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Joel Osteen Tells Oprah Winfrey That Being Gay is a Sin [Video]

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Joel Osteen, the mega church pastor and author of Your Best Life Now, recently sat down with Oprah Winfrey on her Oprah’s Next Chapter show on OWN to talk homosexuality, sin and heaven.

Unsurprisingly, he caused a wave of controversy in the process.

When asked by Oprah if he believes that homosexuals will be able to enter into heaven’s gates, the 46-year-old, always smiling pastor responded:

“I believe they will…You have to have forgiveness for your sins, but sometimes we look at gay being, you know, a bigger sin than being proud or being, you know, not telling the truth.

“I don’t think God categorizes sins. To think we are all going to be without one sin; I hope that’s true, but I don’t think any of us would make it to heaven.”

Osteen then added that he would encourage people to be willing to change and grow, a remark that immediately prompted Oprah to ask:

“Does that mean that you’re saying that being gay is a sin?”

This time, Osteen referred to Gods word, (something he is often accused of neglecting during his preaching) pointing out that homosexuality is a sin according to the bible.

“I believe that homosexuality is shown as a sin in the Scripture, I do,” Osteen explained. “I’m for everybody. I’m not against anybody. I don’t think anybody is second class, but when I read the scripture, with good faith, I can’t see that it doesn’t show that that is not a sin.”

Check out the Osteen-Oprah exchange on Homosexuality in the video clip below (skip to :55) and chime in with your thoughts on the subject in the comments.

In addition to Homosexuality, Osteen and Oprah discussed a number of topics including the prosperity gospel (the teaching that financial blessing is the will of God for Christians), criticisms that he waters down the true message of Jesus, and the controversial question of “Are there many ways to God?”

The additional clips of Joel Osteen’s Oprah appearance can be viewed below.

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383 Responses to “Joel Osteen Tells Oprah Winfrey That Being Gay is a Sin [Video]”

  1. Ron Donaghe

    I am getting so sick and tired of hearing the fundamentalists separate the "sin" of homosexuality from the gay or lesbian person and say they hate homosexuality but love the homosexual? That's an untenable position to take. If they act against homosexuality, they're harming the person who is gay. You can't expect less holy and perfect people, like those in the congregation, to make such a fine distinction—and they don't. That's why sick bullies rove the streets and school hallways to beat up on queers. The churches give them the permission to do so—and even encourage it. I find it very difficult to separate hatred from the religion that preaches it in the pulpit. Further, I don't want your so-called "love." I can't tell the difference between that and your hatred.

  2. Teresa Drake

    He smiles because he has JOY and PEACE.Would you rather he frowned all the time? Your post makes no sense! I agree with him.

  3. Developing your Individual Freedom

    Ron, you can't tell the difference between a Christian man who is honest and real when it comes to the homosexual lifestyle? First of all, I will not compromise when it comes to sin, even though I may fall short everyday, it still doesn't mean I accept it as the norm or as if it is okay, since I commonly stumble. Furthermore, what about when I reach out to help, love and support a homosexual man or woman when he/she needs assistance? I do it, because I love him/her. I am not there to lecture him, I am not there to make him feel bad, but I am there to unconditionally love him and help him in whatever he is reaching out for. The word of God speaks of it in a serious tone, so as a follower of Christ, I take it seriously and will not treat it as a compromised agenda. Ron, if you are a homosexual man, I honestly love you and would be there for you if you were my friend, but I would be real enough to tell you who I am and wouldn't hide my belief.

  4. Vic Gentile

    Doesn't the Bible say its easier for a camel to pass through the eye of needle then it is for a wealthy person to get into heaven?

  5. Hope Unterschuetz

    I love Joel Osteen. I understand why he said that he believes homosexuality is a sin but I do not agree with him. It upsets me because I hate to see homosexual people looked at as sinners for being born the way they are.I don't believe everything the Bible says.I accept other's points of view but those who do not agree with what I believe are fine with me. Each to their own because we all have our own path to live.

  6. Bill Jones

    Heterosexuals focus on the 'sin' of being gay because it's a 'sin' they are INCAPABLE of committing.

    It makes them feel self-righteous and holier-than-thou.

    Seriously, How difficult is it to condemn a 'sin' you'd never even be tempted to commit? I love heterosexuals. Heck, I even have one or two as friends, but for god's sake, this is ALL so transparent.

    If heterosexuals would put the energy into their OWN spouses, families, and lives that they do in condemning their gay children to hell, I'd venture a guess that heterosexuals and their families might be in far better shape than they are today.

    Seriously folks. Enough is enough. Not a single heterosexual would advocate for women to be treated as the bible commands. Or blacks. Or ANYONE else, as we'd ALL have been stoned to death already.

    So why? Why have you let go of ALL of the biblical law that pertains to YOUR lives and YOUR sexuality and YOUR relationships, yet you seem to feel you can enact biblical law against gay people in America?

    A load of crap. You won't get away with it much longer. It'd be nice if you all came to that decent place or fairness and justice on your own, but unfortunately, it looks like you will wait for the Supreme Court smack-down that's in the pipeline this decade.

  7. Josue Arce

    Hi Ron I guess you cant tell the difference between many things that's why you feel the way you do. I cant understand why you think that anyone that does not share your convictions is your enemy, if you don't believe in God well just go about your life and live it as best as you can and let this people believe what they like. Stop pushing your gay agenda find something better to spend your time in like helping the less fortunate, accept yourself for who you are and you will not need anybody else to have to approve of you.

    And your comment (if they act against homosexuality they are harming the person who is gay) is totally inaccurate, homosexuality does not define who you are it is a sexual preference you decide who you are weather you are a caring loving or selfish or a criminal or law bidding citizen it's up to you as a person and further i don't have to agree with you on everything and that does not make me your enemy, your enemy is the person that is trying to kill you and i do not believe that your life is in any danger unless you go around trying to get attention and you run into people who will atack you because you instigated to prove something. Good luck

  8. Tracy McCullough-Shorten

    Thats too bad, because he likes you. I am your sister, he is my brother. Everyone needs to learn that.

  9. Tina Worthey Manuel

    Barry L. Spencer Please read the FACTS about the Bible before you make a statement that is so off. The Bible was written over a 1500 year period by 45 different 'men'. Ranging from scholars to fishermen. The Bible has never been wrong and to date all prophecies have come true. Mary and Joseph riding into Bethlehem to deliver a child who would be called Jesus, was prophesied approx 800 years BEFORE it happened! You can't even get people around a water cooler at work to tell the same story the same DAY without false statements being added or subtracted!! And that's because it's 'mans' words at that point.

    The Bible is the MOST used historical book being used by archeologists, scientists, etc etc.

    There were MORE witnesses to Christs' rise on the 3rd day then Washington crossing the Delaware.

    There is a WHOLE book of facts worth reading within the Bible:

    B asic
    I nstructions
    B efore
    L eaving
    E arth

    ….that can't be discounted. Choose not to believe that Jesus rose from the dead and did what he said he's going to do? …despite the proof that prophecy is STILL being fulfilled?? Then don't. But NO one can discount historical facts that lay within those pages.

    So make fun all you want. But it's at you're own peril…not those who believe.

  10. Charles Curry

    Jesus die on the cross for the sin of the world Repent and sin no more!

  11. Naomi Jean Gray

    I enjoyed the video interview between Pastor Joel Osteen and Oprah.. My respect for Oprah ended long ago when she stated and had a doctor back her up thay over weight people have a mental problem… Then if there was an ounce of respect left for her that ended when she told Jay-Z there is no race issue in the United States of America.. My point of view of Oprah is not the best to be perfectly honest…. Pastor Joel in this interview as in all interviews I've seen was/is excellent and his answers were according to the infallible written word of God.. There is no one that can accuse Pastor Joel of disrespecting them… If there is doubt in anyone as to the stand Pastor Joel has taken… Pray take it up with God.. Pastor Joel is not perfect by any standard.. Pastor Joel is simply a follower of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.. Pastor Joel found himself a wife and has most truly gained favor with God.. Two God fearing people Pastor and Mrs. Joel and Victoria Osteen… May God continue to bless him and his family.. One thing most people do not understand when listening to Pastor Joel is.. If you would read our Holy Bible for yourself… You would know without doubt what Pastor Joel is talking about and where his information comes from though not berbatim… Pastor Joel takes nothing from nor adds anything to the infallible written word of God… Pastor Joel has a gift from God on seeing things as they are and doing and saying things as they ought to be done and said… In simple truth fashion.. Common sense..;o)njg<

  12. Tina Worthey Manuel

    Ron you are so far off the mark. Aside from the 'fringe' in society that ALL groups have…. The 'pulpit' DOES NOT give ANYONE permission to behave like a criminal and berate or hate ANY group of people! Sadly, those who DO behave that way because of their own stupidity. And you CAN'T understand how someone like me can LOVE my homosexual family & friends and CHOOSE not to AGREE with their lifestyle. Unless you understand what God wants and expects and what the Bible teaches vs. the SOUND BITES that most people live by and spout because they won't read the book themselves…..then how COULD you possibly have that kind of mindset to understand how you CAN transcend that kind of love and care for someone? It's no different then I can love my brother the drug user and not be ok with his drug use that's harmful to him. It's amazing how a society expects everyone to jump on some 'approval' bandwagon and yet don't even want to deal with the DANGERS of that lifestyle! AND on top of which they will ignore equally the facts of those who come OUT of a homosexual lifestyle and then make the excuses that they weren't really gay. What? People can't have it both ways.
    And unless you've KNOWN many many people who HAVE come out of that lifestyle and HEAR what they thought about it….how can you JUST berate those who do not agree with it, over another group who EXPECTS everyone to be ok with it?
    Tolerance is ALWAYS expected from one side….amazingly enough. That kind of 'hatred' is no different then what you espoused.

  13. Tina Worthey Manuel

    Barry L. Spencer Thank you Barry, you just proved my point.

  14. Bob Mook

    If he was stright up he would tell his so called people the truth.He wouldn call god buy his name & not his title as there are many gods-1st corth 8/5 Our gods true name is YAHWEH & he says in the bible "my NAME is a memorial to you.No where in the bible does it say it dosen't matter what you call me any name you want. Many say it doesen't matter what you call him he knows who you are.Fiddlesticks–I'll eat the page if you can find it in the bible.

  15. Joseph Sherrick

    Joel was only going by what he reads in the script of the bible. He said he respects and loves everyone and wouldn't ever put someone 2nd class because of their sexuality. Joel is a follower in Jesus Christ, so of course hes going to agree being gay is a sin. People need to get a life and stop trying to put Joel down because he is actually trying to better this world and get rid of all the toxic out there.

  16. Kelly Lucero

    Barry L. Spencer weird the gospels and pauls writings are quoted by people of the 1st and second centuries! cling to your liberal bias so you dont have to believe whats in the pages of scriptures

  17. Kameme Cowboy & Girls

    The bible is very clear in the bible read Leviticus 20:13,18:22 and if u say that is old testament read Romans 1:26-28.I don't agree with Pastor Joel on how he handles homosexuality.He contradicts when he is bn interviewed by Oprah.As a man of God who speaks His word should not talk like he is fearing oprah! Hey come on! Hit the nail on top! If u be ashamed of God, He will also be ashamed of you.Homosexuality, lesbianism is a sin period! You should tell them that instead of covering them and taking them to hell.Show them the right way or their blood will be upon you for failing to tell them so! If they repent and become a born again christian they will go to heaven but not the way they are now.God created human beings equal but the devil came at night and changed the feelings.Feelings does not associate with person from birth but is something which comes on the way.Deliverence is the way to change homosexual and lesbian to normal feelings and Jesus is the only way period!

  18. Kelly Lucero

    Barry L. Spencer no proof? you go to College? ask a scholar if there is no proof that attests to the Bible. Israel is a fake country right?

  19. CV Conner

    Kinda sounds like an insane person. A man of God is happy and smiling and tell others to be happy and you don't trust him? I wonder if you're married and if so I rellay feel for your husband. He sure better not smile around you.

  20. Sam Okwaraji

    Is there any scientific proof to back your assertion that gay people were born that way? being gay is a sexual preference, as to when an individual arrives at the stage where he says he has a strong sexual attraction to a member of the same sex is still up for debate. Since u claim u dont believe everything the bible says then it would be hard for anyone to convince u about behavioural patterns that the bible calls sin. God speed!

  21. CV Conner

    Very interesting, you don't believe everything the Bible says. I was thinking that to believe only parts of the Bible is like saying "Look, I know better than the Bible, so I'll believe this scripture but not that one. If you can do that then why even refer to the Bible at all because really you're not believing – you're only agreeing with the parts that echo what you already believe. Show me one lie in the Bible and I will discredit and not believe any of it. But then again, that just me speaking as a Bible believer.

  22. Stacy Suniga

    Ron, you are exactly and factually right. Tina, you need to open your eyes to the "truth" on many levels. Churches preach a gospel that harms gays and many pastors are unfactual and unknowing about the history of the bible and the fallablility of it. If they are in the know, may God save their souls. History proves that the Bible was edited many times, even the scriptures that Jesus used, the Septuagint, is not the bible that we have today. Many of the books that were considered inspired when Jesus was using it in the temple were thrown out at the Councel of Jamnia by a Jewish counsel in about 70 ad. More books were thrown out by the Councel of Nicea around 400AD by the newly legalized Christian church under the order Emporer Constantine, and then New Testament books were thrown out at the reformation, by none other than Mr reformer, Martin Luther. There were some guidelines for this action, such as timing of the writing, whether or not an orginal was on hand, some were even eliminated because of the language that they were written in. I believe honestly, that some of the truth is that they were eliminated because the writings did not agree with a certain details that went against a certain belief.. talk about cramming God into a box and speaking for him. I even get mad at the mistranslation that some common current versions use to propogate their beliefs. Dont believe me, pull out an original greek bible, get a kione greek dictionary to translate it and then compare to your own version and others. You will be surprised at the liberties that are taken with word defination and the differences of words chosen for each version, that accomodates the beliefs of the audience of each translation. NIV for Protestants and NAB for Catholics. Lets not even get into the versions of bible that there are for Mormons or Jehovahs Witnesses. All professed Christian faiths. Ilove the bible and have studied it extensively in biblical colleges, etc., and find it to be a fascinating bundle of books. (Bible means "books") I believe it is Gods love letters to us and like Christ, tells us how to love others, and how to be at peace with him in that love. , Jesus talks more about the demise of those who judge and condemn, neglect care and hospitalty, and act as thou they are more important than even the lowest among us.. who are the highest with him, right. Remember the first shall be last and the last first? Find one, just one condemnation of Jesus against homosexuals. when you do, then I will believe that homosexuals are sinners. Until then, it is those who condemn homesexuals who are in sin in my eyes and in Jesus' words. Factual data!.

  23. Ramon Trevino Jr

    Joel Osteen is a great man of God spreading the love that Jesus Christ wants all christians to do but you will always have those that do not care for him and what he preaches of the word of God. It is up to us to pray for those and continue to spread the love of God. Its not easy being a christian and we all our sinners but its the love and forgiveness of God that keeps us strong in our everyday events that we face. Love your brother and sister and continue to pray for our country and world. To God be the Glory…

  24. Vicky Ford

    I just don't believe that anyone was "Born that way"…………Why would God destroy two cities for homosexuality and then create someone gay?

  25. Anonymous

    Barry L. Spencer you feel the same about those that believe in the existance in aliens?

  26. Stacy Suniga

    Remember when preachers in the South were preaching that the bible said that modern day slavery was ok and a right given by God? Then when christians used the bible to presecute Jews? no difference here folks. Using the bible to condemn others is wrong and a blatant misuse of Gods word. Name a bigger sin than using God as your excuse to hate or treat others as "less than" Hard to believe that there could be anything that could piss Him off more. Your interpretation is incorrect and your not paying attention to our founder, Jesus, if you use it to hate, harm, and condemnation as a part of your following Him. CV, you are not following every tenet demanded in the bible so dont go there. Do you eat shellfish or pork? Do you wear garments of different cloths? Converse with a Samaritan, gentile or are you either one of these? I could go on. If you do any of this you are picking and choosing what you believe in the bible, because the punishment for any of these is consequencial in the Bible.. including death for some. So then bible believer, you better find another avenue for your apologetic, cuz that dog dont hunt!

  27. Matt Lord

    Tina if your basis for proving the difference between God's words and man's words is "the same story…without false statements being added or subtracted", perhaps you should read your Bible again.

    Genesis 1.20-27 says living creatures of every kind were created before humankind and that birds were brought forth from the waters.
    Genesis 2.4-19 God created man and then he created every living creature, and birds were formed of the ground.

    Genesis 6.19 God tells Noah to bring two of every kind into the ark (male and female).
    Genesis 7.2 God tells Noah to bring seven pairs of all clean animals and birds of the air.

    Matthew 5 says Jesus gave his sermon up on a mountain, where Luke 6.17 says he stood on a level place. Also, whose is the kingdom of God/heaven – the poor or the poor in spirit?

    There are tons of these contraindications and a study of them reveals that they weren't simple translation errors but the actual agendas of each author. Who Wrote the Bible by Friedman is a great place to start if you're interested.

  28. Barry L. Spencer

    Tina Worthey Manuel So Tina. Are you saying that the proof of these things in the bible is bacause it says so in the bible? Kelly. You are not making any sense. Karen. I am an atheist, formerly catholic. Kenny and Page. I personaly need proof of the existence of "aliens". You can believe in whatever you want; that does not make it true.

  29. Kelly Lucero

    Matt Lord are you making an assumption that those sermons in Matt and Luke are the same…He preached for three years, im guessing it wouldnt be too hard to preach two different sermons that are similar..what he taught is cohesive and coherent with one another… your assumption has led you to believe that it is a contradiction

  30. Anonymous

    All are invited to come to the Lord, with repentance , and seek forgiveness and guidance. You get the beginning to a new life now. Taste and see that the Lord is good…peace.

  31. Hope Unterschuetz

    CV: The Bible is full of contradictions. I respect other's right to their beliefs. In fact i don't even wish to debate. I am aware that many people are fixated on the book and not the journey.No one really knows the story till we die and meet "God".I like Joel Osteen for his inspiring optimistic messages. There are times i don't agree with his message and i turn it off. But i enjoy watching him most of the time.

  32. Anonymous

    ron do you think the bullies you talk about are any less offensive to god than the one being picked on? just because we have love for one that takes that which does not belong to them does not mean we should support laws that support that act. the same with murder, we are to even love one that has ended another's life yet would you support laws to legalize it? many claim to be followers of Jesus, those that pick on others in his name would be wise to read his teachings. but he does tell us to spread his word to all of the world. and as a follower we are required to do so. even if we are thought of as forcing it on people. just as atheists have the right to say what they want so do believers. does not mean either side wont suffer casualties at the hands of the misguided

  33. Mike Lawler

    And the Bible approves of slavery ("slaves obey thy masters"), incest (Lot and his daughters) and women being subservient to their husbands. It also said on the first day of Creation God said, "Let there be light." However, He didn't create the sun until day four. So, did He use fluoescent or incandescent lighting in the meantime?

  34. Garry B. Coston

    @ Barry L. Spencer – The fact that you are breathing is evidence that God exists and is not invisible as you say; and he is more than a "friend," he is your Creator, Father, and God (he is all that exists and he is good with no darkeness, sin or evil in him). Nothing comes from nothing Barry; the universe, the earth, the cosmos, plants, animals, people, me, you, we were created…we didn't just pop up from nothing! Email me if you want to discuss more in private between the two of us (garry_777_2000@yahoo.com). God loves you Barry…more than you will ever know. If you think that when we die that there is nothing more, you will be in for a huge surprise, either for good or damnation. He (God) wants you to come back to him and live with him Barry for all eternity when you leave this earthly body…if you reject him, don't believe in him, or even hate him, he will still love you but he has no choice but to not allow you to go back home to live with him when you leave your earthly body (when you die). Barry; Jesus was God in the flesh. Being that our first parents chose the wrong thing for all of our generation, the only solution was for God to live 33 years in the flesh, experience everything that we experience daily (good, bad, sin, etc.), and then allow himself to be killed and sacrificed on a cross (tree) for all of us (mankind). Can you imagine God, perfect, all good, with no sin, living in our lowly human bodies and dying and sacrificing himself on that cross in our place? He did it for us Barry so that all we have to do is believe on Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, and we will be saved (yes from hell), and will go back home to be with God forever when we leave our earthly bodies (when we die). He loves you Barry. Don't refuse his free gift of salvation…it costs nothing Barry, it is free, it is undeserved but he still graciously offers it to us, and it should have been us on that cross, with no hope, damned for all of eternity; why? Because God is without sin and we are full of sin, but he is willing to forgive us of all of our sins if we will confess them to Him (God) through his Son Jesus Christ, and accept Him (Jesus) as Lord, God and Savior. The Bible says: "Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the Father (God) except by Him (Jesus); that is the only way we will be saved! I love you Barry…..

  35. Anonymous

    Matt Lord respectfully I would follow up Friedmans book and then grab most any Bible commentary. Most of all questions you raised are easily explained. Keep rreading your Bible though. It is the most amazing book ever written…peace

  36. Faye Martinez

    wonder if Oprah is gay,she seems so obsessed with it kinda makes you wonder.

  37. Kelly Lucero

    Matt Lord you are assuming that those sermons are the same! Christ preached for three years I dont think it would be that hard to preach two different sermons in that amount of time that are similar…and both of those messages are cohesive and coherent to one another.. your assumptions have led you to believe that this is a clear cut contradiction.

  38. Anonymous

    Mike, I'm not to judge, but I'm not sure your looking for the truth…otherwise you might be asked to step up your actions, "love your neighbor as yourself"…peace

  39. Joe Keenan

    CV Conner How can you call Rebecca "like an insane person" and condemn her for being judgemental of Rev. Osteen and feeling sorry for her husband? Is that not judging Rebecca…and therefore hypocritcal and a personal attack? Not staying to message about Christianity…WWJD?

  40. Anonymous

    Agreed Ron Most people who believe their crapp doesn't stink, feel the same way as you.

  41. Matt Lord

    Carlos Santiago if I hadn't already done what you recommended I wouldn't have posted. Perhaps you should heed your own recommendation, or easily explain the fact that there seem to be two different stories intertwined throughout Genesis without using the Documentary Hypothesis.

  42. Anonymous

    Hope Unterschuetz well is you can name one contradiction it would help us out but thats your call. god bless:)

  43. Colleen Parker

    I have to agree with you. How can a true believer only agree with certain parts of the bible? I believe homosexuality is wrong and that's clearly why God destroyed the two cities in the bible.

  44. Barry L. Spencer

    Vicky. Were you born straight, heterosexual? Did you choose that "lifestyle" or were you born that way? So why would those who are homosexual not be born that way? Could you change your orientation if you wanted to? No. And neither can those born to be homosexual. Homosexuality abounds in the natural world. It is no different with human beings. Your allusion to Sodom and Gomorrah is very telling. Something that more than likely never happened you use as fact to explain your beliefs. The world would be much better off without religious nonsense clouding ones thoughts.

  45. Joe Keenan

    CV Conner The Bible calls for killing homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13). Are you going to interpret it differently and if so how? It also calls for the killing of adulterers, of those who chose a different God, for those who curse their parents, and so on. Man, gonna get lonely around here on the Net with all of these stonings…

  46. Robbin Jacobs

    I guess he got a lot of s……after he took a pro gay position this past summer and as most people do like him, cave like a fledgling when dealing with the fall out. So much for the man of g-d.

  47. Anonymous

    Stacy Suniga many things are done in the name of god, not all are pleasing to him. many will use him to push there own agenda. all sins are equal in his eyes and all people are sinners, only one sin is unforgivable. if one decides to willingly practice sin it is between them and god. he does not command us to judge but spread his word.

  48. Hope Unterschuetz

    Joe Keenan : Yes and then it also says "Thou Shalt Not Kill". The Bible is full of them.

  49. Robbin Jacobs

    Or very embarrassed. If I were him, which I would never be, I would be very embarrassed as he speaks out of both sides of his mouth.

  50. Anonymous

    Barry L. Spencer yet you believe there is no God without undebatable 100% proof? how does that work? i would think that if you are against believing things without proof you would object both sides. God bless!!

  51. Joe Keenan

    Josue Arce " i do not believe that your life is in any danger unless you go around trying to get attention and you run into people who will atack you because you instigated to prove something". Could you please clarify your statement. Are you saying that people will kill you for being gay if you go around acting gay (or different from their norm) or trying to "instigating to prove something"? Your statement is dangerous in that I see no condemnation of those who would taunt or physically harm another human being. Perhaps I'm interpreting your writing incorrectly. Would you be kind enough to expand on what you meant?

  52. Chris Sizemore

    Repent that means turn from if you believe the Word of God Then you will repent and then be baptized and you will be a new Person OLD THINGS PASSED AWAY! REPENT! No Homosexual will be in Heaven! But those that overcome the lust of the flesh lust of the eyes and the pride of life They will be able to enter in.Read the Bibile Kjv The real one!

  53. Philip Dodson

    I find it kind of funny when you disagree with some people that they want to call it hate instead of disagreement When in turn their just as hateful as the people they accuse of being hateful, if you want to be above the people that you say hate you? Then love them and not hate them ALSO IN THE BIBLE.

  54. Joe Keenan

    Faye Martinez Wonder if Rick Santorum is gay, he seems so obsessed with it kinda makes you wonder. Fixed your statement. Doesn't make it any more factual or less intimating, does it??

  55. Anonymous

    Joe Keenan and when they brought an adulterer to Jesus to ask what should be done to her. he said, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

  56. Lori Sea

    hope, your post states that gays are "born" that way…WRONG!!!!. the bible says Leviticus 18:22
    English Standard Version (ESV)

    22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
    Cross references:Leviticus 18:22 : Lev 20:13; [Gen. 19:5; Judg. 19:22; Rom. 1:27; 1 Cor. 6:9, 10; 1 Tim. 1:9, 10]

    1 Corinthians 6:9-10
    English Standard Version (ESV)

    9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous[a] will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,[b] 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

    Footnotes:
    a.1 Corinthians 6:9 Or wrongdoers
    b.1 Corinthians 6:9 The two Greek terms translated by this phrase refer to the passive and active partners in consensual homosexual acts
    Cross references:1 Corinthians 6:9 : 1Cor 15:50; Gal. 5:21; Eph. 5:5; 1 Tim. 1:9; Heb. 12:14; 13:4; Rev. 21:8; 22:15

    now, let me say that God did not, could not and would not go against His word. He cannot say that homosexualty is an abomination and then make a person be borned that way. the bible also instructs us that we shouldnt hate the sinner but the sin and for us to pray for people and let God change them. He wants us to come as we are and allow Him to change us for His glory.

  57. CV Conner

    Joe Keenan Well, I didn't call Rebecca anything, and you would notice that had you read the reply instead of looking for an opportunity to take a side. But if you're asking how can I say sounds kinda LIKE an insane person, then my answer is "easy". Go back and read Rebecca's original statement and give it a moment to sink in, "Anyone who smiles that much is hiding something". That indeed sounds insane to me and don't waste your time trying to stun me with the WWJD. I'm not trying to be Jesus, I'm stating a fact. I'm not trying to change either of your faith (or lack thereof), but when you come on a public forum and make a statement as she did don't be too surprised when you're told IT sounds insane. And I agree with Rebecca, we all have our opinion. It's just that some of ours should be kept silent.

  58. Anonymous

    Rodney Steel i pray for you and recomend you study the teachings of christ…..

  59. CV Conner

    Stacy Suniga Very good effort, unfortunately, for me, not so much. When I look at all that you wrote I can understand that you honestly believe that you have a solid ground to stand on, and I applaud you for that. However it does lay into plain view that you're not really that well versed in the scripture, other wise you would not confuse the testaments to make such statements, which by the way are deficient in scholarly attainment. As you could have guessed I am indeed a member of Joel Osteen's church here in Houston, and the author of two bestselling Christian books (both Bible based). So save your time in making off-the-wall comments every time you see a Christian saying what he believes. I say it again for your sake, if you can show me one lie in the Bible then I will refuse to believe any of it. That is a statement not a condemnation. I'll repeat it in Church, in the choir, in the US, and even in Asia.

  60. Giulio Campanelli

    Funny how you take Oprahs comment "personal" and you immediately dismiss her. We are not God fearing people. Some of "us" just have enough common sensne to know that God did NOT write the Bible. It was wrtten by other human beings like you and me. God is the love and respect you give to others regardless of race, ethnicity and sexual orientation. God is pure LOVE.

  61. Joe Keenan

    Tina Worthey Manuel Should we do as the Bible says to do regarding the sin of homosexuality and put the sinner to death? "they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them " Or are we parsing words and condemning the sin but still "loving" the sinner? Fundamentalist Christians believe that every word in the Bible is true (although 99.99% of them have not read the texts in their original languages). So which is it…stone the sin or stone the sinner? Or am I to interpret Leviticus 20:13 as their blood shall be upon them in the Judgement and not on Earth…

  62. Susan Ellison

    Josue Arce Why do you have to be so condescending just because someone doesn't share your view?

  63. Susan Ellison

    Stacy Suniga Finally–someone who knows what they're talking about!

  64. Robbin Jacobs

    I don't hate a person(s) for having a different view point but to put a whole group of people down is what I call down right prejudice and to do it in g-ds name is a gigantic sin in my book and in your book as well.

  65. Joseph Beiro

    Hope, first homosexual's are not born that way. It is a life style which they chose to live. TheBible does say that homosexuality is a sin and any person who is a homosexual is a sinner. The problem with people Christians and non-Christians is that it doesn't matter what they think or what their opinion is on the matter, the important thing is what God says about it. If people would just leave themselves out of the equation and believe what God says about things maybe people would see things God's way.

  66. Barry L. Spencer

    Rodney Steel. My mom is dead you worthless fuckstick. There is no hell dimwit. I'd rather eat a taco than a hotdog. Does that answer your last stupid question? Rodney? That name is queer as fuck.

  67. Joe Keenan

    CV Conner You attacked the messenger not the message. Your first reply to her was a PERSONAL ATTACK questioning her poor husband and her stetement "sounding crazy". I read your first reply carefully before replying. Having read your follow up where you try to spin your first reply stating "LIKE" instead of "being" ( and your second reply is rather confusing as you spin that you were attacking her message as being crazy but then fail to support your questioning her spouse's fate…really CV). This isn't what WWJD do as it is apparent you don't know from your second reply.

  68. Susan Ellison

    Vicky Ford With all due respect Vicky; you know nothing about the bible if that is what you think S & G is about.

  69. Robbin Jacobs

    Bob it seems as if you are a little obsessed with g-d's name. I just don't get what that has to do with anything on this topic.

  70. Anonymous

    Matt Lord and before Christians thought the earth was a few thousand years old. Also many are starting to realize what really happened with Adam, eve and Satan, just like they thought men had one less rib even though it never said rib. Or that heaven is really outer space and not our father’s kingdom. Even in revelations his kingdom will be coming down from the heavens. Our failure to fully comprehend it does not make it contradict itself.
    As everything else we have yet to fully understand and experience like the limits of science, math, chemistry and physics. We are yet to even crawl in space. So because of past times that we realized that we were doing something wrong in those areas would we say science or physics contradicts itself? I would think not. The reason we are here is to prove we will conform to his will on our own and he is not asking much though it is not easy. Also his teachings are to love each other (for starters). Even though many may fail to fully follow his teachings does not mean his ways are evil, but the ways of man are. Not I or any others are without sin.

  71. CV Conner

    Joe Keenan Actually Joe you're half right. I don't know what Jesus would do and neither do you. I'm not trying to do what Jesus would do here, I simply stated what I felt about Rebecca's statement regarding my personal pastor and I still stand by every word I said. Please don't confuse me with someone pretending to know what Jesus would do, that is nothing more than an outdated fad bracelet that so many of you still use to try and put Christians into your little belief about a Christian's actions box, doesn't work on me. I am a Christian living and walking in the real world, and just like you I can make a statement. I'm not going to change Rebecca with my statement and you're not going to change me with yours. But I said it then and I say it again for all your friends who missed it, anyone who thinks a person has something to hide because they smile a lot and try to live a positive life DOES sound insane. Did you get it that time? In fact, anyone who supports a person who would say such sounds almost as insane as the person who said it to me. But hey, that's just my opinion, don't lose any sleep over it okay.

  72. Anonymous

    Joe Keenan as Jesus said let he who is without sin cast the frist stone. there is no sin free people here or anywhere and he made that clear.

  73. CV Conner

    Robbin Jacobs Sorry but I do not wish to talk with you on this okay. Forgive me but just from what I have seen from you so far I know that I have nothing further to say to you about anything, ever. Sorry.

  74. Robbin Jacobs

    Joel Osteen, what happened to that lovely man that was asked if he would attend a gay member of his church's wedding. Where did he go?

  75. Mike Lawler

    Carlos Santiago I am always looking for the truth, which is why I dislike charlatans like Osteen and Robertson and all those who milk money out of folks in the name of God. As for the Bible, "it is a good book, but it is not the only book." (Inherit The Wind).

  76. Joe Keenan

    CV Conner You are still avoiding your original statement. Yes, you said that her comment sounded crazy. That let's you get by without calling it a personal attack or insult…by parsing words. You then you asked if she was married and you felt bad for her husband for having to deal with her. That is a PERSONAL ATTACK and you have so far avoided that comment. So I will say it again for you and your friends, CV. Do YOU get it this time? As for stating that anyone who supports a person who would say such sounds crazy…you immature are you…really, CV? That kind of logic thought process is not what I would expect in a rational discussion…

  77. Tina Worthey Manuel

    Barry L. Spencer When people don't have an intelligent response…they throw out comments like yours. I get that you judge a book by it's cover without ANY desire to search for the truth and look inside at the pages. You'll gather SOUND BITES from around the water cooler, turn nothing into some kind of belief that you hold true. You know how you FEEL, you don't want to be bothered by the facts. I can actually respect that because at least you've made yourself known. You are a larger part of the population that does the exact same thing. At least that's better then being in that percentage group that has never thought about it at all.

  78. Marie Hudson

    I saw the interview and enjoyed it. PASTOR Joel is a preacher, and he knows he is not perfect. If a person smiles, what is the problem? As for the comment on homosexuality, that was his view and nothing to hate him for. The problem we have in the USA is, if someone disagrees with us, we want everybody to hate them, get over it. We all have opinions! Good interview Oprah, and good insight from the pastor.

  79. Anonymous

    Barry L. Spencer regardless of what one wants or is, it is about what they do, to repent is to understand what you’re doing offends god then to work to stop doing it (or you would be one that practices lawlessness matt 7:21-23).no one can be flawless but that does not mean we can willingly pursue things he tells us not to. Also it does not matter what we want our how we feel. It is that we show we are willing to obey. We are not required to be in a relationship. If one is gay they are gay, it is what they do that God takes issue with. Does not mean a male and female in pre marital sex is any less of an offender (guilty here) I have nothing against them if they chose to follow god or not is between them and him. I have my own sins and no place to judge but preach I must because we are commanded to do so.

  80. Tina Worthey Manuel

    Stacy Suniga Stacy..I understand what you are saying. I too have read it in the Greek and Arabic languages. All that 'knowledge' aside…HOW does that CHANGE what I said and make it wrong? I NEVER said Jesus condemned the PERSON homosexual – but the act. What then do you say about Sodom and Gonorrhea? What about 13 empires that FELL because of their 'behavior'? Do you ignore His judgments on those entities? Good Lord even evolution DOESN'T support the act of homosexuality. Jesus listed MANY behaviors that are sinful…none had a hierarchy to the other. But God did make it clear the reason for it being wrong.
    To my original point – it had more to do with the fact that Christians don't have to accept someones behavior ….but can STILL love that person as they are. Shouldn't THAT be the ultimate goal?

  81. Jarret Norman

    First of all, there is no conclusive evidence that people are born homosexual.

    Second, we are all born into sin.

    Third, to believe that homosexuality is a sin is not a condemnation of homosexuals as people. It is a belief that their behavior is sinful. They can, just as everyone else who sins, be forgiven if they repent.

    Fourth, purely biologically speaking, it should be apparent that homosexuality is not natural. This is not the way we were designed. If everyone were homosexual, the human race could not procreate and would quickly cease to exist.

  82. Tina Worthey Manuel

    Joe Keenan Joe…are you aware of the reason Jesus was born?? Old testament vs. New testament? It's NOT your place to take ANYONE'S life because of their sin. And lets NOT parcel here and be clear that we do live in a Republic and there are rules to live by. Murder, child molestation, theft…IS dealt with. We have authority (though flawed) for that. But no, it's not YOUR place or anyone's place to stone someone for their behavior. That's what Gods judgment is for. And are you really MISSING all those scriptures that SAYS to do exactly that?? Hate the sin – love the sinner? Really?? You've NEVER had that even in your own life? A family member? A friend? A coworker? Someone you've known your whole life who's like a brother…who does something like drink/drive and kill someone? A 'brother' who did come out of the closet…did you ABANDON them? Did you REALLY miss my point??

  83. Austin Rozzell

    Would all the people who swallow the lie about this god thing, please drink the poison koolaid and go see your god real quick and leave this planet to the sane humans, by the words of your own book, this god thing KILLED MILLIONS of men, women, children, the old and infirm, and you sick twisted people still pray to it.
    I say it now, your lost and beyond repair, I hope you die screaming to this god all you will hear is the silence.
    Religions are soaked in the blood of its countless victims. Please die already and take your religion with you. thanks and have a great day.

  84. Naomi Jean Gray

    Giulio.. Oprahs comments were not taken personal.. Contrary to what you believe.. They were taken as she Oprah stated.. With no regard for others.. Truth is if… Oprah was not sitting on millions of dollars she would have totally agreed with Jay-Z.. or why would she promote Dr. King and others that made a stand with him be they blue green purple etc… etc…. Then her and this sham of a doctor that one could hardly see on the tellie because she was so soooo skinny she looked really ill in all honesty… the two of them sitting there proclaiming their ignorance by attacking full figure women.. stating they were thus because they were mentally distrubed.. Rubbish pure rubbish.. No my friend I'm not laughing… Giulio.. I shall not get into a debate with you about FOLLOWERS OF JESUS CHRIST… GOD THE FATHER GOD THE SON JESUS CHRIST GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT THREE IN ONE… If you have any doubts concerns questions etc… etc… Ask Them for help.. I know the truth and have already acknowledged that the written word of God is infallible and I shall add I believe every word written in our Holy Bible and what Christ Jesus has done for us all and I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior…. Oh yes the blood of Christ Jesus… Best wishes..;o).njg<

  85. Jarret Norman

    First of all, there is no conclusive evidence that people are born homosexual.

    Second, we are all born into sin.

    Third, to believe that homosexuality is a sin is not a condemnation of homosexuals as people. It is a belief that their behavior is sinful. They can, just as everyone else who sins, be forgiven if they repent.

    Fourth, purely biologically speaking, it should be apparent that homosexuality is not natural. This is not the way we were designed. If everyone were homosexual, the human race could not procreate and would quickly cease to exist.

  86. Tina Worthey Manuel

    Mike Lawler actually Mike the Bible DOES say why S & G were turned into pillar of salt. It's when the Angels came to visit Lot and his family and sin was so prevalent by then that the homosexuals in the city came knocking on his door demanding he send out the Angels so they can have sex with them. Are you then ignoring archeological findings?? If so, then I guess you don't wanna be bothered by the fact that Noah's Ark is sitting on a mountain top in Turkey.

  87. Tina Worthey Manuel

    Barry L. Spencer After millions of dollars of research investment…scientists STILL haven't found the 'gay' gene. What they DO know statistically is that, 94% of those who are either gay, LGBT, prostituting or molesting….were once themselves abused in one form or another.
    As far as changing orientation? Do you then IGNORE the thousands upon thousands who WERE gay their whole life, came to some revelation, talked about what oppression they felt and changed their orientation to heterosexual and now have wives and families? You're telling me you know NO one who's come out of the homosexual lifestyle? Because you're making a blanket statement that just isn't true. And to say that THEN discounts those who DID change their orientation. And I can tell you they are equally offended when THEY are rejected by old friends who won't except them anymore for 'flipping.'

    And religion doesn't 'cloud' anything if you've studied it enough and came to your own conclusion. But most don't study, they formulate their opinions from sound bites typically leaving them confused and not with full knowledge. Man clouds it.

  88. Jarret Norman

    First of all, there is no conclusive evidence that people are born homosexual.

    Second, we are all born into sin.

    Third, to believe that homosexuality is a sin is not a condemnation of homosexuals as people. It is a belief that their behavior is sinful. They can, just as everyone else who sins, be forgiven if they repent.

    Fourth, purely biologically speaking, it should be apparent that homosexuality is not natural. This is not the way we were designed. If everyone were homosexual, the human race could not procreate and would quickly cease to exist.

  89. CV Conner

    Giulio Campanelli Written by other men yes. Just like you and me, I doubt that. And you left out the part where it's written by men – inspired by God.

  90. Susan Ellison

    Tina Worthey Manuel I love how people compare me to murderers; drug addicts; child molesters; someone who commits vehicular homicide; lady, I feel sorry for for people in your life–God help them.

  91. Justin Tyler Carey

    I've written many, many detailed opinions on news articles, but you know what? I'm not going to do so for this one. I don't think it's worthy of a significant amount of my time… I'll keep it short: All of what we know as humans is due to the conditioning circumstances of both society and nature. What can be perceived is interpreted as such, and thus inhibited by how we translate these aspects of humanity. Sins, gods, the Bible, religion, homophobia, racism — they're all figments of our imagination which have been twisted and contorted, mutated and distorted since the beginning of time. We need to stop following foolish fairy tales written by ancient, powerful leaders… Personally, I don't believe in heaven or hell. I believe in this one life. However, I believe that IF there is an afterlife, it is something so unknown and unimaginable that we cannot possibly understand it whatsoever. Oprah is a very intelligent woman, but her faith in God makes me cringe a bit. No disrespect to her… I suppose any faith in "god" makes me cringe. (This freak, however, well… I'm sure his bank account has enough cash-money in it to pay off ALL of his sins, huh? Don't buy into it…)

  92. Susan Ellison

    CV Conner You are such a freakin' condescending know-it-all. I'll debate you on the bible ANYDAY! But wait; you'll probably say I am not worth your time and you are above me. If you are the type of person that makes it to heaven–please, for the love of God, let me burn in hell.

  93. Sandra Katie Rathbone

    I have watched Pastor Osteen for many yrs and love him very much! He preaches the true word of God! U can just see the glory of God in his face, eyes, and his words! If u are of of those people that don't believe in God or things the bible tells us…I feel so sorry fo u, for u are truely lost in this world. There are changes happening in this world that points to the ending of this world soon, hope nasa, the myans, and the bible all are wrong! God bless pastor Olsteen, Oprah, and us All…… thanks

  94. Jarret Norman

    First of all, there is no conclusive evidence that people are born homosexual.

    Second, we are all born into sin.

    Third, to believe that homosexuality is a sin is not a condemnation of homosexuals as people. It is a belief that their behavior is sinful. They can, just as everyone else who sins, be forgiven if they repent.

    Fourth, purely biologically speaking, it should be apparent that homosexuality is not natural. This is not the way we were designed. If everyone were homosexual, the human race could not procreate and would quickly cease to exist.

  95. CV Conner

    Hope Unterschuetz I must admit you sound like a very smart and lovely lady. Without a doubt you're extremely likable. But there is not one contradiction found anywhere in the Bible, not one. The reason there appears to be to you and at one time to me is because of our lack of understanding of the word of God. God (His Word-Holy Bible) can only be known to the extent that He reveals Himself. So our understanding of God (his word- Holy Bible) is not a result of independent human reasoning having set out to find God and figure Him (his word-The Holy Bible) out. Our knowledge of God (his word-The Holy Bible) comes only by means of, and must be derived out of, His own Self-revelation. We must allow God to determine our understanding of Himself (his word-The Holy Bible), and that by His own Self-revelation.

  96. Tina Worthey Manuel

    Giulio Campanelli I'm copying and pasting one of my earlier answers originally to someone else. It's up to each and every person to read the information for themselves. But to make a blanket statement and ignore historically proven information- is NOT to your benefit.

    I do have some questions though. If God didn't write the Bible, and He is 'different' to everyone, and the book was written by other humans 'like you and me'…what about the people who AREN'T like you and me?? What if they CHOOSE not to give love and respect? What if they choose hatred and killing instead, do we still 'judge' them just because they weren't like you and me?
    What if they ignore to respect other differences like race, ethnicity or sexual orientation? Do we condemn those that say it's ok to murder? rape and pillage? Because THOSE folks are in the Bible too. Do we then NOT have a set of laws and rules to judge behavior to keep dangerous people in line? If God is pure LOVE but there are PLENTY of people who AREN'T full of anything but evil and hate…. then what? What if God is NOT pure love to some and they choose to act directly opposite? Remove the 'faith' aspect for a minute from the Bible. It is STILL the NUMBER ONE HISTORICAL book used in the world. Bad people happen and they were judged. If they don't see the common sense in the Bible, then why do we have laws, rules, and behaviors that are acceptable and some that are not? If there is not an ultimate authority, a divine designer, then how did the perfect order happen?

    My previous post: "Please read the FACTS about the Bible before you make a statement that is so off. The Bible was written over a 1500 year period by 45 different 'men' who could NOT have conspired to write the perfect flow of the Bible. They ranged from scholars to fishermen (for a reason). The Bible has never been wrong and to date all prophecies have come true. Mary and Joseph riding into Bethlehem to deliver a child who would be called Jesus, was prophesied approx 800 years BEFORE it happened! You can't even get people around a water cooler at work to tell the same story the same DAY without false statements being added or subtracted!! And that's because it's 'mans' words at that point. The Bible however was Gods word. If you read it, you'd see it.

    The Bible is the MOST used historical book used by archeologists, scientists, professors, historians etc etc.

    There were MORE witnesses to Christs' rise on the 3rd day then Washington crossing the Delaware.

    There is a WHOLE book of facts worth reading within the Bible:

    B asic
    I nstructions
    B efore
    L eaving
    E arth

    ….that can't be discounted. Choose not to believe that Jesus rose from the dead and did what he said he's going to do? …despite the proof that prophecy is STILL being fulfilled?? Then don't. But NO one can discount historical facts that lay within those pages.

    So make fun all you want. But it's at you're own peril…not those who believe."

  97. Evelina Ayala

    Well said. Some people cannot handle the truth. Dont' hate us, that is what the word says. A sin is a sin. Don't kill the messangers, if they have a problem they should take it up with God. God made a man and a woman period. Any other is a sin. If we were to live the life of gays/lesbinas etc.. the human race would be extinct. We are to reproduce and replenish the earth. a Woman and a woman cannot do it, it's humanly impossible.

  98. Susan Ellison

    Evelina Ayala Maybe He just put people like me out into the universe to see how people like some of you would treat people like me. So far, he's uber disappointed! I've always thought God was an "outside of the box" person–not the literalist you all think; but someone who can put things before his children to actually see if they can ascend to a higher plane–some of you, still on the ground, on your belly, in the mud.

  99. CV Conner

    Susan Ellison Wow! You sure seem to be angry with me for being a Christian with an opinion. You ok? You need to calm down, this is only a forum, it's not life or death. But you'll debate me on the Bible? Now why would you do that? It's pretty clear from all your posts hear that nothing I say you would accept. So why get so up in arms because I have an opinion same as you do?" I'm not interested in debating you because it would clearly be a waste of both our time. You have been told by a few people that you sound pretty smart, I have been told the same by a couple of millions, but then who's counting right. I love you, I love that you love you, and I am not your enemy dear.

  100. Anonymous

    Susan Ellison a sin is a sin many try to justify even a lie with things like Santa and say its OK because it makes the kids happy but i say could they not still be happy without an act offensive to god. an offense to god is what it is regardless of how we feel. it does not make you any different than i who is probable more sinful than any on here, so i compare myself to being on equal ground to a murderer.

  101. Dennis Mori

    Robbin Jacobs
    Robbin Jacobs, you are fabulous and I love everything you've written on here. I will follow your words and be a believer in you. Why is there no one like you that has a "church" and speaks the truth. I can't believe the people on here, they look young and smart, I thought after all these years people would learn/realize that Gay is nothing new or different. So much hate and smarmy know it all attitude in the God loving, " we read the bible and believe every word in it, so your wrong and I'm right". I could go on and on but I like your short answers/jabs the best. So you keep on smacking these uppity know it alls. Dennis

  102. Anonymous

    to think any one person or group is "better" than any other goes against the teachings of Jesus, its up to god to decide who passes in the end. but we are given directions on what to do in order to make it. and like it says many will try and few will make it. just as many do things in His name does not mean all is pleasing to him.

  103. Tammy Hepler

    Joel Osteen is a great speaker and I believe teaches the Word the way God wants it taught. We are not to judge or condemn as none of us are without sin. Whether homosexuality is right or wrong is not for us to decide. I like many nonbelievers, think that homosexuality is genetic (in many or maybe most cases). You also have to admit that being gay or bi is a fad / cool thing to do in Hollywood and that influences many young people these days. I also believe (like my brothers and sisters in Christ) that it's sinful to live that lifestyle (by choice). But it's no more sinful than breaking the law of the land ("Give unto Cesar..") or premarital sex or alcoholism. For those who are "born that way", who knows – maybe it's the wages of our sin that our children are being born gay, maybe it's something environmental, maybe it's God's plan! Who cares! Again – God doesn't want us to judge or condemn and so many people get so hung up on such petty things as homosexuality, drinking (even socially), premarital sex, dancing (ha – Baptists! (I was born and raised Southern Baptist)), etc.. that we forget the point! We spend our time being jealous over what others have and gossiping over what they do that God and our Savior have all but disappeared! And we're fighting amongst ourselves over such petty differences that we have let the Federal government all but pull God out of every facet of our country. Islam has more pull in our country now that Christianity and that's a scary fact people!
    Anyway, I digress. We as Christians should accept everyone and try to show them love and compassion and tell them the good news of Jesus and that he loves them no matter what they've done. Someone in another branch of this conversation was ranting about being sick of people loving the homosexual but not the homosexuality. I say love the homosexual and let the rest be between them and God. That person was wrong in most of their rant (I've never heard a pastor encourage bullying of gays) but right in that they feel hated by the condemnation of their actions. We all need to check ourselves and wake up before it's too late for our country and our faith.
    As for Barry Spencer and others who choose to bash those who believe in God – it's funny how things have come full circle isn't it? It used to be that people called believers weak because they had to believe in a God and the afterlife, so death wasn't such a scary proposition, etc.. blah blah blah. I say it's always been fact (but is especially true now) that nonbelievers are weak. It's really easy to believe in nothing.. all you have to do is nothing! And believe me, I've searched my soul and educated myself a great deal over many years before coming back to the realization that there really is a God. And most nonbelievers think they're so smart too.. they will talk this quantum physics, negatively charged ball of ions B.S. and make what they think is such a compelling story. But I've read all about science's take on how we all came to be, and while I respect scientists for the work they do and advancements in medicine, etc, they are people too and how many of them have been disproved? The answer is all of them! It's all theory and faulty and they will tell you that if you ask them. Think about it – where did the ball of negatively charged ions come from? Okay so now you can make matter from antimatter (for years matter could neither be created nor destroyed), but where did antimatter come from? And if you have an answer for that, where did it come from? I mean come on people – everything can't come from nothing! You can't have had nothing in the middle of nowhere and then there was this big explosion and everything is all the sudden there! There has to be a creator who lives outside the realm of time and space – who has always been and always will be! It's that simple..

  104. Jarret Norman

    First of all, there is no conclusive evidence that people are born homosexual.

    Second, we are all born into sin.

    Third, to believe that homosexuality is a sin is not a condemnation of homosexuals as people. It is a belief that their behavior is sinful. They can, just as everyone else who sins, be forgiven if they repent.

    Fourth, purely biologically speaking, it should be apparent that homosexuality is not natural. This is not the way we were designed. If everyone were homosexual, the human race could not procreate and would quickly cease to exist.

  105. Joe Keenan

    Tina Worthey Manuel Oh, I get it. We do not have to accept the laws of the OT because Jesus died for our sins (see NT) and therefore those laws are…outdated? So, if fundamentalist Christians use Leviticus to condemn homosexuality, or use any other reference to the OT, their noting of Leviticus would be outdated and inaccurate?? As for the rest of your post, your analogies are a bit off-base to the discussion here but thank you for taking the time to respond.

  106. Barry L. Spencer

    Tina Worthey Manuel. Where do you find this nonsense? Noah's ark on a mountaintop in Turkey? From a piece of wood someone found there? Jesusgodalmighty, that's really nuts. And praying away the gay? That is pure bunk, just ridiculous. Look at Michelle Bachmanns husband Marcus. He's as queer as a $3 bill. He would have made a fabulous first lady. Thank the universe that didn't happen. Quit making stuff up.

  107. Barry L. Spencer

    Tina Worthey Manuel. To the contrary, religious groups make stuff up as they go along, like Noah's ark on a mountain, or people who were once gay are now straight. You cannot pray away the gay. You are just fooling yourself.

  108. Tammy Hepler

    Joel Osteen is a great speaker and I believe teaches the Word the way God wants it taught. We are not to judge or condemn as none of us are without sin. Whether homosexuality is right or wrong is not for us to decide. I like many nonbelievers, think that homosexuality is genetic (in many or maybe most cases). You also have to admit that being gay or bi is a fad / cool thing to do in Hollywood and that influences many young people these days. I also believe (like my brothers and sisters in Christ) that it's sinful to live that lifestyle (by choice). But it's no more sinful than breaking the law of the land ("Give unto Cesar..") or premarital sex or alcoholism. For those who are "born that way", who knows – maybe it's the wages of our sin that our children are being born gay, maybe it's something environmental, maybe it's God's plan! Who cares! Again – God doesn't want us to judge or condemn and so many people get so hung up on such petty things as homosexuality, drinking (even socially), premarital sex, dancing (ha – Baptists! (I was born and raised Southern Baptist)), etc.. that we forget the point! We spend our time being jealous over what others have and gossiping over what they do that God and our Savior have all but disappeared! And we're fighting amongst ourselves over such petty differences that we have let the Federal government all but pull God out of every facet of our country. Islam has more pull in our country now that Christianity and that's a scary fact people!
    Anyway, I digress. We as Christians should accept everyone and try to show them love and compassion and tell them the good news of Jesus and that he loves them no matter what they've done. Someone in another branch of this conversation was ranting about being sick of people loving the homosexual but not the homosexuality. I say love the homosexual and let the rest be between them and God. That person was wrong in most of their rant (I've never heard a pastor encourage bullying of gays) but right in that they feel hated by the condemnation of their actions. We all need to check ourselves and wake up before it's too late for our country and our faith.
    As for Barry Spencer and others who choose to bash those who believe in God – it's funny how things have come full circle isn't it? It used to be that people called believers weak because they had to believe in a God and the afterlife, so death wasn't such a scary proposition, etc.. blah blah blah. I say it's always been fact (but is especially true now) that nonbelievers are weak. It's really easy to believe in nothing.. all you have to do is nothing! And believe me, I've searched my soul and educated myself a great deal over many years before coming back to the realization that there really is a God. And most nonbelievers think they're so smart too.. they will talk this quantum physics, negatively charged ball of ions B.S. and make what they think is such a compelling story. But I've read all about science's take on how we all came to be, and while I respect scientists for the work they do and advancements in medicine, etc, they are people too and how many of them have been disproved? The answer is all of them! It's all theory and faulty and they will tell you that if you ask them. Think about it – where did the ball of negatively charged ions come from? Okay so now you can make matter from antimatter (for years matter could neither be created nor destroyed), but where did antimatter come from? And if you have an answer for that, where did it come from? I mean come on people – everything can't come from nothing! You can't have had nothing in the middle of nowhere and then there was this big explosion and everything is all the sudden there! There has to be a creator who lives outside the realm of time and space – who has always been and always will be! It's that simple..

  109. Vicky Ford

    Joel Osteen wouldn't know the gospel if he fell over it. He preaches a feel good, name it and claim it religion. Yes, God is a God of Love…he is also angry with the wicked every day and he is a god of Wrath!

  110. Barry L. Spencer

    Rodney Steel. What happened to my reply asshole? Here it is again. My mother is dead fuckstick. I'd rather eat a taco than a hotdog, you dickhead. There is no hell moron. The name Rodney is queer as a $3 bill. Dickhead.

  111. Tammy Hepler

    So am I being censored on here because I said Islam has more pull than Christianity in our country and that's scary? I wrote a long reply to all this and posted it twice and it isn't here..

  112. Joe Sterbinsky

    Giulio Campanelli
    Why do you think, ah or believe that God is pure love? Why don't you think God had no "hand" (figurative) in writing the Bible?

  113. Tammy Hepler

    Let's try it in two sections in case there's a character limit.
    Joel Osteen is a great speaker and I believe teaches the Word the way God wants it taught. We are not to judge or condemn as none of us are without sin. Whether homosexuality is right or wrong is not for us to decide. I like many nonbelievers, think that homosexuality is genetic (in many or maybe most cases). You also have to admit that being gay or bi is a fad / cool thing to do in Hollywood and that influences many young people these days. I also believe (like my brothers and sisters in Christ) that it's sinful to live that lifestyle (by choice). But it's no more sinful than breaking the law of the land ("Give unto Cesar..") or premarital sex or alcoholism. For those who are "born that way", who knows – maybe it's the wages of our sin that our children are being born gay, maybe it's something environmental, maybe it's God's plan! Who cares! Again – God doesn't want us to judge or condemn and so many people get so hung up on such petty things as homosexuality, drinking (even socially), premarital sex, dancing (ha – Baptists! (I was born and raised Southern Baptist)), etc.. that we forget the point! We spend our time being jealous over what others have and gossiping over what they do that God and our Savior have all but disappeared! And we're fighting amongst ourselves over such petty differences that we have let the Federal government all but pull God out of every facet of our country. Islam has more pull in our country now that Christianity and that's a scary fact people!
    Anyway, I digress. We as Christians should accept everyone and try to show them love and compassion and tell them the good news of Jesus and that he loves them no matter what they've done. Someone in another branch of this conversation was ranting about being sick of people loving the homosexual but not the homosexuality. I say love the homosexual and let the rest be between them and God. That person was wrong in most of their rant (I've never heard a pastor encourage bullying of gays) but right in that they feel hated by the condemnation of their actions. We all need to check ourselves and wake up before it's too late for our country and our faith.

  114. Tammy Hepler

    Hmm.. character limit?
    Joel Osteen is a great speaker and I believe teaches the Word the way God wants it taught. We are not to judge or condemn as none of us are without sin. Whether homosexuality is right or wrong is not for us to decide. I like many nonbelievers, think that homosexuality is genetic (in many or maybe most cases). You also have to admit that being gay or bi is a fad / cool thing to do in Hollywood and that influences many young people these days. I also believe (like my brothers and sisters in Christ) that it's sinful to live that lifestyle (by choice). But it's no more sinful than breaking the law of the land ("Give unto Cesar..") or premarital sex or alcoholism. For those who are "born that way", who knows – maybe it's the wages of our sin that our children are being born gay, maybe it's something environmental, maybe it's God's plan! Who cares! Again – God doesn't want us to judge or condemn and so many people get so hung up on such petty things as homosexuality, drinking (even socially), premarital sex, dancing (ha – Baptists! (I was born and raised Southern Baptist)), etc.. that we forget the point! We spend our time being jealous over what others have and gossiping over what they do that God and our Savior have all but disappeared! And we're fighting amongst ourselves over such petty differences that we have let the Federal government all but pull God out of every facet of our country. Islam has more pull in our country now that Christianity and that's a scary fact people!

  115. Tammy Hepler

    Anyway, I digress. We as Christians should accept everyone and try to show them love and compassion and tell them the good news of Jesus and that he loves them no matter what they've done. Someone in another branch of this conversation was ranting about being sick of people loving the homosexual but not the homosexuality. I say love the homosexual and let the rest be between them and God. That person was wrong in most of their rant (I've never heard a pastor encourage bullying of gays) but right in that they feel hated by the condemnation of their actions. We all need to check ourselves and wake up before it's too late for our country and our faith.

  116. Tammy Hepler

    Part 2..
    Anyway, I digress. We as Christians should accept everyone and try to show them love and compassion and tell them the good news of Jesus and that he loves them no matter what they've done. Someone in another branch of this conversation was ranting about being sick of people loving the homosexual but not the homosexuality. I say love the homosexual and let the rest be between them and God. That person was wrong in most of their rant (I've never heard a pastor encourage bullying of gays) but right in that they feel hated by the condemnation of their actions. We all need to check ourselves and wake up before it's too late for our country and our faith.

  117. Tammy Hepler

    As for Barry Spencer and others who choose to bash those who believe in God – it's funny how things have come full circle isn't it? It used to be that people called believers weak because they had to believe in a God and the afterlife, so death wasn't such a scary proposition, etc.. blah blah blah. I say it's always been fact (but is especially true now) that nonbelievers are weak. It's really easy to believe in nothing.. all you have to do is nothing! And believe me, I've searched my soul and educated myself a great deal over many years before coming back to the realization that there really is a God. And most nonbelievers think they're so smart too.. they will talk this quantum physics, negatively charged ball of ions B.S. and make what they think is such a compelling story. But I've read all about science's take on how we all came to be, and while I respect scientists for the work they do and advancements in medicine, etc, they are people too and how many of them have been disproved? The answer is all of them! It's all theory and faulty and they will tell you that if you ask them. Think about it – where did the ball of negatively charged ions come from? Okay so now you can make matter from antimatter (for years matter could neither be created nor destroyed), but where did antimatter come from? And if you have an answer for that, where did it come from? I mean come on people – everything can't come from nothing! You can't have had nothing in the middle of nowhere and then there was this big explosion and everything is all the sudden there! There has to be a creator who lives outside the realm of time and space – who has always been and always will be! It's that simple..

  118. Anonymous

    Joe Keenan not our job to condemn anyone, but we are required to spread his word to all.

  119. Jarret Norman

    First of all, there is no conclusive evidence that people are born homosexual.

    Second, we are all born into sin.

    Third, to believe that homosexuality is a sin is not a condemnation of homosexuals as people. It is a belief that their behavior is sinful. They can, just as everyone else who sins, be forgiven if they repent.

    Fourth, purely biologically speaking, it should be apparent that homosexuality is not natural. This is not the way we were designed. If everyone were homosexual, the human race could not procreate and would quickly cease to exist.

  120. Barry Lott

    Of course the sexual act between men with men and women with women is sinful it a abomination. don't try to change the Truth.. Is a lie a sin! Is murder a sin. Is adultery a sin of course. Stop trying to say the being gay is good it is not1 In the last days the will say good is evil and evil is good. Turn back America and do good in righteousness.

  121. Susan Ellison

    CV Conner I'm not mad at you for being a Christian–that is ridiculous. I'm a Christian. You are making an assumption that a "few" people have told me I sound pretty smart. O.K., I will allow you to think that. People who truly have something to say don't have to make all of these claims that you do.You do not know my background. You are picking the bible apart. And on that note, I will wish you well.

  122. Susan Ellison

    Kenny and Page Sondergard Love is never wrong. Murder is not love. For us to agree, you would have to agree that homosexuality is not a sin and agree that we live in a very biologically, physiologically ambiguous place (our bodies and minds). Jesus never, ever condemned homosexuals–I would be careful speaking for Jesus. The judgement on this board, and the false knowledge, whether intentional or not, is absurd.

  123. Rob Yeargan

    She asked "do you believe that homosexuality is a sin?" Joel answer "yes, it says in the Bible it's a sin". Simple to the point. If you don't believe in the teachings of the Bible then let it go. It's funny how non-believers are so interested in what is in the Bible. Maybe you do believe and you just don't want to admit it. How can a self professed homosexual say it's not right, fair or whatever to not support or accept their agenda and then turn around and say that a Christian or anyone who doesn't agree with them is wrong? That's hypocritical.

  124. Cathy Cook

    Giulio Campanelli I agree. Man wrote the bible to control others. Man also hates in the name of God and cherry picks verses out of the bible to justify their hate.

  125. Cathy Cook

    Tina Worthey Manuel Please list the facts of the bible. Cold hard facts. The bible is a book of stories for us to learn lessons from. We are suppose take the book metaphorically, not literally.

  126. Antonio AR

    Hmmm…reading some of the comments I can see that most of you do not know God or what His words says.Mr Osteen preaches "feel good Christianity", so everyone thinks there is no suffering or hard times if your a Christian, not only did Christ suffer a death like no other but many of the saints (believers in Christ) suffered and died and are still the most persecuted group in the world, it's our faith in Christ Jesus that gives us strength and riches beyond the material wealth that Mr.Osteen preaches.In the Bible the only book where all prophecies have come to past and are still in process, homosexuality is a "sin", in fact God calls it an "abomination"( Leviticus 18:22 ) and God did destroy Sodom and Gomorrah because of homosexuality, also it clearly states that no homosexuals will be in heaven (1 Corinthians 6:9-10) along with many other sinful lifestyles so Mr.Osteen not speaking the truth just confirms that he is not preaching the truth and just along for the fame he now receives.God is love but it is not the love we as humans like to involve ourselves in, God is pure and everything in Heaven is pure so nothing that is sinful will be in Heaven unless you confess and accept Christ Jesus as Lord and Saviour cause there is no other way to God, something else Mr.Osteen could not tell Oprah, sad that many are not receiving the truth from Mr.Osteen, hope he finds Christ one day, God bless.

  127. Cathy Cook

    Barry L. Spencer Best example of our sexuality not being a choice: Hitler exterminating Jews, blacks and gays. There were many gay men being gassed because they could not perform with women even to save their own lives.

  128. Cynthia Perry

    He is not teaching the Word of God. He is teaching an interpretation that is incomplete and is not the truth about Jesus as eternal Savior.

  129. Teresa Manley

    I absolutely agree with Joel on the subject! My mother and I watch his programing as much as possible. I do know some gay people, not many openly gay people but a few. I feel for them and their families because theirs is a road I know no one wishes to travel. In a perfect world, there wouldn't be children born sick or maimed…but there are. We all have faults, that doesn't mean that we need to be ridiculed for them…but they are faults just the same. To not love someone for a belief or for their differences is a sin too isn't it? I do not have to answer for anyone else when I meet my maker, and I do not believe that gay people will have to answer to anyone else either. We have to try to except people for who they are…just as they are. Doesn't mean with have to agree with them, and I don't think I am prejudice because I have a different opinion. I am what I am and I have a right to that too.

  130. Dorothy M Thompson

    Everyone is guilty of sin – doesn't matter what the sin is. Be heartily sorry for your sins, ask God's forgiveness, try your absolute best to do only what is pleasing to God, thank God daily for his love and tell all your friends about how important he is in your life. Now, that should put a smile on everyone's face!

  131. Davey Anders

    Yes and this guy will be the yet another in the news trying to get a sexual favor by a guy in an airport bathroom. All of these preachers and republicans that preach against homosexuality end up being in the closet themselves. I'm gay and I'm a saved Christian man. God does not say one sin is bigger than another. Sin is sin……if you want to press the issue it also says glutony is a sin but is that why Jerry Falwell died? Is he going to hell for being a gluton? No, absolutely not. Every human being has sin in their life. I'm not saying my lifestyle is a sin because I've searched my soul and prayed a lot about it. I feel as long as you are living your life with love and compassion toward your neighbor and you are saved you will be going to heaven. It does not matter who you are. We are all made in God's immage and I myself know that I was born gay. You don't make these decisions when you are a very small child. I remember as young as 3 years old feeling attracted toward the same sex. I was born by God this way and as long as I live my life as I think he would see fit I know for a fact I'm going to heaven. This pastor needs to listen more to WHO God wants him to be and not picking and choosing things to use in the media like politics.

  132. Nilda Reyes

    The bible is true people did not beleive Moses,and the scribes and pharasees did not beleive Jesus,when he was on earth and did miracles,signs,wonders,they questioned even the son,of God Jesus,and he was crucified,and rose on the third,day,many people beleive this,and it is in the bible,They thought he was a Carpenter,the son of Mary,and Joseph but he was the son of God came to earth,by Miracle through,the womb of Mary,for the Great commission,to come to earth and be crucified,we mankind need a saviour,because Adam Eve……

  133. Deborah Leithead Dobbins

    CV Conner The bible was written 2000 years ago, by men inspired by God. We don't talk the same way that people did 2000 years ago. Not to mention it has been translated so many times over the years. It stands to reason that some of the passages are taken out of context. Since we have no one to consult (no one from that time) then it may be interpreted differently than the way the passage was meant to be understood.

  134. Grady Farmer

    Barry L. Spencer If your were created by your parents, then who created your grandparents, parents, grandparents grandparents….. you get my drift. There is a holy, God and Jesus Christ filled race of people who were created by God in his likeness and the rest of the people we see, more than likely, did evolve from monkeys and apes, I'm wondering, if you say God didnt create you or your parents, no worries, we now know where you and your bloodline evolved from. #riseoftheplanetoftheapes

  135. Jeff Roberts

    I find it interesting people discredit the Bible because it was written by people and not by God. Of course each book was written by a person or sometimes several (usually the 1st few verses of the book say who wrote it) BUT that doesn't mean it wasn't inspired by God. God uses people every day to carry out is will so for me that is a very weak argument for not believing the Bible is God's word. As far as homosexuality, read Genesis 2:24 (actually I would read all of Ch 2). That pretty much sums it up for me because it all started with Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve!

  136. Cathy Cook

    If God is perfect and makes no mistakes, why did he/she/it destroy the world once already? Could it be because it was screwed up the 1st time? That would mean that God is not perfect. If God is so powerful, loving and caring why does he allow all the suffering in the world? Either God doesn't care or he/she/it is not that powerful.
    BTW to some of you closed minded bigots…SEXUALITY (no matter if it is hetero/homo/bi/trans or asexual) is NOT a lifestyle nor is it a choice.
    There are some people (from all sexualities) who live a reckless life as in, getting drunk, screwing anything that moves, steals, lies and rapes, doesn't care what they are doing to themselves or others…etc. Those are choices and lifestyles.

  137. Sheila Taylor Miller

    Best post on this board, Antonio. It is clear that most people on here can "quote" the Bible, yet they don't know what it says. You have to read the whole thing. And you can't pick and choose what you can believe. Yes, the Bible was written by man, and Divinely Inspired by God. God wrote the Bible using man. And yes, in the Old Testament there were TONS of laws and rules, but Jesus satisified and fulfilled every letter of those laws in His death on the cross, so that man is not subject to those any more. It's simple faith in Christ that saves us, realizing that we cannot do anything in our own flesh to get to Heaven. And NO, not everyone is going to Heaven, we know that. The Bible is clear – there's 1 way to Heaven and it's through faith in Jesus Christ. The Bible says that EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. You can confess it while on earth in submission to His will and ask for salvation, or on Judgment Day, you'll be confessing it as you are cast into the pit of Hell. It's a choice. Ultimately, every man has to answer for himself. Man does not want to admit he needs a Saviour, he wants to trust in his own good deeds, which the Bible tells us are as "Filthy rags". Nothing we can do on this earth will get us into Heaven. If Mother Teresa didn't have Christ as her Saviour, then she's in Hell today. People want to get into debates about Christianity more than any other "religion". It stirs up people more than any other religion. The name of Jesus Christ stirs people up. You can talk about Muhammad, Buddah, etc., and no one gets up in arms, but mention Jesus and boy, you've got a debate on your hands. I wonder why? The Bible also tells us "There is no other name under Heaven or Earth, whereby we must be saved". People don't want to be accountable for their sins – it's all "God is Love". Yes, GOD IS LOVE, but that love is PURE, without sin. God calls homosexuality sin, like it or not. The meaning is plain in the story of Lot where the men want Lot to send out the angels so they may "KNOW" them. Biblically translated that means "have sex". The Bible says "Adam KNEW Eve and she conceived and bare a son", so the term is sexual. Lot begs the men "Not to do this WICKEDNESS". Am I against the homosexual? NO, but I can call a sin a sin. I don't hate them, I don't persecute them. Ultimately, they have to answer for their own sins. I have to answer for mine. I'm not judging them either, I'm using the book that I live my life by to discern what is right and wrong. Lying is wrong, cheating, maliciousness, etc. All are sin. What people get so angry about is that when a Christian calls homosexuality a sin, they say they are judging them. Not so. You can condemn a sin without judging. But whatever. This debate has been going on for years and will continue. The Bible also says that without faith, you cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven. I pray that men find that faith in Christ before it's too late for them.

  138. Sheila Taylor Miller

    Colleen Parker – because the Bible says that "Professing themselves to be wise, they became as FOOLS". People want to pick and choose what makes them comfortable. People don't want to be accountable to God for anything. Sad but true.

  139. Charlotte Arsenault

    The conversation around same-gender loving individuals is getting really old. One day we'll all wake up and realize it's just the most modern way to hate and create divides between people. What pisses me off more than Osteen's comments on homosexuality is his prosperity gospel. He is clearly speaking as a very privileged, white, American male. To say it's a combination of multiple things, including "hope" is to assume we're strictly speaking about American culture (and even then his theory has problems). How many children die before their tenth birthday in squalor, pain, and starvation. Yes, Joel, it's because no one has told them to pick themselves up by their bootstraps. Get real. Perhaps it's your prosperity that is making it impossible to even the scale and make LIVING, at any level of poverty, a reality for them.

  140. Luvera Roberts

    Giulio Campanelli –Do you read the bible? The bible was written by man who was made by God and led by God to write it…King James simply took the letters of men who spoke the oracles of God and transcribed them into a book. The bible is God's word and if you truly knew God, the spirit of God in you would bear witness that the bible is the word of God. God always put his approval on the things of God by his spirit! True, King James was a human being like you and me, but God has always used human beings to bring things into manifestation upon the earth…God is a spirit, dude and a spirit needs a body to dwell in. Why you think we have people acting like the devil…cause the Devil who is pure evil is a spirit and needs a body to dwell in. You too can host the pure LOVE of God if you yield your body, mind, and soul to him..it will be Christ in you doing the LOVING! Please sir, get a revelation.

  141. Luvera Roberts

    Naomi Jean Gray –mentally disturbed does not necessarily mean 'crazy' . You can be disturbed in your mind because of going through various trials in your life. Some people are emotional and become emotional eaters…this is a type of mental disturbance. They are disturbed from what they are encountering in life, therefore, their mind tells them to deal with it by eating. The bible says that 'in all we get, get an understanding'. Seems like to me, you got offended at Oprah and the doctor wthout getting a full understanding of what they were saying because of the little you knew about mental disturbance. People get mentally disturbed all the time…you too and don't even consider it because in your mind it means 'crazy'. No, mentally disturbs simply means when one's mind has been disturbed by some life encounter…some people are more mentally disturbed than others..it has many degrees.. when you get upset about something..you have just got disturbed in your mind! holla back

  142. Luvera Roberts

    Barry L. Spencer –.homosexuality is a spirit that has been passed on from generation to generation…it is a generational curse and somewhere down the bloodline was passed on to individuals…that is why some are born that way..that curse(spirit of homosexuality) has been passed to that child being born. People today need to read the bible and get an understanding. Yes, homosexuality is a SIN…God hates the 'SIN", but not the person and there is deliverance for homosexuals..there is deliverance for every sin, but blaspheming the HOLY GHOST…saying something is not GOD when it is GOD!

  143. Gloria Medina

    Boy oh boy… what misconception! If you watched and "listened" to Pastor Osteen's replies to Oprah's questions then there wouldn't be so much negativity. We are all born sinners…. we must ask for forgiveness before his son, Jesus Christ before entering the kingdom of heaven. God loves every single one of us….

  144. Susan Druss

    Naomi Jean Gray You need to get out more and meet different people. People are people. The sin you are responsible for is "intolerance" and "bigottry".

  145. Cassie Grubb

    To be honest, I'm not a big fan of Joel Osteen, but I do think he answered this question diplomatically and he is entitled to believe anything he wants (lest anyone be narrow-minded in their judgment of his narrow-mindedness). Furthermore, I'm still uncertain about how to reconcile this specific issue with my faith, so I am not going to take a side. However, I will say that I think it's interesting that people take offense at this ONE issue being called sin. Everyone easily agrees that lying or murder or rape are sinful because they are things that hurt us (and most of us can proudly declare that we don't do "those" things). However, we get really offended when people start talking about things that we LIKE — food, money, sex, etc. The foundational principle of Christianity is that we are fundamentally flawed and completely incapable of being righteous on our own. We need God to have grace on us despite ourselves. Therefore, we ALL have it within our nature to sin in some way — whether pride, deceit, lust, greed, gluttony, idolatry, hate, or anything else. No one is isolating homosexuality here. Rather, they are including it in a LIST of sinful tendencies that EVERY ONE of us is susceptible to. I think if we're all really honest with ourselves, this isn't really an issue of homosexuality at all, but an issue with believing that we ALL have some wickedness in us.

  146. Buddy Garriott

    I am a gay male, I live everyday with people like him saying such negative stuff and preening while they do so. I've learned a long time ago to become thickskinned against people like him who in their selfrighteous ways feel they can say anything in the name of god and that's to be respected and believed. Wake up people, the church has been doing this for centuries, scaring people into hell if they don't believe the way they want them to. Those people truly are sheep, because they can't live as they would truly like to without having immense guilt. I have always had my doubts about "Osteen" and his real sexuality. If that is the god you people serve, then I feel for you, after all, it was god who put temptation in the garden of eden and had doubts about his creation from the beginning or else, why would he give them that temptation. Say what you will about gays, most of us really don't care what you say because we have better things to do with our lives than to even consider why you people even care. If you believe we go to hell for being gay, then leave it at that and be satisfied in your selfrighteous thinking. These televangelists want your money, that's all, and they tell you what you like to hear and make you fear so you'll hand over those millions to their church while they pay no tax on it and live better than you do. WAKE UP!

  147. Jeanette Benton Stine

    GET OVER IT PEOPLE . GOD CALLS IT AN ABOMINATION. READ ROMANS CHAPTER ONE, VERSES 18-32. HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN AS IS ADULTERY. THE CHRISTIAN DID NOT PUT IT ON THE FRONT BURNER. THE HOMOSEXUAL DID. YOU DON'T SEE THE ADULTERY ASKING FOR THEIR RIGHTS, AND THAT IS A SIN TOO. THE DEVIL HAS DECEIVED MANY BY THIS LIE. IF BEING HOMOSEXUAL IS A SICKNESS, WHY WOULD HE CALL IT A SIN. LOVE THE SINNER HATE THE SIN

  148. Faye Martinez

    Barry L. Spencer no sir, he actually takes no money from his flock you must have missed the part where he explained that,why is it that people get so angry at clerymen and pastors cause they have beautiful homes and money?you see the Lord richly rewards his people for their work the bible clearly states for us christians to go out and witness to people perhaps you could use a little snake oil of your,
    own open your bible and read you may be surprised just how much Jesus sacrificed for YOU.GOD BLESS

  149. Jack Minish

    I realize this comment is futile but I felt compelled to voice an opinion. The Bible says many things which are questionable to wit: Slavery was permissable in the old testament..women should not speak in church nor cut their hair and should be in subjection to their husbands..the Israelites were commanded to go into the promised land and kill all the inhabitants including their live stock and not take a spoil in order to purge the land of foreign gods..Lots wife was alledgeably turned into a pillar of salt..A priest was to sacrifice an innocent lamb to appease an angry God for sins of the people at regular intervals and he alone could enter the Holies of Holies in the tabernacle..it rained fortie days and fortie nights but Noah had some how managed to corral two of every living creature and take them aboard the ark (imagine that task)..I could go on and on but why some people emphasize only the text regarding man sleeping with man as an abomination while the entire Bible makes Grimms Fairy tales seem plausable. Believe it or not I was raised in a fundemental Christian house hold and held the King James Verison as the Holy Infallable Word of God. My philosophy today is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you and Love they neighbor as thyself" The French have a phrase that appeals to me "Chacun a son gout" TO EACH HIS OWN!

  150. Susie Wymer

    He might have said let there be light, He didn't say let there be sun.. God can make light anyway he wants artificial or real.

  151. Ashley James Lee

    Great point Vicky, everyone accepts that you can be born with a perverted mind, and it simply is not true.. it isnt even scientifically proven like many chant. God is our savior and forgives all sin, hoping many will start searching and praying for the answers to their questions.. A few years ago I could not understand how God made people that were an abomination, the one thing i was 100% sure of is the Bible and from my research and praying God showed me many revelations… I pray the same for many

  152. Ashley James Lee

    Barry L. Spencer I hope you research sodom and gomorrah because it was scientifically proven to exist.. and find out about the fire remains from its destruction(not like remains from lava nor fire… the sulfer is still there infact).. good luck to you

  153. Susie Wymer

    People choose not to believe in God because they don't want to stop doing they things they know that God says are wrong. People like to sin. Noone said it wasn't fun, but hell isn't. Do you really want to take the chance of suffering for eternity or believing for awhile on earth that Jesus is thy way. Whats wrong with living a life based on love. Sin is punishable but salvation is rewarded.

  154. Buddy Garriott

    You must believe in him and support his cause or else he will lose his megachurch which is all that is important to him. I used to believe in so many televangelists until they got caught doing what we are told not to do because it's a sin, yet they wanted to do that sin too. Hypocrites are the people that run the churches. Look at the priests, the baptist ministers, etc…what a bunch of liars, cheaters and deceitful doers. I hope that if hell does exist, there will be a special place for them to roast. Ministers with their little boys and prostitutes. I guess it's the old adage…do as I say, not as I do and hope you don't get caught if you do stray…LOL!

  155. Teresa Drake

    Barry L. Spencer .Do some more research.There have been many that dont want to believe that God is God that Jesus is our savior and that the Bible was written by God.In the process of their research came to KNOW that its all TRUE!! God has nothing to do with religion btw…Jesus hates it.religion was created to separate and confuse the masses of believers .I KNOW without a doubt that the holy spirit is real and wowsy is it a wonderful thing.God is a gentleman.He will never push himself on anyone and youll never know him until you let go of your theories and doubt.

  156. April Bray Kilroy

    Mike Lawler , yes it does say why, for immorality, which means homosexual lifestyle

  157. April Bray Kilroy

    Giulio Campanelli , the words in the bible came from God, only written in human hand. That's why there is no lies in the bible.

  158. Susie Wymer

    We aren't to judge the person just the sin. Its up to God to do the judging of a person's soul. Noone should be bullied or hated for the person they are, it doesn't mean we have to embrace their lifestyle choice or have it flaunted in our faces and be told that we have to believe its ok. I don't hate anyone, but I love God and stand for what is right in his eyes.

  159. April Bray Kilroy

    Robbin Jacobs , because you are blinded by satan's lies, that's only if you believe in him

  160. Teresa Drake

    Robbin Jacobs thats your choice! God bless America that we all have a voice:)

  161. April Bray Kilroy

    hope you can not serve two masters, you either believe the bible or you don't….it's that simple

  162. Jeanette Benton Stine

    If our country does not repent, we are gonna be just like the Roman Empire, and Sodom and Gomorrah, rotten from the inside out. This country will answer one day and us Christians will answer one day to GOD for taking up for sin. It is so sad that it seems the church can"t see the difference in judging sin and just plain judging. It is time us Christians take a stand , for you see , if we don't stand for something, we will fall for anything. You can say anything about Christians, but better watch your mouth when it comes to Muslims. Did you know that the word sodom, comes from the word sodomy, and that is what brought these cities down, homosexuality.

  163. Cheryl Mullins

    Hey Justin, if that really is a pic of you, I just have one thing to say … Check back when you are old enough to know anything! As a matter of fact if you're younger than 40 you've not lived long enough in this world to have your own opinion, so stop regurgitating someone else's.

  164. Darnell Lynn

    Mike Lawler Gen 19: 1-10. The men tried to sodomize two angels.

  165. Cheryl Mullins

    Robbin Jacobs "Top Commenter" You must surf the pages just to see what trouble you can stir up. As to your comment on books, you obviously have not read the bible so your opinion has no basis.

  166. Giulio Campanelli

    Luvera Roberts.. Why do you believe that these men had more power to channel God than you do? We are ALL children of God and if you listen, God speaks to you. I don't need a set of rules that another person wrote. I am a believer of the 10 commandments because they represent LOVE and RESPECT for all man/woman kind. There is no hate.

  167. BlacksIn TheBible

    WHY DID GOD DESTROY SODOM AND GOMMORRAH? IT WAS NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE HOMOSEXUALS FELLOW CHRISTIANS! IT WAS BECAUSE HE COULD NOT FIND 10 RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE IN IT – REMEMBER. JESUS SAID, HAD THE WORKS HE DID BEEN DONE IN SODOM, AT LEAST 10 PEOPLE WOULD HAVE REPENTED OF THE UNBELIEF AND THAT CITY WOULD BE IN EXISTENCE TO THIS VERY DAY. WHAT MAKES PEOPLE RIGHTEOUS? ITS OUR FAITH THAT JESUS DIED FOR OUR SINS AND ROSE TO GIVE US THE "FREE GIFT" OF HIS ETERNAL LIFE BASED ON OUR FAITH IN HIS REDEMPTIVE WORK ON THE CROSS AND HIS RESSURECTION FROM THE DEAD. NO ONE IS GOING TO HELL BECAUSE OF THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION, WE ARE BORN GOING TO HELL BY REASON ONE MAN, ADAM, AND ARE SAVED AND GOING TO HEAVEN BY REASON OF THE WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE 2ND ADAM, JESUS CHRIST. LIKE RIGHTEOUS ABRAM, WHO BY THE WAY HAD SEXUAL RELATIONS OUT OF WEDLOCK IN HIS 80s with his sex-slave Hagar, and had an open marriage arrangement with if wife Sarah, twice, when his life was threaten, he offered her up for sex to the black Pharoah in African as well as the Canaanite king Abimelech. Did God take his righteous status from him? No, like Christians today Abraham's faith was counted for righteousness, not his behavior. Romans 4:5. "Blessed is the man (or woman) to whom the Lord DO NOT IMPUTE (count to their record) SIN. "Sin is not imputed when there is no law, and we are not under the laws of Moses but under grace. Our salvation from our sins is based on the death, blood, and ressurection of Jesus Christ who took away the sin of the world. Now all we must do is believe this good news, which confirms our reservation in heaven when we accept that fact that he paid our sin debt to satisfy the God head. As Christians we get confused about salvation (which is a free gift) and discipleship (which is a life changing lift long process. Salvation is when we Jesus gives his sinless life to us because our faith in Him. Discipleship is a choice of us giving our life in service to him. See wwwHaveYouHeardTheGoodNews. The only sin that Jesus did not die to take away is the sin of unbelief, for the only unforgiveable sin is not to have your sins forgiven for they were pardon when God so love the world that He sent His only Son that whosoever (gay/straight/intelligent/crazy) that WHOSOEVER believes in Him, (His death blood and rez that cured their lifetime sin debt) shall not perish but have everlasting life.

  168. Darnell Lynn

    Barry L. Spencer If homosexuals were born that way how would some be able to go to Christ and claim to be delivered of their sin? Eve was created for Adam. Wouldn’t God made a male partner for Adam if it was natural? Homosexuality is not natural because you cannot reproduce. If homosexuality was rampant lot of us wouldn’t be on this planet. Common sense. Without God this world wouldn’t exist. If you don’t believe in religious nonsense I hope you don’t celebrate Christmas and Easter.

  169. Leviticat Meowser

    Homosexuality is a sin. Why try to sugarcoat something that (for those who are Christians) is wrong. I am not in a position to judge others, just live the life that I have been blessed with. They are responsible for their own actions and choices as we have all been given free will to decide what path we choose to meander on. The few who are homosexual have feigned their position of normalcy to become widely accepted into our American culture. We as Americans, and a society as a whole, are slowly being boiled in a cauldron of tepidness and before we know it, that which is "right" will become evaporated into the clouds of the "me" syndrome. Studies have shown that the majority of those who are gay have become so due to hard circumstances in their lives, alienation, abuse, peer pressure, and overall allure of being different.

  170. Ashley James Lee

    homosexuality was listed as one of the sins responsible for the destruction of sodom and gomorrah, another verse in the bible for clarity is :
    Romans 1:26-27 (KJV)
    26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
    27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
    a great website for sources would be http://www.gotquestions.org/

  171. Ashley James Lee

    Susan Druss can you prove men destroyed sodom and gomorrah?? The scientist said that wasn't possible(Since I see you think the Bible must have beeen lieng to you)… research, learn, heck even try to prove yourself right!

  172. CV Conner

    Barry L. Spencer I like what you said there, "you can believe in anything you like but that doesn't make it true. You have made a great point there sir. Oh, but of course you also realize that you can NOT believe in something that's true and that doesn't change the fact that it is true. Actually Barry, looks like you solved your own riddle.

  173. Anonymous

    Jeanette Benton Stine but we should address it with love in our hearts and seek to rid ourself of any hate or discontent we may have in us. always study the teachings of Christ. the anger many have for gay people is not of God. that anger comes from the our real enemy and as a result it pushes people from God. i pray you turn to Christ and study how he directs us to be

  174. Justin Tyler Carey

    Cheryl Mullins, excuse me? I don't care who you are or how old you are, I have all the entitlement in the world to voice my own opinion, and it is just as valid as anyone else's. These ideas are actually my own — they always have been. Yes, maybe they've been altered a bit as I become more acquainted with the world, but whether I am 40 years old or 18, it won't change my perspective on things. I know people both older and younger than I am who can agree with what I am saying. You don't have to have much experience on this planet to not believe in god. Actually, you don't have to have any experience on this planet to believe in god… because, like I previously said before, we are constantly conditioned to operate a certain way. Unlike you, I don't discriminate against someone's age or beliefs, but I at least try to reason with people who are so set-in-stone with their narrow-minded opinions. Sorry that you disliked my comment. Have a good day. Oh, and by looking at your Facebook likes, it appears that you support the war. You're telling me that after 40+ years of living, you haven't figured out that our society, as well as humanity itself is corrupt? I don't need people "older than me" to tell me what's wrong with this world. All I need to do is widen my horizons, turn on the news, read a book, or however you want to perceive it… and all the answers are right in front of your face. Allow me to remind you, I attended Catholic school for 9 years of my life, I know more than enough about religion to propose my own opinions. Maybe in 20 years I'll become better acquainted with the world, but my beliefs are generally unwavering.

  175. Giulio Campanelli

    Tina Worthey Manuel . They are not FACTS, they are your BELIEFS. You have the right to YOUR beliefs. I have the right to MY beliefs. I don't need a manual to tell me how to live MY life. I do my best to be my best, however when people start comparing homosexuality to rapist, murderers, pediphila, prostitutions, etc.. it does ruffle my feathers a bit and it effects the lives of many young gay children. Yes, most homosexuals know they are gay at a young age. That's a FACT. People do not choose their orientation. That's a FACT. The highest percentage of homeless teens are gay. Parents throw their child out due to their religious beliefs. Highest percetage of teen suicide are gay. These are FACTS. If we spent as much time obeying God’s two greatest commandments, which are that we love Him and love our neighbors as ourselves, and less time policing everyone who is different from us, imagine what a world it would be.

  176. Teresa Drake

    Austin ..our words define what we believe. If your not on Gods team than you must bat for his opposer! Lucifer has many followers . Congrats on taking the easy way out.

  177. Anonymous

    does not mean you must pass laws that go against our Father but be more humble if you must be involved in politics at all. even politics leads to pride, wrath, envy, greed and lust.

  178. Anonymous

    Barry L. Spencer a person is who they are, you can not pray the gay away but one can make an effort to stop doing things that our Father asks us not to do(repenting). if they do not want to stop it is not the duty of Christians to insult or attack them but to pray for all and preach his word

  179. Trev Bell

    Naomi Jean Gray I agree with you, even though I'm not a black man, I'm white. Anyone would have to be blind to not agree with Jay-Z. You know I saw a study recently that a white male with a felony has a better chance of getting a student loan than a normal black man. It's crazy… racism is still alive and kicking in America and it's sad… in my opinion, race doesn't exist, there is one race, called the human race. Some of have melanin and some of us have the lack of, all in different shades. We are all the same. :)

  180. Anonymous

    Susan Ellison sin is just anything that our Father orders us not to do if we want to do the will of our Father we would make efforts not to do anything he tells us not to do. he does talk about marriage and celibacy in Matthew 19:1-12 and there is nothing in the bible that says our Father is ok with his followers doing it. it is not the place of Christians to judge or condemn but preach we must. i do pray that more will analyze how they feel about others and how our Lord teaches us to treat others.

  181. Luvera Roberts

    Vicky Ford — God did not create homosexuals…he would not create someone and destroy them because they are that way…sin creates homosexuals. Homosexuallity is a sin, passed down from generation to generation..a generational curse! Some curses skip a generation..when babies are born that way, that curse is in their bloodline and need to be broken. Jesus paid the price for their deliverance. People have no understanding today…God said, 'My people perish for lack of knowledge'…Read Romans chapter 1 verses 18-32 states how God turned these people over to these sins because that when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful, but became vain in their imaginations, and thier foolish heart was darkened, professing themselves to be wise, they became fools…read it all, too much to type here…you will see how homosexuallity came to be generations ago…God hates the 'sin' but loves the person so much that he gaves his only begotten son, Jesus, to die for their deliverance! They can be delivered of that 'sin' and set free to live a normal life as men and women.

  182. Anonymous

    i would add, any that repent and turn to God could make it into his kingdom. but to repent you have to make an effort to stop doing anything displeasing to him, one has to search deeply for all that is in them that our Father directs u not to do.

  183. Jeanette Benton Stine

    Kenny and page, I have no hate for homosexuals. Jesus said to love everyone, not to judge them. I love them, I don't judge them, I judge their sin. If that bothers you , then so be it. GOD is a GOD of love, but he is also a GOD of wrath. He will judge every homosexual, adultery, liar, and all sin. If it is covered by his son's blood, he will forgive, but only if we turn from sin, repent. Should we continue in sin that Grace may abound, GOD FORBID! THAT IS IN THE BIBLE TOO!

  184. Giulio Campanelli

    Luvera Roberts just because you are a minister, doesn't make your word right. My minister is Michael Beckwith of Agape. At Agape we learn that to love God is to love all his children. Michael Becwith said and I quote "gays are a gift from God." He said it on Oprah. The poison that I learned in my youth from my Catholic upbring almost caused me to take life. Thank GOD I didn't. What you quoted is what John said Jesus said. How is that the word of God?? I will pray for you that one day you will live life with compassion and love and stop spreading hate.

  185. Donny Red Hayes

    I am not bashing gays. I do not believe that you are born that way. I believe you develop your desire for either man or woman as you grow up. I do believe it is a sin, and no sin is greater than another. All sins are the same. I was going to make some comments on here, but would that be right? No. So if you have a problem with gays then stay away from them. I do. They make me siclk to my stomach, so i turn around and walk away. They will have to face God one day. I like Joel Osteen. I enjoy the way he preaches. He brings the bible with life examples together. I am not anywhere up to par on the bible like most of you here. So being able to listen to him and think about life with it helps me in lifes motivations w/ a side of gospel. I know it should be the other way around. You also need to watch some others that get a little more into the scriptures. And to you nonbelivers, WHAT IF THERE IS A GOD? I ask myself is there or is there not. Well I would rather live my life and believe than not believe and be wrong. Thank you!

  186. CV Conner

    Joe Keenan Because several people have come to my website and FB page to ask me to respond to this, I will. First off let me say that I really don't come here with the intentions of forming a personal attack against anyone, in fact many people are like you, just open to a little firm but fair discussion and I like that. Now, as far as my making a personal attack against Rebecca with my statement about feeling sorry for her husband, it may indeed sound unkind but it's the truth. Think about it. I have a wonderful wife who loves nothing more than to see and make me smile. I couldn't imagine a smile being a possible cause of anger and distrust in a home. But Rebecca's statement painted a nice picture to me that in some homes (probably hers included) that could be a case. And if that is true then yes sir ree buddy, I do feel sorry for him. Now let me make this perfectly clear, I don't know the lady and hopefully her statement doesn't even reflect her true self. She could very well be someone as nice and sweet as they come, I have no idea. But am I apologetic for saying what I said? Of course not!

    Then we get to the part where you question my statement that anyone who supports such thinking is almost as bad as the one who said it. Again I meant every ounce of that statement. I don't support bank robbery, so you will never see me loaning someone who does a gun and driving them to the bank. If I did and they were caught then I would deserve to be charged same as them. So if you support the statement Rebecca originally made then in my humble opinion you would sound almost as insane as she did. My stand on this issue will not change.

  187. Rebecca S. Sweat

    CV Conner Iam indeed a nice sweet person and my husband and I laugh and smile all the time. You owe me no apology because as I said, we each have our own opinion and no one will change it.

  188. Anonymous

    Jeanette Benton Stine He will be the one to deal with those that he considers unworthy, but any that we make to despise our Father because of how we are to them will be held against us. we can not bring all to him, but some that may consider turning there life over to him may think twice about it because of how we are to them. that does not mean one has to support laws or anything against his will but must be cautious about how we go about it. for however we treat even the least of them is the same as doing it to our Father. also remember many will try to justify sin in all that they do. many things involved in the Christmas traditions involve lies, lust,greed,envy, and wrath. and regardless if our father is a God of wrath does not mean we are ordered to be so against those that do not except him.

  189. CV Conner

    Antonio AR I tried very hard not to respond to you, but hey I just couldn't do it, so here goes. Pastor Joel Osteen has made his choice to carry the good news. That in no way means the same as he is not aware of the bad news. But don't you agree that there is enough people like you all to willing to carry the bad news? Why would you claim he is not living in truth because he has chosen to follow the Bible where it tells us to carry the good news? In fact you should be happy because he clearly is not stepping over into your area. I think you are too focused on the price of the suit Joel wears to even really listen to what he says. So I have a question for you and all of you 2-3 followers. Since Pastor Joel Osteen does not even get a 1 penny salary from the church but spends hours upon hours preaching and traveling the world to try and bring the "Good News" to others, what is it that you think he's doing it for? I want you to sit down a moment and really think this through before you answer and embarrass yourself. "What is it that Joel Osteen is trying to gain by smiling and teaching a positive message since you now know that he's not paid a dime for it? Joel Osteen is a two-time #1 NYT Bestselling Author, his books pays for his living. So I would love to hear what you come up with on this.

  190. CV Conner

    BlacksIn TheBible, look, could it also be that some people are going to hell simply for using all caps (Yelling) in a public forum? I'm just wondering.

  191. Anonymous

    Joe Keenan outdated no, the old testament is still Gods word but Jesus did clear it up for us when he made it clean everyone has sins and let he who is without sin cast the first stone, no one can do so leaving the judgment and punishment in his hands only. after learning to live as Jesus (easier said than done. i still struggle with it) it is still important to understand the old testament.

  192. CV Conner

    Jack Minish that is a very good thing you said "To Each His Own". You're a very wise man. I do hope you'll remember you said that though next time you see some uncared for teenager knock an old man or woman in the head for the $2 they saw they receive back in change at the store. To each his own, say nothing, do nothing, just let whatever is most popular be. Amazing.

  193. Ashley James Lee

    I'm glad I read back over this, because I forgot to mention something else important, because many people think it is simple to enter Gods kingdom (having ever after life whether its burning or in bliss is a lil different)

    Luke 13:23-28 (KJV)
    23Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
    24Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
    25When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
    26Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
    27But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
    28There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

  194. Anonymous

    Jeanette Benton Stine Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?” Romans 6:1 please read on to
    romans 6:2-6….mark 12:30-31 also talks about love your neighbor as yourself. it is not just how we are external but internal as well.the ways we feel internally do show one way or another, and i know personally it is not an easy thing to remove/change

  195. Luvera Roberts

    Giulio Campanelli -yes he does speak to me…the bible is the logos word of God. He moves upon that word as well as he does a rhama word. The bible is not just a set of rules…and if you
    read it correctly, you would know that we are not under the law which consists of the ten commandments..
    There were 613 laws…Jesus came to fulfill the law with LOVE…if we LOVE God, then we will keep his commandments, the bible is full of guidelines we should live by and revelation knowledge that takes the spirit of God to discern…Jesus said, "my words are spirit and they are life' in John 6:63…the word of God has to be spiritually discerned…some people discredit the bible because they cannot understand it…if you truly are born again with the spirit of God, then you would not be saying that the bible is… not inspired by God. These words are not just rules that another man wrote…if you had the holy spirit(ghost) of God then the spirit of God in you would bare witness that the bible is God's ordained word. You act like God does not use man for his purpose..he does and always has and will…he is still doing it today..if you truly walked in love, you would not need a list of 10 commandments because you would automatically do them and not have to have a list to remind you. In all you get as the bible states, get an understanding..and if God really talked to you, you would know the bible is real, because he does not discredit his word which reveals the God head..the Trinity..all being one with a purpose to redeem mankind! Praying that God opens up your understanding and gives you a visitation of truth!

  196. Trev Bell

    It's a choice, and she stated it, she said she didn't agree, she didn't say her opinion was fact. So God bless America we have a voice even if we don't agree with you. Not to be mean at all, but in my opinion Joel Osteen is a false teacher, and a wolf in sheep clothing. I think he smiles so much knowing all the money he makes off them poor lost souls and his message is popular because he never confronts sin head on, you can have clean conscience because everything is okay. :)

  197. Trev Bell

    Just like to add… I don't know if debating about Joel Osteen is the best neither. It's kind of like politics.. both sides already have their mind made up. To represent Christ, I think we can say a teachers teachings or wrong or correct, but we just need to be careful to not cross the line off attacking, because people can be turned off to what your saying. This isn't aimed at any one person, just a message to you all, lol.

  198. Teresa Drake

    So I looked at your profile(youve left it open for all to see) and I see the pentagram your wearing around your neck in your pic. So I was right wasnt I?!You do worship Satan!!! You poor misguided lost soul. Id change my ways if I were you because you WILL burn in hell when you die. I dont want anyone to go to hell so plzzz do your research and youll discover JESUS is the way:) Maybe youll have a few more friends on fb too!! What a bonus…lol

  199. Teresa Drake

    Trev Bell God is the only one that truly knows Joels heart.Pray and Ask him!! Hes there to guide you.

  200. Anonymous

    Jeanette Benton Stine another thing about judging in 1 corinthians 5:9-13 9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. 10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. 11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.
    12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? 13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”

    it is our job to correct a brother then distance ourself from them if they do not address it… its our Fathers job to judge those outside of the church
    there is a difference between bringing people to God and judging there sin if one does not want to come to Him we shake the dust from out feet and move on, he will deal with them in his own time. we are not to even judge there sin. but if i am miss guided on that i always like to know where i misunderstand his teachings.

  201. Trev Bell

    Well I won't totally judge him and say he's not true and going to hell, that's God's job and he knows.. but he does seem hesitant to announce sin, especially being as famous as he is, he has a huge opportunity to tell people the truth, and he has cowered many times from the interviews I've watched about him. He takes a kind of approach like, yes it's a sin, but they will go to Heaven. He doesn't really explain HOW to go to Heaven though, like believing in Jesus's death and resurrection, being born again, and sanctified.

  202. Robbin Jacobs

    Trev Bell you think you know him so well… what do you think he is not saying? Are you trying to be a vantrilaquest or is it ESP, no wait, it's just your fragile ego acting up again?

  203. Teresa Drake

    Robbin Jacobs butt out and get a life!Go play with your girlfriend! Trev IGNORE her.She obviously loves stirring the pot.She has a poor pathetic life working for satan!!

  204. Enoch O Olutayo

    This isn't about opinions or what we think, it is about the truth, facts. we can think and feel all we want but its either your with GOD or against HIM. If your with with HIM then u agree and believe HIS words, if u don't then u place your opinions above GOD'S.

  205. Betsy Ross

    Antonio, I get what you're saying. Personally, I think he was going a little bit overboard in trying not to offend anyone. In the military adultery is an offense that leads to being discharged along with many other sins in the Bible except homosexuality now. Outside of homosexuality, I've never seen a any sin go into a kid's classroom and say it's okay.

  206. Trev Bell

    Yeah Robin, lol you like trolling on the internet, lol I saw posts of you even swearing at a guy, so tell me again, why should anyone here take you seriously? lol

  207. Trev Bell

    Whew, so much hateful comments from everything. I think everyone needs to fallow the 2 greatest commandments and put them into practice and not just preach about them. If you talk about them but don't let it change yourself what use is it?

  208. Cathy Cook

    Josue Arce Ron is not pushing his agenda on anyone. He is just expressing his thoughts and feelings on how society lets bullies get away with tormenting gay people. SEXUALITY (hetero/homo/bi/trans/asexual)is not a choice or a lifestyle. Some people are just too ignorant to understand that fact.

  209. Cathy Cook

    Tina Worthey Manuel Jerry Fartwell is a perfect example of a church leader who berated and spewed hate at gay people publicly. May he roast in hell if there is one.

  210. Cathy Cook

    Joseph Beiro Man claims God said all kinds of crap. Man wrote the bible and claims God wrote it for control. Funny how people justify their hate and their prejudices using the bible, a book written 1500 years ago edited down through the years,word of mouth for hundreds of years before it went to print. The stories changed hundreds of times. FACT is God didn't say or write one word.
    BTW joseph, what were the circumstances what made you CHOOSE to be straight? Did a gay feeling come to you that you have denied and at that moment chose to be straight? Answer this one, too (If you can but I doubt it). When Hitler was exterminating the jews, blacks and gays, why wouldn't the gays choose at that time to be straight to save their own lives?

  211. Cathy Cook

    Tammy Hepler So it's ok for you to bash and bully gay people, tell them they are going to hell because of who they are and who they love but it is not ok for one to defend themselves with the same tactics?

  212. Kevin Carlie

    Barry L. Spencer God created us all with voids in our hearts and souls that can only be filled with His Love. As worldly humans, we search for substance or other things to fill those voids. Oftentimes, we feel as though we are feeling the voids, without even knowing that there is a void to feel. I wanted a girlfriend and believed that a girlfriend would make me feel complete, thats not what happened. I felt like I got my heart broken. But my efforts to guide my own life and be with that girl, engaging in sin through my lustful thoughts and actions, all of that led me to recognize that only God could fill my void. Only He can heal my heart, and only He can Heal and cleanse my soul, through His only begotten Son. Thats my testimony, but it goes similarly for homosexuals. Yes, the Bible points out that it is a sin, but God's love is perfect. He doesn't love me more than Bob because Bob sought to have sex with another man, while I sought to have sex with a woman. God loves us all the same and will cleanse and forgive us all the same. But, His Love is true Love because He gives us the CHOICE to accept His Love. I sin everyday, and accept His Love everyday, and with His Spirit, I am overcoming my lustful desires. But in the same way, a young man or woman who "was born homosexual" can overcome their homosexual desires with Jesus Christ- Philippians 4:13.

  213. Cathy Cook

    Justin Tyler Carey You sound like a very wise person. Cheryl is ignorant. You can't have a intelligent conversation with an ignoramus.

  214. Cathy Cook

    Rodney Steel I asked your mom about your stupidity when I was going down on her. She said you're the mailman's bastard child and that's what turned her gay. Tell her I said hi.

  215. Cathy Cook

    Tina Worthey Manuel Have you been living in a cave? Scientist have found the gay gene. You are in denial and are delusional. I've also noticed that you haven't answered anyone;s questions. You just keep spouting nonsense.

  216. Cathy Cook

    Donny Red Hayes There are gay people all around you and you don't even know it. Many blend right in with the crowd. Go live on a deserted island if you want to get away from all gay people. If the bible is the truth, then you are going to hell along with the gays.

  217. Antonio AR

    God is perfect,it was His mercy towards one man in that time period that saved the world from total destruction and there is proof of a world wide flood,God is not a bigot for procreation,family and to express His love in humans it is through male /female union.Humans "screwed" things up and are the cause of all the wars and suffering in the world but God does intervene in our lives it's just not reported cause it's not news worthy. It's so easy to blame God ,so much time is taken to attack/hate Him,when no time or very little time is taken to know Him and all are invited to know Him, not religion but a relationship with His son Jesus,knowing Him will help you to understand what is really happening in the world,bring you lasting love and heart filled joy,God bless

  218. Laura Simpson

    God doesn't make mistakes. The LGBT people of this world are not errors, mistakes etc. They are exactly the way God wants' them to be. Will you stand before your creator and say that he/she made a big mistake or can you open your heart and mind to the fact that God created the LGBT people and that you are not better than them?

  219. Laura Simpson

    Vicky, I'm not being mean but, I'd like to point out to you that you're basing your belief on a book that is thousands of years old, was written in a language that no longer exists, was edited fully in the times of Constantinople & translated and re-translated so many times that it is not the book it originally was meant to be . The story of S&G may not be complete in the book, I am not aware of the specific reasons that the city's were destroyed. I truly believe God makes no mistakes and that we are all works of art in progress.

  220. Laura Simpson

    Yes, Marilyn the bible does change. It has changed since it's beginning. Translated from a language that no longer existed, revised by Constantinople, king james did his thing to it and now there is the NIV. Yes, The bible changes.

  221. Cathy Cook

    CV Conner No contradictions in the bible you say? What about these verses. And these are just a few of dozens of contradictions: GE 1:3-5 On the first day, God created light, then separated light and darkness.
    GE 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night and day) wasn't created until the fourth day.

    GE 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were created before man was created.
    GE 2:4-9 Man was created before trees were created.

    GE 1:20-21, 26-27 Birds were created before man was created.
    GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before birds were created.

    GE 1:24-27 Animals were created before man was created.
    GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before animals were created.

    GE 1:26-27 Man and woman were created at the same time.
    GE 2:7, 21-22 Man was created first, woman sometime later.

    GE 1:28 God encourages reproduction.
    LE 12:1-8 God requires purification rites following childbirth which, in effect, makes childbirth a sin. (Note: The period for purification following the birth of a daughter is twice that for a son.)

    GE 1:31 God was pleased with his creation.
    GE 6:5-6 God was not pleased with his creation.

    GE 2:4, 4:26, 12:8, 22:14-16, 26:25 God was already known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) much earlier than the time of Moses.
    EX 6:2-3 God was first known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) at the time of the Egyptian Bondage, during the life of Moses.

    GE 2:17 Adam was to die the very day that he ate the forbidden fruit.
    GE 5:5 Adam lived 930 years.

    GE 2:15-17, 3:4-6 It is wrong to want to be able to tell good from evil.
    HE 5:13-14 It is immature to be unable to tell good from evil.

    GE 4:4-5 God prefers Abel's offering and has no regard for Cain's.
    2CH 19:7, AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no partiality. He treats all alike.

    GE 4:9 God asks Cain where his brother Able is.
    PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from his view.

  222. Antonio AR

    Sheila Taylor Miller
    Thanks Sheila, too many people are so quick to blame/hate God for there lifestyle and mistakes but call on Him when in trouble,like the Bible says many false teachers and those who only want to hear good/happy news and cover up sin will grow ,especially those using God's word to say He is love and using it to commit sin in "love", such foolish thinking is what makes this world continue in it's troubles,Christ came to reconcile us to God,what a perfect act of love on the cross, now on His glorious throne Jesus is our Lord who cares and loves us forever….I hope many take the time to seek Jesus and know Him not religion,to have a personal relationship with the God of the universe…God bless

  223. Stacy Suniga

    Tina Worthey Manuel Yes! Love and acceptance is the goal. Right on that. However, if you read the hebrew version of the Sodom and Gomorrah story, you would understand that the real reason for the destruction for the cities was cause the people had turned their back on God, living outside his laws and worship on a massive scale. A good historical critical study of the people and beliefs of that era would also tell you that to the "writer" believed that there were severe laws against inhospitality in such a nomadic world. The angels were there on a mission to destory the cities before the men asked for the release of the strangers. Lot offered his daughters for the rape. Did the rape of Lots daughters create less of a sin than the rape of the strangers? If you think so why? What weight did the sin of violence against strangers carry with this culture? This story has been freely used as attack homosexuals without thoughful consideration for questions like this. To make an interpretation without exhaustive consideration for all facts and then use it to attack others is bigotry. Anyone can make the bible say what ever they want through personal interpretation. Answer all the questions before you preach. We owe that to God and each other as a human race. My statements do not even take into consideration that …again… are we sure that somewhere along the centuries that someone didnt edit the text that we now have to give power and authority to their own beliefs? Or that somewhere in the apocrypha (books not considered inspired and thrown out) there may have been some information that could have given us written word on an alternate truth? For that matter.. what is truth.. and are we sure we have all the facts before we proclaim to have it?
    Maybe we miss the point entirely and focus so much on the letter of the law that we miss the spirit of it?
    BTW.. show me where Jesus condemns the" acts' of homosexuality… what 13 empires fell because of "homosexuality"… and explain to me how "evolution" doesnt support it, when there are homosexual behaviors in many species of animals who live on instinct and not choice.

  224. Jeanette Benton Stine

    CATHY COOK SO YOU CAN HEAR ME. ONE DAY YOU WILL STAND BEFORE THE GREAT GOD OF THE BIBLE, YOU WILL KNOW HIM BY HIS NAIL PIERCED HANDS. YOU WILL GIVE AN ACCOUNT OF ALL THIS YOU HAVE SAID TODAY. GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU, AND AS FAR AS NEWT IS CONCERNED WHAT HAS HE GOT TO DO WITH ANYTHING.

  225. Panda Willett

    Vicky the Bible states that the city in question was wicked, Also Modern Science and Psychology disagrees with the "Life style choice" theory.

  226. Panda Willett

    A good example of this is that the King James Versioin includes "Unicorns" where as certain other versions of the bible do not.

  227. Cathy Cook

    Jeanette Benton Stine You are ridiculous. Just because that is what you believe doesn't mean it will happen. I'm not worried. WHY HAVEN"T YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION ABOUT NEWT CHEATING ON HIS WIVES? Probably because you can't without sounding stupid.

  228. Cathy Cook

    Teresa Drake Who says a pentagram is a symbol of satan worshiping? You? If that is true then everybody who works at the Pentagon must be devil worshipers.

  229. Cathy Cook

    Marilyn – The bible HAS changed 100's of times down through the years. Verses and books have been deleted. Others added on 100's of years later. Verses have been changed to fit the religious leaders agendas.

  230. Cathy Cook

    Jeanette Benton Stine You ask what Newt has to do with anything? You posted HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN AS IS ADULTERY. Newt cheated on his 1st wife,asked for a divorce (while his wife was getting treated for cancer) so he could marry his mistress. Married his mistress and cheated on her. Asked his 2nd wife for a divorce so he could marry his 2nd mistress. I call that ADULTERY. According to the bible he should have been stoned to death twice already. You condemn the gays but give Newt the adulterer a pass? K.M.A.B.!

  231. Cathy Cook

    Teresa Drake I know many gay Christains. The only requirement to be a Christain is believe that Jesus our savior. That is it. Jesus NEVER said anything about being gay or not. So quit judging people and spewing hate and using the bible and God's name to do it which is a sin.

  232. Lilly Coulter

    Marilyn Rigler Surgeon Dang! I've been reading the Bible my whole life and I haven't found any unicorns yet…someone PLEASE tell me the book, chapter and verse where this would be found?

  233. Stacy Suniga

    CV Conner I have had the priviledge of studying with some great biblical scholars of both protestant and catholic faith.I spoke from the bible and from historical critical truth. I stand on my beliefs and the conviction that history is truth. You can spew your "beliefs" all you want, but bring evidence that backs up your preaching before you spout off. Because "you say" doesnt and shouldnt cut it in serious study circles. Perhaps you should spend more time actually studying the bible and not just read it. And even less time letting your pastor decide your beliefs for you. Doesnt compliment your attempt at biblical debate, I dont care who's church you belong to.

  234. Daniel Brisse

    Gay or homosexuality is sin. Period.
    Leviticus 18:22 says: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
    Why these crazy preachers, such as Joel is trying to round it up before saying it. He said the bible says so, but did not give even one text in the scripture.
    What a shameful misnister? I don't agree that all sins are equal, in a sense that all crimes are not punish the same way on earth. why should we think God takes all sins as equal, when the bible says the contrary.
    Is it because all sinners need to be saved by his grace? This is a totally different topic.
    alls sins against the holy spirit is unforgiven:
    Jesus, in Mark 3: 22-30, says: "all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation…

  235. Cassie Grubb

    Only one problem — 1 Corinthians 6:18 says that sexual sin is a sin against your own body. NOT a sin against the Holy Spirit. And crimes are punished differently in a democratic society. In a kindgom society (which Christians usually understand God's domain to be), crimes are punished equally. But it's all irrelevant, really, because we all have wicked and dirty sin in our life. Whether you fall short by a little or a lot, you still fall short. You could remove homosexuality from a person's life and they will STILL fall short because we ALL fall short (Rom 3:23). The question should not be "Is it sin" but "Does God's grace cover that?" And if it doesn't…well, sir, your God is very small.

  236. Daniel Brisse

    Cassie Grubb, I welcome your comments but compel to tell you that you’re far from the real problem. First I challenged Joel Olsen, the fake pastor, who says that all sins are equal in the presence of God. By showing that God sees sins different, when it comes to sin against the Holy Spirit; I put him in a corner with his prosperity gospel. Second, you are worst than the fake pastor, when using a Bible text, 1 Corinthians 6:18, out of its context.
    As I am looking at your chosen text to defend the bestiality of homosexual, I am worried. Let’s give it a closer look: 1 Corinthians 6:18, which says, as you puts it, “that sexual sin is a sin against your own body,”
    But you forget one key point about the BODY, is that in the same Corinthians 1:16, the Bible claims "that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?”
    This verse explains clearly that our BODY doesn’t belong to us but to God. To be more on point, the battle between good and evil is about controlling the BODY and whoever controls your body controls your spirit. That is the reason Christ has given his BODY in sacrifice to save us. Furthermore, verse 20 says: “For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body [c] and in your spirit, which are God’s.” when doing homo stuff, we’re not Glorifying God or ourselves but Satan.
    But what is more convincing is what is said in 1Corinthians 3: 16, 17: “ 16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.
    I invite you to read: Obama in exile, to better understand this topic.

  237. Joe Sterbinsky

    Barry L. Spencer – I CHOSE to be hetrosexual. I've had opportunities to have homosexual experiences. I chose not to. My physhology is Skinnerian. Experience rewards and/or punishes our sexual encounters. If homosexual ones are rewarded they will be pursued. If they receive negative reinforcement they will be unattractive. If humans only followed their pleasures, we would have much more rape, theivery, and peeing in public. But our humanness also provides the willpower to resist what is improper. Who decides whatis improper. We do. Some of we are guided by what we believe is the living God. In this democracy a Christian's POV is as valid as a non-Christian. We have the same right as you to impose our morals on society if we can be the majority. We have been the majority. Your side has been attacking us. We are responding

  238. Cathy Cook

    Joe Sterbinsky – So are you saying that when you are around certain people of the same sex or viewed certain photos of the same sex and your pecker got hard and the urge to have sex with them flowed throughout you body you choose not to follow up on those urges? Or are you saying that gay men 'hit' on you and you turned them down?

  239. Ron Donaghe

    To the so-called love the sinner but hate the sin respondents in this post, as I said before I can't tell the difference between your love and your hatred. I don't depend upon any version of the bible, old or new testament, so any argument posited from any of the verses hold no meaning for me. Sorry…religion just doesn't ring true to me—even when I was a child and went to church with my family. However, I've always said that I respect any person who bows his/her head in true reverence, as long as that person is seeking help for him or herself.

  240. Cathy Cook

    Why do you bible thumpers pick and choose what verses you want to follow? Can I get an intelligent answer please?

  241. Cathy Cook

    Joe Sterbinsky Are you going to answer the question I asked? What are you afraid of? If your pecker gets hard when you see a naked man, you are gay. If it doesn't, you are straight. It's not a choice.

  242. Joe Sterbinsky

    Laura Simpson – She talking about a different kind of change. Your list of changes are not changes. They are different attempts to find out exactly what it says / means

  243. Panda Willett

    Marilyn Rigler Surgeon Nu 23:22 – God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.

    Nu 24:8 – God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.

    Job 39:9 – Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?

    Job 39:10 – Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?

    Ps 29:6 – He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.

    Ps 92:10 – But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.

  244. Josue Arce

    Hi Barry my question is were you born male or female do you pick up a baby and say yep here is another homo, homosexuality is not another gender, it is a choice a heartfelt desire a lust a feeling, this feeling is being described as a thriving force for which you have no control over, you have no choice but to be what this feeling tells you to be, higher primates have the ability to control their feelings and also if you study child psychology you would learn that a child has very little notion of what he is this self of sense is instilled by those who act as their parents so to answer your question no you are not born a homosexual you are either a male or a female and this two gender have several mental and physical differences that is why you cannot be born a homosexual and Sodom and Gomorrah was a real place look it up, Look if you want to be Gay just go out and enjoy yourself have fun, but don't tell me that it is anything more than lust and selfishness, the act of homosexuality does nothing to help humanity it is mere vanity. that being said good luck to you.

  245. Lilly Coulter

    Panda Willett –WHAT version are you quoting from? I've looked up EVERY verse you quoted and each one states 'wild ox', or 'yound wild ox'. BTW< no mention of 'crib', it was manger in my NIV.

  246. Josue Arce

    Hi Stacy Suniga i agree with most of what you said but not all, yes Religion has been manipulated by people to make it convenient for themselves, yes i know about the translations of the bible that many bibles ore off and that the king James bible is the most accurate, But you are completely off on the subject of homosexuality in the bible, I truly doubt that you have studied the bible in depth, it is clear in the bible that homosexuality is a sin and goes against what GOD intended, ( go forth and be fruitful ) if you want to justify homosexuality to everybody go ahead if you want to believe that you are right go ahead but remember that you will not be able to justify it to God that is if you believe in the christian God, well good luck and take care.

  247. Panda Willett

    Lilly Coulter I used the King James Bible, my point is that the Bible does change and has changed many times. I was using "Unicorns" to illustrate this

  248. Marilyn Rigler Surgeon

    Panda Willett 2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful in teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness. Even though the scriptures have been translated many times, they are still God's word.

  249. Panda Willett

    Marilyn Rigler Surgeon , the point remains that the Bible has changed over the many years it has been published. I am not denying it has been used for good( nor that it has been used for bad either), but as a book it has been edited many times, so yes the bible does and has change.

  250. Robbin Jacobs

    Josue Arce

    With every negative word that comes out of your damaged soul, validates other sick people, like yourself, and just perpetuates the hate/dysfunction. Who cares about who is right or who is wrong. (Which basically no one is.) The most important thing to me is that we all get along and not be subject to harsh judgement and criticism. If you really do care about others then live and let live. Be there for the people who need you the most and if you have it in your soul try to be kind to all. Let god into your life so he/she can handle those things that might seem threatening or you find burdening you. Just be the best that you can be….

  251. Marie Weaver

    Trev Bell ,I DON'T BELI HE'S A WOLF I BEL HE'S A VERY GODLY MAN THAT JUST TEACHES ALL THAT WILL LEASTEN,AND JUST SAY HE IS A WOLF HE WILL HAVE'NT TO ANSWER FOR THAT NOT YOU .I BEL ITS YOUR OWN WALK WITH THE LORD AND IF YOU TRUELY BELI HES A WOLF PRAY FOR THEM..I LOVE ALL..MAY GOD BLESSED EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU..

  252. Teresa Drake

    Cathy Cook Ignorance is bliss! Put your face behind your comments coward

  253. Alejandra Herrera

    I just saw the Oprah and Olsteen interview! God is good and we need to read the bible. Homosexuals are not a good things as much as we love them in this world.

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  255. Mayowa Emjoy Adebajo

    Barry L. Spencer in other words you state that homosexuality and God cannot mix, aka where God and the bible are valid/true, homosexuality becomes a sin, in order for it to not be sin, then God and the scriptures have to be iffy.

  256. Jackie A. Murray

    We're all born into sin, but, through God with repentance there is a way out and yes homesexuality can be delivered and born again. . No sin will enter into the kingdom of heaven. Search the word of God for yourself, pray and ask God to lead and guide you into the truth. Joel, Oprah, you and me will all have to stand before the judgment seat of Christ. Don't be fooled people He's coming again soon and NO sin shall enter in.

  257. Kijo George

    I quote the statement by Joel Osteen. "But my faith is based on what I believe the Scripture says and that's the way I read the Scripture".
    Ezekiel 18:5-6 says "But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right,
    And hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, neither hath defiled his neighbour's wife, neither hath come near to a menstruous woman."
    Leviticus 15:19-30 says a woman on her periods should be alone for 7 days and if anyone touching her is a sin – I bet you none of the preachers isolate their wives when they are on their periods.
    1 Corinthians 14:34-35 "Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church – All this preachers preach along with their wives. We have women preachers and pastors.

    Deuteronomy 21:18-21 "If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him. his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid – I guess none of these preachers would do this.

    My point – Everybody reads the parts of the bible that.
    apply to their lives. I am a gay Christian, I enjoy Joel Osteen's message, I enjoy TD Jakes message. The preachers are human too.
    They both believe being gay is a sin. But I choose what is inspirational and positive in my life.
    If being gay was a sin, I would not be so blessed.
    Lets not point fingers, but lets enjoy the promises of God. He is a loving God and he created us all equally. The bible says he knew us before we were born. That means he knew who would be straight, who would be gay way before we were born.

  258. Ashley Vazquez

    Live and let live. Most religious ppl are hypocrites. Ppl think their Christian, catholic, Jewish, etc cause they go to church or a temple…its comical to me. If u don't like gays, too bad. Don't hang out with them. Simple!!

  259. Adam Hamilton

    You can tell by her demeanor that she's not enthusiastic about Joel's views. Your the man Osteen! Your were calm and collected and she looked like she was having a rough day due to her period! I thought she was a professional!

  260. James Taylor

    Vicki, I think you may be asking the question with an incorrect assumption. For instance, if a child is born with birth defects, is that because of God? Of course not. Children are born with birth defects because they are born into a sinful world. Place the blame for this on Satan, not at the feet of God. I believe that people can be born gay (I didn't use to think so). But this isn't a justification for their lifestyle. It is still a sin to engage in a homosexual lifestyle. We need to call sin what it is…..sin. So that those who have it (including myself) can get delivered from it from a loving God.

  261. Anonymous

    Robbin Jacobs SINNERS GLOATS IN IT HOMOSEXUALITY IS AN ABOMINATION. UNCLEAN DIRTY UN-PLEASURABLE. EVEN C. DARWIN MARVELED AT THE TRUTH ABOUT CREATION.

    I do accept that bible has been edit many times, but it is not denying the fact that man 2 man is unjust. come off this senseless debate why propagate it to be accepted. just few of you used by the enemy at this end time. America watch out the end time am seeing your merchants wailing from afar. THE CRY WILL BE TOO LOUD.

  262. Prissie Campbell

    Im a firm believer in Christ. Ive been reading these status of others and it has truly moved me in a awkward way. Just by hearing other believers interact in an ungodly manner disturbs me, even though knowing there would always be religious battles because everyone wants to be in line with Gods word , which is very understandable. I would just like to mention one factor of the whole GAY SINARIO. Before our life began with God we had no say or choice of whom we wanted to be, so therefore we are whom Our Creator, created
    us to be….