John Mayer Talks About Ex Taylor Swift In New Interview

John Mayer is finally talking about his ex Taylor Swift, but it’s not what you think. Mayer sat down for an interview with Ronan Farrow for MSNBC 7 Days of Genius special, and during their talk Swift was brought up as a talking piece for the industry.

While Ronan hinted that it might be awkward to bring Taylor Swift up by name, Mayer welcomed the conversation, because she was used as an example to discuss artists with a large platform and pop cultural influence. “We have to talk about Taylor Swift! We have to be able to talk about Taylor Swift!”

Instead of ignoring Swift’s existence, Mayer spoke about his ex and how she can easily be a voice for the voiceless independent artists.

Swift famously spoke out against the music platform Spotify, which offers full catalogues of albums for listeners to stream.

Late last year, Swift explained why she chose to leave Spotify when she was interviewed for Time magazine’s cover story.

“[People] can still listen to my music if they get it on iTunes. I’m always up for trying something. And I tried it and I didn’t like the way it felt. I think there should be an inherent value placed on art.”

She continued, “I didn’t see that happening, perception-wise, when I put my music on Spotify. Everybody’s complaining about how music sales are shrinking, but nobody’s changing the way they’re doing things. They keep running towards streaming, which is, for the most part, what has been shrinking the numbers of paid album sales.”

The fact that Taylor Swift spoke so openly about being against Spotify rubbed some people the wrong way, but according to her ex John Mayer he thought it was “really cool” for her to take a stand against the service.

“Artists need the person with the loudest voice to speak for them,” said Mayer.

When Ronan asked if she was the one that’s using her influence in a positive way, Mayer didn’t shy away from answering.

“I think so, when you say that.. I think that’s a really cool thing for a musician to do. Like two percent of the music industry has 80 percent of all the media about it. There’s like four people who get all the press, and if any of those four people say, ‘I want to speak for those people who would just never make this a story’—The only reason we’re talking about Taylor Swift taking Spotify on is because she’s Taylor Swift!”

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