Kasey Kahne, NASCAR Driver, Picks on Breastfeeding Moms on Twitter

I sit here reading this as I breastfeed my 6 week old. What an ass,

seems he was giving the run on a crime of ugliness lol informing the mens not the models type we had imaged. lol or is an arse…

What a freaken moron!

Does he not get it that the baby needs to eat too? And I highly doubt she had her breast hanging out for all too see!

Why is it that if a woman has her boobs hanging out at a beach, or in a strip club, or in a bar, men think it's the greatest thing in the world; but if a woman has her boobs out to feed a hungry baby, it's gross and disgusting? I'd be willing to bet a good majority of those men were breastfed as babies. What do they think happened when THEY got hungry in public? Women have been feeding babies like this for thousands of years. GROW THE HELL UP, PEOPLE! If you can look at a woman's breast and enjoy when she's flashing them for the hell of it, then you shouldn't be having a problem looking at it when it's being used for it's God given purpose. Boobs were given to women to feed babies, NOT to please men! Take THAT and stuff it in your tailpipe!

There is a time and place for everything! I am sorry but I agree. I have 4 children. If you can breast feed great. In a grocery store NOT covered up is ridiculous.

There is a way to breastfeed in public and there is a way NOT to. There is NOTHING wrong with feeding a baby in public, HOWEVER there is no reason a woman can't cover herself so that her breasts are not exposed.

Typical dick head comment, breastfeeding is perfectly natural you tool, yeah but big fat ugly men can go around without their shirts, despicable Kasey Kahne tool.

No one wants to see this! Breastfeed in PRIVATE!

I doubt she had it all out like that…if your baby is hungry then you feed it plan and simple…I'm not giving my baby formula just you can't handle seeing part of a breast..that's what breasts are for!

But it is ok went big fat men wear no shirts, mammary glands are for feeding period.
Our wonderful patriarchal society is still punishing women; pathetic.

Glad I never had to do this but if I had people like this would send me straight to a restroom or some such.

There aren't always "private" places to feed a baby in public. What do you do then? Let the baby cry because they're hungry? I believe that most women are respectful and modest enough to cover themselves in some way while nursing a baby in public. People are just ridiculous. You can watch a show or movie on TV with all kinds of body parts on display, just for the hell of it, but you get offended by a woman feeding a poor little baby? What's wrong with this picture?

What…an…idiot! His mother must be so proud! Wonder if she breastfed him?

Seriously, Kasey, grow up. I am guessing that this lady's BREAST, as it is called, was not hanging. I find it sad and immature that you aren't smart enough to realize that breasts were meant for serving infants not your childish attitude.

Most, not all, but most places have at least a restroom. A lot of places have a family restroom. You could always go to your car. No one wants to see this in the cereal aisle at the grocery store. Sure it saves the lives of hungry children. Defecating saves lives also. Do you want to step over a pile of that in the grocery store? I see this as having respect for yourself and child, not for the other patrons of whatever place you may be in. It shouldn't be whether or not WE care to see it, but do YOU want everyone to see it?

…who said anyone likes to see big fat men's breasts? really? I think the article which is rightly backing nursing mother's goes overboard against race car drivers' and their fans. Just stating you know nothing about them and then saying they're all macho men-types is just as bad as what he did to the woman breastfeeding…..you can't have it both ways, Kim!

For those of us who bottle fed our babies, we often got jousted for feeding our babies from a bottle by those same breastfeeding mothers who are now looking for protection – it goes both ways

Andy Wouldbe Would YOU go into the restroom to eat? If YOU wouldn't, why should a baby be forced to eat in a smelly, germ-infested bathroom? Have you seen some of the restrooms in theses stores? Do you think you could eat while someone was sitting 2 feet away from you taking a crap? You're an idiot! Also, if it's 30 degrees outside, are you really going to expect a mother to sit out in a car with a baby? If she is covered, what the hell is the problem? Grow up, or shut up!

I think for men the breast is a sexual stimulation and to see a baby suckling from the breast turns them off or haunts them in their minds when they (men) to play/suckle from them.

Andy Wouldbe How about YOU eat in a restroom? And if you're really comparing defication to EATING remind me to never have dinner at YOUR house.

I understand some people live in shame that the human body is only supposed to be naked in the dark. Wake up there was a time when all your needs depended on another human to feed you. Since than you can choose how and where you eat. My question for those of you who suggest a woman feed her baby in a restroom, do you eat where everyone takes a crap? I don't think so, maybe if there was a restraunt full of crappers where everyone ate. we wouldn't be offended when you expect our children to eat in that wonderful environment.

Terri Yanick Most cars nowadays have heaters installed from the factory. Air conditioning too, so temperature outdoors shouldn't be a problem. If a restroom in a public facility is unacceptably clean, request that it be given the attention that it needs. It isn't as if you are eating an open plate of food on the toilet. As for growing up, I'm not the one here calling people idiots. Have respect for your child and feed them in private if you must breast feed them. Should I be given the right to urinate in public since it is, after all, a natural and necessary function of the human body? Of course not. Find a discrete place to breast feed your baby if they must be fed while in a public setting. This isn't rocket science.

No one wants to see your idiotic face, Deborah. Wear a bag over your head!

Because you ALWAYS eat in a restroom, right?

Sorry, I agree with most of what he said. At least cover it up. I don't care about the excuses that people are going to come up with to slam back at my statement. Point blank, I would not want my child to see something like this in public, nor would I ever DREAM of exposing myself in this manner, so three words can solve this issue, "cover it up".

Nancy Wyatt I made zero comparison to defecation and eating, other than them being necessary bodily functions. Should they be allowed in public? Again, have respect for your child and keep it as private as possible. And Nancy, never mind the dinner invitation I emailed you…

Andy Wouldbe .. please don't bread. If you really think URINATING & DEFICATING is the SAME thing as EATING you're too stupid to be a parent.

Shawn Olsen Seriously, there is no punishment there. Cover the tit up. That's what most people are saying.

Nancy Wyatt Where do keep reading that I said defecating is the same as eating? They are both necessary functions of the human body. They are completely separate, but necessary actions. And don't worry Nancy, I won't "bread." I'm not much of a baker anyways. If you meant "breed," you can make decisions for me once you learn to spell.

Amy Lacey Not, most are neandrathals and they booed Mrs Obama and Mrs Biden when they were there to support our military people, so that in itself shows how much class they have, actions speak louder than words Amy. Well why are men allowed to walk around like that in public and breastfeeding women are made light of.

Nancy Wyatt Seriously, if all the mothers would just cover it up, this really wouldn't be an issue. It's not difficult. Spit rags work great for that, so do receiving blankets. Sorry, but I don't want to see a woman's breast out in public either. It's just common courtesy, and honestly? It involves self-respect too. I get it, the baby is hungry, by all means, feed him/her, but don't have the breast out for the world to see.

Heather Baker … if breastfeeding offends you put a blanket over YOUR head.

Seriously… it's a breast. Grow the F*CK UP & get the F*CK OVER It.

Ya but all kinds of breast are showed constantly on tv but a woman breastfeeding is called too much, give me a break Vanessa breasts are mammary glands for babies period.

Andy Wouldbe Again, would YOU want to sit in a restroom, where people are having bowel movements that smell extremely bad, and feed a baby for the 15-20 minutes it takes for a baby to nurse? What if the mother has to closely monitor the gas she uses in her car to make it last for a whole week. If she has to run her car to keep warm or cool, how long do you think it will last, if she runs her car every time the baby is hungry? There ARE rooms for you to use to relieve yourself when you are not at home. There ARE NOT rooms for breastfeeding mothers to use, that are solely for that purpose. The purpose of public restrooms, is for people to use them to go to the bathroom. They stink, because people use them for their intended purpose. There is NO WAY I would sit in a stinky bathroom to feed a baby. Why don't YOU try sitting in a bathroom sometime, for about 15-20 minutes, and see how much of an appetite YOU have. You are being ridiculous!

Terri Yanick Right on Terri people are so hypocritical because they see breasts as sex object not for what they were truly made for.

Andy Wouldbe and once you learn the difference between bodiy WASTE & NUTRIENTS then you can be allowed out without your mommy.

It's a BREAST. Get over it & GROW THE F*CK UP!

Jennifer Pete Desrochers Exactly Jennifer.

Terri Yanick Boy i couldn't have said it better myself.

Sorry about your luck, sweetheart, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if they disagree with yours. I just happen to think it's not polite to whip a tit out in public. Who cares if you don't like my opinion? Not me, not really. And you would think with such an adorable child as your profile pic, you would have a little bit of better manners. You don't have to be a b*tch about it.

GROW UP KASEY!

Why you afraid of seeing some breast bull some people are still in the Dark ages. Deborah what are you afraid of your boyfriend or husband getting turned on give me a break.

Terri Yanick If you can't afford gas to run your car for 15-20 minutes to feed your child, then you have problems beyond where you are breast feeding. Again, have respect for your child and yourself. However empowered you feel about breast feeding in public, no one cares. Keep it to yourself. Stinky restroom, running car that you may or may not have the money to pay for gas in, keep it to yourself.

Oh and by the way, I was breastfed as a child, and you know what? My mother covered me up with a blanket in public, so don't act all self-righteous.

@Andy you should GROW UP TOO!

Nancy Wyatt Thanks Nancy just got a wonderful laugh reading your post.

@ Andy.. it is also ILLEGAL to urinate & deficate in PUBLIC & there's a REASON for that. Your bodily waste is a BIOHAZARD. It is NOT ILLEGAL to breastfeed in public & obviously you do NOT know the difference between eating & eliminating bodily waste. If you did you wouldn't make such a RIDICULOUS comparison.

But please… feel free to piss alll over the produce section. Jail is where you BELONG since you won't be able to procreate in THERE & you'll learn a thing or two about the human body that you OBVIOUSLY do NOT know!

Yes but this issue is about our society and how women are made to feel about their bodies also, all of the hypersexualization is ok but not breastfeeding in public, really and I myself didn't breastfeed, it is just the principle of it. Patriarchy is alive and well in the 21st century

You people are truly amazing. Learn to read and take things in the context that they are meant. Get over yourselves and understand the fact that it isn't about seeing a boob. It's about having respect for yourself and other people around you. RESPECT people, not body parts.

Boobies are for babies. Too bad you're so close-minded that you don't want to "expose" your kids to a mother sustaining her child's life.

Heather Baker It is PERFECTLY LEGAL to breastfeed in PUBLIC. It is PERFECTLY LEGAL for a woman to walk topless down the street of NEW YORK CITY!

It's because of women like you & your prudish attiude towards breasts that women & their breasts are viewed as sex objects.

As for my "manners". I'm not the one staring at women breastfeeding. I turn away. Apparently YOU don't have the ability to avert your eyes. Work on your OWN manners before lecturing people on theirs.

Kasie Mamatat Ray And it's too bad that you are so close-minded to realize that everyone is entitle to their own opinions. Flat out, I do not want to see another woman's tit out in public. Sorry. I would not expose mine like that, it's rude.

back off this woman (Deborah) she has a right to her opinion without being called names – as a woman with 3 children, i don't want to see anybody's boobs hang out either – i agree feed them in public if you can cover them up but many of these breastfeeding women do believe they have a right to let it all hang out and as a mother of teenage sons, that just isn't right….

Wow, that one took awhile. lol I don't really care, do you not understand? I think it is HILARIOUS how riled up you are getting over this! LMAO

Nancy Wyatt Grow up. I'm probably half your age and I can tell that I have more respect for others than you've got in your pinky finger. And next time I take a dump in the lettuce bin at the produce department I hope it goes on your next turkey sandwich.

Nancy Wyatt , but I would have clean hands and I'd feel safe.

Heather Baker, are you always this catty (that's the nice "c" word that comes to mind), or is today just a really special day for you? Also, is "B*tch" the best you can do? Just go back into your little white trash cave and play keep-up-with-the-Joneses, k, Sugar?

Nursing mothers have the RIGHT to nurse publicly. Don't like it? Stay home. It's as simple as that. Otherwise, sit down, shut up and go eat dinner in the bathroom, then get back with us to tell us how tasty and sanitary it was for you.

Now for my own personal shot: Your mother should have taught YOU basic manners as well as respect for others after she was through nursing you. I'm so disappointed YOU are breeding (and let's all hope Kasey isn't too.) I nursed mine publicly. I also tube-feed the one who couldn't nurse. Are you going to tell me how horribly gross that is, too? Should I cover up his feeding pump tubing so you aren't offended by my keeping that child alive?

Nancy Wyatt thanks to militant "my breastfeeding comes before your rights" moms, my teenage sons will never have to enter a strip club – they've seen it all – unfortunately they were saggy awful things

Wah! I'm Kasey the NASCAR driver and I want boobies to only be for ME! Me, me, me, me, me! *stomps feet*

What a tool he is.

Kasie Mamatat Ray Oh no honey, I'm ALWAYS a cunt. Just ask my fiance, he'll tell you. But see, here's the deal, I didn't dish out foul language and hateful messages until they were dished on me. And if you want to think I'm white trash, go right ahead. Some of the best and smartest people I know are white trash according to the obvious standards you have. But here is the thing, we are ALL entitled to our own opinion. Grow up and accept it.

Kasie Mamatat Ray, I also have the RIGHT to my own opinion. And by the way, I'm a bitch all the time. Thanks for asking!

Oh wah. I'm just hoping your sons don't breed, because I have a strange feeling their wives will be required to be submissive and put your sons wants before any future kids' hunger needs.

(And nice shot at keeping up the "saggy nursey boobies" trope. I just LOVE straw man arguments!)

Andy Wouldbe Your mother probably breastfed you when you were a baby; do you think SHE went into a bathroom? NO, because up until a few years ago, it was perfectly fine for a woman to discreetly breastfeed a baby in public. Now, there are all kinds of whiners and complainers, crying about how THEY don't want to see it. First of all, if you don't want to see it, DON'T LOOK! Secondly, why is it ok for a woman's breasts ,(or other body parts), to be on display to please men, but a woman can't feed her baby from her breast without somebody getting all indignant and getting their panties all in a twist? Also, I never said I couldn't afford anything. My kids are all well past breastfeeding age; however, I DID breastfeed all of my children, and I did it in public, when necessary, but I did it discreetly. You know how many people complained about it? NONE! 12 years ago, there weren't a bunch of people whining about everything everybody does. Does it make you jealous because YOU want to be in the baby's place? Can you not stand the sight of women? I'm 42 years old, and I have NEVER seen a woman breastfeeding in public that did not have herself covered up. If a woman is covered, what's the big deal?

Kasie Mamatat Ray Wow, you all are WAY overboard offensive with this shit. Why not just agree to disagree and accept that we will not ever see eye to eye on this? Come on now, it's the internet, it's not serious. Damn.

Terri Yanick As I said in a previous post, if you must do it keep it as private or discrete as possible. I have zero problem with it being done, but when someone does have with it you should understand that this is a private act being done in public and should be treated as such. And yes Terri, I would LOVE to be sucking breast milk out of a boob in the meat department of my store, I really would. And I absolutely can't stand the sight of women. Just ask my current and past girlfriends. I suppose in your 42 years on Earth that you've learned a thing a two about respect a maturity. Why not put them to use? Why make immature comments and act dumb?

Heather Baker What the hell are you so afraid of heather baker your husband getting turned on, mammary glands are for feeding period, yah most misogynist patriarchal people that are afraid of the human body, just stupid.

I got no problem with a women breastfeeding…i think its wonderful to watch…hey kid save some for me!

Heather Baker But we have to look at womens cleavage constantly on television commercials, programs etc, and with breastfeed you might have to look at a nipple, OMG give me a break.

Shawn Olsen No, I just honestly find it rude. It's not just against women, I don't want to see men running around without their shirts on either. Sheesh, you people are so friggin' seriously about this shit!

Andy Wouldbe : I would like to see the natural act of breast feeding in public by any woman anywhere. I would also like to see men take responsibility for their own reactions to this natural act. It is like beauty good or disgusting according to the eyes of the beholder. You compare it to defecation – what does that tell you about yourself and your own values?

OMG PEOPLE! CHILL! We all have different opinions! I do not want to see ANYONE in public without a shirt on! Sheesh! This ain't just about women.

Heather Baker yes that it what i thought, afraid your husband might see someone else's boobs,just sad.

My opinion on it.

Shawn Olsen Actually no, I'm not affraid at all. I just don't wanna see it. Good gracious, you people need to just step back and breathe.

@Linda Knisley: Why should she cover AS IF she were doing something shameful? It is only the attitudes of men who have made us feel ashamed of our selves for acting naturally.

Heather Baker get over it if you don't want to see turn your f**king head your just afraid your man might get turned on.

Amy Lacey No – it is not the same at all.

I see that anyone here over the age of 40 has zero possibility of having an open mind, especially a woman over the age of 40. Agree to disagree if you must, but if you could have the respect to think of other people in these situations maybe they (I in this situation) wouldn't think of you as complete morons who are incapable of having an open mind and thinking of both opinions. Goodnight, retards!

Shawn Olsen And you are just sad that i'm not. it seems like YOU'RE the one who is turned on by it. Now stop trippin' on it. Sheesh.

Shawn Olsen Like the pic first of all. I did not breastfeed either( Unable to but wanted to) and I have yet to see a mother with her breast exposed while feeding her child and I agree we need to have equal rights for all not just chosen few.

Andy Wouldbe: Comparing breastfeeding to defecating? Really? They're not at all the same. BTW, many of the same people who complain about breastfeeding in public are the same ones who complain when the baby starts crying in line at the grocery store. We're supposed to drop everything and walk out? Sorry. Not gonna happen. Chances are, it's the only time during the week we're able to even get to the store.

He is an idiot. I bet if it was his wife (if he's even married) feeding their baby it would be a different story. He didn't think it was gross. He was just mad cause the baby had her boob blocked where he couldn't see the whole boob. If he was at strip club he would probably be the first one to stuff five dollar bills in her thong. I bet if that same women walked by him and flashed him, he wouldn't be complainting about that. He would run to all his buddies saying guess what happened to me. Laugh his butt off and have a hi ho time telling them about it. MEN!

Nestle company made formula for mothers in Africa to seduce them into giving up breast feeding. Do you think the marketing practices of companies that convince us to deny natural methods has anything to do with "health for baby" …no it is all about money for the corporate coffers! If you were made to feel bottle feeding is a better choice then you have been had by the "man". Sorry you weren't better able to think for your self and see thru the advertizing strategies. Bottles are a recent thing since World War II. Breast feeding has existed from the beginning of mammalian evolution.

Alyssa Lupo-Zulueta Respect people. If you're in public, just have respect for yourself and everyone else around you.

Why should i as a breastfeeding mother go to a public bathroom or hide in my car just to not offend some other person. If and when my child is hungry I will stop shopping to sit down where I want to feed said hungry child and should you see part of my exposed breast while the blanket slips or im not able to completely cover then turn away and dont look. HOLY SHIT GROW UP AND SHUT THE HELL UP

Kathi Grace so…..using your logic, it would be ok for a man to pull his penis out and urinate in plain sight of anyone who happens to be within sight? I never SAID it was something shameful – it is common courtesy – something that is sorely lacking in this day and age – for a nursing mother to respect others and cover herself while breastfeeding her baby.

I forgot to include that the African babies died in large numbers b/c the water used to mix the formula was dirty…did the sellers of the formula care? of course not.

Kathi Grace – you know NOTHING about me… you are right, i wasnt' thinking for myself when i let nipple nazis try to tell me that breastfeeding is the only way… i tired to breast feed out of guilt but my son failed to grow – i haven't been had by "the man" as you say and i sure as hell aren't going to be had by a militant women either who think women shouldn't have a right to feed their baby as they choose – you, my lady seem to be the only that's been had cheers

Heather Baker It is only rude b/c you have been taught to be ashamed of your God-given ability to have breasts and feed your children.

Andy Wouldbe , I have a very healthy respect for myself and others. Unlike you, I don't resort to name-calling and I DO use practical, logical arguments. When you're the one responsible for nursing a baby, then you can tell us how to feel. And you want to talk about respect? How about respecting the LEGAL RIGHT of a woman to nurse in public, and not have to hide or cover up because it makes you uncomfortable. And, yeah, I'm over 40 and I'm open- minded. I just don't take any crap anymore from people who have never walked in my shoes and never will.

Heather Baker Are you aware that this is cultural? In many African and other countries no woman covers her upper body and children nurse in public….then the missionaries arrive and distribute their shame and guilt.

Patriarchy my ass! I'm sick and tired of women who just whip out the entire breast no matter where they are. There are many light fabrics available that can be used as covers. It is possible to be discreet. I'm especially fed up with the ones who deliberately expose themselves and glare around defiantly because THEY ARE TRYING TO START TROUBLE. Women who behave this way in fact bolster the patriarchy by giving force to the argument that women should remain at home. It has NOTHING to do with body image!

Alyssa Lupo-Zulueta I'll message you my address and you can send me a pair of your shoes. Assuming they fit, I'll let you know what revelations I come up with!

Heidi, if you haven't seen these women, you don't get out much. They're everywhere, disrespecting the general public and giving breastfeeding mothers a bad name!

Heather Baker, and yet you're still responding. Exactly who might need to "get over it"?

Tracey, I'll choose "militant BFer" over "militant female misogynist" any day!

Kids need to eat. breasts produce milk. Problem solved, and nicely so. I didn't have to lug around bottles, formula or anything other than some wipes and a diaper tucked behind the seat of my car. I reduced my carbon footprint, slept really well thanks to night-nursing and *gasp* still managed to have a sex life, too!

If some NASCAR dweeb can't get over the fact that men aren't entitled to tits-on-demand, then it's his problem, not a nursing mom's. While i don't have the right to not be offended, he doesn't have the right to be scientifically and sociologically inaccurate and to be an ahole without consequences. Those consequences are that a whole slew of PO'd pro-nursing folks will, indeed, call him on his crap.

Yes it is; it's called prejudice. Whether you're a Nascar driver or reporter, etc. you don't have the right to pre-judge someone based on what they are doing or what they do for a living; so they are the same in that sense.

BTW, I didn't nurse my kids in public. But I support those who do. And if it makes me uncomfortable, I look away.

Priv Person O I am sure some just flop it out but I have seen woman breastfeed and they are well covered up. But then again is kinda cold to be exposed here in Vermont

Apparently he hasn't been there, done that! He has never been one of my favorite drivers and I really don't like that he's moving to Hendrick Motor Sports this coming year! This could get interesting with 2 of his new team mates having young kids…lol!!

Tracey Floyd Viars Did you ever investigate why your son failed to grow during breast feeding? In your case bottle feeding may have been necessary. My mother who was a very nervous woman and who had been in labor for 3 days giving birth to me also was unable to nurse. I had to be fed by a bottle because or her health issues. Immune problems often result when the infant's immune system doesn't get the kick-start given by nursing. There is no doubt, however, that nature's way is the best way except when that is not possible. Sounds like you were not really wanting to breast feed according to how I read your post.

Andy Wouldbe your as big as an idiot as Kasey Kahne! I can't believe someone would compare breastfeeding a baby to taking a dump. That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Most women that breastfeed place a blanket over them. For you to compare breastfeeding to that is so stupid that I can't even express. I bet your mother breast fed you. OR maybe not maybe you were starved and that's what's wrong with you!

Kathi Grace addtionally, since babies in Africa die every day by starvation and dirty drinking water – i'm going to commend any company that's trying to prevent that…whether or not they are breastfed is i'm guessing the least of worries of babies in Africa ….but, then again, i don't question everyone's intentions without knowing the whole story

Just a young and immature jock speaking before moving his lips. I've learned to try and see the good in those stupid little $hits.

AMEN!!!! Angie…you told them!!!!!

And I bet this fool watches Girls Gone Wild drooling and slapping his knee. Sheesh.

Tracey Floyd Viars While you investigate this whole story about Africa look into the facts about the effects of corporate business practices and the degradation of the natural environment there…leading to undrinkable water and unusable lands. the women I spoke of were nursing babies according to custom for thousands of years quite well but were convinced they should do otherwise despite the problem with water in mixing formula. The Nestle company was and is interested in profit … not health for mothers or babies. Look a little deeper.

Kathi Grace – are they babies in any better shape breast feeding if the mothers are malnurished themselves? Also, no didn't want to breast feed but i felt guilted into it and though my son was failing to thrive, i still had "activist" type nurses and la leche people trying to convince me even though the doctor's were telling me to stop that my baby wasn't growing and wasn't maintaining proper weight. I am a small person, was in incredible physical shape, had very little in the way of fat stores and so that may have been why it didn't work. My son latched on fine but there was nothing there. I had a very difficult c-section and breast feeding also left me tired and depressed because it really does put all of the work of childcare on the mother – no one else can help, no one can be involved – i was exhausted trying to heal and nurse a baby every two hours..it was HELL – if breastfeeding was the only way for me, it'd be the best birth control ever invented because it would have prevented me from having another child for sure…i went on to have two more – all three are very healthy, they make good grades, they are athletic and except for one who is allergic to penecillan, they no allergies, or asthma or any of the other negatives that women are warned of who don't breast feed and i can't tell you the number of times i had pro-breastfeeding women come up to me and rip me a new one in public for doing my baby a disservice…I think women should feed their babies how they like, but i'd prefer my teenage sons not to have to see their entire exposed breast and i've actually seen a women nursing with her shirt off in public

pump it and bottle it if your taking the kid out in public…how hard is that?

The reason many women choose not to bottle their breastmilk Laura comes down to the issue of nipple confusion…bottles release milk much faster and therefore babies will sometimes refuse to breastfeed when they are always being handed a bottle. Studies have also shown direct links to hormonal release when breastfeeding directly from the breast, which in turn cause cause a loss of important hormones in children when they refuse to breastfeed after a bottle feeding…to answer your question, it can be very hard for an educated female to ignore the risks of breast to bottle switching in many cases.

what did women do in the old days when it was improper to go out of the house without a hat on let alone take out your breast to feed your child in public?

Laura Schumacher They didn't leave the house for long periods of time and many women around that time started switching to formula if they did leave the home…in fact it took a group of rebel women in the 1930's and 1940's to begin changing the false opinion that formula is more healthy. Also there was a persistent problem with information at that time, for example the American paediatrician Joseph Brennemann argued that it was actually HURTING babies to breastfeed and he gained the support of other doctors with very little evidentiary proof. Iit wasn't until studies from New Zealand crossed over to Britain and eventually the United States that breastfeeding was once again examined and formula companies were eventually no longer able to advertising that their formula and bottle feeding was better (It's still illegal to this day for formula companies to advertise via mass media in Britain in terms of having a healthier or decent options versus breastmilk)….In fact it was Dr. Helen Deem in the 1940's who pointed out the scary fact that mothers were breastfeeding at astronomically low levels. In 1937 KARO entered the market as an almost an "almost exact match to mother's milk."

So to answer your question, women during the 1950's made improper health choices for their babies when they were capable of breastfeeding because they believed formula was better. Today there are typically three classes of women with children, those who breastfeed, those who can't breastfeed for many various reasons (health issues, long work hours, low production of milk supply), and those who are too lazy to breastfeed.

wow, you are very knowledgable, thank you!

Kathi Grace because we do not want to see your boobs

I am so sick and tired of women defending this in public. If your child is still being breastfeed, be a real mother and keep your child at home where they should be and not exposed to the numerous germs flying around in public places! Jeez!

Agreed with Deborah. A woman whipping her boob out in the produce isle is NOT something I'm prepared for when shopping for my food. There's a time and a place, and that is NOT one of them.

fer goodness sake, let her get her tits out to feed if she wants to : P

i would rather see naturalness than false tits anyday..as a matter of fact im sick of seeing the same old tits all the time. : )

Mark Lambert Then don't look! Who has control over YOUR EYES ?

Seriously? Pediatricians recommend breast feeding for a year. So to be a "real mother" I'm supposed to keep my kids in my house for an entire year?

Tracey Floyd Viars : I am sorry that your experience after giving birth was so negative. This thread is more a general conversation about whether Kahne's remarks were ok or not. I think the habit of condemning women is so prevalent that we even condemn ourselves, mirroring the sexism we grew up with, unless we question it and think differently in our own behalf. I don't know how you were spoken to by women who wanted to encourage you to breast feed or how you interpreted what they said to you. Your experience was different from mine b/c I, while also in recovery from C-sections both times, used the feeding times to relax with the baby and enjoy the experience of nurturing and closeness with the baby. I did not feel burdened by the feeding times. If you have no milk or not enough milk to keep the baby happy for 4 hours perhaps that tension contributed to the problem, especially if you felt forced and burdened. Everyone has a different attitude and therefore a different experience. One's health and emotional state play a large role in how we experience the same events in life.
I do believe the natural act of nursing, where possible, is better for the child as a biologist b/c it is in harmony with nature.
In answer to your opening question: Yes the babies in the case I was using for an illustration were fine during breast feeding because the mothers while living differently from American women were healthy. But they were enticed by an advertising campaign b/c business came first.
Your comment about having little in the way of fat stores is interesting to me from the standpoint of biology. Some fat on women is a good thing but not encouraged by our culture. The most important thing, I believe, is that you have healthy children as I do and am grateful for as I imagine you are.
May I offer you a suggestion to use or not as you see fit? Avoid plastic containers for food and drink for your kids and where you can use organic food products to maintain your health and the health of your family. Plastic chemicals act like hormones in the body and disrupt many chemical pathways. Organic foods are grown without the use of petroleum pesticides and herbicides. It really does make a difference over the course of one's life. I wish you good health and Peace of mind and heart.

James Johnson : Thanks for the details. Advertising convinces us of many 'good" things that are completely . It pays to examine our own conditioning!

Kathi Grace thank you – we do eat mostly orgnaic and mostly non-processed – I coach people in fitness/health and i always say if you eat only what God makes, you're in good shape I will say that I don't feel cheated and didn't feel any less close to my kids because i fed them with a bottle – i held them the same way a breast feeding mom would, they just didn't get it from my body – I know women say it's an "intimate" connection, i just don't get that. And at the risk of me being a sexist (and i'm probably going to get pummled on here) – As a opposed to your theory regarding "big business and it being about money" I wonder sometimes if breastfeeding advice wasn't a little overexaggerated by doctors (who at one time were majority male) as a way to keep women at home nursing babies instead of joining the competitive world – just my theory…but i have no regrets for the decisions i made and am glad that you had a great experience feeding your children in the way it worked for you

Tracey Floyd Viars ; GLAD to hear that you and I are on a similar page regarding nutrition. From your description it sounds like you did get the bonding experience while feeding your children. The closeness and emotional bonding works whether using breast or bottle. RE: male drs encouraging women to breast feed to keep us out of the competitive world…who knows…anything is possible. Of course given the time (I was born in the early 40s and just had my 70th b'day this month) it could have been a stage in the evolution of new ideas. Childbirth was the domain of women until recently. My grandmother for example never had a doctor – only a midwife. Things change. I just hope to hold on to what is good from the past as we hurtle into the future.

Kathi Grace funny – generational differences – i was born in the 60's and i'm so about looking forward without too much regard for the past – i love changes and modernization – i also work in social media and talk to companies that are social media resistant about how they can use social media to grow their businesses – funny you appreciate the past but you are involved with social media on a personal basis – good for you for staying "hip" my mother is 70 and has no interest in FB, social media, etc… It is such a great way to commuinicate, learn & share ideas!

Tracey Floyd Viars I agree that social media is a great way to communicate and to learn. My children don't think I text enough…my son said recently to me :Keep your phone on and we can text you anytime" I thought OMG no time to myself! LOL My son was born in '66 and my dgtr in 73 on the same date. Mostly I want to be able to talk with via text my grandchildren and some former students of mine that I am still friends with. Also, I didn't mention that I am a holistic health consultant and teach yoga, meditation, and body/mind/spirit therapies.
When I was younger I thought as you do re: the future vs past. In later years as I watch things change so quickly around me I am happy to cling to some of the things I value from the past. My future includes the end of my life which stands much more sharply in my vision than it did even 10 years ago. It changes one's perspective to be more conscious of mortality. Thank God I am in good health though so may even make it into my 90s like a first cousin of mine who died recently.

Kathi Grace Very true Kathi. I am not an "Endorser" of formula, however I don't deny some women need to use it and if not enough breastmilk is being produced it can make for a good supplemental regime.

James Johnson My post above said "Advertising convinces us of many 'good' things that are completely false". For some reason the word false dropped out. Gremlins I guess. Yes, Sometimes formula is necessary since we don't have the custom of 'wet nurse' in our culture any more.

It's "freaking," you moron.

Scott 'Casper' Uhlott … I'm from Brooklyn… And, yes I know it's spelled, " freaking"… So, maybe I type the way I speak… But who's the moron now?

Elaine E. Ranc It would be you to an even greater degree, purposefully bastardizing the English language.

Andy Wouldbe Spoken like a true, entitled male.

Oh, grow up, lady.

Maybe your husband ought not to ogle?

Tracey Floyd Viars Maybe learn how to write properly, honey, then look up the term the term "nazi" and find out it's REAL meaning. "Militant" women gave you your rights in this world, dear, so learn to be a little grateful. You have choices, nobody made you do anything. I kind of pity your son, dear. Cheers!

I don't care for the things so-called parents find offensive for their children. Maybe I don't want to see your smug, spoiled brat out in public and since I'm a taxpayer…get the picture, lady? Yes, women don't have to cater to your brat? Maybe try to control your husband's wandering eye. Oh, and they are called BREASTS

Heather Baker Yes because we have been made to think women's bodies are dirty, bull crap patriarchal society does this over and over again, and yes if your a puritan you thing they should cover up, what about the Victoria's Secret crap you can see everything but the nipple and men have nipple do I say let mother's every pull out their breasts for equality Heather!

Think!
too.

Mark Lambert Oh but i am sure you look at the Victoria Secret model boobs right you sexist tools, breasts are for feeding babies get over it.

Bull Deborah Ladym, Breasts are for feeding and if you don't want to see do not look.

OMg your child might see a breast call out the boob police, this is why in this country we have such a stupid attitude about sex, can you say puritans. YOU might become blind right Heather, give me a break.

Yes well men walk around without shirts all the time.

Ryan you fing dick you sexist jerks are so neandrathal but I bet you watch the booby show on Victoria Secred night right you tool Ryan Pettovello you are the one that is sick and what the hell would you know about being a "REAL MOTHER" YOU a HOLE!

Heather Baker Save it for your family, honey.

Heather Baker Not mothers being the disgusting members of society with poor manners and bad social skills.