On last night’s episode of ABC’s Jimmy Kimmel Live!, Donald Trump, either knowingly or unknowingly, went back on a lie he told recently in which he claimed he had never falsified his identity.
On May 13, Trump appeared on the TODAY show and dismissed a rumor going around that he had gone under the false aliases “John Barron” and sometimes “John Miller” when posing as a publicist (“Barron” is now his son’s name). The story went that Trump had told reporters he was Barron or Miller and talked himself (Trump) up. That simply was not true, said Donald Trump at the time.
But last night, reports The Guardian, Trump told a different story, freely admitting that he had falsely gone under the name “Barron” many times. Donald did not go so far as to say that he had masqueraded as his own publicist in order to gain an unfair advantage in the press, but he did say he had supplied the fake name during many real estate deals to avoid paying fees.
“I made a very good deal using that name,” Trump told Kimmel.
“I used an alias in terms of setting up a meeting with Mr. Donald Trump, and it was, and many people in the real estate business do that. You use aliases, and you have to do it. Otherwise they find out it’s you, and they charge you more money and nobody wants to pay more money,” he added.
It is unclear why exactly Trump believes he would have been charged more had he not lied about his name.
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Trump did not mention ever having used the name “John Miller,” but he did allude to having gone by more names than just “Donald Trump” and “John Barron.”
“You know, over the years I’ve used aliases. And when I’m in real estate and especially when I was out in Brooklyn with my father and I’d want to buy something.”
Despite a recently surfaced phone recording of Trump’s “publicist” promoting Donald in a 1991 phone interview in which the voice of the “publicist” sounds suspiciously like Trump’s, he continued to deny he had posed as his own publicist. He addressed the recording directly, saying that the alleged publicist’s voice did not even sound like his.
“It didn’t sound like me, though, really. You think that sounded like me?”
“Yeah,” Jimmy Kimmel replied to thunderous laughter.
In characteristic Donald Trump manner, he continued to stubbornly deny the allegation, ignoring the fact that practically everyone in the studio was sure it was his voice in the recording.
“I will say this: To me, that didn’t sound like my voice.”
In his interview with Kimmel, Trump pointed out that back in 1991, when he was considerably lesser-known than he is now, it was easy for him to get away with passing his voice off as someone else’s. But now that he is one of the most recognizable public figures on the planet, there is no way Donald Trump can get away with going unidentified when he speaks over the phone. His tone, his mannerisms, his favorite words… they are all well known, and they are dead giveaways.
Now that the entire American population has a better idea of what Trump sounds like, The Washington Post located Sue Carswell, the People magazine rep Donald Trump’s “publicist” talked to in 1991, and played her the recording. Afterwards, they asked her whether she thought the voice had indeed belonged to Trump himself.
“It’s absolutely Donald Trump,” Carswell replied without hesitation. “There’s no doubt in my mind.”
Check out the video below, in which the recording is played, and tell us what you think. Was “Barron” actually Trump or just someone who sounded vaguely like him?
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