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Welfare Lottery Ban Another Example Of How America Hates Its Poor

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A welfare lottery ban proposed in North Carolina has become a viral internet debate (with most coming down in favor of the strangely invasive and paternalistic measure) and remains a sad example of how Americans have taken to blaming and demonizing the poor for enduring economic frailty.

The welfare lottery ban seems to be one of a continual stream of GOP proposals to stigmatize, humiliate or otherwise micromanage the lives of those who rely on public assistance to get by. (It should be noted for the record that when it’s counter-proposed that lawmakers who also rely on public money for salary be similarly sanctioned, they balk.)

An earlier post on The Inquisitr about the welfare lottery ban has attracted a decent amount of attention — with nearly all comments in favor of such a measure, despite the relative small amount we spend on public assistance as a country. Similar posts about food stamps and other forms of poverty help draw the same reaction, with a strongly voiced desire to see suffering and restriction heaped upon the impoverished, many of whom are the working poor.

Here’s how the inevitable support goes — if you have the money for lottery tickets, you shouldn’t be on welfare, right? Well, wrong. Lottery tickets are a fairly cheap thrill for the impoverished, and even the very, very financially strapped usually set a few dollars aside each week for entertainment. Moreover, the level of intrusiveness required — the lawmaker who proposed the initiative has stated “poor people” may not understand the unlikely chance of a lottery win — is both foolhardy and stereotypical in its assumption.

Rep. Paul Stam, the Republican congressman responsible, has introduced a proposal that sounds entirely ideological in both theory and execution. Of the welfare lottery ban, it would involve a clerk intuiting at the point of purchase whether an individual is likely on welfare — we’re sure that won’t be applied in any racist ways — and humiliatingly asking whether or not they receive public assistance before selling a lotto ticket to them.

As far as we can tell, no sanction will be applied should a clerk sell a lottery ticket to a welfare recipient — it’s merely a proposed bit of legislation to remind poor people that they are far less entitled to privacy than their fellows, one more unnecessary humiliation heaped upon a population consisting of many (children of suspected food stamp recipients, the disabled, the elderly) with no domain over whether or not they remain poor.

Woman humiliated over food stamps

The Guardian Express expresses similar reservations, noting that the completely toothless and spiteful welfare lottery ban proposal will yield no difference save for stigma, writing:

“When Stam himself states the law would only be enforced when it is obvious that a person is on welfare, it seems the point would be moot, as people would become crafty and make their purchases at a separate store or a different day. Moreover, what of the individual in bankruptcy? How would a clerk know about their status? Perhaps, they would have a henna tattoo on their forehead that would wear out as soon as their bankruptcy was final and they were once again allowed to purchase the forbidden tickets.”

Notably absent, of course, are recipients of corporate welfare — but we suppose they’ve become so rich off the public teat, it’s like a lottery of its own. Who needs Powerball when you’ve got oil and agriculture subsidies, right?

The problem with the support for likely unconstitutional and certainly unkind stigmatizing legislation like the welfare lottery ban is not so much it’s a poor way to treat your fellow humans committing no crime other than poor arithmetic skills, it’s that when you point fingers, as movie Mike Brady says, four fingers are pointing back at you.

Few intend to rely on public assistance, and many of you reading this post will undoubtedly find yourself unexpectedly requiring this sort of help — or watching a friend or child who encounter rough times.

When we suggest things like a welfare lottery ban, it not only erodes search and seizure protections for our poorer fellow citizens, but for us. It doesn’t just stigmatize poverty for others, it similarly sanctions us should we ever be in for unforeseen income drops.

A welfare lottery ban is not just a bad and unnecessary law, it’s a poor showing of American decency, and those who would advocate it should remember many of us live a paycheck away from financial ruin ourselves. Better we spend our time and resources on making a welfare lottery ban less necessary by making more jobs for welfare recipients, right?

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103 Responses to “Welfare Lottery Ban Another Example Of How America Hates Its Poor”

  1. Jeff Barker

    If they cant afford to pay for their taxes, why should I pay for the lotto tickets? So stupid, pass the bill, they don't need lotto tickets.

  2. Jeff Barker

    Oh… good way to think about it…. NOT. Out of the hundreds of thousands of familes on welfare, how many do you think will hit the lotto and wont need welfare anymore? Probably less then 5. That's a stupid point to try and argue.

  3. Janaye Cox

    I keep hearing about welfare. I do not know anybody that is getting welfare, at least not in my state. I do know about foodstamps but you can not use those to play the lottery. The only group of people that I know of who get welfare is large Cooperations. If that is the people he is talking about then I agree.

  4. Joe Watson

    I thought extreme stupidity was just limited to the federal government. Has anyone else noticed the barrage of attacks on our rights and privileges? So someone has the hope of hitting a jackpot and getting the hell off of welfare. Hell, let's just give them no hope at all! You can't buy lottery tickets with food stamps anyhow. I've seen people collecting cans from the roadside to get a few bucks. So what if they spend it on lottery tickets! The poor are responsible for THE biggest amount of the jackpots, so why are you all crying? Oh, I forgot. All of you self righteous, self centered, self appointed guardians of the public morality know what's best for everyone! Let people have their dreams and clean up your own lives!

  5. Jeff Barker

    Maybe they should clean up their lives by going out and getting jobs instead of leaching onto the goverment for money.

  6. Kim LaCapria

    Jeff Barker Nearly as stupid as passing a law with no consequences and reasonable means of enforcement and wasting tax dollars?

  7. Blake Love

    I get government assistance… I'm disabled and in a wheel chair and you think I'm not good enough to be able to play the lotto… I've payed my dues and have accomplished more in my lifetime than you will in your entire existence.. Last time I looked you cocky fuktard your name isn't on jack shit I own or pay for. So in closing please do everyone a giant favor and swallow a 9mm bullet or two!!!! you worthless cock bite.

  8. Anonymous

    According to the writer we cannot tell them where to spend their entertaiment dollars, but we can tell them where to spend their food dollars, no oreo's no pop/soda, no twinkies, but all the lottery tickets you want.
    If you control food you can control lottery, if you can't control lottery you can't control food! pick a position!

  9. Anonymous

    oh an you do not see anybody using foodstamps anymore because they have debit cards so they don't feel bad abou tbeing poor. that is fine but it is welfare you just don't see it. and in massachussetts you can use the debit card ANYWHERE! Liquor store, Lottery, EVEN THE STRIP CLUB! YES THE STRIP CLUB! Do not kid yourself it can be used foranything, and if you are one of they very few states that don't you soon will. Even the OLD conservative state of NH is following Mass lead.

  10. Kim LaCapria

    This is an unequivocally false statement. You cannot pay for non-food items with SNAP funds, even diapers, toilet paper and pet food.

  11. Kim LaCapria

    I did not say that anywhere in my piece. SNAP guidelines allow for Oreos, Twinkies and soda to be purchased. And SNAP funds CANNOT BE USED FOR LOTTO TICKETS.

  12. Joe Watson

    Jeff Barker Maybe there should be a job for them to get! I live in a town where a massive Burlington plant shut down,Carolina Mills shut down,Mechanic shops and body shops shut down because of the Oprahodigy Obama's cash for clunkers plan! I worked 42 years of my life and I never,ever had a problem finding a job. Get your know it all ass out there now and try to find one!

  13. Jeff Barker

    No need to find one when Ive already got one… talk about a Mr. Knowitall…

  14. Sandra Theresa

    Mean isn't the word to describe that my friend, its down right pathetic, and yes I fully agree with ur statement- Demons are what they are.

  15. Edie Kappenberg

    It is when they receive welfare money they always have money for Lotto, beer, cigarettes, and tattoos. Retrictions should be imposed so welfare dollars buy food, clothes etc.

  16. Teresa Gammon

    No this is not being mean. There are people who really need help. But it should not be a lifelong issue.To give to a welfare recipient it first has to be taken from someone else.But never should welfare be used to buy alcohol, lottery tickets etc. It is meant to be used until you get back on your feet and not to have a bunch of children and then teach them how to live off of others just as the parents do.The cradle to the grave mentality has to stop but eventually these programs will bankrupt the country. It is always fun and games to use other people's money and not be required to do a damn thing to improve your own life.

  17. Jeff Barker

    Oh, Im pathetic because I dont want to pay for lazy peoples lotto tickets? People like you make me sick.

  18. Joe Watson

    I'm sorry. Let me explain so even you can understand. If I have a dollar,I can either buy a lottery ticket or a loaf of bread. What I do with that dollar is MY choice,not yours. I also had a job my whole working life and no one had any right to tell me how to spend my pay. You cannot buy a lottery ticket with welfare cards and no one has any right to tell anyone what to do with what belongs to them. Instead of wasting a lot of time on an ignorant welfare lottery ban,how about concentrating on running the government,creating more jobs,rebuilding the economy,and doing what is BEST for state and country! You can really tell when democrats are in office by all the trivial bullshot that goes down.

  19. Jeff Barker

    If you're on welfare you shouldn't have any money leftover for luxuries such as lottery. (Or drugs,alcohol, and cigarettes.) Basically all the cool things that come with having a JOB… plain and simple.

  20. Nicki Sickles

    Good article. Not everyone who recieves food stamps is a lazy bum who doesn't work. Some have just fallen on hard times. Of course there are those who take advantage of the system, you have that in anything that involves money. That doesn't mean we get to discriminate against people because they don't have much money.

  21. Kim LaCapria

    Thank you! If laws like this had any meaningful impact, it would be a different debate, but the argument for seems to be: "well, people should suffer more." It's very sad.

  22. Kim LaCapria

    Jeff Barker Well, I really like the Constitution. Under the 4th Amendment, we are protected from search and seizure without a warrant. How do you propose monitoring how people spend their money while maintaining this right?

  23. Rodney Hamilton

    I think the real problem here is these poverty stricken people are spending far more money than they should on lottery and not enough of it to meet their most dire needs. The only way to truly ban them from purchasing tickets is to prevent them from using their welfare provided means for purchase tickets. And of course, they could instead come up with a couple of bucks a week and purchase 1 or two tickets a week. Who is to prevent anyone from doing that. However, if these people are using there welfare debit cards or food stamps or whatever to buy many tickets per week, I can see that as a legitimate problem to be addressed.

  24. Kim LaCapria

    How do you know how much money people on welfare spend on lottery tickets? There is as far as I am aware no study or data with these figures.

    As for your other suggestion, people already are unable to spend public funds on lottery tickets. SNAP cards work on limited items.

  25. Jeff Barker

    The Constitution? Well here with President welfare in the white house, we wont have a Constitution here soon.

  26. Anonymous

    has anyone noticed the attack on my wallet? if they are on welfare they should be drug tested and prohibited from buying cigarettes, alcohol and lottery tickets. I have no problem helping someone who really needws it however if you can afford to smoke drink and gamble you can afford to buy your own food.

  27. Anonymous

    this is just stupid. the welfare queen will just give the welfare money that they get to the freeloader drug dealer boy friend, or to a sorry family member, to go buy a ticket. just stop giving them cash. still this stops nothing. the welfare queen simply gos and buys some loser food for cash on there welfare card. devildogcarl semperfidelis.

  28. Anonymous

    I don't hate the poor, hell I'm poor my self and I bust my ass every week, to eat. I hate the f..in lazy asses out there. devildogcarl semperfidelis.

  29. Bill Cooper

    I am all for not having the public continue paying for this waste of taxpayer money. Just like the story in the N.Y. Post exposing how our welfare dollars go to strip clubs and adult entertainment and booze. Get a job and buy your own if that is your pleasure.

  30. Steve Sharp

    An interesting attack on the GOP. In the state where I live, Alabama, the DEMS will not allow the passage of a lottery because THEY claim that it preys on the poor. So, meanwhile, everyone in this state who wants to play the lottery is helping to fund college educations for kids in Georgia, Florida, and Tennessee via their lotteries. The simple truth is that we cannot save people from themselves. If they want to take money they received from government assistance and spend it on lottery tickets, or cigarettes, or meth, or anything else, we're not going to legislate them into doing otherwise. The main thing, though, is that it's fine if you choose to vilify the GOP for encroaching on these people's right to play the lottery, but I'm here to tell you that there is no small number of Dems that seem to think that giving poor people easy access to lottery tickets is a bad idea.

  31. Anonymous

    Kim LaCapria allot of these people make deals with party store with everything from wick funds to whatever to get cash so they can buy lottery tickets, cigerattes etc. Yes there are people that need help but if your asking for my money then i should decide how its used not you. Help is for food, transportation etc., not pleasure, these things can help you get back on your feet so you can pay for yourself. The thing you forget is that you say these people need entertainment, well try working hard for a week and then seeing your money missused by people who sit home playing the lottery, drinking and not even trying to get a job.

  32. Joe Vest

    I live in NC and when the recent record breaking power ball lottery tickets were being sold I was standing behind a family in the grocery store paying with an ebt card. Afterwards I went to a gas station and the same family was inside buying 100.00 worth of lottery tickets. This made me furious because they had more meat in their grocery cart than I did and I cannot afford to buy lottery tickets!

  33. Jezebelj Ferrentino

    I love how everyone makes it sound like welfare recipients get hundreds of dollars for free to go out and buy top of the line products and beer and tobacco and lottery tickets. I get 132 dollars a MONTH to help me buy food. and the amount of money disability gives me for basic expenses wont even cover the cost of a 1 bedroom apartment in most states I live in. yes I scrimp and save a dollar now and then for a lottery ticket in hopes of winning and getting myself off of public benefits. I don't smoke I dotn drink and if you think living in my body is as easy as just getting off my lazy ass and losing a few pounds ill switch bodies with you any day. I guarantee by the end of the month you wont be a triathlete weighing 140lbs, and hired by any business that you walk into. I also didn't get in to a severe problem as I have now by just being lazy watching tv and eating all day. I was in a severe accident, and the meds and treatments and being off my feet for years during the recovery period messed with my body in ways that people off disability with functioning bodies could never understand. Don't you think a person like me would rather have a functioning body then pt 3 days a week many medicines a day and the inability some days to even stand or walk as far as the mail box let alone to go walking daily? I loved my navy base job loved the work and the thinks I could afford to do with my pay, and would wish welfare or even being eligable for welfare on anyone. Before you judge and say well it comes out of my taxes and I cant do, and generalizing welfare down to a few bad apples, try walking a mile in my body… I bet you cant do it.

  34. Anonymous

    @ Kim LaCapria – Your drivel speaks volumes of just how twisted you liberals really are. I say let them by all the tickets they want, spend it all. This way we can collect their FAIR SHARE of funding by sending those dollars right back to the state. See Kim, you “feel good” liberals always fail to think things through; the more you intervene the more damage you cause. You really should get with the liberal talking points because most liberals are against gaming of any kind for the poor because they “feel” gaming preys on the poor. So Kim, besides your obvious hatred towards the working man, success, and self-reliance, perhaps you’re racist too, is that it?

  35. William Walls

    "relative small amount we spend on public assistance as a country".Are you kidding? We spend billions on these lazy peice of shits.Also the should ban them from alcohol and make them work for the government while collecting there free money, instead of sittiing on there fat asses.I know plenty of Welfare dupers in Boston driving Mercedes and Hummers living large while I pay 40% of my check giving these frauds there free ride!

  36. Jamie Lee

    People complain that there is not enough work. Where I live, there are SEVERAL businesses hiring; yet people nit-pick at what they would do or not do; a lot of it having to do with their "pride". Granted I know there are places that truly are suffering the economic fail, but that is something that needs to be taken to the legislate. Our government wants to keep paying other countries to do jobs that WE could do ourselves, but they give them to the others because they will work for far less money, and with fewer complaints or struggles. If they opened up the pipeline going from the Canadian border down to South Texas, that would open up about 20,000 jobs, if not more. My husband works in the oil field, and people bitch because he makes good money doing so. NEWSFLASH: He (along with the others working in the oil and agricultural industry) work very hard for the money that they EARN. Getting back on topic…If the people on welfare would SAVE that (even $1 a day) money that they spend on lottery tickets, that would be money that they can use to their financial benefit, instead of blowing it foolishly on something that is a slim to none chance of winning. I think the bill should be passed; times are hard, and I know when I struggled with my finances, every PENNY counted, and I was smart enough to bust my ass to save every cent to spend it on things that mattered. I'm not saying that anyone has a right to force someone to spend their money on something specific, but come on people; think about it. What is the wiser decision? If you can't see the answer to that, then you really need your eyes opened to reality.

  37. William Walls

    Kim,all you have to do is go to an atm and get cash with your ebt card,so it is not a false statement.I khnow people who buy ebt cards for 50% of there value as soon as the layabouts get em.Also they trade em for drugs right on the street corner.

  38. Marie Brophy

    Yes, people that shouldn't be on public assistance should be "weeded out" but I don't think this is the way to do it. I mean, how are you to know? Are you going to ask people if they have a benefits card if they go to buy the tickets? Also, if these politicians are so upset about people on welfare, why don't they do something about it like put more funding into programs to help those people get back on their feet? Just a thought.

  39. Kathy Cook

    When did not being able to buy a lottery ticket mean you were suffering? Are you serious? I wish they would do away with the da** lottery! I watch lines of people, most of them on fixed incomes (the elderly) purchase $100 or more of lottery tickets all for the chance at the big dream. You know your chances of getting struck by lightning 2x is better than hitting the lottery. I'm not advocating for the gov't to get into our lives anymore, but really, suffering because you can't buy a lottery ticket?

  40. Kathy Cook

    I'm always amazed at how much cash they have in their wallets when they are paying w/their ebt(?) card.

  41. Kathy Cook

    I'm always amazed at how much cash they have in their wallets when they are paying w/their ebt(?) card.

  42. Kim LaCapria

    I have never seen the amount of cash in a fellow shopper's wallet. How close would you have to be to a person to COUNT THE BILLS IN THEIR WALLETS.

  43. Kim LaCapria

    Did anyone stop to consider that perhaps strip club ATMs were used .. by women who work there and struggle to feed their kids? There's no way to find out who used them or why.

  44. Kim LaCapria

    That is false. Some people get cash assistance, but most needy folks get food stamps. You absolutely cannot use those to get cash.

  45. Kim LaCapria

    chris_antnie There are already laws to handle benefit fraud, extensive ones. This is a separate thing. If someone is 'making deals,' that is illegal and they get fined and banned from ever receiving assistance again.

  46. Wendy Pickett Turner

    Jeff Barker How do you know they don't already have a job? In order to get ANY public assistance in NC you have to work 30 hours a week, however not many companies pay livable salaries in NC or many other states. Some people need a little extra to help them make it from pay check to pay check so what's the problem in them spending $2 of their own money they have made for a little hope?

  47. Wendy Pickett Turner

    Rodney Hamilton The only thing they can use their EBT card to buy is food items so I don't think they are using them to buy lottery tickets in the first place lol.

  48. Wendy Pickett Turner

    They already cannot use their EBT card to purches alcohol, lottery tickets, cigarettes, or even toilet paper, it can only be used to buy food.

  49. Wendy Pickett Turner

    Exactly!!! There is no such thing as welfare anymore. The only thing anybody can receive anymore is food stamps and medical assistance, and to get that you have to work at least 30 hours per week. There is no such thing as a welfare check anymore so the money people have that they are spending is their own money they have worked for.

  50. Wendy Pickett Turner

    No one receives welfare money anymore. All they can buy with their EBT card in the first place is food. It already cannot be used to buy even clothes, toilet paper, or any other necessity except food.

  51. Wendy Pickett Turner

    Kim is right. You cannot buy anything but food with your EBT card and you cannot receive cash back from it.

  52. David Townsend

    They sell them 50 cents on the dollar and how they do that they go to the store with the buyer get what they need and get the cash then they go buy lottery tickets alkohal cigeretts whatever

  53. Kim LaCapria

    And again, this is ALREADY ILLEGAL TO DO. There are already sanctions for this. And the law as proposed does NOTHING to address that.

  54. Bruce Richmond

    AMEN to that. I'm tired of buying store brand food to save a few bucks while this trash gets to eat prime rib and name brand food. the money they do get from whatever source it comes from go to cig, alcohol, tatoos, and lotto. Half of them cant speak english but have 10 kids with 5 daddys. No matter how much we give them they will still have thier hand out for more. All those on this blog standing up for them are on well fare. funny thing is they are living in there goverment houses, with thier free internet all while using thier $300 iphone or $600 laptops.

  55. Joseph Rondini

    In ohio, if you are on disability or are elderly, you can choose to get your food stamp benefits in the form of cash on your EBT card.

  56. Joseph Rondini

    My mother and I are on disability, food stamps, get BOTH medicaid and medicare, get free cell phone and live in my dead grandma's house for free. We get a combined of $1440 cash a month and $300 food stamps. Yes my mom spends about $120 a month on lottery and I go to the casino with $300 every month, but I play blackjack and win more often than not. And we go out to eat twice a month for $100. We do not have new cars as we have to rent a car once or twice a month to go out and do errands, etc which costs $200 a month alone. But we don't have smartphones…no need for one since we got a free one, no $200 shoes either, heck me and my mom only have 1 pair of shoes to our name and 2 changes of clothes each. We do have cable and internet, but we don't have hot water and that is our choice. Our house is also old and needs so many repairs and updates, etc. So yes, we may drive a nice new $30,000 rental car, go to the casino, buy lottery tickets, eat out, but the rest of the 29-30 days in the month we live in hell. How would you like to only leave the house once or twice a month? You people need to mind your own business! Oh, and hate when people tell us to get a job, when we get more than we would working at walmart or mcdonalds. And we don't own a car to go to work and don't have clothes for work.

  57. Joseph Rondini

    Not true, I have never worked a day in my life and I get food stamps, medicaid AND medicare, SSI and SSDI, which is under my mom since I am an adult disabled child)

  58. Bruce Richmond

    Wendy Pickett Turner well you and kim are no doubt experts on wellfare. so tell me how many kids do you have by how many fathers that don't pay support. It is very easy for you to use your cards to get MONEY, as easy as buying drugs.

  59. Joseph Rondini

    How do you know that Mercedes isn't a rental car? My mom and I are on disability and food stamps and we have to rent a car to do errands and go places…and sometimes we treat ourselves to a luxury car or big SUV.

  60. Jamie Lee

    It's not mean in the least bit. People that are on welfare should SAVE every penny they have, to get back on their feet so they don't need to rely on government funding anymore.. Nowadays, people get on welfare just so they can sit on their lazy asses all day and not have to work, or anything. It's pure LAZINESS and should not be tolerated. If you are qualified to get a job, you shouldn't have to rely solely on welfare as your main source of income. If you don't have a job, you definitely should NOT be allowed to spend your money on anything that is not a NECESSITY ( which means NO beer, liquor, cigarettes, lottery tickets, etc). It is plain and simple. If those of us who are not on welfare have to bust our asses to support people that think they need it, WE should be able to choose what their… I mean OUR hard earned money is spent on. It's not like the money they get from welfare is actually theirs, anyways. They don't work for it..

  61. Kim LaCapria

    As intelligent as you appear to be *laughcough*, you do realize this is my job, right? I'm well compensated for the work I do, but I realize many people, women in particular, are not as lucky and don't have opportunities. I could easily talk about how I manage to support my family single-handedly and denigrate others facing the same struggle, but that would make a a truth-denying colossal jerk.

    I know the truth. Women are often left to care for their kids alone and after childcare, rent and bills are paid, they cannot afford basic nutrition.

  62. Charles Carle

    Vision cards are like a debit card. You can get cash back on them. Also, you can get financial assistance too, (at least in Kanas).And NO, I am not on "welfare"!

  63. Tracy Smith Guzman

    Wake up people…for those on here that say you can't use food stamps/SNAP cards for this & that – it can & is being done. You don't necessarily use the card per se but I know of people who will 'sell' them for money for anything – from buying personal items (clothes, shoes, etc.) to getting their car fixed and people who readily admit buying them from recipients. It's been going on for years whether with paper or cards..they will find a way to rework the system and not get caught. They make no secret of it because so many find it hard to keep their personal business quiet they will readily brag about it. As for welfare yes there are people who STILL receive that also, it's now called TANF (temporary assitance for needy families) with the emphasis NOT being on temporary. The cash benefits aren't much but they are there.

  64. Brandon Lee

    I work as a Food Stamp (SNAP) case worker, so I should have a little bit of a say so on this article. I started working my job a little over two years ago, with the idea that I was helping people in need out, unfortunately I was wrong. The people that truly need assistance does not receive it, the aged and disabled people, which truly breaks my heart. But the vast majority of people that I see (I have worked thousands of cases, mind you) don't work and have no intentions to work. I have held a job down since I was 15, I have client that has not worked for a decade or so. I am not ignorant, I know they're babies daddy is in the household or they are working under the table; cause I can view car registrations in the client's name and will see a 2011 BMW or so forth OR have a new Iphone that they are texting with. How come an 80 yr old woman, who just lost her husband can only get $16 per month but a perfectly healthy 29 yr old woman with 5 kids, never held a job, will get $600? And usually if a client is "working" they tell their boss they cannot go over a certain number of hours, cause it will affect their benefits. Does it sound like I am angry? Dang right I am, and you should be too.

  65. Gus Soriano

    Wendy Pickett Turner in California they still give welfare checks and no job is needed and they give the ebt cards for food, I don't know where you live but I wish we had your rules on public assistance.

  66. Michael Goncalves

    It's not about 'MEANNESS'—its about RESPONSIBILITY. I L-O-V-E VICE. Vice adds spice to our bland huminid existance. The problem with VICE is that sometimes, with some people, it goes beyond their ability to control it (Gambling, credit card debt, drugs, alcohol, religion, etc.). I suppose I could be patrionizing by saying 'The ROI for Lotto is extreamly poor for the poor, hence I forbid them to play it' Then I'd get out my Power-Point presentation(s) and chart the probability of their $20.00 dollar investment of hitting'. But why should I go through the effort to impart HORSE SENCE to people? I don't want to be placed into the position where I am 'supporting their lifestyle' and/or stupid decisions. If someone wants to pretend they're Amy WineHouse and Polish off THREE VODKA 750ml bottles in three hours—if its THEIR MONEY, knock your self out. My tax payer's money, my rules.

    It the same with TEXTING/SEXTING when driving. WHY spend BILLIONS of DOLLARS trying to convince people not to Text/Sext when driving—when 99.999999999999999999 will do it anyway if no one is looking (did I include myself on this list?). Why not have Smart Phones 'deactivate' when ever they move? BAM, the problem is solved!!! But what about an emergency…make an exception for 911 calls. Oh, Your'e just being MEAN!!! No, I'm just being an ADULT and imposing ADULT HOOD upon others. Suck it up, People!!!

  67. Nikke Shelton

    Playing the lottery….I was once told that if I stood on the roof of a 5 story bldg. and I tossed a nickle off and hit a Styrofoam cup on the sidewalk it would have better odds than winning the lottery. It's a waste of money and if homeless pick up cans and spend that money on lottery tickets they are wasting the taxpayers money. Joe Watson, I had to move and work all over this country to support my family, yes it's hard but I'm my own man. I would never waste my money on the lottery! My wife buys one once in a blue moon but as for looking for a windfall…..well we know we are on our own!

  68. Anonymous

    We all notice where this is going; its just that we can do nothing. Change the system from within (that worked really well for Mr Obama) pay your dues ( if you don't mind dying of old age while waiting patiently) get a college education (ask the teach for America captures why they are still working without pensions).
    It is obvious we are cycling through yet another historical squeeze that extracts assets and leaves the impoverished to be victimized by another 3 generational scam of building up to be used.

  69. Lori Thomas

    If they get cash back on their EBT card how is a clerk going to know they are on welfare? As long as they don't use their card at store where they get the ticket noone will know.

  70. Raechel Whitman

    Winning the lottery doesn't necessarily mean they will get off assistance. What about the woman in Michigan who hit for 1 million and continued to collect for like 2 years before the government caught up with her? Some people are not needy, just greedy.

  71. Bill Johnson

    we don't hate poor people so stop the ignorant biased headlines, we hate the fact that we the tax payers are subsidizing their gambling and smoking and drug habits and trips to the strip club when we are paying for it and they are suppose to be buying food and clothes and necesseties not crap, if they want to buy lottery tickets and steak and lobsbster then get a job and buy it with your own money not mine. That is like your neighbor asking for a $1000 loan to fix their roof so they and their family have a safe place to live but instead spend it on a vacation to Vegas, it is a slap in the face to hard working tax payers and if they abuse their ebt card and food stamps then they should be taken away from them, that simple!

  72. Tanae Browne

    Go Joe!!! I agree with you that thinking of this nature is pure lunacy!

    Stupidity, ignorance and hatred surpasses party affiliations everywhere in this country. These clowns need to realize the difficulty most people applying for food stampsendure. By the time their applications are accepted, they have nothing left in their bank accounts [yes they actually check this info], no where to live, except perhaps someone's basement or vehicle, etc. These are not deadbeats, freeloaders and spongers [like politicians who find excuses to vote no on anything that might get this country our of the rut it's in - yet never fail to vote themselves another raise at the taxpayers expense] of the govt.

    These were our friends and neighbors that up until the corporate buy-outs of the 80's, 90's sell-out of American jobs in exchange for everything from clean water to petroleum for our cars; had jobs, incomes and futures. Don't forget the effects of the corporated thieives who plundered, pillaged and pretty much got a way with fleecing workers' retirement plans in the early 2000's.

    Politicians and other people ignorant enough to buy into invasive policies such as this are too stupid to be breathing and if it's acceptible for this type of thinking to exist–I'll take it a little further and say who ever was insane enough to give birth to this gang of heathens ought to be rounded up deported to the other side of eternity!!!

  73. Tanae Browne

    Go Joe! I agree with you that thinking of this nature is pure lunacy!

    Stupidity, ignorance and hatred surpasses party affiliations everywhere in this country. These clowns need to realize the difficulty most people applying for food stampsendure. By the time their applications are accepted, they have nothing left in their bank accounts [yes they actually check this info], no where to live, except perhaps someone's basement or vehicle, etc. These are not deadbeats, freeloaders and spongers [like politicians who find excuses to vote no on anything that might get this country our of the rut it's in - yet never fail to vote themselves another raise at the taxpayers expense] of the govt.

    These were our friends and neighbors that up until the corporate buy-outs of the 80's, 90's sell-out of American jobs in exchange for everything from clean water to petroleum for our cars; had jobs, incomes and futures. Don't forget the effects of the corporated thieives who plundered, pillaged and pretty much got a way with fleecing workers' retirement plans in the early 2000's.

    Politicians and other people ignorant enough to buy into invasive policies such as this are too stupid to be breathing and if it's acceptible for this type of thinking to exist–I'll take it a little further and say who ever was insane enough to give birth to this gang of heathens ought to be rounded up deported to the other side of eternity!
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  74. Tanae Browne

    Go Joe! I agree with you that thinking of this nature is pure lunacy!

    Stupidity, ignorance and hatred surpasses party affiliations everywhere in this country. These clowns need to realize the difficulty most people applying for food stampsendure. By the time their applications are accepted, they have nothing left in their bank accounts [yes they actually check this info], no where to live, except perhaps someone's basement or vehicle, etc. These are not deadbeats, freeloaders and spongers [like politicians who find excuses to vote no on anything that might get this country our of the rut it's in - yet never fail to vote themselves another raise at the taxpayers expense] of the govt.

    These were our friends and neighbors that up until the corporate buy-outs of the 80's, 90's sell-out of American jobs in exchange for everything from clean water to petroleum for our cars; had jobs, incomes and futures. Don't forget the effects of the corporated thieives who plundered, pillaged and pretty much got a way with fleecing workers' retirement plans in the early 2000's.

    Politicians and other people ignorant enough to buy into invasive policies such as this are too stupid to be breathing and if it's acceptible for this type of thinking to exist–I'll take it a little further and say who ever was insane enough to give birth to this gang of heathens ought to be rounded up deported to the other side of eternity!

  75. Tanae Browne

    Politicians and other people ignorant enough to buy into invasive policies such as this are too stupid to be breathing and if it's acceptible for this type of thinking to exist–I'll take it a little further and say who ever was insane enough to give birth to this gang of heathens ought to be rounded up deported to the other side of eternity!

  76. Warped Sage

    Oh joy, another person hypocritically ranting about how self righteous others are, while being self righteous of others opinions.

  77. Warped Sage

    Honestly, as with most laws, it's not about enforcing it. It's about having a senatorial record, doing something flashy for their constituents, and creating stigma for and against their political party for the sake of the "bigger win". But, as a population we generally know all this, and reelect the incumbent anyways cause the alternative seems worse. As Plato/Socrates said, all things that begin start to end, we are just watching history unfold, naught much we can do about it. The inherent cause of this disease is yet left untreated, while we manage the symptoms with image spin. Not to say I am any better, I am just as helpless, powerless, slothful, and uninterested in real change.

  78. Anonymous

    I strongly feel that welfare recipients should not be allowed to purchase lottery tickets. When a person or family is getting financial and medical assistance from the state and federal levels which does come from the taxpayers money, there should be limits on what welfare recipients can and cannot purchase. All too often, the attitude is of entitlement-that people are entitled to any program or benefits that the government has to offer without making any modifications to their life style. Saying that this is one form of entertainment or a "chance'" to win money is not enough reason for the welfare person to use for an excuse. We all live in areas that have massive unemployment, and the chance of getting a job better or equal to the pay is unrealistic. Profession men and women have taken lesser paying jobs, including minimum wage jobs. The minimum wage job is plentiful. Nursing homes, hospitals and private in home health aides are begging for workers. It is hard work and minimum wage but it is a job on the books and therefore, a step in the right direction. How often, welfare recipients refuse minimum wage jobs. We are NOT self centered, self righteous but we are our brothers keeper. They are living on my dime, and at one time in my life, I did work minimum wage. Most of the young welfare clients can physically do the work but are not motivated enough to go out and get that job. Keeping the welfare on welfare is not the goal that most Americans want for the people. It is our tax dollars that are going into this program and the line has to be drawn at some point. Buying a lottery ticket isn't the answer nor should it be allowed. People shouldn't live on the dream that they will win the big one-and what are the chances of winning the money? A bolt of lightning would hit a person first before winning the big one. and even if that person spends a few dollars a week-that adds up to 156 dollars per year. To me that means a few meals on the table. What truly is disturbing that many people have the entitlement attitude and our society is divided because of that. I want a tv and I work to earn the money while others wait for a handout…and yet I am condemned because I want to control the welfare populations. PS…most handicapped people are fully employed. Some are para and quads from war and they do a pretty good job at work. Down Syndrome adults work full time. All kinds of disabilities are represented in the work force, most at minimum wage. What kind of excuses do you hear from the welfare population?

  79. Jamie Lee

    "That's every ones problem we have raised a generation of liberal homosexual over sensitive robots. Data? Studies? It's common sense i don't need a graph to show me what's going on. Most people on welfare have several kids no job and spend their money on pleasure like booze and drugs. I'm not saying they shouldn't be able to buy lotto tickets just not with their welfare money. Data????? Are you serious?? Pretty sure the constitution states " The pursuit of Life, Liberty, and happiness not everyone who isn't happy gets to mooch off the people who are happy. Get off the teat of irresponsibility, be an adult, get a job put the pipe down and focus on what really matters… Family and GOD. I can also assume that you voted for Obama, argue with your boss at work, are too proud to sweep the floors, have never served anything bigger the yourself,and have a child with a man your not married to and force him to pay $1,500 a month on child support while bitching when he misses a payment. And also using a self righteous argument that it takes every penny to raise a child while you use it to go party and buy new shoes. you can have all that I'm a red, white, and blue American; I love my country and the values that traditional America has instilled deep in my bones….SEMPER FI AND LONG LIVE AMERICA! People like you are draining this country and when you have what you want you won' t like it, and you'll be complaining for a change again." – Jamie's husband.

  80. Kim LaCapria

    Jamie Lee Ha. I am actually laughing out loud Jamie's "husband" had to reply for her. I actually have two kids and I am married, I support myself, and I (unlike Jamie) realize that women with kids are vulnerable.

    I don't rely on a man to fight my battles, bring home a paycheck or anything else.

    Let me guess, Jamie doesn't have a job? That's okay. I think we both know the answer to that.

    That's what I don't get about conservative women who think they "know" these things because the words in studies are too big and get all their info from Daytime TV. Read a book, learn something, and prepare for the fact that maybe your husband won't always be there to pick up your slack and support you.

    She looks very young, and I am sure you know young married people often face challenges, financial and otherwise. I do hope she finished high school and has a skill set – you know, in case you get bored and walk off.

    They have no skills, no job, no means of supporting themselves or their kids and they think ragging on OTHER women (or sending their husbands to do so, poorly) somehow protects them from being in the very spot they mock because they know they can't hack it. Sure hope neither of you will lose a job, divorce, have a special needs kid or otherwise are forced to rethink your judgment.

    I don't have to sweep floors at my job, this is my job.

    You don't know what people on welfare do… but maybe check some data and studies before you start beating up on people you don't know things about.

  81. Christopher Brophy

    This is an interesting article. It's kinda like be careful what you wish for when it comes to the government helps you because really if you are taking help from them they have some rights as to what you can do with it.

  82. Eugene Jones

    Kim don't argue w/idiots. People who complain the loudest are the worst in being honest themselves.