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Cliven Bundy Says ‘The Negro’ Comments Taken Out Of Context [Carol Bundy Interview]

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Cliven Bundy has come under fire for “the negro” comments made during a Saturday press conference at Bundy ranch. A New York Times article about the public meeting has gone viral and drawing backlash as the Nevada rancher has been deemed a racist. The speech Bundy made was recorded and still available for watch online. The statements made by the Nevada rancher who garnered support from hundreds of thousands of people around the world after armed BLM agents arrived in Bunkerville, do appear to have been taken out of context.

The New York Times article which has now been republished by The Blaze and a host of other media outlets, does not include a video of Cliven Bundy’s speech or a comment from the Gold Butte are rancher about the allegedly derogatory racial statement. The Times piece stated that Bundy wondered whether “blacks might have been better off as slaves picking cotton” when referencing the rancher’s remarks about “the negro.”

The excerpt, taken out of context, could easily be construed as an utterance by someone with a racial bias, but when followed by the rest of Cliven Bundy’s remarks about the lack of freedom in America despite the passage of decades and the heralding of the work ethic and regard for family by Mexican immigrants, both legal and illegal, the racism claims appear to unravel.

Carol Bundy, Cliven’s wife, accepted a telephone interview request with The Inquisitr, and explained in detail what her husband’s motivation was for his words, and encouraged everyone to watch the recorded encounter to garner a more clear understanding of what was actually said.

Carol Bundy on Cliven’s remarks:

“What he was saying, and perhaps not as eloquently as was relayed, that America is becoming a welfare state that makes us more reliant upon the government and eats away at the freedom of us all. He was attempting to point out what little progress has been made for black people who once lived in slavery. During that point in our history, black people were totally reliant upon someone else for their food, homes, etc. and not much has changed, sadly, in many cases for poor black families. Slavery was wrong, horrible, and we do not support that. Cliven was trying to illustrate how dire the situation was not only in the past, but currently, and how it will negatively impact the future, if Americans, of any color, continue to be dependent upon the government to survive.”

Of course any loving wife will support her husband and desperately want to stop any bashing against him, but Carol’s take on Cliven’s speech and mindset do appear to coincide with the entirety of his speech about the state of many poor black families in his area of Nevada. Just before launching into the comparison about black people living under slavery and the modern poor black family, Bundy was addressing government bureaucracy, freedom to earn a living and use resources, and the number of people now living dependent upon the government to meet their daily needs. Carol also referenced history and fate of Native Americans and how the federal government infringed upon their freedoms, leaving whole generations of families living on reservations without many prospects for a self-reliant existence.

Excerpt from the Bundy ranch press conference which reference Mexican immigrants:

“Now let me talk about the Spanish people. You know I understand that they come over here against our Constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people. I’ve worked side-by-side a lot of them. Don’t tell me they don’t work. Don’t tell me they don’t have better family structures than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together. And I’ll tell you, in my way of thinking, they’re awful nice people.”

Cliven Bundy is nearly 70, he comes from a generation that had never heard the phrase political correctness. His “the negro” phrasing may have raised eyebrows, but after listening to his speech several times, it truly does not seem that his intend was to diminish the evils of slavery or chastise a specific race of people. According to both Carol Bundy’s interview statements and the recorded speech, Cliven was attempting, in his own unpolished manner, to note how a lack of freedom and reliance upon the government has negatively impacted the America family and the concept of self-reliance.

In Bundy’s view, having too much time on your hands, being unaware of the sense of accomplishment which comes working to provide for the family, and not having enough money to engage in positive leisure activities sparked the troubles which face not only low-income and minority neighborhoods, but increasing the nation as a whole. Cliven referenced the intent of the Founding Fathers for the new nation they gave birth to and the sense of duty we have to correct the course we are currently on to ensure freedom and the benefits of self-reliance and not government dependence for future generations.

How do you feel about Cliven Bundy’s comments?

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24 Responses to “Cliven Bundy Says ‘The Negro’ Comments Taken Out Of Context [Carol Bundy Interview]”

  1. Colleen Lloyd

    It's obvious that Cliven was actually supportive of people of all races and was making a point about how the government oppresses them. The corporate government media puppets have had a whole lifetime of Cliven to pick through like a haystack and this is the stretching they had to do to twist his one statement which he said publicly without hatred or shame, to demonize him. Shows how desperate they are. We know them and have been there and there was not one racist thing said. They are good people. The only hate is coming from people who are on their knees hanging Around the Government Fort attacking anyone with the rocks to stand up to the unlawful terrorism of the feds, not Cliven.

  2. Colleen Lloyd

    I guess the black people and natives and Mexicans there were White Supremacist too LOL – the media is clearly out to stereotype Cliven and his supporters, many of whom are vets and decent hard-working family people who are and educated and aware and have great long-standing relationships with native people. I was attacked for days non-stop on comment threads by brainwashed hateful idiots who are talking out their asses who don't know anything about the Bundys or treaty or federal law or the background of the issue or situation but they love to pass their worthless judgments on them. They are the reason we need people like Cliven.

  3. Tuere Randall

    Yet you didn't answer my question, do you defend what he said about feeling that I (as in his blanket statement of black people) am better off a slave picking cotton? Just because people of different races might be united under the banner of hatred of the federal government or defending land rights doesn't mean that there isn't racism sentiment among them.

  4. Tuere Randall

    Somehow, I couldn't imagine a disparaging comment being made about Native Americans that I would defend, even if it were taken out of context. Quite frankly, I'm disappointed in you.

  5. Colleen Lloyd

    Tuere Randall I know what it sounds like if you are reading it out of context, but it's obvious when you read it in context that he was speaking IRONICALLY and no one believes he actually meant black people were better off as slaves unless they WANT to believe that. It's similar to statements I've heard natives say, that we would be better off any other way than being dependent on the government instead of how it was before. When you read the whole thing it is clear he was using the extreme of picking cotton to illustrate that the government is essentially keeping people in the same system of slavery one way or another. He is clearly speaking up for all races. Did you even read it? Thanks for your input though, I am glad you shared your perspective which is pretty important obviously.

  6. Colleen Lloyd

    Tuere Randall I'm disappointed in you, too. That you would attack me personally and insult me for pointing out the obvious, that Cliven was speaking ironically and clearly intended to make a case for the right s of all people by using picking cotton as an example for how the system keeps people in slavery .

  7. Colleen Lloyd

    Tuere Randall He never said that, though so obviously I'm not defending that. He said the system makes him wonder that, obviously using it as an irony to speak out against the slavery in one form or another of all people by the government taking away any means of self-sufficiency, same as they do to natives. I get the irony.

  8. Colleen Lloyd

    Tuere Randall Maybe I'm on Indian Time and it takes me longer than 2 minutes to answer a question since I have a life and am not constantly glued to the computer. I just answered your question. Obviously you're wanting to judge me as well, without knowing what is in my mind, so you're doing the same thing to him. That's pretty condescending and anyone who knows me knows that isn't true, too, so quit judging what you don't know. Yes, I am sure there is racism in the minds of people who are born into that generation and mentality, like I have heard older people say "Negro" and backward things, but when you look at his whole speech, he's making an attempt to criticize the system and not the racial heritage of anyone. He might not be totally with the program as far as really "getting" it or really letting go of deep-seated prejudices, like so many older people, but this was not said as an attempt to put black people back picking cotton. It was meant to say they should NOT be picking cotton, or dependent on the government. He was criticizing the government, which is consistent with his whole independent philosophy.

  9. Krisy Sills

    I agree with his sentiments. The Democrat party in particular is hell-bent on making as many government dependents as possible (for votes o'course,) and I find it horribly self-deprecating that approx. 90% of black people vote democrat while many confess they don't agree with their policies so much. Any self-respecting black person should be terrified of ever being enslaved by anyone, any ideology, or any attachment to things and instead be fiercely independent. THAT is freedom. As is stated in The Declaration of Independence, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." ALL MEN have these rights – now lets each go pursue them for ourselves, using all the unique gifts and abilities the Creator gave to each of us! And blame no one else for your failures or shortcomings because we all have them, but be thankful for all you have been given and all you can achieve for yourself. That is something to be proud of that nobody can take away from you.

  10. Hy Libby

    Who wrote this shit?

    "…does not include a video of Cliven Bundy’s speech or a comment from the Gold Butte are rancher about the allegedly derogatory racial statement." Huh?

    "…it truly does not seem that his intend was to diminish the evils of slavery …" Really, his "intend"?

    "…how a lack of freedom and reliance upon the government has negatively impacted the America family…"

    "…not having enough money to engage in positive leisure activities sparked the troubles which face not only low-income and minority neighborhoods, but increasing the nation as a whole." It increased the nation?

    "Cliven referenced the intent of the Founding Fathers for the new nation they gave birth to and the sense of duty we have to correct the course we are currently on to ensure freedom and the benefits of self-reliance and not government dependence for future generations." (WTF does this even mean?)

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    And as for this ludicrous assertion: "Cliven Bundy is nearly 70, he comes from a generation that had never heard the phrase political correctness."

    The term has been around since 1793 and certainly gained popularity in the 1970's when Cliven was in his thirties. That's 40-odd years. And he's never heard it? And, besides, he needn't be steeped in the nuances of "political correctness" to understand that ruminating on whether "the Negro" might have been better off OWNED OUTRIGHT BY SLAVEHOLDERS was a expose of either his total bigotry or his total ignorance (and you can't rule out both).

  11. Steve Kritzer

    Tuere Randall

    IMHO: Put into context, from his experience seeing the Watts riots and welfare housing in No. Las Vegas, Bundy was wondering about the unhappiness and how much better a fate his black brothers (yes in the full video) have now, than when in slavery. To men like Bundy work and family is everything and necessary for self respect.

    Besides being a rancher, Bundy also grows melons, these old school guys feel that all work is honorable and don't judge people by what they do (excluding some bureaucrats). I'm positive that even at age 70, he would be more than happy to pick cotton himself if that was the task at hand.

    As for the terms "Negro" and "colored," this was the respectful way to address African-Americans 60 years ago.

    A 3:13 video of what Bundy said puts the 1:30 NYTimes quote in a whole different context.

    http://benswann.com/truth-in-media-cliven-bundys-racist-remarks-were-also-promoting-hispanic-culture-what-msm-isnt-telling-you/

  12. Krisy Sills

    Colleen Lloyd, it seems obvious to me that Tuere Randall is not open to finding the good in people like Mr. Bundy. It looks like he's stuck in his own bias to me, and it's impossible to see the truth and come together as fellow citizens when looking through a biased lens.

  13. Brenda McDaniel

    If any of you really think the Fox Propaganda Machine cares about your personal needs??? I also have a Bridge to NO Where to sell you also. LMAO!!!! The only thing the Fox Propaganda Machine cares about is Winning Elections and complete power for the Billionaires and Millionaires wealthiest 2% of the people. The rest of you Conservative fools are just the pawns to their needs of winning elections. Get use to it. The American Dream is DEAD and the Fox Propaganda Machine is here to make the American Dream die here. You ignorant poor white Conservatives folks are the New Slave Labor today filling in all those Below Poverty Wage Jobs. Keep waving your Confederate Flags because you are making White Slave Labor alive and growing today. FOOLS only think Fox Propaganda Machine care about their real personal needs of the people. It would be funny if it was NOT so true.

  14. Brenda McDaniel

    If any of you really think the Fox Propaganda Machine cares about your personal needs??? I also have a Bridge to NO Where to sell you also. LMAO!!!! The only thing the Fox Propaganda Machine cares about is Winning Elections and complete power for the Billionaires and Millionaires wealthiest 2% of the people. The rest of you Conservative fools are just the pawns to their needs of winning elections. Get use to it. The American Dream is DEAD and the Fox Propaganda Machine is here to make the American Dream die here. You ignorant poor white Conservatives folks are the New Slave Labor today filling in all those Below Poverty Wage Jobs. Keep waving your Confederate Flags because you are making White Slave Labor alive and growing today. FOOLS only think Fox Propaganda Machine care about their real personal needs of the people. It would be funny if it was NOT so true.

  15. Colleen Lloyd

    Tuere is a beautiful, articulate young woman, not a man. She is absolutely correct in my view on the points she has made on my page and here and I agree that she has reason to be critical of the sensitivity and appropriateness of anyone speaking even ironically, especially through the lens of white privilege, about her and other black people picking cotton. I have heard that kind of thing said in a serious context and have called them out on it many times, as people who know me know I am always standing against racism. It's just her assuming she can judge me and him as if she is reading our minds and criticizes wrongly when I know what I was meaning and she doesn't. I am just saying Cliven was not advocating black people picking cotton LITERALLY being slaves, just comparing one form of slavery to another critical of the system. He is not known to have been derogatory toward black people at other times and his speech was pointing out racism, too. But I do find it even more ironic that the same people who are trashing Cliven for that sarcastic comment think it's perfectly acceptable to put on a Redskins mascot costume and degrade my ancestors and native people living today by keeping US in the genocidal past and keeping that racist degradation going. Also, this isn't about Fox News who are in fact full of sht as we know, and no one here has says they are Tea Baggers and I am native and pretty much the total opposite of that so why is someone on here ranting about white Tea Baggers as if that has anything to do with this or us?

  16. Colleen Lloyd

    "… and so what I've testified to you — I was in the Watts riot, I seen the beginning fire and I seen that last fire. What I seen is civil disturbance. People are not happy, people are thinking they don't have their freedoms, they didn't have these things, and they didn't have them.

    We've progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and we sure don't want to go back. We sure don't want the colored people to go back to that point. We sure don't want these Mexican people to go back to that point. And we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way." – Cliven Bundy, "The Racist Domestic Terrorist " —- NOT. LMAO

    "Now, let me talk about the Spanish people. You know, I understand that they come over here against our Constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people — and I’ve worked side by side a lot of them.

    Don’t tell me they don’t work, and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structures than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, and I’ll tell you in my way of thinking they’re awful nice people. And we need to have those people join us and be with us not, not come to our party." – Cliven Bundy, "The Racist Domestic Terrorist " —- NOT. LMAO

  17. Colleen Lloyd

    "… and so what I've testified to you — I was in the Watts riot, I seen the beginning fire and I seen that last fire. What I seen is civil disturbance. People are not happy, people are thinking they don't have their freedoms, they didn't have these things, and they didn't have them.

    We've progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and we sure don't want to go back. We sure don't want the colored people to go back to that point. We sure don't want these Mexican people to go back to that point. And we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way." – Cliven Bundy, "The Racist Domestic Terrorist " —- NOT. LMAO

    "Now, let me talk about the Spanish people. You know, I understand that they come over here against our Constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people — and I’ve worked side by side a lot of them.

    Don’t tell me they don’t work, and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structures than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, and I’ll tell you in my way of thinking they’re awful nice people. And we need to have those people join us and be with us not, not come to our party." – Cliven Bundy, "The Racist Domestic Terrorist " —- NOT. LMAO

  18. Matt Denton

    Tuere Randall … He wasn't talking about you. Unless you are a black woman who is living in Las Vegas on government housing. He was speaking about a specific class of black Americans, who are in the company of many races of people, who are dependent on the government to make a living and the job prospects aren't there.

    When he asked if they'd be hypothetically better off picking cotton, it appears he meant it in terms of having a productive job. Considering his very next sentence was trying to defend illegal Mexican immigrants from stereotypes it's pretty obvious he wasn't trying to disparage anyone, but rather the society we find ourselves in. He was lamenting the family structure of white families in the same breath.

    He's old and he's using dated language and a sloppy attempt at saying that much of black America isn't much better off than they were 100 years ago. Many black preachers say the same thing and it's not considered racist. He doesn't want you picking cotton, he wants you productive and part of a strong family and society.

  19. Ron Taylor

    Brenda you are so ignorant it is a shame that your allowed to breed.