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Pope Francis: ‘I Believe in God, Not In A Catholic God’

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Pope Francis has once again had a sly dig at the Roman Catholic Church, condemning its narcissistic “Vatican-centric view” of religion.

The new Pope, who was elected earlier this year after Pope Benedict’s resignation, has been praised for his comments since taking the position.

During a discussion with the atheist editor of La Repubblica, an Italian newspaper, Pope Francis once again made it clear that he is looking to reform the church.

The Pontiff commented, “This Vatican-centric view neglects the world around us. I don not share this view and I’ll do everything I can to change to it.”

He then went on to lay out his plan, stating, “The Church is or should go back to being a community of God’s people, and priests, pastors and bishops who have the care of souls, are at the service of the people of God.”

Pope Francis continued, “And I believe in God, not in a Catholic God, there is no Catholic God, there is God and I believe in Jesus Christ, his incarnation. Jesus is my teacher and my pastor, but God, the Father, Abba, is the light and the Creator. This is my Being. Do you think we are very far apart?”

Since becoming the leader of the Catholic Church, Francis has proven that he is a more liberal kind of Pope. He has proven this by being more lenient on various subjects which have included homosexuality and atheism.

Recently, he even criticized the church for being too obsessed with certain issues. Back in September, he was quoted as saying, “We have to find a new balance, otherwise even the moral edifice of the church is likely to fall like a house of cards, losing the freshness and the fragrance of the Gospel.”

He then added, “The church has sometimes locked itself up in small things, in small-minded rules,” before asking his clergy to not act like government officials or bureaucrats.

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118 Responses to “Pope Francis: ‘I Believe in God, Not In A Catholic God’”

  1. Dafny Lippold

    "…watch with clear eyes the False Prophet who will attempt to lead My Church for he does not come from the House of My Eternal Father. He will seem like he does. But this will be false. Watch too for the friendship he will display with the Antichrist for they will be two of the most deceitful followers of Satan – dressed in sheep’s clothing. They will have powers, which will seem like the miracles of old but these powers will be Satanic… pray for the graces of discernment so that you may see this False Prophet for what he truly is. A demon sent to distract you, from the depths of Hell."

  2. Paolo Alcantara

    Well, if you think about it, he's more of bringing the church back to what he believes, as well as what I believe, to its roots. I think that he thinks that religion is not meant to shun people who do not think or believe similarly, but is meant to bring us together and hopefully bring peace that we needed. Oh well, that's what I think.

  3. Patrick Frye

    I'd hope he's saying that the body of Christ, the church, is supposed to be single united whole instead of fragmented denominations that are bickering instead of going out into all nations and making disciples.

  4. Rafael Malonzo

    Wow so caring for people and the souls who are not wrong or evil themselves is now satanic? Love thy neighbor as you love yourself and don't do to others what you don't want them to do to you. What is the point of our Savior's death if single minded relics like you refuse to acknowledge what the Lord incarnate has taught us? You who slander this man and his true understanding of the faith.

  5. Tim Emerson

    It will indeed be interesting how this plays out. We know that eventually something will happen to "religion" worldwide. His statements are too vague to see and you make a good observation.

  6. Tamara Poe

    I understand where you are coming from. I have read Revelation and i have read about the 144th. This is part of the story playing itself out as it is written. All. i have to say at this point is Get Right (with God) or Get Left (behind).

  7. Adrian Rodriguez Asis

    Tamara Poe I want to do good because it is good, not because I am afraid of being punished if I don't.

  8. Adrian Rodriguez Asis

    I almost considered what you said, but then I saw three commas and lost your whole message.

  9. Veronique Bulong

    Why can't you just leave us alone? Aren't people free to choose what to believe in? The notion of a deity watching over us is just ridiculous. This is merely my opinion as a realist.

  10. Gov Christoper Jan Landicho

    Yes, we are free. And we are free to believe and not to believe. :) Pope Francis is not telling you to believe. :P

  11. Juan Dela Cruz

    lol.. HOW ABOUT IGLESIA NI CRISTO? ang small letter c sa church of christ ay pinalitan at ginawang capital C ni manalo.. ;)

  12. Lisa Gonsalves Costas

    Pope Francis has made me think about the importance of humility. As the leader of my church, he has made statements that make me proud to be a catholic! Respecting all people, being approachable. Recently, he asked that priests bow their heads when they greet him, not kneel, that speaks of the man he is.

  13. Jerid Cozart

    "Let he who has no sin cast the first stone." you can't judge others for their sins as we all are sinners in his eyes and the only way to attain salvation is through JC besides why are so many other people crying about the LGBT community when we are still letting celebs have 72 hr marriages? The Miley Cyrus fiasco, The US gov. who will help other countries, yet lets its own citizens stave need healthcare and jobs yet we send these all over seas. CEO's paying starvation wages to its workers to make a quick buck. The polluted rivers in other countries where people get drinking water and bathe where there is trash in it. How can you claim to be so righteous yet so condescending? This is one of the reasons many people don't like religion. They are judged for it by so many others and its associated with negative feelings. So please start a commotion about all the sins and not just pick and choose. LGBT is here to stay and that is their cross to bear let the lord judge then and you focus on how you are going to gain eternal salvation of your soul

  14. Maria Battles

    @ Jerid Corzart… More like he see all the corruption that goes on in the Vatican and he is just trying to clean house. Check this out and open your eyes before you open your mouth. http://youtu.be/uhXn-bftZ3A

  15. Joseph Polizzotto

    Pope Francis is desiring a "coming together" of all Christians under one umbrella. This "one umbrella" is universal. Since Catholic means universal, Pope Francis desires to bring "The Catholic Church" to a level that is reminiscent to the early church before the Protestant Reformation. Once a time ago, Catholics rejected Protestants. This should not be the case. Once a time ago, Catholics did not accept everyone into the church. Some of the traditions in the Catholic Church, over time, also include political agenda that should not have been implemented; Pope Francis wants to make changes that reflect what the "universal church" stands for in light of the teachings of Jesus Christ, including, but not limited to, the acceptance of all sinners into the Catholic Church for renewal. Jesus did not come for the righteous, but for sinners to lead them to repentance.

  16. Cats Whitcher

    I'm not sure He (Jesus) came for anyone, but accepted all "saint & sinner" alike… i take issue w/the commentary in the article above that claims Pope is "condemning"… i don't "get" that from his statements, what I "get" is his call to be LESS condemning, MORE accepting and loving… I'm loving it all around

  17. Marny F

    History of Christianity is that they murdered people who refused to convert — the Jews, mostly. Interesting that they murdered the people from whom Jesus was born and raised and lived and died.

    He is turning in his grave … because he certainly hasn't returned – but, then again, neither has my mother, brother, husband, countless friends, and all my aunts and uncles. I've not seen my blessed maternal grandmother around either. Or my grandfather.

    G-d made it VERY clear that NO ONE but he was G-d — I am the I am!

    Stop with the idol worship of a mortal man named Jesus!! Maybe THAT is why such horrors continue on the earth and people — your idolatry and praying to a man instead of ONLY G-d.

  18. Anonymous

    Because of Pope Francis's unquestionable refreshing leadership, the Catholic Church is now laden with like minded Clergy who fully embrace Pope Francis's views. Who have dedicated themselves to carrying out his religious wishes with the singular purpose to reform and eradicate principles and practices, which had they been left uncorrected, would have damaged the Church beyond repentance in the eyes of the world.
    And what's so refreshing about Francis, not a singular action he's taken thus far was motivated by anything other than his dedication to God. And when the world sadly has to let God take Francis, history will bestow thousands of accolades upon Pope Francis, sainthood will certainly be one, none of which he'll approve, but instead will ask to be simply remembered as, "A man of God".

  19. Juan Dela Cruz

    Arthur B. Melicor Q: What is the Gospel of Manalo Doctrine No.3 and what is its fallacy?
    A: An excerpt of Gospel of Manalo Doctrine 3 follows:

    "LESSON NO. 3 – The true religion
    Summary of the Lesson: The commonly accepted belief that all churches belong to God is false. Christ founded only one true Church–the Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo). Therefore, we value the Church because herein are we able to do the kind of service acceptable to God and through which we shall be saved." (Fundamental Beliefs of the Iglesia ni Cristo, Erano G.Manalo (1989), p.8).

    The fallacy of Doctrine Lesson 3:

    This Manalo gospel teaching that it is the Church of Christ or Iglesia ni Cristo is the true religion and through which we can be saved, is a lie. The truth in the Bible is that it is only the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth who was given by God for salvation of all men and there is no other name given under heaven except the name of Jesus Christ (Acts 4:10-12).
    Furthermore, Jesus Christ said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." (Jn.14:6 NKJV). Because of this, the Iglesia ni Cristo or Church of Christ is the wrong way, a false religion, and will lead to death not life because it does not conform to the gospel of Christ. What FYM had done is that he made another gospel called the Gospel of Manalo.

  20. Juan Dela Cruz

    Arthur B. Melicor
    Q: What is the Gospel of Manalo?
    A: The Gospel of Manalo is the book of doctrines conceived and written by Felix Y. Manalo as revised by his son Erano G. Manalo which serves as the basis of faith in the Iglesia ni Cristo. This book commonly called Fundamental Beliefs of the Iglesia ni Cristo delineates the twenty seven (27) doctrines or lessons comprising the Manalo gospel which must be accepted, believed, and sworn for their obedience, before anyone can become an Iglesia ni Cristo member. The Iglesia ni Cristo now calls this preaching of these Manalo gospel doctrines as bible studies.

    Q: Why is the Gospel of Manalo able to control people?
    A: The Gospel of Manalo uses the technique called Classical Conditioning. In classical conditioning, you can condition , train, or control anyone to do what you want, provided you feed your victim with an accessory bait and provided that such teaching and accessory bait have been given to your victim repeatedly for an extended period of time. When the worship service of the Iglesia ni Cristo is of the same topic preached repeatedly, it is in line with the repetition principle of classical conditioning.

    Psychology Book Example of Classical Conditioning:

    Mind conditioner…………….Pavlov
    Animal to be conditioned……..A dog
    What Pavloc wants the dog to do? To salivate (detected by use of inserted instrument)
    Two things needed to condition the dog: 1) Bell 2) Meat powder as a bait.

    Application:
    Every time Pavlov rings the bell, the bell is accompanied by giving the dog the meat powder. Pavlov does this repeatedly to train or condition the dog. After several ringing and dispensing of the meat powder, the dog is now trained (or conditioned). Pavlov rings the bell but without the accessory meat powder. Result: The dog salivates upon hearing the bell even without the meat powder. Conclusion: The dog is already conditioned to accept that the bell means meat powder.

    The INC Application of Classical Conditioning:

    Mind Conditioner…………Felix Manalo (or INC minister);
    Animal to be trained……..Visitor or Prospect;
    What FYM or INC minister wants the visitor to do: To enroll in the INC free bible study;
    Two things needed to condition the visitor….1) Gospel of Manalo, and 2) The Bible (as bait).

    Application:

    In the bible exposition, every time the INC minister teaches the gospel of Manalo, it is accompanied by reading the Bible. In the entire session, the two things (Manalo gospel plus Bible bait) is being repeated again and again. At the end of the session, the visitor is impressed that the Iglesia ni Cristo is a Bible based church. Conclusion: The visitor is already conditioned to become a Bible student or indoctrinee.

    The Iglesia ni Cristo's technique of classical conditioning (brain washing in modern parlance) is being applied notoriously in the Iglesia mandatory worship services on Thursdays and Sundays. FYM can't afford that members miss the brainwashing session or else he will lose them. For every whims that Manalo desires, he pushes the members through the use of a bait. The mind is susceptible to be trained and to be conditioned to accept and do anything if pushed by a bait and if done regularly and repeatedly.

  21. Tristan Ivan Guino-o

    Please youve gone crazy in religion. . you didnt comprehend what religion is. . its about love. . and what are you doing? youre enclosing with your mindset.

  22. Juan Dela Cruz

    Onufri Bonza Hachero anong bibliya naman yan? BIBILIYA BA YAN NI MANALO? nag reply ako sa isang post mo dito bat di mo un i response.

  23. Juan Dela Cruz

    Onufri Bonza Hachero kung bibiliya yan ni manalo. cge pagusapan natin ang DOCTRINA NYO.. sya nga pla.. tinira ko na yung isang doctrina nyo about doctrine no. 3.

  24. Onufri Bonza Hachero

    Juan Dela Cruz…wala po akong pakialam sa doctrina ni manalo…at nagkakamali po ako kahit tirahin mo ng tirahin ang doctrina ni manalo..hindi po ako member ng ni manalo…sorry po.

  25. Juan Dela Cruz

    Onufri eto ha? applicable parin ito sa lahat ng religion.. How Many True Churches are there?

  26. Juan Dela Cruz

    The truth in the Bible is that it is only the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth who was given by God for salvation of all men and there is no other name given under heaven except the name of Jesus Christ (Acts 4:10-12).
    Furthermore, Jesus Christ said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." (Jn.14:6 NKJV)

  27. Juan Dela Cruz

    "LESSON NO. 2 – The true God
    Summary of the lesson: The Iglesia ni Cristo believes in the teachings taught by the Bible that the Father Who created all things is the only true God. There are no three persons in one God; thus, reject the belief in the so-called Trinity. The Bible also prohibits worship of images or idolatry." (Fundamental Beliefs of the Iglesia ni Cristo, Erano G. Manalo (1989), p.4).

    The fallacy of Doctrine Lesson 2:

    The Iglesia ni Cristo lies that it is only the Father who is the true God, or that the Father is the only one who created all things. The truth is that the Father as well as the Son Jesus Christ has created all things. This was testified by Apostle John:

    "He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made." (Jn.1:2-3 NKJV)

    Therefore, the Bible teaches Jesus Christ is co-creator of all things. Jesus Christ was in the beginning with God. That all things were made through Jesus Christ, and without Jesus Christ nothing was made that was made. This teaching of Apostle John is corroborated by Apostle Paul:

    "He is the image of the invisible God,the firstborn over all creation.For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or domination, or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him." (Col. 1:15-16 NKJV)

    Therefore, Jesus Christ created also all things. This is the true gospel taught by the apostles.

    The Manalo doctrine that it is the Father who is the true God is false. Jesus Christ is also God as attested in Heb.1:8-9:

    "But to the Son He says:
    Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness, Therefore God, Your God,has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your companions." (Heb.1:8-9 NKJV).

    It is the Father who is calling His Son, "O God". The denial of this Bible fact by Felix Y. Manalo is proof that Manalo does not respect the Bible nor God at all. This trait of disrespect to God could only come from the evil spirit.

    Felix Y. Manalo also lies about the non existence of the Trinity. The Bible is replete with many verses that testify of the existence of the Trinity or the three compositions of the one God. The following verses teach the Trinity: Matthew 28:19-20; Genesis 1:26; 2 Corinthians 13:14. The Trinity word in the Bible is called Godhead (Rom.1:20 NKJV, Col.2:9 NKJV).

    The mirroring of the Trinity on man based on the Bible that man was created in the image of God is the tripartite composition of man. We all know that man has three compositions namely, body, soul, and spirit (1 Thes.5:23). This man's image source is God's, therefore, God has three compositions which we all know as the Father, Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. The body represents Christ, the soul represents Father, and spirit represents the Holy Spirit. The fact that man is deemed only one man despite that he actually has three compositions, therefore, though God having three compositions, is only one God.

    Q: What is the Gospel of Manalo Doctrine No.3 and what is its fallacy?
    A: An excerpt of Gospel of Manalo Doctrine 3 follows:

  28. Juan Dela Cruz

    On Image Worship

    The Catholics do not do this. (Cathechism of the Catholic Church, p.573).

  29. Juan Dela Cruz

    What is prohibited of other gods and images:

    1) What is prohibited is having other gods before God. This is essentially not having these other gods before the true God. The true God comes first over all others that are considerable as gods. What does the other gods represents? Anything that we have whatever that might be, namely—money, pleasure, power, possessions, or somebody, or something that we place first before the true God. The important thing is that the true God must come first not the second. Case Scenarios: a) You have the following gods besides the true God: wealth, power, & wife. From 1 through 4, how do you rank them in order of importance? Answer: 1) True God, 2. wife, 3-4) power and wealth. If your Number 1 is other than the true God, the violation bell rings. Note: It is impossible that you will have the true God alone. It will be a very lonely world in such a situation. God has made all things in this world so that man will be happy.

    2) What is prohibited of images? What is prohibited is making it yourself and bowing to it, or serving it. Therefore, if you have carved a moon, it is still allowed. But, if you did the 2nd step of bowing or serving the moon, the violation bell rings. Supposing the carved moon was not carved by you and neither paid somebody to carve it for you, but, you accidentaly bowed to it? Since there is no intention on your part to bow to it or serve it, the violation bell will not ring. What about if you have seen a carved moon accidentally in the flea market, acquiring and putting it in your room and you bowed to it with the intention of bowing to the unseen God, will the violation bell ring? No. The intention of the mind is what counts. The intention starts with the carving and completed with the bowing or serving. This third case is the scenario of what Catholics do. Their bowing is not directed at the image itself, but, is directed on the one their minds are set on. If the mind is not the controlling point, everyone would be in violation because there is no place on earth wherein there is no object or things near you or close to you. Also, repetition of the act is important to show willfulness.

  30. Onufri Bonza Hachero

    authority na ang nagsasabi na..ibang dios ang pinaniniwalaan ng papa at hindi ang dios ng katoliko…kung pagiisipan maiigi anticatholic ang papa..kasi iba ang dios nya….mahirap bang intindihin yan o sadyang matigas lang ang loob mo na lumayas sa katoliko kasi walang bawal sa katoliko..kahit ano pwedeng gawin ang lahat ng kalayawan..

  31. Rolando Culpa

    I agree with the Pope. I hope the change he is spearheading will really take off and be supported by the majority of the Catholics – who are now in the limbo of deception. One of the reasons why there are now so many radical Catholics is because of "narcissistic 'Vatican-centricview' of religion." That is why, in the local scene, there are so many wayward priests who believe in a "Catholic God" but not in the real God. In the national politics, the scam bags are mostly

  32. Rolando Culpa

    Roman Catholics who believe in a Catholic God but not the real God. That is why these people love what they are doing and will continue to do because they believe they are protected and always pardoned by their Catholic God. Shiiiit!!!@!

  33. Alicia Flies-Hammett

    Even though I am no longer a practicing Catholic for the very reasons Pope Francis enumerates in his interview, I have found the hope in him that the Catholic Church can transform itself -in a worthy representative of God. Francis is just the right, new, fresh and void of power hunger voice we need today, with the wisdom and awareness that the Creator, Abba, can not be owned by any organized religion.

  34. Daniel Artillera Pulalon

    Hab 2:18 What profiteth the graven image that the maker thereof hath graven it; the molten image, and a teacher of lies, that the maker of his work trusteth therein, to make dumb idols?
    this is what happen to catholic now. better to read the bible

  35. Benito Valeriano Cabantan Cenabre

    God is only ONE, a God of Christians,Muslims,Catholics etc… The Pope isn't spreading new teaching but rather new perspective. Waywardness doesn't exist alone in the Catholic church Bai, Its present in any group. God teaches us all not to commit sin but GOD still respects the FREEDOM He bestowed on each one of us If you like the last word you said, go on BUT kindly respect the belief of others as others respect your views TY SHALOM

  36. Bhoy Tabigne

    Go go go pope francis re-align the teaching and gospel of jesus christ
    As you said christ is your mentor, teacher and god is the solr creator
    Send them to become a true believer thru the TRUE RELIGION THAT JESUS CHRIST
    BUILD THE TRUE CHURCH UPON HIS NAME (Church of Christ)

  37. Paulo Buenaventura

    bobo mo. kaya d umaasenso pinas dahil sa kabobohan mo.

  38. Paulo Buenaventura

    "anti catholic ang pope" sus. aral aral din kse bago mag basa ng english. d mo naintindihan pinag sabe ng article.

  39. King Remis II

    I am not a member of the RCC but i still praise what the Pope bravely and firmly stands for. Why do you judge the RCC na hindi totoong simbahan? You don't understand what's being RCC. Please don't judge.

  40. Onufri Bonza Hachero

    tagalogi mo nga yan mr.paulo…… Pope Francis continued, “And I believe in God, not in a Catholic God, there is no Catholic God, there is God and I believe in Jesus Christ, his incarnation. Jesus is my teacher and my pastor, but God, the Father, Abba, is the light and the Creator. This is my Being. Do you think we are very far apart?”

  41. Kent Yohann Salcedo Bacatan

    Onufri Bonza Hachero He means that God is not only for Catholics, but there is one same God for each religious denomination.

  42. Joseph Carreon

    Ok lang talaga maging bobo, mangmang, inutil at walang alam. Basta love mo si God at love ka rin nya di ba? :)

  43. Joseph Carreon

    Gov Christoper Jan Landicho correct! This is what I love about this pope so far. He has not incited that I join them, he just says that it's fine that I don't. What matters to him is that to those who believe do the right thing and stop oppressing the non-believers such as I. So much respect.

  44. Neil Allen

    He still protected pedophiles like the last pope did, and there's no way that God's real church would commit organized, protected, child rape.

  45. Elmer Espinosa

    Juan Dela Cruz eto po talata galing sa Bagong Magandang Balita Biblia 9 Huwag ninyong tawaging ama ang sinumang tao sa lupa sapagkat iisa ang inyong Ama, ang Ama na nasa langit.

  46. Mel Arda

    Rolando Culpa There is no such thing as a Catholic God. God is for all people his creation. But I do not think the doctrines of the Catholic Church on God is incorrect! God is not exclusive to Catholics only.

  47. Tim Suaso

    What amazes me is how obsessed so many non- Catholics are about the Catholic Church. In my 50 years of being a Catholic, I have never heard a group of Catholics discussing the business of any other denomination. We don't care what ya'll do.

  48. Benito Valeriano Cabantan Cenabre

    Mel good morning nice to ZEAL to defend your faith like that but please "ayaw lang" kay Rolan is my kin. We use to express religious dialogue like this but since to me he didn't respect our beliefs plus the last word so, have to reply to his comments Again pls. dont K? thanks and SHALOM

  49. Pkol Dumancas

    aanhin nyu ang bibliya kung mismo hindi kayo marunong rumespeto sa isa't isa? :D

  50. Abraham Budhiredja

    Religions has been saying that there is but one God for a long time now, and that He just happens to have many faces and manifests differently…while in their hearts they are still saying my God is the greatest..lol..by making God universal, God loses personification, something that make religion very popular in the first place (yes, Im looking at you religions that actually have Gods). Without a figure to aspire to the religion just would not be so popular.. So, I imagine the pope is not so popular now after saying there is no Catholic God..which, in my opinion, whether there is or isnt a Catholic God, doesn't make that big of a difference..not as if religion is based on logic or understanding anyway..even if you show definite proof that God does not exist people would just shut their eyes and ears, or shoot you dead…and that is exactly what "devout" catholics or christians or whatever will do if you say their God does not exist…no offence..I think religion is an absolute necessesity for some people to survive in this stupidly cruel horrible world of ours…

  51. Siege Garcia

    Butthurt much. wala naman nakikipag away pero grabe maka argumento. wag mo po isabay ang droga at pag basa ng bibliya. Malabong trip yan. Ilang beses na ngang sinabi na hindi siya INC eh. Bobo.

  52. Mark Fabian

    Mawalang galang na po pero hindi po ba mas makabubuti kung ma-ipagkakaisa natin ang lahat ng tao sa mundo? Sa aking paniniwala, ito ang nais makamit ng ating bagong Santo Papa. Ano mang relihiyon, ano mang paniniwala mo, basta ang ginagawa mo ay nakabubuti at nakaktulong sa iba kaysa nakakapaminsala, kahit ano ka pa, mahal ka ng Diyos. Sa aking paniniwala, isa ito sa mga magandang reporma na magagawa ng ating Santo Papa. Marami na po akong nakilala at nakahalubilong mga Heswita (Jesuits) na katulad ni Pope Francis at masasabi ko po talagang mahal nila si Kristo hindi sa pagiging maka-tradisyonal na Kristyano pero sa pagbukas ng kanilang puso at isipan at pagtanggap sa lahat ng tao. Iba ang spiritualidad na sinusunod ng mga Heswita at sa ilang taon kong pagkilala sa mga taong ito, humanga ako ng lubos sa kanila.

  53. Mark Fabian

    Yes. I'm hoping for this. Its gonna be a hard battle though. A lot of haters don't really accept his unorthodox teachings.

  54. Mark Fabian

    Sure. The pope is basically saying that you try to do good and be good in your life. Not necessarily believe in a God but rather live a life worth living and be a morally correct person.

  55. Estrellita Bacon Cuizon

    Religions,whatever they might be,should not make men enemies of one another but rather brothers.

  56. Ryan Ramirez

    18 Kung napopoot sa inyo ang sanlibutan, alalahanin ninyong ako muna ang kinapootan nila bago kayo. 19 Kung kayo'y taga-sanlibutan, mamahalin nila kayo, sapagkat kayo'y kabilang sa kanila. Hindi kayo taga-sanlibutan. Sila'y napopoot sa inyo dahil pinili ko kayo. 20 Alalahanin ninyo ang sinabi kong ito: walang aliping nakakahigit kaysa sa kanyang panginoon. Kung ako'y inusig nila, uusigin din nila kayo. Kung sinunod nila ang aking sinabi, susundin rin nila ang inyong sasabihin. 21 Subalit ang lahat ng ito'y gagawin nila sa inyo dahil sa akin, sapagkat hindi nila kilala ang nagsugo sa akin. 22 Kung hindi ako naparito at nangaral sa kanila, hindi sana mapatutunayang nagkasala sila. Ngunit ngayo'y hindi na sila makakaiwas na panagutan ang kanilang kasalanan. 23 Ang napopoot sa akin ay napopoot din sa aking Ama. 24 Kung hindi ko sana ginawa sa kanilang kalagitnaan ang mga gawaing hindi pa nagagawa ninuman, wala sana silang kasalanan. Ngunit nakita na nila ang aking mga gawa subalit sa kabila nito'y kinapootan pa rin nila ako at ang aking Ama. 25 Subalit nangyari ito upang matupad ang sinasabi sa kanilang Kautusan, Napoot sila sa akin nang walang dahilan. (Juan 15:18-25 MBB)

  57. Jogara Sator Jumawan

    Juan Dela Cruz na try mo na bang makinig sa mga aral ng INC? puros naman mali yung pgkakakilala mo eh, ngpapaniwala ka sa mga libro na hindi nmn galing sa INC.

  58. Anonymous

    Juan Dela Cruz kung talagang tama yang aral na sinasabi mo bakit di ka makipagdebate sa ministro ng Iglesia ni manalo na sinasabi mo. papanoorin ka namin malay mo baka dumami mga taga sunod mo. tsaka ilagay mo tunay mong pangalan at litrato takot ka naman yata eh. masarap pa naman manood ng mga debate. sa mga napanood ko sa youtube wala pa nanalo sa INC sa mga debate. wag kang Duwag gamit mo pa pangalan ng mga pinoy!!!

  59. FirstRac Yadao Copreros

    Juan Dela Cruz …sir sa pag kakaalam ko…tuwing meron kaming experiment sa chemistry pag katapos ng experiment tsaka lang kami gumawa ng conlusion…pero yung ginawa mo nag conclusion ka na wala kang ginawang experiment…invite po kita sa aming bible study 25 lesson po iyon ano po O sa aming pagsamba at sa lahat ng gawiin ng Iglesia ni cristo O sa aming official website incmedia.org welcome na welcome po kayo…tapos pag na tapos mo yun lahat tsaka ka lang gumawa ng conclusion ano po sir…kasi balibaliktarin man ang mundo mangyari man ang mang yari hindi mababago ang isang aral na kahit ano mang simbahan o relihion…

  60. FirstRac Yadao Copreros

    Juan Dela Cruz …(john 15:20)…manalo gospel wala namang ganun galing manira walang katotohan (mat 5:11)maraming salamat sir sa iyong pang uusig sa Iglesia ni Cristo, (2 tim 3:12) Glory be to God…

  61. Martin Manaloto

    Juan Dela Cruz anong gospel ni Manalo ang sinasabi mo, magsuri ka kaya ng mabuti, magtanong ka ng harapan sa ministro, para maituwid mo ang mali o minamali mong mga aral, WAG KANG MANIRA

  62. FirstRac Yadao Copreros

    Juan Dela Cruz

    SCAN International
    Liked · July 4, 2012

    HALLOWEEN?

    What is the TRUE/UNBIASED history of Halloween?

    Does this holiday a Christian practice?

    Does this holiday a celebration rooted from the 1st century christian practices?

    Is Halloween, from the bible?

    Well, just click the links to read:

    cdrc-phil.org
    halloweenhistory.org
    neopagan.net
    halloweenishere.com

    and etc.

    Make some research from your favorite search engine so you may know! All are united by saying that the History of Halloween came from PAGAN PRACTICES! And if you have watched t.v shows, or searched that halloween is a CHRISTIAN PRACTICE, well, they are the LIARS! For everyone knows about it, that it is only one of the created traditions in the Catholic Church!

    And if some didnt know about Halloween, lets read from Wikipedia what really is it (click the link for the full content):

    Halloween (or Hallowe'en) is an annual holiday observed on October 31, primarily in Ireland, Scotland, Canada and the United States. It has roots in the Celtic festival of Samhain and the Christian holiday All Saints' Day, but is today largely a secular celebration.

    Common Halloween activities include
    trick-or-treating,
    wearing costumes and
    attending costume parties,
    carving jack-o'-lanterns,
    ghost tours,
    bonfires,
    apple bobbing,
    visiting haunted attractions,
    committing pranks,
    telling ghost stories or other frightening tales, and
    watching horror films.

    It is only the introduction part, lets read other information about it!
    But i will just quote some:

    Historian Nicholas Rogers, exploring the origins of Halloween, notes that while "some folklorists have detected its origins in the Roman feast of Pomona, the goddess of fruits and seeds, or in the festival of the dead called Parentalia, it is more typically linked to the Celtic festival of Samhain, whose original spelling was Samuin (pronounced sow-an or sow-in)". The name is derived from Old Irish and means roughly "summer's end".

    A similar festival was held by the ancient Britons and is known as Calan Gaeaf (pronounced Kálan Gái av). The festival of Samhain celebrates the end of the "lighter half" of the year and beginning of the "darker half", and is sometimes regarded as the "Celtic New Year".The ancient Celts believed that the border between this world and the Otherworld became thin on Samhain, allowing spirits (both harmless and harmful) to pass through.

    The family's ancestors were honoured and invited home while harmful spirits were warded off. It is believed that the need to ward off harmful spirits led to the wearing of costumes and masks. Their purpose was to disguise oneself as a harmful spirit and thus avoid harm. In Scotland the spirits were impersonated by young men dressed in white with masked, veiled or blackened faces.

    Samhain was also a time to take stock of food supplies and slaughter livestock for winter stores. Bonfires played a large part in the festivities. All other fires were doused and each home lit their hearth from the bonfire. The bones of slaughtered livestock were cast into its flames.Sometimes two bonfires would be built side-by-side, and people and their livestock would walk between them as a cleansing ritual.

    Another common practice was divination, which often involved the use of food and drink. The name 'Halloween' and many of its present-day traditions derive from the Old English era.

    The NAME

    "The word Halloween is first attested in the 16th century"

    The PRACTICES

    carving jack-o'-lanterns, candle lanterns
    "The souling practice of commemorating the souls in purgatory with candle lanterns carved from turnips, became adapted into the making of jack-o'-lanterns. In traditional Celtic Halloween festivals, large turnips were hollowed out, carved with faces, and placed in windows to ward off evil spirits.The carving of pumpkins is associated with Halloween in North America where pumpkins are both readily available and much larger – making them easier to carve than turnips."

    wearing costumes and masks
    "The custom of wearing costumes and masks at Halloween goes back to Celtic traditions of attempting to copy the evil spirits or placate them…"

    Samhain celebration, where Halloween originated

    bonfires
    "Bonfires played a large part in the festivities celebrated down through the last several centuries, and up through the present day in some rural areas of the Celtic nations and the diaspora."

    trick-or-treating
    "Children going door to door "guising" (or "Galoshin" on the south bank of the lower Clyde) in costumes and masks carrying turnip lanterns, offering entertainment of various sorts in return for food or coins, was traditional in 19th century, and continued well into 20th century."

    apple bobbing
    "Apple bobbing originates from Celtic times when Halloween was called Samhain in some Gaelic languages, when apples were associated with love or fertility. Some say this comes from the Roman goddess Pomona whilst others note that this game is an important part of the Celtic pagan religious festival of Samhain when families would gather together for a communal feast."

    And etc…

    Not just the celebration of Halloween came from PAGANS, but also the activities inside it. So now you know the truth behind this, WOULD YOU CELEBRATE AGAIN HALLOWEEN NEXT YEAR?

    By the way, what is the TEACHING FROM THE BIBLE?

    “In particular, I want to urge you in the name of the lord, not to on living the aimless kind of life that pagans live. Intellectually they are in the dark, and they are estranged from the life of God, without knowledge because they have shut their hearts to it.” (Eph. 4:17-18, Jerusalem bible)

    That is why the Iglesia ni Cristo/Church of Christ members do not participate and celebrate Haloween! We just follow God's commandments, dont blame us for being "K.J" or "not cool" just because we do not celebrate celebrations CAME FROM PAGANS, is it our fault to OBEY AND FOLLOW THE WILL OF GOD?

    Posted by read me at 6:40 AM
    Labels: Catholic Church, Halloween — with Erlinda Abellera, Princess Joy Saoy Illana, Lolit Taningco and 40 others.

  63. Rose Paz Wierenga

    Neil Allen, any church on earth will be made up of sinners. That the Catholic Church has stood up to the test of time of fallible humans is, in itself, an evidence that God is with that Church. Pope Frances may have forgiven those sinners who committed terrible deeds (as his office calls him to do for repentant sinners), but he did not actively "protect" them. Where is your proof, sir, of this lie you are perpetuating? Do you not know you bear false witness when you do that? You harp on the wrongs that happened in the past (20, 30, 40 years ago?) by about 1 percent of the entire priesthood and you condemn other innocent priest and the Church alongside them? Then yet you refuse to see the historical fact based on the Bible that Jesus gave Peter the keys to heaven and continues to do so with the help of the Holy Spirit and that the Catholic Church is the ONLY institution to show rightful succession to the present?

    Would you rather be part of a church started by someone claiming to be an angel yet was taken to court for molestation and rape like Iglesia ni Christo founder Manalo, who later DIED but now his CHILDREN carry on his work of tearing down Christ's church, the universal church? Or by someone like Smith who claimed things then later recanted them in a court of law? Or, would you rather not follow any church (even the church that Christ started) and claim yourself to be the best judge of how you get to heaven? Good luck with that as you know what they say about lawyers who take themselves as clients.

    Yes, be indignant for the victims, but if you must judge the perpetrators then place proper blame on infallible INDIVIDUALS who did NOT follow the teachings that, to this day, is still true and good for this world to people who DO follow their teachings.

  64. Jaizer Manuel

    Rafael Malonzo it is not her own words, i think that ms. Dafny know how to read and understand the Bible and from she stated above, those words are from Jesus Christ himself.

  65. Jaizer Manuel

    Juan Dela Cruz im afraid you really dont understand the bible. i pity you im sorry.. your given verses are all came from the apostles yet you dont understand what are they talking… one thing, does jesus christ himself say that he is GOD??? what verse/s?

  66. Jaizer Manuel

    Juan Dela Cruz im afraid you really dont understand the bible. i pity you im sorry.. your given verses are all came from the apostles yet you dont understand what are they talking… one thing, does jesus christ himself say that he is GOD??? what verse/s?

  67. MeMe Pascual

    Mark Fabian Try to recall the ten commandments. Your message doesn't make sense. How come a person know what is right and what is wrong if He doesn't believe in God. Not necessarily? Seriously? That's a basic but most powerful commandment. And I say commandment, it is a law. A man cannot be saved by doing good and/or righteousness alone without believing in God because He is the way to salvation. We know that knowledge of being good in the Bible and the Bible came from teachings of God. And if you try to read again the article the Pope believe in God.

  68. Jody Tabajonda

    Juan Dela Cruz
    Sir why u'r not try to read in the catholic bible Matthew 23:9 and u will find out what bonanza said! have a good day!

  69. Aaron De Guzman

    @veronique – have you read the article? It says Pope Francis is more lenient on subjects like homosexuality and atheism. He's a very open-minded and understanding person.

  70. Mark Fabian

    MeMe Pascual I didn't say that I don't believe in God. What I meant was for Veronique. I personally believe in my God but then again, there will always be people that will not have the same belief as yours and that we should accept it. Well, if they rely deny the concept of a supreme being then, they might as well just be productive and good citizens, right? Besides, they could never acknowledge a commandment of a God that they do not believe in. Nowadays, some people do not need a concept of God to live a moral life. Goodness is manifested in thoughts, in words and in deeds. Although we, as believers, believe that the manifestation of goodness is lacking without faith in God, we cannot fully convince everyone to believe in the concept of God. Well, if they don't want to believe, they might as well create and manifest goodness, correct?

  71. Mark Fabian

    Wag po ganyan kuya. Di naman tinuro ng Diyos na mamintas ng ibang tao. Ang maling gawain ay di ugnay sa gawain ng Diyos. Kung mali ang ginagawa ng iba, di naman kailangan pintasan kasi kung ganyan man lang, pinapakita mo lang na di ugnay ang gawain mo sa gawain ng Diyos.

  72. Yum Cabrera-Rodriguez

    THERE WAS ONLY ONE CHRISTIAN RELIGION BEFORE WHEN ONE MAN DECIDED TO HAVE HIS SEPARATE CHURCH AND IT BECAME A TREND.

  73. Veronique Bulong

    MeMe Pascual Whatever is contained in the ten commandments is common sense/basic morality. You need not be a believer to know what is right and what is wrong. There's something called self-consciousness, a thing that sets us apart from animals.
    Aaron De Guzman Yes. I have read it. I actually like the current pope. I think he's the best one, so far. I was referring to people who keep suffocating others with their constant preaching. It's just hateful.

  74. Mark Fabian

    Veronique Bulong Indeed. Religion in itself could also be taken as a way of life rather than following a supreme being. I myself am a believer of God but an open minded one at that. Within my circle of friends I'm probably the only one that's not an atheist, yet I can keep my social interactions and my life with them intact and still promote goodness behind our differences (I always keep that one rule "no religion bashing, even if it is other denominations that we're talking about"). As long as we promote goodness and we do not deviate from our moral obligations and our civil duties, we can live a life of goodness that is suggested by our current Pope.

  75. Evie Bodnariuk

    I got my ass kicked in catholic school for stating god is god he is not catholic lol. He has good intentions but is still protecting pedophilies. I guess he thinks his zombie followers will forget that.

  76. Shannon Kirk

    I left the Catholic Church YEARS ago! I was so disgusted with what it seemed to stand for and against- it
    Made
    Me sick! However, the more I learn about this new Pope, the more I like him! he seems to be dragging the church, kicking and screaming into the every day world of the common man, and it's a good thing! Perhaps I will find my way back to the church one day

  77. Thea Angelie Braga-Manila

    This is so true!! In my entire existence, never have I heard any priest or nun saying nasty things about other religions. They just keep on teaching everyone to love our brothers and sosters regardless of the differences which I think I have done. I don't know why they're being taught to bash Catholics.

  78. Ghany Penales Lualhati

    MeMe Pascual You don't need a god or religion to know what is right and wrong. If you want to be a good person, be good and do good. That's all. And that "if you don't have a religion or god, you're a bad person" logic is pretty fucked up.

  79. Aaron De Guzman

    How will you learn what is right and good, immoral and moral, ethical and non ethical? Even atheists learn from what they see on what the believers do. They just do not agree at some points. No one says "If you're not a believer of any god, you're a bad person." It's just unfortunate that they were not taught well to keep the name of the Lord but they still have they're free will to choose among paths. People encourages you to join with any worships but keep in mind, believers do not force you to do so as God forgives you.

  80. Martin E Cruz

    If, as Pope Francis states, God is not a Catholic God, then what reason is there for the Roman Catholic Church Organization's and all other church and religious organizations' continued worldly existence? Does not every one of these different church and religious organization propose and preach a different god other than the Biblical God?

  81. Karen Eicher

    God bless pope Francis. I have have suspected, since I was in elementary school, the idea Christians, Hindus
    Islamic people etc. are describing & appealing to when they say, God, is the same.

  82. Mannix Pelingon

    My dear friend, if you left the Church simply because of its error and fallibility of leaders you better not return in Catholic Faith. A Catholic follower expects lot of difficulties, scandals, errors, undermining of the teachings and even persecution of its believers. A faithful Catholic who has deeply understood what he/she believed in will resist, withstand and forebear all of this. Catholic Faith is beautiful, rich and has a lot of splendor but it never exists without its worst counterparts – the CROSS. If your faith depends on its leaders alone, you will end up restless.

  83. Shannon Kirk

    Mannix, I never lost
    My faith, simply in my faith in the church- there is a difference!

  84. Elias Sotiriou

    Mannix Pelingon Read what you said. Then think with your own brain.