Peter Parker’s Death Sends Spider-Man Fans Into A Frenzy
Peter Parker’s death in Amazing Spider-Man #700 has created a bit of controversy in the comic book world. Writer Dan Slott has even received death threats for the story line of the final issue.
ABC reports that Slott has been crafting the adventures of the Amazing Spider-Man for the majority of the last 100 issues. The finale, which was released today, opens up a new chapter for the superhero but it also closes the door on Peter Parker.
Slott writes:
“This is an epic turn. I’ve been writing Spider-Man for 70-plus issues. Every now and then, you have to shake it up. … The reason Spider-Man is one of the longest running characters is they always find a way to keep it fresh. Something to shake up the mix.”
Peter Parker’s death has resulted in panic for comic book fans but Big Shiny Robot notes that killing off a super hero is nothing new in comic books. Dick Grayson temporarily took over as Batman for Bruce Wayne and Bucky took over as Captain America for Steve Rodgers. But Peter Parker won’t have a friendly face filling in for him. Instead, Slott crafted a story line that will turn Doctor Octopus into Spider-Man.
“Gone are his days of villainy, but since it’s Doc Ock and he has that ego, he’s not going to try and just be Spider-man, he’s going to try to be the best Spider-Man ever.”
In the final issue of Amazing Spider-Man, Peter Parker and Doctor Octopus undergo a mind-swap thanks to the work of an a Octobot. Parker gets trapped inside of Doc Oc’s decaying body but the super-hero isn’t completely defeated. His good nature and heroic memories start to flood Doc Oc’s brain as Parker tells him with his dying breath that “With great power, comes great responsibility.”
This, of course, will lead into the new series. Superior Spider-Man #1 will go on sale January 9.
Editor Stephen Wacker said that Peter Parker’s death may change the face of Spider-Man but Parker will still be an influential role in the new series.
Wacker said:
“(Parker’s) life is still important to the book because it affects everything that Doctor Octopus does as Spider-Man … Because Doctor Octopus knows all of (Parker’s memories and) will make decisions on what he saw Peter going through. In a way, he gets the ultimate victory as he becomes a better hero.”
Do you think Peter Parker’s death will be good for the series?











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Dec 26, 2012
If my father was alive he would scream. He was a huge Spider Man fan. I still can't believe their killing him.
Dec 26, 2012
This sounds as bad as the clone story line with Ben Reilly about 15 to 20 years ado. I stopped reading the comic on a regular basis after that debacle.
Dec 26, 2012
Of all people, DOC OC became Spider-Man? There better be a huge plot twist later where he realizes it isn't the life for him or something, and brings Peter back. This is bullshit. You should never kill off a hero in the original series.
Dec 26, 2012
This is asinine! I have Spiderman issues #2-17 & 18-36, plus the first three annuals! Killing him off is sacrilidge!
Dec 26, 2012
peter parker has "died" before… he'll return. spider-man and peter parker are linked eternally…. ask madam webb. otherwise, sales will drop dramatically, and Dan Slott will be out of a job and the most hated person in the comic book world.
Dec 26, 2012
They can't do that! Peter Parker IS Spiderman, and always will be!
Dec 26, 2012
They can't do that! Peter Parker IS Spiderman, and always will be!
Dec 26, 2012
I wont be the same! don't kill Spider Man!
Dec 26, 2012
Spiderman is not suppose to die hes suppose to live and fight crime and save peoples lives!
Dec 26, 2012
How long does a Spider Live? Peter Parker should've died out a long time ago. He is so old. Father Time cathes up with everybody. Peter Parker should've had a son or daughter by now to pass on his aquired spidy gene to. It gives Fiction a little more credibilty toward toward the actual Non Fiction aspect of a Super Hero.
Dec 26, 2012
As this country changes, so do our icons. As America dies, so must it's hero's.
Dec 26, 2012
This is a big mistake. If they are going to kill Peter off, Doc Ock should not be the one to become the new Spiderman. It should be Peter's descendent/son/heir.
Dec 26, 2012
Wow, this is news? LOL. Who cares? It is a comic book. There are real life problems and people are getting all bent out of shape over a "make believe" cartoon character getting killed off? Jeez, get a life people.
Dec 26, 2012
That's idiotic. Simple as that.
Dec 26, 2012
This is lame, and he's been killed before. Craven the Hunter "killed him" many years ago.
Dec 26, 2012
Super hero killers are the antichrist all they want to see is death and destruction are their going to be any super heros left that to good for the world guess we will see!
Dec 26, 2012
Meh. This stuff always happens in comics. Remember the death of Superman?
Dec 26, 2012
I think we've all had more than enough death of good guys, lately, don't you?
Dec 26, 2012
You don't have any hobbies or interests? You're the first person I've ever met who didn't. Did you want a cookie?
Dec 26, 2012
Don't worry. Marvel will eventually have a Marvel universe re-boot and this will all be erased. OOPS never really happened. Someone changed the timeline. Some massive event, and then, Peter Parker will be back. It always happens that way.
Dec 26, 2012
like dan slott but this was a dumb idea..but not for othing no one really dies in comcs, they go on vacations. when the readers decde to drop the book he'll be back.
Dec 26, 2012
O thought Parler was good for then Spiderman while Spidy was good for Peter. It was DOC OCK and Kingpin's combination that killed Gwen Statcy. I hate them both.
Dec 26, 2012
Peter Parker made Spider-Man fantastic. Killing him is killing the brand. No one will be able to match the comedic genius, wit, and ability that Parker brought to the hero. Thanks Marvel for killing yet another great brand.
Dec 26, 2012
I can't believe you can't tell the difference between they're and their.
Dec 26, 2012
liked dan slott run on this book but this was a really dumb idea..but not for nothing no one really dies in comcs do they?, they kind of go on vacations…remember superman, captain america? when the old school readers who have the almost 5 bucks it costs to keep buyng this book decide to drop it, no doubt he'll be back.
Dec 26, 2012
I cannot believe that now we are giving equal coverage to the deaths of imaginary characters that we give to the deaths of real people. This merited a Yahoo headline? Our society is sick.
Dec 26, 2012
Spider man died and came back with new powers that were never explored because of "Brand New Day" Now that the Brand new day ended they are killing him off again.
Dec 26, 2012
this was done to move units..nothing more.
Dec 26, 2012
this was done to move units..nothing more.
Dec 26, 2012
Yes, it is news. Because to some people growing up, Peter Parker/Spider-Man was one of the only friends or male role models that some kids had. Because some people grew up with dead beat, alcoholic abusive fathers or mothers, or brothers or sisters, or outcasts with no friends or artists with no creative outlets, and it was always just easier to escape into this world than deal with that one where some of us didn't belong. Peter Parker/Spider-Man has had an ENORMOUS impact on countless peoples' childhoods and lives. Moreso than a lot of 'real life' heroes did anything for some people. Show some respect to those of us who have fond memories and aren't happy about their childhood getting flipped upside down just to "freshen up" a story that's been going strong for 700 issues. If you don't get it, that's fine, you don't get it. But don't insult those of us that value these "make believe" characters just because it holds worth to our lives in some respect. For some of us, a VERY high worth.
Dec 26, 2012
Yes, it is news. Because to some people growing up, Peter Parker/Spider-Man was one of the only friends or male role models that some kids had. Because some people grew up with dead beat, alcoholic abusive fathers or mothers, or brothers or sisters, or outcasts with no friends or artists with no creative outlets, and it was always just easier to escape into this world than deal with that one where some of us didn't belong. Peter Parker/Spider-Man has had an ENORMOUS impact on countless peoples' childhoods and lives. Moreso than a lot of 'real life' heroes did anything for some people. Show some respect to those of us who have fond memories and aren't happy about their childhood getting flipped upside down just to "freshen up" a story that's been going strong for 700 issues. If you don't get it, that's fine, you don't get it. But don't insult those of us that value these "make believe" characters just because it holds worth to our lives in some respect. For some of us, a VERY high worth.
Dec 26, 2012
LOL!
Dec 26, 2012
This is the best thing Marvel could come up with? TERRIBLE!
Dec 26, 2012
"Wow, this is news? LOL. Who cares? It is a comic book. There are real life problems and people are getting all bent out of shape over a "make believe" cartoon character getting killed off? Jeez, get a life people."
…says the idiot wasting her time on facebook.
Dec 26, 2012
ikr… @sally where are you from?
Dec 26, 2012
How the HELL did this become news! WHO CARES! Get over it and move on with life, its a COMIC book, not a family member or friend. GOD, people act like the world ended.
Dec 26, 2012
jUMPING THE SHARK OR JUMPING THE OCTOPUS? THIS IS MORE LIKE JUMPING THE KRAKKEN.
Dec 26, 2012
This is kind of ridiculous since the comic book is based on Peter Parker. I don't read the comics, but, damn, that's a little excessive. Just make a new comic book I suggest
Dec 26, 2012
This is kind of ridiculous since the comic book is based on Peter Parker. I don't read the comics, but, damn, that's a little excessive. Just make a new comic book I suggest
Dec 26, 2012
Super heros shape our world they may just be a character in a book or on screen but kids look up to them when they do good and if they die its like telling people to give up and screw the world I hope they bring spidy back!
Dec 26, 2012
You'd think comic book fans have never heard of the concept of "retcon". This isn't the end of Peter Parker, not by a long shot.
Dec 26, 2012
You'd think comic book fans have never heard of the concept of "retcon". This isn't the end of Peter Parker, not by a long shot.
Dec 26, 2012
Peter Parker and Mary Jane does have a daughter named May (Spider-girl). Maybe the torch should have been passed to her. http://marvel.com/characters/bio/1009609/spider-girl_may_parker
Dec 26, 2012
Herminone, I'm still alive and rolling over in my grave and screaming… born in 1953 I was there for the birth of Spidey… and he was ever after my very favorite.
Dec 26, 2012
perfect solution, fire the current editor, than make comic number 701 and have Peter wake up from a nightmare that was every comic since stan lee left!
Dec 26, 2012
I think the problem is that Parker's kinda been abused over the last few years on the comics side of things. First you had the editorially-mandated One More Day, which stripped years of character development and the marriage of Peter and MJ just so they could have Peter living a crappy life and fail at dating over and over again, and now they have Ock taking over Peter's body and life in a very literal sense. I'm sure the Superior Spider-Man series will get people talking, and yeah, they'll have Peter back in the driver's seat by the time the next Spider-Man flick comes out, but as a Comic Book Fan I just get sick of the concept of having to constantly rewind back the clock and use "shock" changes to sell books. DC actually was doing thing right by letting older characters grow into elder statesmen while elevating the newer heroes, well, until the New 52. I dunno, I just feel that you can introduce gradual, naturally occurring changes without having to resort to gimmicks. Thinking about it, this is probably why I've gotten more into indie comics lately.
Dec 26, 2012
Still better than Brand New Day. At least no one made a deal with Mephisto here.
Dec 26, 2012
I'm glad they're killing Spider Man. He was nothing more than a clown. We need real heroes like The Sentry to take over Carvel. Yeah, I call it Carvel cause its as exciting as vanilla. What's my name?
Dec 26, 2012
Troll?
Dec 26, 2012
So basically Spiderman has died in all three of his comic books series this year. Yeah…that's a good way to keep your fans…kill the reason they read it….
Dec 26, 2012
get. the.fuck. out.
im done with marvel, I could barely stand flash as venom already and now this!
shouldve made it like the clone saga, now THAT amazing. Superior? No. it ain't spider man without Amazing or Spectacular in it. bye bye
Dec 26, 2012
First they kill off Ultimate Peter Parker and replace him with a PC Hispanic/Black boy because "we need more diversity in our comics" BS.
Then we get a craptastically bad Avengers vs Xmen that was written horribly and basically punked out the Mutants for a few Avenger $$$.
And now they decide to kill the real world Peter for some kind of stupid morality story where Doc OC gets to be the good guy because of Peters memories?
Whatever is in the water cooler at Marvel I wish they would quit drinking it because they have basically been ruining the entire franchise for the last year.
On a side note Slott should stick to content he knows more about like his Looney Toons comics and leave the Super Hero stories to people better suited to write them.
Dec 26, 2012
Remember how the old formula of Coke supposedly disappeared for good in the 80's, replaced by "New"Coke? Remember how, due to horrible sales of "New" Coke, "Classic" Coke appeared on the market? "New" Coke doesn't even exist while "Classic" Coke is now the standard brand. The same thing is being done with Spider-Man. It's a very cynical ploy that will hopefully backfire on Marvel. When the sales of the comic tank and Marvel is forced to bring back Peter Parker, I hope it will inspire them to dream up better stories instead of using gimmicks like the clone storyline, the erasure of Peter and Mary Jane's marriage, and other stupid plot that substitute nonsense for good writing. Stan Lee didn't have to resort to idiotic stories like this and Marvel should get writers who can produce good stories without these cynical marketing ploys.
Dec 26, 2012
This is terrible! Peter Parker is Spider-Man! No one can replace him! I bet all my money, that before the second movie comes out… Peter Parker will be Spider-Man again due to poor sales…
Dec 26, 2012
BULLSHIT….sounds stupid…
Dec 27, 2012
Maybe they will bring him back in 5 issues the way DC did Super Man over 10 years ago.
Dec 27, 2012
I am not surprised with the death threats. 20 years ago I would have been so pissed at this that I…..who am I kidding? Don't cross the street in front of me Don Slott. My brakes are wearing out.
Dec 27, 2012
That sounds wack! That's just stupid even for a comic book.
Dec 27, 2012
Still trying to forget that one Tomas.
Dec 27, 2012
How the fuck you kill off the greatest character in the history of modern comic books, is Marvel Comics on crack for killing off Peter Parker again! FIRE JOE QUESADA AND DAN SLOTT!
Dec 27, 2012
orlcmsht? Really, "kill the real world Peter" Parker? So does that mean the X-Men live there too. It,s a stupid comic, nothing about it is real. Hell, they could dress Bruce Wayne up as spiderman, if they thought it would sell more comics.
Dec 27, 2012
I stopped reading Spider-Man when they told me my readership and loyalty meant nothing to them back in the 90's with that Ben Reilly piece-of-crap story line. Then I heard about the further abomination that was the One More Day story line. Marvel long ago lost my money for their "product". I won;t even line my birds cage with their stuff.
Dec 27, 2012
I stopped reading Spider-Man when they told me my readership and loyalty meant nothing to them back in the 90's with that Ben Reilly piece-of-crap story line. Then I heard about the further abomination that was the One More Day story line. Marvel long ago lost my money for their "product". I won;t even line my birds cage with their stuff.
Dec 27, 2012
I think if they killed him off in the movies, I'd be really disappointed, but why the hell not. maybe we need someone new to take over. having spiderman that is black or hispanic or something might put a spin on things. Every one dies and maybe it is time for Peter Parker to die and let someone else step in his role for the fight for justice. I always thought Batman/The Dark Knight should have been an african american. Trust me guys I am right there with you on his death. In any movies or series they manage to kill off our favorite character. I remember when the finally killed Captain Kirk. Remember they guy responsible for Peter Parker's death is not going to live forever and maybe then the next guy will "pen" him back in.
Dec 27, 2012
Ohhhh the reality of that stung.
Dec 27, 2012
When I was in junior high school, we all freaked out, ran to the comic store, and bought as many issues of Superman as we could because we thought The Death of Superman was the end of Superman and Clark Kent. Employees at DC and many a comic book nerd kept trying to throw the fact that Bruce Wayne wasn't Batman anymore in the faces of movie goers loving The Dark Knight. When Steve Rogers as Captain America died, it was supposedly the end of an era. Well, Clark Kent is Superman, Bruce Wayne is Batman, and Steve Rogers is Captain America again. Marvel already killed and replaced Peter Parker once in the Ultimate Universe…and he came back. Honestly, after the Ultimate Spider-Man storyline of Parker dying and being replaced, this Amazing Spider-Man #700 story is actually pretty unoriginal. I don't see the cause for any panic. Especially with the new Amazing Spider-Man movie reboot. There's Spider-Man and Peter Parker as an icon of historical American pop culture carved into the minds of generations of people. And then there's the story in the current issue on the shelves. The former can't be easily changed, if at all. The later fluctuates regularly all the time.
Dec 27, 2012
Verruckter Schakal LOL Damn
Dec 27, 2012
Ya I doubt peter will stay dead forever. I think people just want to try new ideas out but I do think keeping the same body with a different mind situation is kinda off. And I also agree that racial diversity in comics and film and video games is getting way outa hand. But the beauty of comics is characters don't need to stay dead forever.
Dec 27, 2012
You cared enough to readi it, lol
Dec 27, 2012
You cared enough to read it:)
Dec 27, 2012
Verruckter Schakal Lighten up, its a reply. People can't reply anymore since THERE are many people who like to patronize other individuals.
Dec 27, 2012
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo you guys need to bring Peter Parker back somehow someway…
Dec 27, 2012
DIE Spiderman DIE!
Dec 27, 2012
Shame.
Dec 27, 2012
Dumbest story idea in the history of comics. I have collected Spider-man for 32 yrs but I am finished. Unbelievable!
Dec 27, 2012
A dead spider is a good spider…Spiderman, just like Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Mr. America, all of them, have fille heads with hero worship tooo long…when are we going to get a grip on life? there is one superhero…and this nation doesn't want him…God is my hero…and he is still alive!
Dec 27, 2012
's why I gave up on Marvel and DC years ago.
Dec 27, 2012
I can't believe how OCD you are!
Dec 27, 2012
Killing Peter Parker is fine but making Doc Oct spiderman is ridiculous?
Dec 27, 2012
^^^Professional asshole…. ^^^ right there
Dec 27, 2012
Number 1 reason why the Spider Man comic books lasted all this time, and that's because of Peter Parker. I will boycott the new Spider Man series until the people at Marvel bring back Peter Parker.
Dec 27, 2012
This is absolute garbage. Mickey Mouse needs to start whooping some ass and reign this shit in.
Dec 27, 2012
Is everyone here a moron? It's a comic, made to entertain and serve up super hero soap-opera. I've read comics all 38 years of my life. This is just another crazy story arc for the love of comics. How many of you actually read the book? I have , for years. I have faith in Slott. Besides, Peter Parker is still Spider-Man, even if only in body and thoughts….
Dec 27, 2012
This is probably the dumbest idea I've ever heard. Replacing with him with Doc Oc is just plain stupid. Where's Stan Lee when you need him.
Dec 27, 2012
Cry me a river. Next subject please….
Dec 27, 2012
get a freakin life people….. it's a damn comic book…..unreal.
Dec 27, 2012
I grew up in a small town in Mississippi…my mom's best friends son introduced me to Spider-Man comics when I was around nine years old. I have loved them ever since! I introduced my five children, nieces, nephews, and grandchildren to them as well. Spiderman/Peter Parker is a treasure to every generation. I'm truly appalled that they would even consider killing Peter Parker off permanently! HE IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE SPIDER-MAN! By killing off Peter Parker you will not only ruin this epic adventure for future generations, but will lose me and many other longtime loyal friends of the comic series. How could the" powers that be" allow this to happen to one of the greatest super heroes of all time? Shame on you!
Dec 27, 2012
its definatly a step in a new direction but its still a very stupid idea to kill spider-man in such a stupid pussy way… really he swaps bodies with Doctor Octopus then dies that's just stupid and an absurd way to end the story of such a long running and iconic hero. seriously they need to fire him and find someone with a greater imagination.
Dec 27, 2012
I have read Spider-man for 25 or more years since I was a kid. It was I learned to read on and what my daughter learned to read on. Sadly I may stop reading for the first time in a long time.
Dec 27, 2012
lol, Peter gets killed (half killed) the only way a true superhero could ever be killed via mind swap.
Dec 27, 2012
Wow what a bunch of faggots. Tell them to shut the fuck up and get over it.
Dec 27, 2012
HELL TO THE NO!
Dec 27, 2012
"One More Day" in hell for Peter Parker & the millions of comic book fans! We just can't cut a break!
Dec 27, 2012
"One More Day" in hell for Peter Parker & the millions of comic book fans! We just can't cut a break!
Dec 27, 2012
I agree with Slott to a point. It is comic-books and in comics you have to shake things up every now and then, but this is a completely unnecessary overhaul. I could've seen this as a storyline but a permanent change and a title change on top of that is not necessary. Normally in comics the main characters dies if the series is in trouble and sales are going down the toilet but that's not the case here. They did it with Superman to help sells and look at it now, people are still talking about the death and return of Superman. So maybe it's just a PR stunt and hopefully not a permanent thing. Besides this isn't the first time Peter Parker has died. He's died and returned a few issues later numerous times and even in Ultimate Spider-Man Peter is dead, but people don't count the Ultimate universe, but Marvel is trying to change with this Marvel Now! changes and had to find a way to fit Spider-Man in. Whole thing Marvel is trying to do is stay competitive with DC since they had success with the relaunching of their titles. This is Marvel's way of sticking it to them I guess lol! Me personally I've been a fan of Spidey since I was 14 and I've stuck with it through the whole cone storyline crap and I'm pretty sure I'll still stick with it through this. I hate to see Peter die like this and out of all people Doc Ock replaces him but I'll still stick with the book due to me being a fan of Spidey.
Dec 27, 2012
I think when you have to kill your cash cow, two things will ultimately happen. One, the franchise goes forward with a whole new direction (ex: Star Trek, Star Trek: The Next Generation, The entire S.T. movie franchise to J.J. Abram's Star Trek movie). The other, there will be no semblance to its originator what-so-ever (Ex: Nick Fury. From the comic-book gruff Sargeant Fury of the Howling Commandoes [the team you see backing Captain America in Germany in the recent C.A. The First Avenger film], to his command as Nick Fury Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D., "The Hoff" did a pretty decent and convincing interpretation of Fury in a made for t.v. movie on the character. Then, Samuel L. Jackson? 'Nuff said). In a sense, changes will happen. Sometimes, not in favor of what worked. But this is a series of change. Think back to over a century ago. Escapism, for the most part, involved reading pulps on the wild west and jungle adventures. Thus, the origin of the term "pulp fiction"–Google it. We didn't require pictures to enjoy a good story. We, at the time, had a fertile imagination. As we, slowly, converge into a BORG-like singular mindset, innovation may no longer be the key, because just as you thought of something…so have a few hundred-thousand individuals. Each legitimately thinking that it's a "good idea".
And that's what is happening now with this character, Peter Parker, the alter-ego has out grown the secret identity. Take the comic-book series "The Mask" it completely forwent the concept of alter-ego altogether by making the power be a hand-me-down from person to person. A similar concept already existed in the Marvel Universe in the persona of Captain Universe, where anyone (literally) can be the hero.
I, for one, believe that if you are to kill off a character. Do it. And move on. Or, say it was a pretty good run and end it on a question mark. Like Christopher Nolan's "Dark Knight Trilogy".
Just don't give us a bulls— ending…like Twin Peaks or Lost. The latter pissed me off. The former? I still don't understand the "midget" dream sequence. And if you don't know what I mean…you had to be there.
Dec 27, 2012
OH MY GOD…broken hearted
No No No, I hate this idea, what a stupid idiot writer. He probably wasn't even born in 1962. You don't fuck with Spiderman….what a horrible person, just to make a buck they decided to kill everyone's favorite superhero. That lame Spiderman doesn't exist in the universe of the Spiderman I know…..God I'm a nerd….I'm never going to get laid…..
Dec 27, 2012
Country is not changing it is dying right before our eyes. Nothing will stop it short of a revolution.
Dec 27, 2012
we don't want new we want the classic old Spiderman back…..I'm glad my dad and grandfathers are not around to hear this…fire him and find another creative writer lls the only option he have to make it fresh is killing off the character like really.
Dec 27, 2012
I have a complete Spiderman collection, I've been obsessed since I was a toddler, this is terrible. I read Spiderman every night so I can dream about being him. I just bought an entire set of Marvel Team Up 1 – 150….arggg…I am so mad, Stan Lee should go down there and kick some ass, Marvel sucks…do we really need adult themes like superheroes being killed and raped and murdered? Is this really a reflection of the times we live in? I don't read comics to feel bad! I get enough of that in the real world!
Dec 27, 2012
OMG!!!!! Everybody leave the grammar police is here lol
Dec 27, 2012
I will be 54 next week Thursday. I have been reading comics since 1966. The movie Spiderman III made it impossible for me to spend money on superhero movies at the box office. That's what my library card is for. So now we come to Peter is dead. Clearly Disney/marvel does not need my patronage. Methinks I will oblige. Fellow comic readers, I salute you in my passing. 'Nuff said!
Dec 27, 2012
There is no Spider-Man without Peter Parker…
Dec 27, 2012
I bet that most people complaining don't even read the comic books.
Dec 27, 2012
I guess Peter Parker is going over the "Fiscal Cliff".
Dec 27, 2012
My father and granddads are true collectors they have the very first issues of all dc and marvel comics …
Dec 27, 2012
The Germanphilosopher Hegel sure got it right when he said "History teaches that man learns nothing from history".
Since when has killing off a superheroes original alter ego EVER worked out? Talk about overthinking things. Could anybody else be Captain America but Steve Rogers? Could anybody be Superman but Clark Kent/Kal El? Could anybody else be Batman but Bruce Wayne?
Dec 27, 2012
NO! Just horrible!
Dec 27, 2012
My husband has been saying that for years. Our fore fathers would role over in their graves if they knew what was going on. It is awful that they are killing off spiderman and I don't even follow his character but my children do.
Dec 27, 2012
I haven't read any of the spiderman comics but this sounds so fucking stupid.
Dec 27, 2012
Or stop whinning. You know whatever.
Dec 27, 2012
Waaaaaaaaaa!
Dec 27, 2012
Or maybe people should stop being little babies about it.
Dec 27, 2012
Oh get over it.
Dec 27, 2012
I slowed down on comics a few years ago, except for Iron man. When I read this story, I was shocked, but like some of the other comments made, I believe the slow sales will force Marvel to bring Peter back, and make Doc Ock young again.
Dec 27, 2012
So much for selling spider-man 701, way to sink the comic!
Dec 27, 2012
And this is the reason why I don't read comics to much drama. Don't mean to make any one mad. Hey my reason not yours.
Dec 27, 2012
And this is the reason why I don't read comics to much drama. Don't mean to make any one mad. Hey my reason not yours.
Dec 27, 2012
I been a avid fan for years… and to have OCT be the hero is a Fucking Joke… I will try the first 10 SUPERIOR SPIDEYS then STOP…. its BS that they don't have peter as the hero! I got into comics fo Spiderman and peter…. not OCT. I rather read Ultimate Spiderman and that's saying A LOT!
Dec 27, 2012
They just killed off spider man comics for true spider man fans worldwide. I'm burning all my spiderman comic collection from issue 1 up to the newest.
Dec 27, 2012
Oooo a English teacher!
Dec 27, 2012
Not everyone has to agree with the killing like you. Comic book death is nothing but a revolving door (except for the case of Captain Mar-Vell); nevertheless, instead of telling people why they shouldn't "complain" about it, you instead may find it better to address what you do like about it and coerce them that way instead of subliminally implying that everyone is wrong for not agreeing with the series' & character's present direction.
I'm neutral. I don't read 616 Spiderman; killing him isn't fresh, imo; especially if they're just gonna have Doc Oct redeem himself while also battling his own mind while donning the suit and powers. Lack of creative being creative but at least they gave it a try. We will see how things develop next issue. Hopefully, it doesn't "fix" this issue, but actually makes it mean something beyond "Parker is dead and a villain is now a hero".
Dec 27, 2012
But that isn't Marvel 616 (the timeline in which Parker is now dead).
Dec 27, 2012
This isn't the 1st time he's died. Hell, they even tried to make a big deal over Xavier dying in AvX#11 when he had previously died about 6 times. Granted, this time bad writing and Cyclops (thanks to bad writing) killed him so it was supposed to mean something.
Dec 27, 2012
Maybe they can. When Batman "died", Nightwing (Dick Grayson aka my hero) took over the mantle and made the series better than it had been in a very long time. This may not be as bad as folks think; if you look passed the initial shock factor, there is hope that the writers actually have something good coming along (especially since this isn't a company wide crossover where writers spend time measuring dick sizes).
Dec 27, 2012
The black/hispanic Spiderman comic book was actually well-written and it was great since it wasn't the main continuity (which means it took nothing away from Peter Parker and his series). I agree that AvX was inconsistent and horribly written (they were obviously writing things as they came instead of webbing 1st). This isn't Peter's 1st death; the next comic will either turn this into gold or shit. As of now, it's neither.
Dec 27, 2012
All comics aren't for kids. Stan Lee hasn't worked on any of the comic series like X-Men and Spidey for over 2 decades (As far as writing). Spiderman died about a decade ago as well .This isn't the 1st arc in which he's been "killed" off and I don't believe it is permanent either. The initial feeling is supposed to garner interest, the succeeding book is supposed to deliver. We will see whether it does when it's available.
Also, when was the last time you purchased a 616 Spidey comic? If you haven't in years, then quite frankly you have no room for argument since you'd be in aware of his development over the last few years. In other media like film and TV, he will always be Parker so there should be no complaints if that is where you get your Spidey highs.
Dec 27, 2012
Matt Talsma are you a d!ck?
Dec 27, 2012
wow,u really are a d!ck.
Dec 27, 2012
Just because someone has a different opinion its whining? I'm not even that big of a fan and I still think its a terrible plot.
Dec 27, 2012
Matt Talsma are you a d!ck?
Dec 27, 2012
Wow worst idea ever!
1st ~ NO ONE ever dies in comics ~ see superman / batman / spiderman / aunt freaking may / etc.
2nd ~ Everyone knows he will be back.
3rd ~ It's been done soooooo many times before ( see 1st bullet point ).
Dec 27, 2012
Ok, when they killed Parker in the Ultimate universe continuity, they placated fans by telling them, basically, that it was fine because Peter was still alive in the main Marvel universe… and now they've killed main universe's Spider-Man, too. Huge mistake. Too many fans of Spider-Man are fans of Peter Parker, not Miles Morales (though I will admit he's adorable), and definitely not Doc Oc. As sure as Bruce Wayne will always be Batman, Peter Parker will ALWAYS be Spider-Man, and I predict they will have to bring him back in a month at most.
Dec 27, 2012
Do your children follow him in comics or other media like film and Tv and video games? If it is the latter(s) then no concerns; he'll always be Peter Parker in anything related to the Spiderman series in other media. Besides, there are still comic series where he's still Parker. This isn't the 1st time he's died, and people state your husband's statement in each generation. If the writing doesn't turn this move into gold, they will abandon it and retcon it.
Dec 27, 2012
Joji Greco they say that every generation.
Dec 27, 2012
Thank you, Alexis.
Dec 27, 2012
Why kill off 1 of the Greatest Superheroes of all time for the sake of the almighty dollar? Where is the respect to the creators who's stories are legendary. Marvel should of learned from when they did The Death Of Phoenix, Ironman, Captian America, and DC'S DEATH OF SUPERMAN. What this dummy should of done was bring back the What If Series in which they could of done The Death Of Peter Parker so that way they would not TARNISH the LEGACY of Spiderman and Peter Parker. You evolve the charater for the younger generation, that's what they (Marvel, DC) did during the 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's how can you kill off 50+ years of history? Spider, Bat, Super, Wonder Woman, Thor, FF, Avengers, X-Men you can't JUST KILL THEM OFF! Nor the legendary Villians they've fought i.e. Solomon Grundy these Heroes and Villians are apart of American Literature that we must be proud of, the stories that were written kept up with the times from the World Wars, Vietnam, Civil Rights, to The Worlds Trade Center Bombing and in the end there was always a positive out come. This was a very bad decision!
Dec 27, 2012
Who cares? It's a COMIC BOOK!
Dec 27, 2012
No one stays dead in the Marvel Universe. How many times have Jean Grey and Magneto died and came back to life?
Dec 27, 2012
Matt Talsma ..No, Matt here is a Loser Troll with no life who is just trying to look important but comes off looking like a weenie…
Dec 27, 2012
BOOOOOO! BOOOOOOO! this issue sucks! BOOOOO! Long Live Peter Parker!
Dec 27, 2012
So So true have anyone noticed there's starting too be more and more Europians on our television, from out commercials, to news programming !!!!
Dec 27, 2012
PRESIDENT OBAMA….PLEASE…DO SOMETHING.
Dec 27, 2012
I think this is great doc oc mind ind parker's body I really can't wait!
and I do think it is sad that peter is gone.
Dec 27, 2012
What about mary jane, black cat and other interest of peter, I mean some of us are hoping that mary jane and peter reconcile and make love but if the doc will not say that his really doc octopus since it will lead him in jail.then doctor octopus will be boinking with the ladies because we have to admit that peter is a babe magnet.
I cant even imagine doc octopus doing that even in peter's body and my god I think I am going to puke. Question if he have sex with mary jane while mary jane is thinking that he is peter is that consider rape?
Dec 27, 2012
Same story I've read word for word on multiple sites now. Don't reporters report anymore? All they do is print press releases.
Dec 27, 2012
again if they paired up doctor octopus with mary jane or with the other ladies of peter's life, I am going to punch the author.
Dec 27, 2012
This does not come as a surprise to me. Marvel is a business and they are looking for a way to counter DC's New 52. So they decided to reboot Spiderman, which is a logical choice after so many issues. But they needed something to draw people's attention to the new series, and all these articles are proof that it worked. Well played Marvel!
~ JR
http://www.novothule.com
Dec 27, 2012
DOC OC AS SPIDER-MAN?!??!! Well that's just about a bunch of bullshit.
Dec 27, 2012
Absolute shock jock trash. If you have a subscription you should consider cancelling, don't support this kind of sucker punch storytelling.
Dec 27, 2012
Correct, that May is part of the (now defunct) M2 Universe where Wolverine had a daughter with Elektra (Wild Thing) and there is the Fantasic Five (w/ no Valeria in sight)
Dec 27, 2012
Quit being an English teacher ppl make mistakes ass hole
Dec 27, 2012
Oh people still read comic books? Huh.
Dec 27, 2012
I can't stand for Peter Parker to die and have Doc Ock take over for him. It's the most depressing thing I have read.
Dec 27, 2012
I can't believe a troll hasn't been hunted down.
Dec 27, 2012
I find it utterly pathetic that no one can share an opinion on the internet anymore because asshole trolls always need to find one way or another to piss people off.
Dec 27, 2012
Or maybe people are entitled to their fucking opinions, douchebag.
Dec 27, 2012
It's all he does. He replies to people who hate the story and does nothing but call them babies or to get over it. Stupidest fucking troll I've ever seen on the internet. He's obviously a noob.
Dec 27, 2012
I wonder how many people actually get the nasty intent of this. Stan Lee chose the spider for Peter Parker's character on purpose. The reason why is that the spider traps and eats the butterfly. The butterfly has been a great symbol among Nazi scientists for years now. It also has shown up to symbolize communism as the red Monarch for some time. Whether you want to believe in that stuff is actually irrelevant. The general public has agreed that these symbols represent something even if the myth is false or non existent. Because these symbols mean something they are generally up for grabs for anyone to use when trying to convey a message. You take into concept that Stan Lee is Jewish and the fact that Peter Parker made the choice to be the "hero" even though he went against society and was many times hated for it and we have a valid reason for the spider symbol here. A lot of the mad scientists seen in the Spider Man series dipped into the very stuff that the Nazis did. Doc Oct was one that was more memorable. The Octopus can actually symbol things a long the lines of the Hydra (The Avengers) logo and catch phrase can. Because if you "cut off one arm there are that much more to take it's place". Again this is another insinuation to the Nazi's who I believe actually used a variation on that same phrase. So now let's review some things that have been going on in the Marvel world. Of Late. The company Disney, whose founding father Wald Disney was a notorious Nazi, buys out the Marvel world from Stan Lee. Then we see a huge change in Spider Man, which is arguably one of the most influential characters in the Marvel universe. Spider Man teaches us how sometimes society can conspire against us. How sometimes the right choice is not the one that you will be praised for. It also uses anti Nazi symbolism. This change that occurs is the original character who bears the sign of that anti Nazi symbolism dies and the character who most symbolizes the Nazi then takes his place. Go figure. People really need to wake up to the what is going on around them. It's really aweful and this kind of thing is all around us, in the media, the music we listen to, the movies we watch. There are some who would like to put a religious spin on it but I don't think it has anything to do with that. I think it has to do with the political agendas that are out there and how many companies wish to manipulate the general public. I wonder what kid of morals the kid who reads this new Spider Man is going to have when he/she grows up? With parents being forced to work harder and leave their kids alone for longer periods of time the parenting takes a nose dive into the nonexistent and makes the influence of the entertainment industries around us a real concern. Some kids will have nothing but Spider….oh excuse me, Doctor Octopus to learn from. Anybody who is not concerned with that is a damned fool!
Dec 27, 2012
I wonder how many people actually get the nasty intent of this. Stan Lee chose the spider for Peter Parker's character on purpose. The reason why is that the spider traps and eats the butterfly. The butterfly has been a great symbol among Nazi scientists for years now. It also has shown up to symbolize communism as the red Monarch for some time. Whether you want to believe in that stuff is actually irrelevant. The general public has agreed that these symbols represent something even if the myth is false or non existent. Because these symbols mean something they are generally up for grabs for anyone to use when trying to convey a message. You take into concept that Stan Lee is Jewish and the fact that Peter Parker made the choice to be the "hero" even though he went against society and was many times hated for it and we have a valid reason for the spider symbol here. A lot of the mad scientists seen in the Spider Man series dipped into the very stuff that the Nazis did. Doc Oct was one that was more memorable. The Octopus can actually symbol things a long the lines of the Hydra (The Avengers) logo and catch phrase can. Because if you "cut off one arm there are that much more to take it's place". Again this is another insinuation to the Nazi's who I believe actually used a variation on that same phrase. So now let's review some things that have been going on in the Marvel world. Of Late. The company Disney, whose founding father Wald Disney was a notorious Nazi, buys out the Marvel world from Stan Lee. Then we see a huge change in Spider Man, which is arguably one of the most influential characters in the Marvel universe. Spider Man teaches us how sometimes society can conspire against us. How sometimes the right choice is not the one that you will be praised for. It also uses anti Nazi symbolism. This change that occurs is the original character who bears the sign of that anti Nazi symbolism dies and the character who most symbolizes the Nazi then takes his place. Go figure. People really need to wake up to the what is going on around them. It's really aweful and this kind of thing is all around us, in the media, the music we listen to, the movies we watch. There are some who would like to put a religious spin on it but I don't think it has anything to do with that. I think it has to do with the political agendas that are out there and how many companies wish to manipulate the general public. I wonder what kid of morals the kid who reads this new Spider Man is going to have when he/she grows up? With parents being forced to work harder and leave their kids alone for longer periods of time the parenting takes a nose dive into the nonexistent and makes the influence of the entertainment industries around us a real concern. Some kids will have nothing but Spider….oh excuse me, Doctor Octopus to learn from. Anybody who is not concerned with that is a damned fool!
Dec 27, 2012
It's best just to skip this comic until Marvel decides to bring Peter back. I hate it too but it's not the first time screwed up events such as this has happened. It really is a lame stupid story. Probably worst than One More Day. We await your return, Parker.
Dec 27, 2012
It's best just to skip this comic until Marvel decides to bring Peter back. I hate it too but it's not the first time screwed up events such as this has happened. It really is a lame stupid story. Probably worst than One More Day. We await your return, Parker.
Dec 27, 2012
Matt is a lame! hes just commenting to get attention cus he cant even give any insight behind his reasoning so just ignore the troll
Dec 27, 2012
Unfortunately Marvel in particular have developed this idea of announcing and then doing something that they knew very well with have the fans in an uproar. It creates oodles of free publicity and results in a sharp spike in additional sales. Then, once the mission has been accomplished, they come out with some kind of twist that brings everything back to the way it was. Bottom line — just a publicity stunt… and it's obviously working!
Dec 27, 2012
Yay
Dec 27, 2012
this wont last…..heroe's get killed all the time…..and come back….word of advice, don't mess with a good thing…peter parker will be back….he IS spiderman….
Dec 27, 2012
Matt, stop being a troll. It makes you look sad and pathetic.
Dec 27, 2012
Wtf…..
Dec 27, 2012
I'll admit, it has been a while since I've read a Spider-Man comic, but isn't Doc Ock a fat old man? So Spider-Man is going to be a fat old man?
Dec 27, 2012
They should also collapse all those different universes back into one lol
Dec 27, 2012
I sort of like Cyclops going rebel. I think he was always over looked as an X-Man, despite being their leader. Him being pushed over the edge by Jean Grey dying, then the mutant genocide seems almost natural progression.
Plus….
Marvel needs decent bad guy teams to go against these days. Especially when they had Magneto as a good guy.
Dec 27, 2012
I sort of like Cyclops going rebel. I think he was always over looked as an X-Man, despite being their leader. Him being pushed over the edge by Jean Grey dying, then the mutant genocide seems almost natural progression.
Plus….
Marvel needs decent bad guy teams to go against these days. Especially when they had Magneto as a good guy.
Dec 27, 2012
I don't think killing Peter Parker is the worst idea but making Dr. Octopus the new Spider Man might be. I guess I won't know until I read it. It's stupid to get upset over it since they rarely ever permanently kill central characters, I think they do it whenever they get bored of writing the same old thing.
Dec 27, 2012
I don't think killing Peter Parker is the worst idea but making Dr. Octopus the new Spider Man might be. I guess I won't know until I read it. It's stupid to get upset over it since they rarely ever permanently kill central characters, I think they do it whenever they get bored of writing the same old thing.
Dec 27, 2012
I bet this will be as wildly popular as "New Coke."
What a ridiculous idea! But I do wish we could do a mind swap with some of our brain dead politicians who just won't fade away.
Dec 27, 2012
I want Marvel to die. That is all.
Dec 27, 2012
If they decide to kill SpiderMan off, they should do what they did with Batman, make a movie about it so everyone can go see it. That way when it comes out on DVD, people can collect the series of SpiderMan and keep it as a collection of the SpiderMan movies that have came out already. Like one person said "all heros at one time or another must die."
Dec 27, 2012
A dick with a hoodie!
Dec 27, 2012
I think it's a great idea, what they ought to to do is make a movie about it just like they did with Batman. I think they did a wonderful job with Batman. Then when it come's out in the movies people can go see it and when it does come out on DVD people can make a collection of the Spiderman series and keep it as a collection. Like one person said"all heros at one time or another must die."
Dec 27, 2012
lol look at Matt Talsma trolling this Comment Thread to add his/her (whatever it is, can't tell by the trollish pic) worthless 2 cents. Get a life guy/gal (?).
Dec 27, 2012
Jeez guys, it's just a comic book. Get over it.
Dec 27, 2012
"Shake it up" that' the key phrase here. They killed Peter off in the Ultimates line and now they are doing it here in the mainstream comic. I think that it just a way of a new beginning to a character that really doesn't need a new beginning. They have done many things in the past to Spider-Man but in the end it was always Peter in the costume in the end. Forget about the Clone story line. I won't read the new comic. I've cancelled my subscription in my comic store, too. I only wish that my subscription was through Marvel instead of my local comic shop, Comic Fusion. Marvel: you are dead to me now.
Dec 27, 2012
Sales must be down…. this is a real crap move.
Dec 27, 2012
shite.
Dec 27, 2012
I stopped reading comic books when DC took the original Green Lantern and faggified him.
Dec 27, 2012
I stopped reading comic books when DC took the original Green Lantern and faggified him.
Dec 27, 2012
stop, just stop.
spiderman is NOT batman. there's a reason spidey is an icon, one of the most beloved heroes – if not the most beloved – in the world.
its because hes funny and light hearted and self deprecating and witty – and now hes….doc ock?
dan slott, please find another job, "shaking things up" does not mean "making things lame"…
Dec 27, 2012
stop, just stop.
spiderman is NOT batman. there's a reason spidey is an icon, one of the most beloved heroes – if not the most beloved – in the world.
its because hes funny and light hearted and self deprecating and witty – and now hes….doc ock?
dan slott, please find another job, "shaking things up" does not mean "making things lame"…
Dec 27, 2012
are the sells really that bad at marvel, next thing we're going to hear is marvel doing a new 52……..
Dec 27, 2012
Killing off Peter Parker is killing off Spider-Man it's like cutting off a voicepiece who's telling the story, Peter Parker is telling his accounts as Spider-Man this is the worst of comic book ret cons.
Dec 27, 2012
You want Marvel to suffer file a petition to revive Peter Parker as the one and only Amazing SpiderMan.
Dec 28, 2012
I just…. I can't do it anymore… lol
Dec 29, 2012
PP's death honestly left me cold. I could deal with it if people knew on his dying breath that Peter was Spidey and we had a similar scenario to when he died in Ultimates – but this just feels so wrong. Noone, not even his Aunt May or MJ will even know he's gone. His whole life given up as a hero and for what? What was the point? It doesn't endear me seeing Doc Ock's atonement – it just alienates me from the brand and makes me despise a villain who I'd come to pity – that is now being passed off as a hero. After this, make mine not Marvel!
Dec 30, 2012
Or could anybody be John Stone except John Stone? Some scholars argue Fred Riddle coulda.
Dec 30, 2012
wtf for that.