Public Spanking And Physical Discipline Not Too Uncommon, Researchers Find

Spanking taught me not to do the same thing again. Adults are just disciplined in a way that hurts their pocketbooks not their ass. G
et a traffic ticket and you will see.

Spanking works

I was spanked and I learned to respect my parents. I see nothing wrong with it. Kids now days have no idea what respect is.

My sister's and I were spanked when we DESERVED it. Being disrespectful, rude, or even uncontrollable. Spankings- NOT BEATINGS- teach children boundaries. My parents never pinched, hair-pulled, etc. We were SPANKED on our BOTTOMS no more than 5 times/spanking. Our spankings ended when we reached about 10 yrs old because by then we understood what consequences were and how the decisions we made effected our consequences. Spanking is a necessary phase of child rearing.

I agree, there needs to be a consequence to bad, unacceptable behavior. It will help perpare the child for adulthood. It is a parents duty to teach their children from right and wrong and that wrong doing will conclude in a negative experience, therefore the child not repeating the bad behavior.

LOVE DOES NOT HURT..SPANKING IS THE LAZY AND EASY WAY OUT…BE A REAL PARENT!

I have to agree with your post. That was how I was raised in my family and once I hit about eleven and twelve My mother switched from spankings to putting us on restriction. Me personally I was not allowed to read anything at all, my younger brother couldn't play any games, and my older brother couldn't go out or talk to his friends. The spankings laid the foundation and the restrictions laid the housework, and we only received spankings if we had truly acted up after that age. We knew not to act a fool in public with her. When I see the children nowadays all I can do is shake my head in sadness.

Spanking needs to make a comeback in a BIG way!

spare the rod, spoil the child

spare the rod, spoil the child

spare the rod, spoil the child

you can say that again!

agree, 100%

I should have permenant markings from the belt!!

I learned to respect my parents, my grandmothers and all of my elders! My parents spanked my sisters and I when we deserved it and none of felt that we were abused. My own children have also got a pop on the behind when they were out of control. Sometimes is the only way to snap them back to reality. I don't believe that spanking is the only form of discipline, and that children need to learn at an early age that there are consequences for their actions. Nobody is held accountable for their actions now. Lastly I think that rewarding children for every little thing is just raising a bunch of selfish people who think that everything is going to be handed to them in life!

so what are you going to do? sit them in the corner? take away their toys? they will learn pretty quickly that they can run away from you, and that you cant hide everything from them. what then? are you just going to throw your hands in the air and give up?! spanking-NOT BEATING- teaches dicipline and repect. with so many people fighting it nowadays, no wonder kids/teens are becoming more disrespectful, lazy, and frankly, not a very good role model for future generations. i am a teen. i go to school with other teens. i see how they act when the adults arent there. and from what ive seen and heard, the kids who were sleeping around, doing drugs, drinking, etc. had parents that never gave any strict, firm, REAL dicipline. they just gave them timeouts, or told their kids no. and now those teens couldnt care what their parents said or did because they knew how to get away from their parents, and frankly disliked their parents, never listened to them, and….well, i could just go on and on. but seriously? could you just TRY to see it from my point of view?

The idea that spanking is violence is specious. There are some behaviors for which spanking is an appropriate response. To tell impressionable parents that they should try other, less effective (if effective at all) responses, is to handicap them. It's making entire generations of parent feel guilty for doing something they know has worked for centuries. Trying ineffective responses – to no effect, of course – results in a level of frustration that may lead to a spanking that is violence – an uncontrolled anger response. Spankings should be administered in a relatively dispassionate way, to modify behavior rather than to release anger. However, as in favor of spanking as I am, I would not do it in public. Public spanking humiliates a child, and that – the humiliation – is abuse. If the promise is made of a spanking, then the later spanking is not so much a delay of punishment as it is a fulfillment of the promise.

There is nothing wrong with spanking a child it teaches them respect and right from wrong. Beating a child is wrong not spanking. Those who think it wrong and choose time out have children who are disrespectful and have never been taught there are no consequences for their actions

Yes, I believe a child who is being disrespectful in public should get a couple of spanks. Sometimes a child can get out of hand and down right embarressing in front of others. As long as the parent doesn't get out of hand spanking the child (two spanks, maybe three on the buttocks) he/she is showing authority. My parents spanked us if we got out of hand in public, and I am a respectable person for it. I thank them for giving discipline when I needed it. I too spanked my children if they were disrespectful in front of other adults, and today alot of people compliment me on how they are very polite and well behaved children.

I was spanked as a kid, and hated it. My father even admitted when I was older that he wished he had never raised his hand to my brother or I. So, I have raised to girls without spanking ever. However, after teaching in the public schools in inner cities, I am in favor of corporal punishment administered by principals and parents.

I was spanked as a kid, and hated it. My father even admitted when I was older that he wished he had never raised his hand to my brother or I. So, I have raised to girls without spanking ever. However, after teaching in the public schools in inner cities, I am in favor of corporal punishment administered by principals and parents.

Then what form of discipline do you use? Please share your wisdom with all these lazy and "fake" parents.

Amen to this. I was a post secondary instructor for 11 years. I ran a program in Marine Engine technology so my students were from 17 at the youngest to 90 at the oldest I could tell you after the first day which ones of my students were spanked and the ones that were not. We are not preparing our children for the real world when they don't realise that once high school is over there are no particapatiion trophys and if you show your boss the same disrespect that you show your loving(sarcasm) parents you will find it very hard to keep a job. That being said there is a HUGE difference between a spanking and a beating. I have raised 5 children, as a result on occasion I really wanted to administer a beating I did not and that is the difference between a good parent and a bad one, in my opinion.

actually love Does hurt. Nothing is perfect all the time, even love. Sometimes we have to do things "in love" that are undesirable in order TO love someone. If I take away TV time or free time, they are going to be just as hurt and unhappy as if I had spanked them.

Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family did a talk on the topic of spanking years ago that I got on cassette. He said you don't spank a child for childish irresponsibility, like horsing around at the table and spilling their milk, or not wanting to eat their vegetables, forgetting to put away toys. But, when a child challenges their parents' authority, the parent can't let them get away with that. If a child is willfully defiant, disrespectful or outright refuses to do as they're told, they need to be spanked (not beaten). And he says with a paddle, hands are for loving touches. You don't want to a actually harm them, but you do want their little bottoms to hurt, you want to make an impression, get their attention. He states, correctly so, that if parents let their young children win those battles of the will, there will be no peace in that household as time goes on. And the child grows up with contempt for their parents. I hear parents say they "pick their battles," as you see the kid walking around sullen, refusing to do household chores, and being just plain belligerent. One of the posters here stated that spanking was lazy parenting. Bull#*#*! Yes, I've known some backward types who slapped or spanked their poor kids for everything, that's stupid parenting. But spanking, used wisely, can be very effective. I'm a grandmother who has seen a lot of children grow up and are now adults, some middle aged adults. It's very obvious the ones who were never firmly disciplined. They are self centered, often can't hold jobs, nothing is ever their fault, they never grew up. Normal people know the difference between discipline meant to correct and teach, and actual abuse. I get so sick of the so called experts who puff up like indignant toads at the mention of corporal punishment. And if you see a parent in the grocery store aisle scolding or spanking their tantrum throwing or screaming child, leave them the hell alone, it's not abuse and it's not your business.

I absolutely believe in spanking, but absolutely NOT by anyone other than the parent. I can't even imagine the rage I would feel if a principal ever laid a hand on my son. It's a very solemn responsibility and you never know what kind of people are out there…all the abuse that goes on…I would never trust anyone but his mom or myself to spank my child.

I agree with spanking. That's how I was raised and how I raised my children. They are good respectful adults and productive members of society. On that note, I resently began college and some of the young people I encounter make me want to arm myself with guns and riot gear. All these folks who talk about how horrible we are need to realize one thing, my generation didn't shoot up schools, theaters, or blow up buildings because we were tought discipline at an early age. I never beat my kids nor spanked in anger. When they were old enough grounding was more effective. I am curious about the article's arm pulling and pinching allegations though. I pulled my child's arm to stop them from running in front of a car…am I a monster?

Victoria Stafford ..LOL my mom scared me to death! I acted up in church an she leaned across three pews to bop me on the head with her hair brush! what was just as funny was how every one around nodded at her and the preacher said "AMEN"!!

AGREE!!!

No child in his or her right mind wants to be spanked. I never wanted to be spanked as a child, but I was, very hard. I was humiliated, but it worked. What it does do is tell the child, whatever he did, to "don't do it again!" Period. My last spanking was when I was seven, not because my parents softened up, but I learned to watch out. No, I do not believe it causes mental disorders. If the child has it, he had it already, spankings or not. Today, I have seen kids, even college kids, who are total brats because their parents spoiled them. They seem to demand people what they want and expect them to comply. Sorry, but society is not like that. If you don't learn early on, you will learn it later in life, but much harder than you can imagine. Eventually, society will throw it back at you, and you will experience humiliation like you've never felt it. The saying "Spare the rod and spoil the child" is very true, and it does a disservice to the child. On an upbeat note, I'll finish with, "Train your child up in the way he should go, and when he is old, he will not depart from it."

I agree! My mother always said wait until we get home and no matter how long that was, She delivered immediately with no discussion. She was consistant and never waivered and at 52 I still respect her and will not sass her.

Barrack Obama needs a good ass whoopin!

Pain is natures way of teaching us about danger. Spanking is a way to get into this biological daanger response and make a child stop doing something RIGHT NOW. Don't believe me, try reaching into a fire for the second time. Now does this mean I want my child to learn for themselves that the glowing red heating element is hot on their own? No. A smack on the hand, though uncomfortable, teaches them that their unfulfilled action has a consequence. Take away a kids TV, or cell phone or whatever is an inconvenience and is best used at a later age when they can learn through such means.

Let me tell you a story about something I witnessed first hand. I little boy (about 5) was turning into a total terror. My children were outside playing (10 and 8) and this little kid would walk up to my children and their friends and just hit them or pull their hair. I did the responsible thing and went to go talk to the child's parents. The father came to the door, I told him what was happening and he got angry and called his son to come apologize. This dad called, ordered, yelled, walked over and drug the kid over….the entire time the kid is yelling NO! NO! NO! refusing to do what the father told him to. It was really a quite embarrassing situation watching this 5 year old brat run his house. 5 MINUTES this dad tries to get his son to apologize using words, threats of taking stuff away..nothing worked. Until all of a sudden he snatched the kid up, turned him over his knee and delivered 3 quick pops to his rear. Immediately he got up and walked over and teary eyed and sniffling, he apologized. Since that day, he does not hit my children and he does not pull their hair, because he learned a very simple lesson…I hit them and my butt hurts. I use differing styles of discipline for differing occasions. I talk to my kids when it is a behavior issue "why are you ignoring your brother when he is talking to you?", I take something away when they abuse a privilege "no xbox because you didn't do your homework when you got home", and they get spanked if they are in danger or are a danger to others "you hit little timmy" or "you ran into the street without looking". If I see a parent BEAT their child, I will be the first person to step in to stop it, but seeing a parent deliver a proper, calm spanking…I'll be the first in line to shake their hand. Because they are living up to their social responsibility of raising a decent human being.

Exactly! I'm curious to receive an answer to your question from them also.

Most people will never hit their pets with anything but a newspaper, but think it's OK to hit their children. I notice that all people who were spanked remember the spankings.That's because spankings are scary and scar you (mentally) for life. There are MANY other ways to discipline children and most educated people choose alternatives.

I didn't like being spanked either but I learned cause and effect from it. I do not believe in beating or putting hands on a child, or anyone for that matter, in anger. My children were spanked and then loved and talked to. They are great people and I believe it worked.

There is a time to discipline with force and a time to discipline with words and consequences. I believe you use force when the lack of action will coughs more damage and injuries to the child or environment or when the child is not responding to other means of discipline actions. Sometimes an attention grabber is needed to focus the child’s attention on the issue.

Oh, I forgot, you mentioned spanking a child in public? I've seen parents do that and I've thought to myself, "that's one kid who's not going to grow up spoiled." Case closed!

If we acted a fool in public, we didn't get spanked in public…my mom would promptly grab us by the upper arm and whisper in our ears…"Wait til we get home"….that's all we needed to hear and she always followed thru too…Consistency is the key!

Spanking teaches the child to respect and obey their parents. The reason why so many kids are running wild is because this new generation want to tell a child to go sit in the corner. Um – that does not work for most kids.

When you punish a child by spanking, yelling, hitting, etc.. you take responsibility for their actions, and show them how you can inflict pain to them! and spanking shows that it is ok to cause pain to others; when the goal is for them to take responsibility for their own actions, when we discipline by using logical consequences, talking, and time out, we place the responsibility on the child, and we follow up by reacting appropriately, as parents our goal is to "Teach" and role model acceptable behavior.

spare the rod spoil the child and time out is NOT WORKING PEOPLE , when I was a kid in the 80's got spanked you never went to kmart and herd a child cuss out thier parents you do now everyday.. you never heard of school shotings. you never heard of some nut showing up in a theater shoting people up. but today in a world where a parent is scared to spank because dss wil show up on thier door step. it happens everyday now. I say bring back the rod and whoop dat butt if they do bad wash out that mouth with soap slap those hands if they steal somthing and you know what your children will respect you more they will not do the things kids are doing today and parent you need your heads kicked in for letting your kids act like that. what kinda person are you raising anyway.

Got my share of them!! LOL

I totally agree..

Totally agree that when spanking is done correctly and followed up with lots of love and talking about what happened it is very effective. Our kids learned very early and quickly that they didn't like getting spanked (usually just one swat on the butt) so learned to behave. If it was a mouth issue I would flick them on their cheek with a finger…that only took a couple times and then all I had to do was threaten them with a flick and they would behave. Unfortunately society has made it very hard to discipline in public for fear of being charged with child abuse and usually that's when kids will push you to the limit.

The Bible says spare the rod spoil the child. Many say spanking can lead to violence. You have to know when to quit. The one thing I learned in raising my children was to talk to them and let them know just why they are being spanked. If you set the rules at home usually they are not apt to embarrass you in public. I agree with Amanda Jollifee also. I do not know her. But she has some good points. We need to teach our children not just raise them up to be heathens. We live in a time where children and parents don't know what to do. If you plant a tree and use braces to help it grow up straight and tall it will usually grow to it's fullest. (Just an example)We are the parents and God put us here to teach our children to live a full and productive live with respect for others and personal things of others.

I can tell you that I have a child that will be ten om sunday and har dly ever spanked her. she is so disrespectful. We spank my two year old and she does not act anything like my first child did at her age.

Yes, communicate with them about what happend and why, That is so important! Good point, Heather! My mother did they exact same thing with the flick on the cheek if i had gotten disrespectful to her with words as well! I hated it!! haha!

I didn't like spankings either, but we weren't spanked, my sisters, brother and I were beaten. Back then we didn't have CPS to look out for us. My son was spanked whether it was at home or in public. He like to pitch fits in public and I took care of it. I did not leave my children with someone unless I was working and I picked them up right after work. My daughter on the other hand got her hand popped a couple of times or her leg a couple of times. Every child is different so the punishment has to be tailored to the child. It does need to be brought back to the schools, but the parent has to be there for the punishment. These children of today need to be gotten under control. They run rampant through the stores. Pitch fits when they don't get their way. Disrespectful to everyone around them. Of course the parents of these kids that I have run into act like they don't care. They are just as disrespectful and rude and look at you like, I dare you to say anything to my child. I am very pro spanking, not beatings.

you know heres the way i see it, my child is one of the best behaved 4 year olds around, she knows the meaning of no asks nicely for things and yes she gets spankings, WHEN SHE NEEDS ONE, if she is being mean to the dogs or the like, the punishment should fit the crime.

Todd Gallegos i agree if anyone other than my husban and i spanked my daughter i think i would freak

i have seen people that work in the stores cheer when parents spank there kids

I don't think you should spank them in public, but you should spank them. My brother and I were both spanked and we know how to be well mannered and behave in public. However, my cousins were raised where their father never spanked them, and they many times don't know right from wrong and sometimes just don't care about others.

I believe their is a huge difference between having a parent spank their child and having a a teacher with what amounts to a 2×4 wail away on a child while they are upset at that child! After what happened to me Noone was going to lay a finger on my daughter!

Ism glad i got spanked no telling were i would be today and i have respect for othets thank God fory spankings

I agree with you Kellie. If a woman is in a relationship and a man hits her he's considered an abuser and deserves jail time. When parents hit their kids, somehow that is admirable. Apparently it's OK to hit on humans that are waaay smaller and of lesser intelligence. A hundred years ago it was acceptable to hit women and women were of the belief they deserved it. So, it's not surprising you here from people that were hit as children say "I deserved it." Because they are brainwashed to believe they did. But those of us who are not brainwashed are standing up for little ones that cannot protect themselves and letting them know they never deserved to be hit!

I agree with you Kellie. If a woman is in a relationship and a man hits her he's considered an abuser and deserves jail time. When parents hit their kids, somehow that is admirable. Apparently it's OK to hit on humans that are waaay smaller and of lesser intelligence. A hundred years ago it was acceptable to hit women and women were of the belief they deserved it. So, it's not surprising you here from people that were hit as children say "I deserved it." Because they are brainwashed to believe they did. But those of us who are not brainwashed are standing up for little ones that cannot protect themselves and letting them know they never deserved to be hit!

Yeah, men who hit their wives are protective that way too. Only they are allowed to hit them. How sweet.

Yeah, men who hit their wives are protective that way too. Only they are allowed to hit them. How sweet.

I've also noticed that my friends who are highly educated are choosing not to spank. And they have very respectful kids. The ones that are spanked are usually aggressive with the ones that aren't. I think that speaks volumes.

You are living in a fantasy world if you believe that.

I agree GG…that is why we have so many children going gothic (wearing all black) and heavy piercings of all over their face, backtalking and stealing….

Hi Taylor, i was wondering… what are the ages of your children and how do you discipline them?

Good for you for posting this -

Amen!! A good, hard spanking when needed is far more effective than all this other bolognie that they try to use. God's way has ALWAYS been the best way…after all, he created us so he know what works best!!

Heather I'm guessing you've never raised children???

All children are different. And each child responds to different triggers. I had one child that only needed to be talked to. I had another child who didn't take you seriously until you spanked them. I have another child where spanking is the absolute worst thing you can do, but he also doesn't respond to timeouts and positive reinforcement is only partially successful, I'm still trying to learn what works with him best. If a parent has been lucky enough to never need to use firmer forms of discipline, then thank god that you were given an easier child to raise. Not everyone has it so easy.

Yup, I was spanked as well and do not resent my mother, don't believe might makes right. But I did grow up with boundaries and consequences. Adn Amanda, your right, consistency is the key.

We need to stop harassing parents who discipline their children in public. When a child misbehaves, if you deal with it right then and there, its over. But a parent who feels they can't do anything till they get home will many times either forget, leading the child to think they got away with it, or the parent will stew and get angrier and angrier and it can be much worse when they get home. Also, when I got in trouble as a kid, and I was disciplined in public, I could count on every parent face backing up my mother. I was made aware instantly that EVERY ADULT was in agreement with my mother which added to her authority in my eyes. We need to back each other up as parents because that also has a great influence on children.

Kellie, I raised my FIRST child without spanking. It was part of his personality that he responded well to other forms of discipline – scolding, loss of privileges, natural consequences. However, I had a SECOND child who had a very different personality. I firmly believed that spanking was not a necessary part of parenting, and that poor child spent two miserable years becoming more and more angry and frustrated when his interactions with the world confused him. Finally one day I steadied the screaming little guy with one hand and tapped him on the diaper with the other – and his face looked like someone had suddenly revealed the meaning of the universe! His problems certainly didn't disappear overnight, but judiciously applied spankings got his attention so we could help him grasp when he was out of tune with the rest of the world. After a year or two he did learn to tell when he NEEDED to comply with authority, and the need for physical discipline faded away. Both my sons are highly intelligent, one a responsible married self-reliant adult, and the other a very successful young man with a bright future.

My point is this – there is no single right way to raise all children. Each parent has to work with the real person who is their unique child, and figure out how that child learns. Raise your own children, and put your effort into helping and/or protecting children who are truly being harmed – injured, molested, or actually abused – rather than trying to dictate how others interact with their children.

Actions peer to peer (child to child) are very different than actions from an authority figure to a child. Yes, when a parent punishes a child in ANY way they take responsibility for the child's actions – that is a parent's JOB!!! Small children don't always understand delayed responses like time-out, and they are not mature enough to be responsible for their own actions. If they were, why would then need parents??

Proverbs 29:15 in the Bible says, "The rod and reproof give wisdom. But a child left to himself brings shame to his mother". And THAT IS TRUE! What do you usually see when a child is throwing a tantrum in public. The parents who don't spank are looking around, embarrassed by the child's behavior. The Bible does not lie! The same can be said of the parent who has not disciplined (spanked) their child and the child commits a crime of some sort. The parents are ashamed in public.

Really??? I wonder why i didn't grow up thinking it is ok to cause pain to others. Your statement makes no sense. No one i know that got their butt whipped as a child grew up thinking…."oh its ok to beat the crap out of someone". Classical example of what's wrong today

Spanking has its place, but I'm not sure I agree with these arm pullings, pinchings, and slappings. Our oldest daughter, 8, gets a spanking for lying — a consequence she is aware of, quickly delivered and usually just one, but always on the bottom. For our toddler, spanking is a useful tool for when she is trying to do something that might hurt her, such as trying to remove outlet protectors or chew on wires (also just one and on the bottom). Little kids don't understand a spanking as a defined consequence but they usually don't try to hurt themselves again if they associate the action with the pain they hopefully didn't get.

As for the other stuff… I'm sorry, but you shouldn't slap a child, especially across the face, with any force. Nor should you roughly pull their arms as they are much smaller than you generally, and pinching is just ridiculous. I'd much rather see someone spanking their child 10+ times a day than any of those actions just because they reek of disrespect of personal space and flat out rage. Spanking is a form of discipline, the others are simply angry responses to a frustrating – and temporary – behavior.

And I agree with all below posters who believe children today are worse because spanking has been turned into something taboo.

Amen!

well I grew up w/spankings , switches, belts! sorry didn't teach me respect as much as fear! respect came later when I lfet at 16 to get away! later in life after children, my dad&i were closer&then I respected! I was a parent that spanked&hit&now as a grandparent I believe w/patients&consitecey you can discipline w/hitting! I beleive thier are better ways then hitting, but parents have to work at it&not just do a couple of times&give up! sorry but how can hitting teach anything but for the kid to be mean&more angry! don't make sense to me anymore&some of theses parents today bring the word abuse to a new leval& needs to go!

there is nothing wrong with spanking as long as u do it right and not out of anger we gro up know if we did some thing wrong we would get a spanking and I can not rember no wipping so u tell me if it workes.

Raised 6 kids. had a three swat rule. It was delivered when and where they earned it. When their age hit double digit we used creative disipline- punishment fit the crime. Potty mouth-clean the toilets, do it in public, volunteer to clean some public toilets.

Raising kids is not intended to be a passive process. Good on you, Mike. http://www.theonion.com/articles/study-finds-every-style-of-parenting-produces-dist,26452/

As many of you have said, spanking works, but it is only in the short term. Rewards work too, but they do not carry over into the future. If children learn that the way to get someone to do something is to punish them or to reward them, then that is the way they learn to do anything. It is much harder to teach children about self-control and doing what is right because it is right, not because you will get a swat or a piece of candy. It's easier and quicker, but it is not more effective. The sad thing is most people don't have the time to spend disciplining a child this way.

I never got a whipping but my 6 older brothers and sisters did. It made me know that I didn't want one! lol

I agree Virginia. Spanking and punishment do not have to be mutually exclusive but can work in tandum of each other. I have a similar situation with my kids. One responds well to verbal instruction and loss of priviledges while the other needs a firmer approach. I think if you take one or both of these options off the table, as a parent, you lose you ability to effectively raise your child.

Public crime, public punishment.

I didn't see and results tell us what the effect of this form of discipline is? I know children were much better behaved way back when they knew there were consequences to their actions. Now days they correct you for trying to teach them respect of others and caring about how they turn out.

Check the Bible out. It doesn't say spare the rod, spoil the child. It says, " Spare the rod you hate the child."

Yes it does! The thing most people don't understand, is you don't always have to spank the child for spanking to work! Once a child actually understands that the consequences for bad behavior is going to be a spank on the bottom, you don't always have to follow through. A warning to getting a spanking is sometime sufficient. I am not saying this would work with every child, but it worked on me and my sister growing up, and it has worked on my child. My child is 6, I have not had to do anything more then a warning for a long time now. Since my child was very little, I started discipline with a counting warning method. If I saw/see unacceptable behavior, I start with saying 'one', if behavior has not stopped or changed, we get to 'two' and if it still hasn't changed and we get to the number 'three'. I will calmly stop behavior myself, (explain why and whats going to happen) Then a spank to the bottom. But honestly I have not had to get past '2' in a really long time, a warning is sufficient, and a 3, 4 or 5 year old absolutely understands!

I can't believe any knucklehead would ever advocate for hitting a child. Hitting your child? Really? Is about the child's behavior or your desire to deliver justice to get a rise? If a parent cannot figure out how to learn skills to negotiate better behavior from their kids then its the parent's sad fault. You can BS yourself till the cows come home but there is no way that striking another human being is a way of showing love.

The reason people are ok with hurting people is because their parents probably hit them, definitely hurt them. In Buddhism, we call that Karma, when one generation passes on their crap to their kids — creating a never-ending cycle of abuse, passed generationally, on and on. That's how this world got so screwed up. Lack of enlightenment. Lack of self knowledge. Hurt people hurt people. Cheers.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/02/news/la-heb-spanking-mental-health-problems-20120702

My kids pediatrician made this statement re:spanking. You should save spanking for important things. Major safety issues (running in a parking lot, playing with matches) and major disrespect. Do not become a mom who spanks all the time.. constantly swatting a kid on the butt. When you spank, make it significant and memorable! I'm sure at some point I spanked when I shouldn't have, but that being said.. I have three very respectful and hard working young men. And two granddaughters who are being raised to be just the same. Well mannered and respectful of their elders.

Kellie I do agree Love doesnt hurt, but discipline does. There is so much more to parenting than just loving your kids. Some would suggest that sitting them in a room with 35 other children and allowing a stranger who doesnt have a vested interest in them learning to teach them is lazy. We need to stop trying to reinvent the wheel I got spanked AND whooped (whipped for the grammatically concerned) lol It hurt but you know what I DIDNT do, I didnt make an appearance on ricky lake or jenny jones with my parents afraid of me. I didnt talk back in a disrespectful manner when told to do something. I also learned very important boundary issues that have helped me in corporate america. I think NOT spanking your children when needed and within the confines of discipline not revenge, is lazy and you will have to pay a much greater price in life when you go visit them in jail or worse. Life is fair believe it or not and at some point your kids are gonna get spanked either by you, by the streets or by the courts but they will NOT escape this life without being spanked as a parent your job is so critical you have to teach them that discipline and respect are essential or you wind up with a generation of kids who Dont have any discipline think the world owes them something and dont know how to love or live together.

Kellie I do agree Love doesnt hurt, but discipline does. There is so much more to parenting than just loving your kids. Some would suggest that sitting them in a room with 35 other children and allowing a stranger who doesnt have a vested interest in them learning to teach them is lazy. We need to stop trying to reinvent the wheel I got spanked AND whooped (whipped for the grammatically concerned) lol It hurt but you know what I DIDNT do, I didnt make an appearance on ricky lake or jenny jones with my parents afraid of me. I didnt talk back in a disrespectful manner when told to do something. I also learned very important boundary issues that have helped me in corporate america. I think NOT spanking your children when needed and within the confines of discipline not revenge, is lazy and you will have to pay a much greater price in life when you go visit them in jail or worse. Life is fair believe it or not and at some point your kids are gonna get spanked either by you, by the streets or by the courts but they will NOT escape this life without being spanked as a parent your job is so critical you have to teach them that discipline and respect are essential or you wind up with a generation of kids who Dont have any discipline think the world owes them something and dont know how to love or live together.

well I am not one to use spanking but till you have kids of your own its easy to say you will never do that or say thats not the right thing…parenting is hard and sometimes you will do things you swear you will never do!….there is a huge difference between a few swats on the arse and beating the shit out of yours kids …..proud but not perfect mom of 3 ……

in order to have disciplined children than the parent must disciplined or lead by example. when parents beat their child there is obviously some pyschological problems occurring with them. it may come from previous abuse but it also may come from having a mental disorder that they have nevr looked into. i have clients that may have had good parenting but have a mental disorder and therefore did not qite understand life/how to live in general and having children thrown into that isnt always the best situation. so they ended up beating their children and then the children of course are now in foster care. but there are many reasons why people do what they do. but in cases where it isnt mental health an dit is parenting that was taught then education is the prevention. we dont have any real programs in public schools that would actually apply time an denergy to teach children or even remotely speak to them regardng abuse of any kind. children know it is wrong. any human knows its wrong when you express an emotion of hurt you know you are doing wrong or vice versa. i dont agree with spanking children. but i also dont believ in a lot of things parents do at times. so i could be wrong

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in order to have disciplined children than the parent must disciplined or lead by example. when parents beat their child there is obviously some pyschological problems occurring with them. it may come from previous abuse but it also may come from having a mental disorder that they have never looked into. i have clients that may have had good parenting but have a mental disorder and therefore did not quite understand life/how to live in general and having children thrown into that isnt always the best situation. so they ended up beating their children and then the children of course are now in foster care. but there are many reasons why people do what they do. but in cases where it isnt mental health and it is parenting that was taught then education is the prevention. we dont have any real programs in public schools that would actually apply time an denergy to teach children or even remotely speak to them regardng abuse of any kind. children know it is wrong. any human knows its wrong when you express an emotion of hurt you know you are doing wrong or vice versa. i dont agree with spanking children. but i also dont believ in a lot of things parents do at times. so i could be wrong

by all the obnoxious, rude, impolite, self-centered, crude little (and big) awful children you see out and about these days it is obvious that 'time-outs' and 'reasoning' with children does NOT work.

Really? I was spanked as a child and grew up KNOWING it was wrong to cause pain to others. Spanking and hitting are two very different things. My parents spanked my behind – that's the place God created for such things. I was never hit by my parents, never pinched, shoved, hair pulled. Those things are wrong. Being spanked is very different. Spanking is not 'beating the crap out of someone'.

When you see all of the young (and older) rude, impolite, crude, self-centered, obnoxious, undisciplined, disrespectful kids out and about these days does it not become obvious that time-outs and reasoning and pleading with your kids is not working? Time to try something else, people. Had some of these kids had a couple of fanny swats at the beginning they would not need them later because you would have already established who is in charge and to be obeyed and respected!

I agree! The only time I ever hit my kids, that I can remember, in anger was when my Son and my daughter both tested me and talked back with disrespect. My son was in his late teens or older and my daughter was 21. They both got one smack in the mouth and never did it again.

I agree! The only time I ever hit my kids, that I can remember, in anger was when my Son and my daughter both tested me and talked back with disrespect. My son was in his late teens or older and my daughter was 21. They both got one smack in the mouth and never did it again.

Threre is nothing wrong with spanking, done properly. Beating a kid until they bleed and like that is ridiculous, but a spanking never hurt anyone. In fact, it is this psycho babble BS that is being used today to avoid being a true parent, is the major reason we are having problems with our youth. The old adage of spare the rod and spoil the child, is 100% correct. Excusing bad behavior, or using "time out" after about five years old, just does not work. This is proven over and over again in life. Those promoting corporal less punishment, are undermining the fabric of the children, and are themselves, weak.

Just the same, I know many well educated parents who raise children I wouldn't want unattended at my house. I have cousins who 'raised their children on love', who raised brats that even grandma and grandpa didn't want at their homes.
I don't think you can compare 'hitting' with 'spanking'. I wouldn't 'hit' a dog or other animal, because animals don't have the higher reasoning abilities to understand hitting. I also wouldn't 'hit' a child. Hitting is wrong and implies anger and violence. I would 'spank' a child on their behind. Children have higher reasoning and can understand such cause and effect.

I totally believe in spanking. Kids don't respect anything or anyone now days. And it is time parents take charge of their children without worring if they will be charged with child abuse. I was spanked by both my parents and I did not hate them, they taught me values.

I am glad I was spanked growing up. We were no means "abused" by our parents… we got spanked when it was deserved, and you know what… we learned right from wrong VERY quickly because of it. My parents got so many compliments about how well behaved my twin brother and I were because we KNEW what was expected of us, and what the punishment would be if we didn't follow the rules and misbehaved. We would go to functions with parents were other kids were not around, because the people holding the functions allowed only my brother and I to attend, because they knew we listened. Having things taken away when we were older, like "time-outs" or "restrictions" didn't have the same impact on us as a spanking did. So what… you took away the TV, I'll keep doing it. However, threaten with a spanking? OK, I'll stop now…

I would agree there is nothing wrong with spanking, either with the hand, belt or switch, as long as it's to the buttocks and not excessive. I don't consider that abuse. Slapping a child in the face, verbally abusing them, that may be crossing the line.

Doesn't work, because kids will wear you down by saying , " I'm sorry." or" I won't do it again."or" Please mommy don't take that." All the time crying until you can't stand it. And if you never say no to a kid, forget it, watch what happens when someone else does. OMG! They just can't handle it and cry their heads off.

Oh my yes! Kids now a days… all you hear is parents constantly sayng " Joey, stop that…" and Joey doesn't stop that… because Joey knows there is no punishment for ignoring his parents and not stoping whatever behavior he is doing. Or you hear the parents counting to 3… and guess what? When they get to 3… there's nothing!! No punishment for getting to 3. Or they try bribing the child… "If you are good, you can get ___." The child acts ups, isn't good and guess what… the parent STILL gets the child whatever it was they promised, because when they tell the child "No, you aren't getting that" the child throws a tantrum, so to get the child to stop, they buy it for them. Kids now-a-days seem to have to accountability for their actions, and take no responsibility what so ever in their actions and behaviors. They believe the world is owed to them on a silver platter, regardless if they earned it or not.

Reading the comments has made me aware of a few things. We need to go back to teaching logic in school. Parents keep talking about 'spanking' which should probably be defined as 'swatting on the behind'. Others keep responding with how 'beating' and 'hitting' are wrong. Comparing spanking and beating are like comparing driving and drunk driving. Both sides are not speaking the same language.

I tried to keep most of my discipline at home. When my girls were little and we were going out in public, I warned them. Don't touch, don't grab, don't sass. If they did, we immediately left where we were to go discipline privately. I believed that if I did most of the spankings before age 4, they wouldn't remember it as much, but the results would be there. My girls are 14 and 16, respectful (well they are teenagers, lol) not pregnant, sleeping around, drinking, doing drugs, and for my own bias – not embarrassing to be seen with because of choice of dress or other factors.

I am a firm believer that other people, and the government, need to keep their noses out of how others raise their children. You don't take away my right to raise my child in my way, and I won't meddle in your rights either.
That said, look around at the new crop of adults.
In the years that spanking has come under attack, and parents have almost lost the ability to discipline in public without fear of CPS, look at the kids that are being raised. Lack of respect for authority. Lazy. Undisciplined. Thinking that society as a whole is going to let them do as they wish without any fear of repercussions from their actions.
Why would they think that? Maybe because the worst thing that has ever happened to them was mom took away their game boy for punishment?

Agreed. Today's parents and too afraid to do that. Or just won't.

There's also something said for being spanked in public as well. Embarrassment is a big factor with learning what NOT to do in public too. My parents weren't afraid to spank us in public either… or stop what we were doing and go home, regardless if we just ordered food or not and hadn't eaten yet. We also had respect for adults and our parents. There was no talking back, no being rude, and we listened to other adults if they gave us instructions. None of that "you aren't my mom." that some kids say now.

There's also something said for being spanked in public as well. Embarrassment is a big factor with learning what NOT to do in public too. My parents weren't afraid to spank us in public either… or stop what we were doing and go home, regardless if we just ordered food or not and hadn't eaten yet. We also had respect for adults and our parents. There was no talking back, no being rude, and we listened to other adults if they gave us instructions. None of that "you aren't my mom." that some kids say now.

Doing nothing when your child steps over the line the worst form of child abuse. If your child is allowed to act as they like without consequence from you, too often society isn't as forgiving. Which can lead to a hard life for a young adult with a criminal record and no future.

EXACTLY ! and we grew up to appreciate, respect and understand right from wrong ! i still practice and believe in spanking today. God padded that bottom for a purpose !

NOT spanking is what's wrong with the kids today, there is nothing wrong with poppin your kid on the butt for misbehaving, running their mouths or just straight up being disrespectful to you or any other adult. They will not be traumatized for life or end up with mental issues. Spanking your kids beats the hell outta lettin em grow up to be rude, disrespectful, hell on wheel adults who think the world owes them somethin.

AMEN NANCY!!!

“Means we use must be as pure as the ends we seek.”~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

“Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into friend.” ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

I agree wholeheartedly. I liked your story, Mike. I hardly ever spanked my children, but when I did, I had a good reason. I paddled my youngest when she was about 7 and turned up missing for almost a whole day. I was terrified, and when I finally found her playing at a neighbor's, I spanked her. I can't remember another time, but she never did anything like that again.

Not meaning to be controversial but I will reiterate that it is up to the parent to learn how make themselves into more peaceful people and better communicators. There are no excuses for not doing that work. That is all of our burdens in this life.

I agree, Cara, and my grown up children love and respect me. Spanking is not abuse — at least not the way my parents did it. They never really hurt me and I never hurt my children, either.

She was talking about her children, or weren't you paying attention?

Shall I demonstrate the effect parents have on children:

http://www.upworthy.com/is-racism-born-or-taught-if-you-answered-born-you-havent-seen-this-video?c=bl3

Yes, I believe in spanking, not beating! Getting a couple of spanks on the seat of education is to me, the same as getting a warning ticket from a policeman when I have done something wrong. Certainly makes me be aware that I don't want to do the same thing again. Thus a spanking is a WAKE UP call! Stop and think! Other wise there is a penalty to pay! I am old school, and I feel the new school is failing kids in so many ways!

Amen, Sister!

the person I responded to said, "spanking shows that it is ok to cause pain to others". my reference was meant to mean the same thing as you said, spanking is not the equivalent of beating the crap out of someone

I agree that it should be only for significant things, but I also have three very respectful and well-behaved children, and we don't spank. I've read that it is consistency, not spanking (or non-spanking) that actually creates well-behaved children.

To give some perspective on both sides of the issue, my younger sister moved to the East Coast to be a nanny after high school. The couple she worked for were both psychologists with a 3 year old boy. The parents did not believe in spanking, but rather reasoning with their 3 year old. Has anyone ever tried to reason with a 3 year old? She eventually had to resign from the position because the child did'nt respect anyone, or any established behavioral boundaries.
On the other hand, my wife and I have both spanked our two kids when they were toddlers. One child biting the other resulted in a spanking immediately, no warning! For misbehaving, they always got a "3 strikes" rule. I would tell them 'no' twice and warn them a third time meant a spanking and I stuck to it. No empty threats. After the spanking, 1-3 swats on the bottom, we talked about it and I made the child tell me why they got a spanking. By the time my kids were about 3-4 years old, we no longer needed spanking as a disciplinary measure. My kids are well behaved, my wife and I got numerous compliments on how well behaved the kids were in public and to this day, they ask permission when they question an activity.
To sum up, spanking, when used in context, works.

To give some perspective on both sides of the issue, my younger sister moved to the East Coast to be a nanny after high school. The couple she worked for were both psychologists with a 3 year old boy. The parents did not believe in spanking, but rather reasoning with their 3 year old. Has anyone ever tried to reason with a 3 year old? She eventually had to resign from the position because the child did'nt respect anyone, or any established behavioral boundaries.
On the other hand, my wife and I have both spanked our two kids when they were toddlers. One child biting the other resulted in a spanking immediately, no warning! For misbehaving, they always got a "3 strikes" rule. I would tell them 'no' twice and warn them a third time meant a spanking and I stuck to it. No empty threats. After the spanking, 1-3 swats on the bottom, we talked about it and I made the child tell me why they got a spanking. By the time my kids were about 3-4 years old, we no longer needed spanking as a disciplinary measure. My kids are well behaved, my wife and I got numerous compliments on how well behaved the kids were in public and to this day, they ask permission when they question an activity.
To sum up, spanking, when used in context, works.

My dad hit me with his leather belt for bickering with my sister when he came home from work. He couldn't handle stress. He left bruises from the buckle & slash marks all up my back. When I was 13 I starred him in the eye with each slash & said " Hit me again it don't hurt" after a few more slashes with commits like " ooh big man" " hit me again" He saw the hate in my eyes. He never hit me again. I am 61 now. He died at 83 & I took care of him when he couldn't feed himself or walk. My dad was beaten as a child. He became an alcoholic. like his dad. I never hit my kids.

thanks for the correction….. that is even more compelling!

it also depends on the kids and what they respond to. your kids seemed to respond well to other things, while a friend of mine's kids sometimes will not listen, so the only way to get to them is to spank them. but, like both of you have said, spanking should be for significant things, or as a last resort.

The King James says "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes."

Ha ha. I don't know if you remember but once while in your class, we were supposed to stay together while walking down the hall. I got distracted and stopped to look at something. You came up and popped me on the butt. I NEVER did that again no matter how interesting something was. I still remember that and no, I am not traumatized. LOL

Lazy parents use spanking as a way of discipline, it takes more of an effort to talk to your kids and use a non-violent way to solve the problem. If you hit your child when your angry, you are sending the message that it's ok to use violence when your angry! Personally, can't imagine a situation where I would use violence against any child.

Lazy parents use spanking as a way of discipline, it takes more of an effort to talk to your kids and use a non-violent way to solve the problem. If you hit your child when your angry, you are sending the message that it's ok to use violence when your angry! Personally, can't imagine a situation where I would use violence against any child.

It all comes down to how each one of us reacted to it as kids. While you say getting spanked didn't teach you respect, but only fear, I feel the opposite about it. Although I was afraid of getting spanked (what kid looks forward to it?), it taught me the true lines between right and wrong. If I was going to do something wrong that would result in me being spanked, I would think twice about it when I was a kid. Its all about setting the precedence because if you, as a parent, use spanking as a discipline method wisely and carefully, you will be able to still teach kids respect. Like you said, you spanked your kids and they all have and show respect for their parents and the same goes for me and my sister growing up. I am the person I am today because of all of the happenings in my life and I'm proud of that. Nobody said parenting was easy and I'm just learning but if Emma misbehaves, I dont have an issue with spanking her. Kids just need to know right from wrong and I feel that is a helpful method of doing so when done correctly.

I agree Mike. I would be the first to step in if I saw someone beating or abusing their kid but these parents who warn and warn…etc, need a spanking themselves. They are inflicting their weakness in parenting on the rest of society. I don't blame the children but the parents make me crazy! My children were taught one warning and then delivery. IT works!

Sure does…and I agree. It also says honor thy father and mother so that thy days may be long on the earth. How do kids learn to honor parents….by being taught and raised right.

Thank you sir for saying what I was going to say to these mamby pamby, touchy feely idiots before my head exploded! There is a difference between spanking and beating and most right thinking people know that. These folks will be wringing their hands , if they are not already, when they are doing step and fetch it for adults who do not have the life skills to leave home.

cool you wrote almost exactly what I would have had you not said it so well allready. sounds like we were raised along the same lines I never could get mad because I only was punished if I Lied about something I did the first time or did it again after I had been told it was wrong the first time I did it. dad never screamed or called me names and never punched me I was hit only on my rear end and never more than 3 times my proof this is efective is that in my family only the cousins I had that didnt get spankings all turned to crime the ones who recieved spankings all work for a living and Im pretty sure proper discipline without abuse is responsible.

Hit with a fist or something usually. You are not talking about the same thing. A swat on the bottom is different than beating and you are being obtuse.

Hit with a fist or something usually. You are not talking about the same thing. A swat on the bottom is different than beating and you are being obtuse.

By the way, my adult daughter happened to read this and what my comments are and she and my granddaughter agree with me. Both have been spanked as younger girls and are not abusive nor would they allow a man to abuse them so…there!

If a child is misbehaving in public, he or she should be disciplined in public. Too many parents fear the retribution attributed with spanking their child. Spanking IS NOT THE SAME AS ABUSING. My mother spanked me only a handful of times. I deserved each and every one of them. They were usually dished out when I was in danger of hurting myself or another person. My parents DEMANDED respect. We gave it to them, publicly and privately. My mother eventually became my friend, when I became an adult, but she was a parent first and foremost.
I have spanked my son. On his rear end when he ran out into a street at a very young age. I have also spanked him in public when he was disrespectful and behaving boorishly. One good whap on his behind with my hand. Nothing more. He survived and amazingly enough he never misbehaved in public (at least not in my presence) again. In fact, he is very polite and a joy to be with when we go out in public to run errands.
Most people wait until they can't control their child before attempting to discipline them. I think parents should teach right from wrong from a very early age. The last time I spanked my son he was 5. He's 17 now. I never gave empty threats or promises. If I told him he'd get a spanking if he didn't stop his bad behavior, he got a spanking if he continued to misbehave. There was a 3 strike rule as he grew up. The first time he did something wrong I would tell him why it was wrong and not to do it again. If he did it again, I would again tell him that he may not do it again and if he did there would be consequences. If he did the same act a third time he would be punished. He obviously knew it was wrong.
I don't believe in spanking a child because you are too lazy to teach them what is right or wrong. A three year old has no idea why he bit his friend. He needs to be taught that biting hurts, not spanked for doing it. There needs to be a connection between good behavior and attention. There are too many young ones out there doing very adult things just to garner some attention from any adult that will give it to them.

My son agrees also.

My son agrees also.

There's a Big difference in spanking a bratty child who's testing You in public and beating them. I believe in a simple spank on the butt or a slap of the hand to avoid harm.

We've tried both ways! I think the bigger issue is consistency of the parents. But I have figured out the best way to discipline, if I'm consistent!

I was also spanked and I learned early on not to sass my parents and to respect my elders. You look at those today who are not disciplined and you can clearly see the difference. Sadly CPS has made it out to be abusive behavior. Never once did I ever consider my spankings a abusive form. I was deserving of them. This is why the kids are who they are and the way they are today. We were also spanked on our bottoms and the redness quickly faded but the message did not. We learned!

Taylor: There is a big difference between a man 'punishing' or 'bullying' a woman by using physical repercussions than a parent disciplining a child by slapping a hand over a hot stove, delivering a swift strike on the butt in response to a screaming fit in the store, or taking a child over the knee for cruelty to animals or other children, or other serious and dangerous offenses.

Non-spanking parents: How would you deal with the above situations? What toddler is going to believe you that 'it's hot'? How would you get them to become reasonable again when they are distraught to the point of screaming in a store? How do you make them empathize with the children and animals they harm (out of innocent curiosity or because they are on the verge of a temper tantrum)? Granted, I wouldn't spank in those last two scenarios unless there was real harm done, a time out together to talk about hitting and picking the cat up by the tail could usually suffice. Not spanking to me is foolish, and the above post-secondary teacher is absolutely correct. You can tell the spanked from the unspanked.

Thank you, but you both "hated " us for it at the time, and we ate some cold take out meals at home (only one or two thank goodness) and it was really nice to have all of us invited to " adults only" functions… But you good behavior might also have been cuz we "left you guys on street corners when you were very very litt le so we could take the money from the people who took you to take you back!"

I agree, consistency is the key. I believe that after any discipline, a parent should reinforce love and not push the child away. After spanking, grounding or whatever, it is important to tell a child that while you did not agree with their behavior, you do love them.

Absolutely Gary!!! Amen on that!! More parents need to adopt that reasoning. I really hope to see a change in the next generation. My niece and nephew know not to mess around…they didn't get spanked in the beginning, but boy howdy, they know now!!! lol

Spanking was used in my parent's home and in mine. Effective when used without anger and in the manner that Amanda Jolliffe (poster below mine) described. I think it is beneficial.

So Taylor, in your utopian society, any physical contact that can cause discomfort is abuse and is always brought back to a man hitting a woman….have you gotten the idea that this topic is about spanking a child, not beating a woman? Two separate things and NOT comparable. Two adults can comprehend spoken words and consequences of actions. Telling your partner that something upsets you should be sufficient. Try explaining to a two year old that a stove is hot, sit them down and have a nice long logical talk with them as they are blowing spit bubbles and daydreaming about the Wiggles…because they tuned you out 10 minutes ago in your MONOLOGUE. I guess it is better in your world to let them learn the consequences by getting third degree burns over a mild irritation to their hand from you smacking it and saying NO, HOT!. And back to my original point of physical contact…so a bear hug with hearty slaps on the back is abuse…a good game or a too hard high five that leaves the hand stinging is abuse…just because it is uncomfortable and mildly painful does NOT make it abuse. Slapping anyone in the face, a balled up fist, if it leaves a mark that doesn't fade within a couple minutes…THAT is abuse. The definition of abuse that is most fitting to punishment is tis: v. to use so as to injure or damage: MALTREATMENT. A properly delivered spanking is neither meant to injure or damage. If done properly, you won't cause a bruise or barely a red mark, but what you will cause is physical or emotional discomfort. Something that will almost immediately fade away to nothingness, but be replaced with something much more profound…understanding of the boundaries that are set, respect for your authority, and their immediate attention being focused on you and your words. Beating a woman has no place in this discussion, so please stop equating the two, because beating a woman does NOT have discipline as it's core, it has subservience.

When I was growing up, my father had a saying. "Whether it happens through fear or willingness, you WILL respect me." Screwing up back then meant a trip to the bedroom for a goood dose of the razor strap. Believe me, it WORKED. At 61, I hear these rude, foulmouthed kids cussing out their parents. I'd have done that only once in the 60's, I'd have been back-handed into the present day. You didn't even think of doing something like that. I didn't grow up and become an axe murderer because I got my ass blistered growing up. I'd love to take these brats today back to my time. Not a one of them would last an hour with their attitudes.

That sounds about right

get a new pediatrician.

finally.

Todd Gallegos Having received spankings from both Teachers and principles(and on occasion choosing it as an alternative to other punishments, I have to say that I don't have a problem with it as long as they contact me first and I agree with them. If I got a spanking at school I usually got another one when I got home. The schools need some way to maintain discipline as well, even when the parents refuse to do it themselves.

I was never hit as a child myself, but I do see the need for some children to have the occasional smack. My mum said I was an exceptional child and I always did as I was told, which was lucky for her I suppose! But I've seen so many rowdy younger children that perhaps would benefit from the odd spank. For example, the other day I saw a boy of about 8 and his mum. He refused to do anything he was told and ignored her completely and then said "I'm going to do whatever I want because I know you won't do anything about it in public!" which is pretty disgraceful to be honest, although really it's the mum's fault for not enforcing any discipline. Thing is, so many parents have lost control of their children today though through the fear of punishing their children openly, be it smacking or other means, in case they are deemed as bad parents or child abusers. The world has become far too soft, creating a generation of unruly kids.

riiight.

It worked on me!

I disagree! My mother didn't spank us and we were disrespectful to her. My father did spank us and we were never disrespectful to him!

That's the same with my first child. I didn't use spanking because I wanted to try some of the modern methods with him. He was pretty disrespectful to me so now I spank! I get better results.

It also helped having my dad come visit and tell me what he did. My child was pretty disrespectful to him and others as well. The child is much more respectful.

I didn't start spanking him until he was 6 or 7.

LOL Kate Armstrong Gordon… I am sure you have well behaved children! I know you!!! I agree with Alexis Brimhall. I think individual children respond differently to different punishments. As for the lady who recommends a new pediatrician…. I would say this. I'm sure she feels strongly against public spanking.. which this article is addressing. In fact the article is saying that people frequently spank in private, but not in public. I would guess that lots of parents would not admit to having spanked their children, due to social constraints. I simply posted my thoughts on spanking. I do not expect ANYONE to agree with me. I am simply stating that it worked for us. I wonder sometimes though… if those who are absolutely against any sort of punishments… the parents who refuse to say no to their children… even the one's who never spank…are the parents of the children who we can't stand to be around? You know, the kid who runs around the restaurant unrestrained… the one who screams in the grocery store.. the child who hits your child at school, with no fear of punishment from their parents for these behaviors? My children behaved in the grocery store and restaurants. When we go to dinner now as a family… the only child who misbehaves is the one who does not have consistency,boundaries or punishments for bad behavior. The sad thing is… he is somewhat avoided by everyone, adult and child due to his bad behavior. This child could have benefited from consistency and a well placed swat to his backside before he became out of control. Even with spanking.. there must be consistency!

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Did you respect your father or fear him? Did you love your mom less or more for not hitting you? How did your mom discipline you if she didn't spank you? I don't buy in too the phrase " I hit you because I love you" !

Your child has taught you to count. Bravo. In return, you have taught them that they only have to obey when you are getting close to 3. Consequences delayed become inconsistent. Call the child's name (or in some way get their attention), instead of counting till they obey, then tell them not to do "it". If they disobey, immediately but calmly spank one significant swat for disobeying. The child will become trained to "obey" your voice instead of listening for the number or tone of voice that means business! You can modify the number or strength of swats if necessary, but swift and unpleasant consequences yield results. You don't have to be unpleasant, just the consequence of disobedience is unpleasant. What if they are running into the street? At what count will they be in front of the oncoming truck? I raised 3, and if they were running and I yelled "Stop" they would shut 'er down and slide a few inches by the age of 3 and look to me for safe direction! They weren't scared of me, they knew I was their protector. Does anyone else besides me shudder in the store when they hear a parent loudly and proudly say "ONE…"

Your child has taught you to count. Bravo. In return, you have taught them that they only have to obey when you are getting close to 3. Consequences delayed become inconsistent. Call the child's name (or in some way get their attention), instead of counting till they obey, then tell them not to do "it". If they disobey, immediately but calmly spank one significant swat for disobeying. The child will become trained to "obey" your voice instead of listening for the number or tone of voice that means business! You can modify the number or strength of swats if necessary, but swift and unpleasant consequences yield results. You don't have to be unpleasant, just the consequence of disobedience is unpleasant. What if they are running into the street? At what count will they be in front of the oncoming truck? I raised 3, and if they were running and I yelled "Stop" they would shut 'er down and slide a few inches by the age of 3 and look to me for safe direction! They weren't scared of me, they knew I was their protector. Does anyone else besides me shudder in the store when they hear a parent loudly and proudly say "ONE…"

I agree, if you tell a child they are going to get a spanking, follow through with it.

I agree, if you tell a kid they are going to get a spanking, follow.

Love doesn't hurt? Hmmm. You better find some swift and terrible consequence if you don't spank. How is a timeout going to make them obey quick enough if you yell STOP and they keep running into the street? Your love may not 'hurt' but I guarantoldteeyou that big truck WILL hurt. Love conquers all, including disobedience, and real love delivers unpleasant consequences to disobedience. The Bible says if you spare the rod you HATE your son. Take it up with the Author.

I definitely respected him and no, I didn't fear him. He did an extremely good job of showing an increase of love afterwards. My mother used reader's digest or church articles and talking. Now that I'm older and have my own children, I'm embarrassed at how I treated my mother.

First of all My parents taught me right from wrong FIRST,(as I did my kids) Then spanking came when I went over the line and did something I knew was wrong, (again, as I did with my kids) Neither myself or my children go around acting out in a violent manner. Did spanking hurt us. NO WAY! It taught us that when we do wrong we can expect consequences that may hurt, both our pride and backsides. Todays society teaches life is sunshine and roses and we can have our way anyway we can get it, even if we have to do wrong to get it. I never heard of serial killers, or psychos shooting up colleges and theaters when I was a kid. Back then most children were spanked, and not treated with kid gloves.

In fact, it is my father that I confide in more and ask for his opinion on so many things. But I realize just how great of a mother I did have. She did so much for us kids, she sacrificed so much that it's just horrible how I treated her!

I'm interested in how you discipline your children, dad's method or mom's?

Ugh! Had a long comment that just was lost. Basically I said I believed there is a right and a wrong way to do it. I spanked my kids when they were younger; always on the bottom (on the back of the hand when toddlers) and usually found 1-2 swats sufficient. Can't say I never spanked out of anger, but I made a big effort to "cool off" first whenever I could (counted to ten, sent them to wait for me for the spanking). Sometimes I think it helped to be older when I had my kids, but I'm sure that is not a guarantee of anyone.
My parents spanked us when we were kids, too. Can't say it was never done without anger, but it was usually deserved (broken rule; not doing something we were told to do; etc.). It was the only way they knew, when we were young, to punish us for disobedience. None of us grew up to become spouse abusers, none of us used hitting or fighting to solve problems at school, and none of us ever got into drugs or alcoholism.
There are enough REAL abusive situations in homes that need to be dealt with properly.

Obviously I'm not going to start counting if my child is running into the street, that was a bad example on your part. You were missing my point, everything you were 'recommending' is exactly what I have done with my child, right when they were old enough to understand. My point is after a while there is no need to always immediately spank them, instead of giving them a warning before so. I don't immediately punish my child, I give at least 1 or more chances for them to make the right decision themselves. And parenting my child's behavior is completely different then what I would do if they were in immediate danger, You better believe me if my kid was about to put a fork in an electrical outlet i'm going to be yelling NO, not counting to three. Or if they were running in the street (which I have never experienced because from day one I have always talked about safety with my child) but theoretically I would yell stop at them if they were running into the street. And quite honestly I don't shudder when I'm in the store when I see any parent doing anything, because what works for one may not work for the other, but I'm not going to judge them for it.

I'd like to do my dad's methods more, but I do not exactly know how. Only since he has been coming over to visit more regularly did I get a few pointers on how wrong I was going about my disciplining. My husband and I are too soft and we didn't follow through with our threats and he pointed that out. The spankings were few as a child and just the threat of being spanked did a quick correction course, I definitely remember that. I distinctly remember being grounded to my room for an hour without anything else to do as a child and a teenager when I would do wrong. I do not remember ever being spanked as a teenager. Other types of disciplining he taught me are when my daughter is having a tantrum keeping everyone awake, it was not acceptable to let her scream and keep everyone awake, which we were doing. He taught us to take her to another part of the house where no one was being disturbed and sit her on a couch and tell her she can come back upstairs when she decides she's not going to scream anymore. I let her sit there on that couch and scream until she's stops crying and is ready to talk. I remember him or my mom coming and sitting in whatever class we were not properly behaving in when they were told by the teachers of our behavior. That happened only once in my Sunday School Class and it never happened again. I honestly don't remember exactly what it was that I was ever spanked for, but I remember him threatening if we disobeyed him. He only had to ask once. When I try the "new methods" of society on my son, I have to sit and ask a zillion times. If I threaten to spank him, he responds the very first time now!

Why not take the it instructions of the originator of parenting… What did He say? Wasn't "Spare the rod… Spoil the child." Seeing the Father feels it is proper for his followers to use under his direction in both of his communications, I do not feel it reasonable to try to re-invent a "better way " to bring up the decendents of the decendents of the decendents… He not only "used the rod" in the exclusion from the Garden, but also gave counsel and offered forgivness in showing perfect love by only having His Son bear the full "spanking" of death with the final gift of eternal life for all, through faith in His life, death and resurection. Therefore, do I spank? Yes… will I again? Yes if the offence justifies it. Communication is important, but when it is needed, use the rod.

I do like telling them that I will count to five and let them do whatever I requested on their own and if I get to five and they haven't responded then a punishment of whatever I decide they get. That can be a spank. Whenever I forget to do the spankings and revert back to the accepted society methods, I get very frustrated and lose my temper because they don't work!

WOW… what an oppionated un loving member of society. Do you think the animal in your anchor snap shot… the Indian tiger treats its kittens to live and develop into mature adult cats without a parental correctice nip as a corrective teaching tool in the life of its cubs? I think not. You are doing a fine job of displaying your lack of parental understanding. Go back and check your examples in nature. The higher up the level of creation the animals are, the more corrective action by the Aplha Male and Beta Female comes into play using pain as only ONE of the training tools in the maturation process.

Train them at home, show them off in public: Teach what is right, show what is right, practice what is right at home; love with all your heart; spank when needed–based on right/wrong, not parent's mood; be consistent; give grace; pray hard; read God's Word. Take them out in public on trial runs when you have time to deal with them; teach them that going outside the home is a privilege. Don't lose temper at home or out, even if you have to fake it! Don't give a child what they cry or whine for. Do lots of fun things together, teach them to respect your agenda and give their agenda plenty of priority as well. Be the adult–that makes them feel secure. Give them boundaries, which also gives them freedom inside the boundaries. Parents fail, but in the end, we are our children's best resource, biggest fans, deepest love. God Help Us to love sacrifcially and unconditionally, just as He does. Children have so much to teach us–never miss an opportunity to learn from them.

I used to get a "whipping" everyday. I used to wonder why they didn't just spank me when I awaken and just get it over with. I was an aggravating kid!

Thanks for speaking up, Jean. It's important–UN Treaty on the rights of the child is on the horizon. http://www.parentalrights.org

I was spanked repeatedly as a child. Well ok it was deserved! It taught me that there are consequences for my actions and those consequences are not going to be a good thing! My parents would repeatedly speak to me and then when I didn't pay any attention to what they had been telling me they certainly got my attention with a several swats on the behind. I think there is a difference between spanking and beating a child. No child should ever be beaten, but most could use a spanking on occasion.

Wow, don't you people FINALLY get it? Spanking IS hitting. It is nothing other than hitting a kid on the butt. Hitting is NOT ok. Nobody hits you people when you are acting like fools, and I am sure you do, because all people have bad days. And children don't know right from wrong at an early age. You need to TEACH them. Aren't you absolutely ashamed of supporting the hitting of a smaller human being? I have never laid a hand on a child in my care, neither on my pets (which I learned is not uncommon either). STOP THE DAMN HITTING!

Wow, don't you people FINALLY get it? Spanking IS hitting. It is nothing other than hitting a kid on the butt. Hitting is NOT ok. Nobody hits you people when you are acting like fools, and I am sure you do, because all people have bad days. And children don't know right from wrong at an early age. You need to TEACH them. Aren't you absolutely ashamed of supporting the hitting of a smaller human being? I have never laid a hand on a child in my care, neither on my pets (which I learned is not uncommon either). STOP THE DAMN HITTING!

Wow Natalie M. Rascoe, I was spanked and I mean a lot as a child, and yet never abused and I have yet to cause pain to others! Spanking has a place and so does the time out. I believe there are many ways of disciplining and teaching our children. There were times I was able to talk to and reason with my child and then there were times it required a few swats on the behind to get her attention. But then I suppose you are so much more perfect than I so you go on and use logic with your children. Just don't go crying to anyone when they realize they are in big trouble because they didn't learn where the real boundaries are in life.

i have a 33 year old eagle scout who went to a local science and tech high school . never had to lay a hand on him for punishment.

So what I'm hearing is that your teaching your children that if someone doesn't act , talk or respond the way you want them to, you hit them. I believe your children should do what you say because they respect you , not because you will cause them physical pain. Disciplining your children by taking things they like away from them or sending to there room does take more patience on your part and probably wont work as quickly as a spanking, but they will soon learn that you mean business and get the message. Spanking will get instant results and if that is most important to you than you will always revert back that . That's why I feel it is the lazy way. BTW, after hitting your children, how do YOU feel, that matters too.

No, you're twisting things. And since I've tried the other way for 7 years and saw the behavior compared to how I see things now, spanking is better and it isn't hitting. I wonder if you even have kids.

Tom Sonnenberg: Also, you don't see me hitting various people because they don't act, talk or respond the way I want them to. Nor do you see that from my siblings.

Benjamin Spock did more to destroy this country than any other person. Kids without discipline never learn the boundries that are established in a polite, respectful of others, society.

Exactly and what people don't realize is that kids who are raised without boundaries or discipline are shocked when they have to pay for their actions as adults. When you are grown, the law doesn't keep warning over and over. In my opinion it is greater abuse to raise a child without respect for others and a sense of entitlement. What a shock they get!

Jenean I agree whole heartedly. I taught mine the same because I expected respect and like you I needed them to know one warning was it because if, God forbid they were in danger, swift obedience was the key to safety. Yes I do shudder when I hear a parent doing the count knowing full well they are just going to count again till they snap and take their kid out of sight to beat the tar out of them. Or they end up on an Amber alert.
Kim with all due respect, she didn't miss the point. She has the RIGHT idea.

Kellie, sweetie, you are an idiot.

Have spanked in public…cops agreed with me. Told interfering idiot to step off. The punishment was justified as my boys decided to beat the tar out of each other in the grocery store and were a danger to others. Store manager gave me a gift certificate and said loudly that he wished more people would control their "little darlings" in his store. My boys had to sweep his floors for two weeks also. Embarass me and destroy property….nope!

Alexis Brimhall -Your Mom and Dad raised a wonderful young person and you and they should be proud! Keep your head up- you will be a leader.

James Vanhoosier -different kids have different needs. you are lucky.

Taylor Johannesen -Are you a parent?

James Ridings -Who were you responding to sir because I got lost in your animal kingdom rant?

A child needs to be corrected. In a public place the parent can use a stern quiet voice to make their point. If the child is young and throwing a fit, a meltdown, take the chilld to the restroom to correct the child and let the child calm down. Depending on the cause of the incident, the child may need a pop on the backside. Parents need to watch their tone when correcting their child in public. Take a breath and calm themselves to use this correction as a teachable moment of consequences.

Bullsh#t! Are you a parent…have you EVER tried to reason with a strong willed 3 year old? Try it and then drop a line from the hospital for the criminally insane when you tip your wagon over…..LMAO!!!!!!

Linda, when my boys were smaller, they knew that I would warm their backsides in restaurants/stores. I think a little fear of Mama went a long way.

All I know is I have a well behaved child, because I did use 'swift obedience' as you call it, at an early age. And (despite what you say) I have earned my child's respect and they know I mean business even when they hear me say just 'one'. And there is no reason to 'count again' til the parent snaps, and I want to make it clear I do not snap and 'beat' the tar out of my child later because I count. and If I'm in a store you better believe if I got to three, the spank will happen right then and there. And because my child KNOWS that, they stop the behavior at just one, and incident over. Everyone parents different, all I know is this works for me and my family. 'Swift obedience' at an early age, and once old enough to understand, they get warnings to try to make the right choice themselves. And honestly i'm not sure I understand your comment about an 'Amber alert'? What, because I give my child a warning before spanking they are more likely to be kidnapped?

I see your point and there are plenty of people who were hit as kids and they turned out fine and visa versa. I just can't imagine using violence aganst anyone especially someone I love most in this world, my children!!! you are not being honest to yourself by saying there is a difference between hitting and spanking, they are the same. I'm done with this debate, I wish you luck and thank you for a great conversation!!!

I went to Disney World for a week with a family that had three children. Two of their children in public would be hitting, kicking and screaming every day I was with them, no matter what their parents did. And I'd try to break it up and get the kicks and hits myself. Then I had the privilege of having my father babysit them shortly after this occasion with their behavior and being there the entire two weeks. This behavior took one pop on the back side and an hour in their room and I never saw them behave that way ever again.

My son would run his mouth to my father and I'd do the modern methods with him and it never stopped it. My dad would tell me not to come. But I did any way and my son mouthed my father while there and one spank on the backside was all it took to never behave that way to him again. Now, he likes my dad and wants to do stuff with him. He never wants to leave when we are there because he doesn't mouth my dad and he's more enjoyable to be around.

I have all these witnesses plus the majority of those on this post as witness that this is the way to go!

I just asked my son if felt that I spanked a lot. His answer was only when I deserved it! My son is 34…his brother is 41 this year. He has worked hard at everything to care for his family and learned a trade. BUT I couldn't have "talk them into discipline. " They are respectful, loving men….and yes when they grew up the manner of discipline changed…Listen you take their tv, video games, internet and computer, Basically depending how severe the problem is. Striping their room of all their possessions……..Then I made them earn it back! But I did give them a lot of joy, love, adventurers, learning about dinosaurs, going zoos, traveled on the weekends to new places we hadn't seen before….etc. So life was balanced.

No a warning is good but mine were trained to be told ONE time as I was. I was referring to the people who count over and over with no consequence. I myself want to beat the tar out of those distracted, self center people who should have been nutered a puberty. I am sorry if I offended you since you are a proactive parent who I am sure has a good kid.

And you are correct about not always having to spank. My children learned that I meant what I said and spanking were not necessary except in extreme cases after that. As they grew up, taking freedom was much more effective.

maybe if you had spanked them when they were younger, you wouldn't have to punch them in the mouth as adults?

I agree, spanking should be used only for extreme moments; then it will be more memorable to them and more effective. I raised my daughters this way and my granddaughter the same. I did not have to spank but a few times.
As someone that worked in daycares and preschools we couldn't spank the children and I found that other methods were just as effective.
When you spank a child it must be to truly as a learning tool and not out of anger and I have seen many parents spank out of their own anger. I believe this only teaches the child to grow up thinking that when they are angry that they also can strike out.

The one thing that I want more than anything is for my son to be known by how I know him to be since I'm around him much more than others and see the kid he is. And not how my dad knew him to be. I always tell him that he's learning and I'm learning also because lucky kid, he's the first.

it is all about proper dicipline, there is nothing wrong with a spanking but getting beat is… padding on the rear end is the best place or a lil slap on the hand. but to be punched, hair pulled caused to be hurt does not need to be done… it is abuse that causes people to have "issues" but not mental disorders…. but any more who doesn't need some medication to help them anny more.. so I don't think spankings cause mental dissorders it is our world that needs to change.

I was spanked as a child. My children get spanked. Not in public. I try not to discipline then outright in front of people. Its important to me not to embarass them, even if they are embarassing me. I will get down on their level and calmly tell them in their ear, that if they don't straighten up, we WILL take a trip to the restroom. They don't get swatted often. And its usually only one swat. Time outs and restrictions are usually sufficient, but not always. I got spanked. And I deserved it. My kids get spanked and they know respect. Just sayin.

I was spanked as a child. My children get spanked. Not in public. I try not to discipline then outright in front of people. Its important to me not to embarass them, even if they are embarassing me. I will get down on their level and calmly tell them in their ear, that if they don't straighten up, we WILL take a trip to the restroom. They don't get swatted often. And its usually only one swat. Time outs and restrictions are usually sufficient, but not always. I got spanked. And I deserved it. My kids get spanked and they know respect. Just sayin.

I didn't have to spank all the time either and the punishment fit the crime . I also did not tell my children over and over to stop. I didn't spank in anger and I did not enjoy it. That being said I do knoe it works anf=d we all have people who we don't want tround because of their bratty, out of control kids. I want to beat the parents because they are inflicting their brats on us.

My computer is messing up so sorry for typos earlier. The bottom line is these permissive idiots who have no children so they don't count or the touchy feely idiots who should have beeb nuetered at birth make me ill and are full of shit.

I am the mother of two, grandmother of two, and child and family therapist and children do not need to be spanked in public or in private in order to learn a lesson. There are any number of alternative actions to teach consequences and these alternatives do not put fear into children. I want children to know consequences as a way of learning; not learn fear as a way to stop a behavior. Violence, and spanking is violent, teaches fear only and resentment.

Wow!!!!

What are you personally going to do Natalie when your child or children do not respond to talking and time outs? As I stated in my previous post I agree they have their place and I do believe that a swat on the behind to get their attention when all other avenues have failed is quite the appropriate action. I am not speaking of beating a child, but a swat will do the trick. What are you going to do Natalie when you place this responsibility on your child and they don't accept it???

thats right

Amen

hitting all hitting no matter how min or is always wrong. f you dont hit people and chilren are people too. there are always better ways.

hitting all hitting no matter how min or is always wrong. f you dont hit people and chilren are people too. there are always better ways.

Dr. Drew talks spanking, mental illness study
http://www.hlntv.com

Studies show you are wrong spanking does not work and causes your child damage. End of story your child your problem. If you dont love your own child enough to not hurt them then you have issues, I treat my children as I treat every member in my family with respect and here is the funny thing they are close to perfect children so dont be stupid ok people get real gezzz. Read a book.

Chid Abuse is a crime but spanking is not even though it causes proven harm to children.Sad it is just sad.That we still have people who say I spanked my children and they are fine or I was spanked as a child and I am ok.When you know better you do better.I think tough love is good for children but hitting them is not the answer.

FYI If you leave a mark on a child while hitting them it is a crime that you can serve jail time for and maybe even get your child taken away by the state.Is it realy worth the risk?

Dr. Drew talks spanking, mental illness study
http://www.hlntv.com

Studies show you are wrong spanking does not work and causes your child damage. End of story your child your problem. If you dont love your own child enough to not hurt them then you have issues, I treat my children as I treat every member in my family with respect and here is the funny thing they are close to perfect children so dont be stupid ok people get real gezzz. Read a book.

Chid Abuse is a crime but spanking is not even though it causes proven harm to children.Sad it is just sad.That we still have people who say I spanked my children and they are fine or I was spanked as a child and I am ok.When you know better you do better.I think tough love is good for children but hitting them is not the answer.

FYI If you leave a mark on a child while hitting them it is a crime that you can serve jail time for and maybe even get your child taken away by the state.Is it realy worth the risk?

Dr. Drew talks spanking, mental illness study
http://www.hlntv.com

Studies show you are wrong spanking does not work and causes your child damage. End of story your child your problem. If you dont love your own child enough to not hurt them then you have issues, I treat my children as I treat every member in my family with respect and here is the funny thing they are close to perfect children so dont be stupid ok people get real gezzz. Read a book.

Chid Abuse is a crime but spanking is not even though it causes proven harm to children.Sad it is just sad.That we still have people who say I spanked my children and they are fine or I was spanked as a child and I am ok.When you know better you do better.I think tough love is good for children but hitting them is not the answer.

FYI If you leave a mark on a child while hitting them it is a crime that you can serve jail time for and maybe even get your child taken away by the state.Is it realy worth the risk?

Dr. Drew talks spanking, mental illness study
http://www.hlntv.com

Studies show you are wrong spanking does not work and causes your child damage. End of story your child your problem. If you dont love your own child enough to not hurt them then you have issues, I treat my children as I treat every member in my family with respect and here is the funny thing they are close to perfect children so dont be stupid ok people get real gezzz. Read a book.

Chid Abuse is a crime but spanking is not even though it causes proven harm to children.Sad it is just sad.That we still have people who say I spanked my children and they are fine or I was spanked as a child and I am ok.When you know better you do better.I think tough love is good for children but hitting them is not the answer.

FYI If you leave a mark on a child while hitting them it is a crime that you can serve jail time for and maybe even get your child taken away by the state.Is it realy worth the risk?

Dr. Drew talks spanking, mental illness study
http://www.hlntv.com

Studies show you are wrong spanking does not work and causes your child damage. End of story your child your problem. If you dont love your own child enough to not hurt them then you have issues, I treat my children as I treat every member in my family with respect and here is the funny thing they are close to perfect children so dont be stupid ok people get real gezzz. Read a book.

Chid Abuse is a crime but spanking is not even though it causes proven harm to children.Sad it is just sad.That we still have people who say I spanked my children and they are fine or I was spanked as a child and I am ok.When you know better you do better.I think tough love is good for children but hitting them is not the answer.

FYI If you leave a mark on a child while hitting them it is a crime that you can serve jail time for and maybe even get your child taken away by the state.Is it realy worth the risk?

Dr. Drew talks spanking, mental illness study
http://www.hlntv.com

Studies show you are wrong spanking does not work and causes your child damage. End of story your child your problem. If you dont love your own child enough to not hurt them then you have issues, I treat my children as I treat every member in my family with respect and here is the funny thing they are close to perfect children so dont be stupid ok people get real gezzz. Read a book.

Chid Abuse is a crime but spanking is not even though it causes proven harm to children.Sad it is just sad.That we still have people who say I spanked my children and they are fine or I was spanked as a child and I am ok.When you know better you do better.I think tough love is good for children but hitting them is not the answer.

FYI If you leave a mark on a child while hitting them it is a crime that you can serve jail time for and maybe even get your child taken away by the state.Is it realy worth the risk?

Dr. Drew talks spanking, mental illness study
http://www.hlntv.com

Studies show you are wrong spanking does not work and causes your child damage. End of story your child your problem. If you dont love your own child enough to not hurt them then you have issues, I treat my children as I treat every member in my family with respect and here is the funny thing they are close to perfect children so dont be stupid ok people get real gezzz. Read a book.

Chid Abuse is a crime but spanking is not even though it causes proven harm to children.Sad it is just sad.That we still have people who say I spanked my children and they are fine or I was spanked as a child and I am ok.When you know better you do better.I think tough love is good for children but hitting them is not the answer.

FYI If you leave a mark on a child while hitting them it is a crime that you can serve jail time for and maybe even get your child taken away by the state.Is it realy worth the risk?

Dr. Drew talks spanking, mental illness study
http://www.hlntv.com

Studies show you are wrong spanking does not work and causes your child damage. End of story your child your problem. If you dont love your own child enough to not hurt them then you have issues, I treat my children as I treat every member in my family with respect and here is the funny thing they are close to perfect children so dont be stupid ok people get real gezzz. Read a book.

Chid Abuse is a crime but spanking is not even though it causes proven harm to children.Sad it is just sad.That we still have people who say I spanked my children and they are fine or I was spanked as a child and I am ok.When you know better you do better.I think tough love is good for children but hitting them is not the answer.

FYI If you leave a mark on a child while hitting them it is a crime that you can serve jail time for and maybe even get your child taken away by the state.Is it realy worth the risk?

Dr. Drew talks spanking, mental illness study
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Studies show you are wrong spanking does not work and causes your child damage. End of story your child your problem. If you dont love your own child enough to not hurt them then you have issues, I treat my children as I treat every member in my family with respect and here is the funny thing they are close to perfect children so dont be stupid ok people get real gezzz. Read a book.

Chid Abuse is a crime but spanking is not even though it causes proven harm to children.Sad it is just sad.That we still have people who say I spanked my children and they are fine or I was spanked as a child and I am ok.When you know better you do better.I think tough love is good for children but hitting them is not the answer.

FYI If you leave a mark on a child while hitting them it is a crime that you can serve jail time for and maybe even get your child taken away by the state.Is it realy worth the risk?

My boys are too and yet no hitting it is a miracle lol
Dr. Drew talks spanking, mental illness study
http://www.hlntv.com

Studies show you are wrong spanking does not work and causes your child damage. End of story your child your problem. If you dont love your own child enough to not hurt them then you have issues, I treat my children as I treat every member in my family with respect and here is the funny thing they are close to perfect children so dont be stupid ok people get real gezzz. Read a book.

Chid Abuse is a crime but spanking is not even though it causes proven harm to children.Sad it is just sad.That we still have people who say I spanked my children and they are fine or I was spanked as a child and I am ok.When you know better you do better.I think tough love is good for children but hitting them is not the answer.

FYI If you leave a mark on a child while hitting them it is a crime that you can serve jail time for and maybe even get your child taken away by the state.Is it realy worth the risk?

My boys are too and yet no hitting it is a miracle lol
Dr. Drew talks spanking, mental illness study
http://www.hlntv.com

Studies show you are wrong spanking does not work and causes your child damage. End of story your child your problem. If you dont love your own child enough to not hurt them then you have issues, I treat my children as I treat every member in my family with respect and here is the funny thing they are close to perfect children so dont be stupid ok people get real gezzz. Read a book.

Chid Abuse is a crime but spanking is not even though it causes proven harm to children.Sad it is just sad.That we still have people who say I spanked my children and they are fine or I was spanked as a child and I am ok.When you know better you do better.I think tough love is good for children but hitting them is not the answer.

FYI If you leave a mark on a child while hitting them it is a crime that you can serve jail time for and maybe even get your child taken away by the state.Is it realy worth the risk?

Tell your story to the thousands of abused women each year .OMG You people are something special maybe brain damage was caused by your spankings lol

Dr. Drew talks spanking, mental illness study
http://www.hlntv.com

Studies show you are wrong spanking does not work and causes your child damage. End of story your child your problem. If you dont love your own child enough to not hurt them then you have issues, I treat my children as I treat every member in my family with respect and here is the funny thing they are close to perfect children so dont be stupid ok people get real gezzz. Read a book.

Chid Abuse is a crime but spanking is not even though it causes proven harm to children.Sad it is just sad.That we still have people who say I spanked my children and they are fine or I was spanked as a child and I am ok.When you know better you do better.I think tough love is good for children but hitting them is not the answer.

FYI If you leave a mark on a child while hitting them it is a crime that you can serve jail time for and maybe even get your child taken away by the state.Is it realy worth the risk?

Tell your story to the thousands of abused women each year .OMG You people are something special maybe brain damage was caused by your spankings lol

Dr. Drew talks spanking, mental illness study
http://www.hlntv.com

Studies show you are wrong spanking does not work and causes your child damage. End of story your child your problem. If you dont love your own child enough to not hurt them then you have issues, I treat my children as I treat every member in my family with respect and here is the funny thing they are close to perfect children so dont be stupid ok people get real gezzz. Read a book.

Chid Abuse is a crime but spanking is not even though it causes proven harm to children.Sad it is just sad.That we still have people who say I spanked my children and they are fine or I was spanked as a child and I am ok.When you know better you do better.I think tough love is good for children but hitting them is not the answer.

FYI If you leave a mark on a child while hitting them it is a crime that you can serve jail time for and maybe even get your child taken away by the state.Is it realy worth the risk?

I did not spank in anger and my children are successful adults. My way worked as it did for my parents and grandparents. I don't need some talking head psychologist who has no experience to tell me anything. My children are not damaged and are respectful people who I do and did respect as children. I am the parent and it is my responsibility to teach. If you really believe your way works the bully for you. Please do not try to tell me how your way works and I wish you well and hope all that extreme tolerance you are advocating doesn't lead to more crazy violence in our schools because that is what happens when kids raise themselves.

Dr Drew is an idiot!

Seeing how many times you posted this I can only surmise that you are mentally ill or a spamming. Either way you are an idiot…just saying.

Linda Harrison ..you are a bully..I raised 3 children never put my hands on them and they are all good decent adults .so put that in your pipe and smoke it. also my 4 brother and 3 sisters were never spanked….I just gave my opinion you don't have to be so nasty..maybe you need another spanking

Linda Harrison ..you are a bully..I raised 3 children never put my hands on them and they are all good decent adults .so put that in your pipe and smoke it. also my 4 brother and 3 sisters were never spanked….I just gave my opinion you don't have to be so nasty..maybe you need another spanking

That the way to go my mother did and my father that what they need