Prove Erick at TechCrunch Wrong

Tech : Duncan Riley
Posted: June 20, 2008

The video above explains why this post from Erick at TechCrunch is wrong: Seesmic’s new inline reply and inline threaded comment system is brilliant. I only wish I was an investor in Seesmic…and oddly enough Erick’s boss MA is. Still, always good to see that despite the conflict of interest that opposite views are tolerated, even when they are completely wrong as in this case.

My only request: if you’d like to respond to this video with a comment, or even a simple G’day, do so via playing the video above then commenting inline using the record feature in the embed itself, so we can prove this works.

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Tyler 3 months ago 1 point
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i would reply via seesmic but i don't have a webcam :(

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CyndyA 3 months ago 1 point
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See, here's my argument. I don't have time to sit through videos. I still haven't watched your copyright one because it's difficult to sit through ages and ages of video when I read much faster, and can leave and come back from the printed page. Add in the huge number of people who are in an office and can't play videos, and the people like me whose home office is such chaos with children that they can't pay attention or hear them, and there's a good portion of the population that isn't watching them. If there are Seesmic comments on a blog, I generally skip right over them.

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mathewi 3 months ago 1 point
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What Cyndy said :-)

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CyndyA 3 months ago 1 point
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Now that's downright scary. :)

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erickschonfeld 3 months ago 1 point
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Duncan, if you wanted to prove me wrong the video comments in the player would have been replicated here in your regular comments thread—no matter where people see the original video and are replying from. But that is not possible today.

Also, I never say blogs have exclusive rights to comments as you suggest in your video. What I am saying is that there should be a way to redistribute comments about a particular post made elsewhere (Twitter, FriendFeed, Seesmic) back to that post so that the comments exist in multiple places. I think that would enrich the conversation.

And I too think that Seesmic's inline reply feature is impressive, which is why I wrote about it. I just want it (and other off-blog comments systems) to do more.

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Otir 3 months ago 1 point
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It works. And I can still leave a written comment here, if it matters so much for people to "possess" comments on their own blog (if I understood the underlying rationale for calling it a "highjacking of comments"... This seemed to me such a mercantile perspective, when mine is made of totally different goals and underlying values. Sharing points of views. Conversations.

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Otir 3 months ago 1 point
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Everybody is different, I also work from home, I alpha-tested Seesmic for months because I could see its potential for my own purposes, and it allowed me to develop new organization techniques that allow me to enjoy the video dimension as well as the written one. I had to change some of my habits that's all. New media will bring new behaviors. Judging a media by the established behaviors is not a positive thing, it's just resistance to change!

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CyndyA 3 months ago 1 point
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Otir, you think that companies aren't going to mind employees in cube farms watching video comments on blogs? You work in a home office, but is it over-run with children? There's only so much behavior can change, and if the changed behavior is to slow me down so that I'm even more behind? It's not going to happen. It's not resistance; it's reality.

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Otir 3 months ago 1 point
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Hi CydyA! I didn't mean ill in using the term "resistance to change", and I do agree w/you that reality is a given reason at a given time to use such or such means. I am just pointing out that I personally believe videos will bring a different set of corporate behaviors too, and a change in the way we communicate in the world, expanding from written communication to a different kind, but yes, it will take time, the same as it took time when computers arrived, when the phone arrived, when the trains replaced the coaches, etc. :-)

And yes, my home is over-run with children. I made a choice of staying there because among other reasons, I care for a severely challenged special kid.

Also I have always wondered how companies were dealing with employees in cube farms pretending they were doing other things while blogging anyway. But that's a whole other story, isn't it? :-)

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Andy 3 months ago 1 point
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Whose has copyright over comments ?

“the contemporary intent of copyright is to promote the creation of new works by giving authors control of and profit from them.”

The creation of an artistic work brings about the rights which are inherit to copyright law. Any artistic work (refer to the statutory definition) includes written works. Comments are written and therefore those rights are passed to the author. There is no agreement - explicit or implied - which allows you to gain exclusive ownership over comments because their is no relationship which provides you automatic ownership by mere occasion.

I think its more an issue of the anonymity on the internet and the fact that the only identifiable and tracable piece of evidence which can confer copyright ownership in a dispute is binary code and IP addresses.

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Świeradów 1 month ago 1 point
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June 20, 2008 at 1:19 am Svetlana Gladkova

Interesting experiment Duncan
June 20, 2008 at 7:33 am Erick Schonfeld

You are actually proving me right. Because not only do I have to comment on your blog, but also here on FriendFeed under each of the entries for this same post (RSS feed, Seesmic post, Twitter feed). It is pain in the ass. i should only have to respond once and the comments should be distributed everywhere.

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