tony Carney Jnr

    well maybe mcdonalds good also do a pope mobile in a christian happy meal that runs on the tears of abbused altar boys?