Obama Attacks Job Creators Owners During Roanoke Speech: ‘If You’ve Got A Business, You Didn’t Build That’

LOL……Unbelievable…

elizabeth warren did it better!

The excerpts here are just designed to make Obama look bad. The "job creators" are NOT creating new job, at least not here in the U.S. Company profits are at record high levels! Where is the trickle down. Either start creating new jobs or pay more taxes. Your choice "job creators." You have to give back one way or the other.

You have to be a complete moron to interpret what Obama said in this way. He's saying what most of us know to be the truth…if you are rich, you didn't get there by yourself. DUH. But thank you, Tara Dodrill, for announcing that you are an asshole with nothing worthwhile to say by posting a picture of Obama with Rev. Wright above an article that has nothing whatsoever to do with Rev. Wright.

Jumping on one little mis phrasing. Typical to take the whole speech out of context typical Republican dishonesty. Instead of the Huckabee reportshould call it the Lieabee report.

Obama is a retard.

Of course Obama doesn't like them, they work and pay taxes!

so Allen Y is the president quote on quote a retard? And BTW because of lovely president Bush we are at a time of war so any degrading comments towards the president is technically considered treason… Just saying:)

It may have been taken out of context or he may have just said it in a way that hurt someones feelings. But it is still the truth. It isn't the truth candy coated to make everyone feel better about themselves. No company built itself. There are roads, bridges, mail, police, firefighters and EMTs,. just to name a few of the services provided by paying taxes and without which you would not have a company. Corporations want to make all the profit and put the work and tax burden on the 98%. I am sure he could have said it better. Oh well.

From the president's perspective, he's being completely accurate: he didn't do anything to earn his presidency!

Beau…that's F-retarted…tell you what ….start your own company and find out just how hard it is. Sign the dotted line, risk your name, your future, your money, take responsibility, expose yourself to liability… Find the money, financing, customers, accounts and the backing on your own….while you keep from getting gang raped by the government. If you fail ….blame it on Bush ….if you succeed give praise and all your profits to the government that built the bridge downtown and public toilet on the corner. BTW….My great grandfather invented the wheel 5000 years ago ….your using it now and I would like you to pay your share. This was not about the "people" its about Obama. Its not working anymore.

Aren't you forgetting all the companies that were inherited? So many silver spoon fed "kids" inherited theri grandfathers, fathers business……tell me they built it with blood, sweat, and tears !

Ernest OBAMA IS A POLITICIAN – HE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND BUSINESS – AT ALL. Allen did not say anything about BUSH. I thought Bush was a puppet and not a very good one…..OBAMA IS JUST A POLITICIAN TAKING ADVANTAGE OF YOU AND YOUR IGNORANCE. This was not about the "PEOPLE" ….its all about "OBAMA". His pole numbers "SUCK", he has nothing to run on after the last 3.5 years, his track record sucks, and he it dividing the county. He is trying to get you mad so you will vote for him – this is called recharging the "BASE". Its a big joke….BTW ….It would be treason if we were in England in the 15th century. (reason why they left the country)

The truth? The truth is that the government doesn't pay for anything. The government doesn't generate cash, it just spends OUR money, or at least those of us who pay taxes. Roads, bridges, mail…all paid for by the taxpayers, not the government. And since half the citizens don't pay taxes at all, well…you do the math. Having started, owned and operated a business for 18 years, I can honestly say that the government gave me nothing except for regulations and tax bills. He could have said it better? He shouldn't have said it at all.

actually I brought up Bush because he is the reason we are at war, and because Allen made a degrading comment toward the president. And Jeff before making a statement make sure you know your bill of rights… I believe article 14 or 17 distinctively mentions that about a time of war. Obama's #'s are higher than anyone that ran from the republicans before it was dropped down to Romney. And if you watch Fox (Entertainment News) you would know that this president has accomplished more in office than any other president in the history of this country so please if your going to try and make an attempt to put me in my place make sure you have all your information to be accurate… and yes we are at war and have been since 2001 and here's the article http://maxexchange.com/ybj/chapter9.htm
curious to you try to come back at that 1… chow!

spoken like a true teabager Jeff… wake up and realize the the problem is with congress and not the president!

Couldn't agree with you more, Pamela.

LOL….call me what you want ….Like I said …..Start your own company ….then come back and tell me about it…..

actually if you look at my name you will notice that I do and I understand it better than you'll ever dream of… BTW it's computer Repair

I'm not talking about home grown local business here. Not many of them are massive, stashing profits overseas, or outsourcing their employees. Neither are these home grown business in the top tax brackets getting massive tax breaks and loop holes. Protect the small business and fracture the massive ones. Bring it back home!

I did read it… several times….It does not matter really ….because Obama declared war on Libya without congressional approval……so put that to bed. Moreover, he does not enforce or protect anything….not even the country's borders. He is only worried about what his issues and how to sucker the ignorant folks to vote for him. Like I said —-gather up the courage …..start your own company ….then come talk to me ……

once again I have a business that I started 15 months ago so try again, so come again about gathering up currage . secondly Vietnam, and Korea were wars never approved by congress so like this whole convo you have no point other than the compelling need to bash the president which is treason. I swear I am listening to a fox news reporter… kinda lame

Jeff, Whats truly unbelievable is the number of absolute IDIOTS that are agreeing with this garbage. To the man that built a house with his own money, sweat and labor – YOU didn't build that house because someone else manufactured the materials (never mind that YOU paid for them)….To the man that built that Hot Rod in his garage piece by piece from the ground up – YOU didn't build it because YOU didn't manufacture those parts used (never mind that YOU paid for them). This is the most arrogant piece of steaming socialist SHIT I've ever heard come out of the mouth of a US president – a man who has NEVER even held a substantial JOB other than "Community Organizer", much less been directly involved in building a successful business.

LOL…actually I look at the policy and the impact it will have on society and speak from experience – I'm a financial analyst. Vietnam was a "Conflict" not a war….. 50 years ago. FOX CNN and ABC are all toy poodles for the candidates. Lets stay focused. You're just mad and frustrated but you still think he speaks to you ……even after the GE fiasco, GM and Solyndra and the BEER SUMMIT. I trash the president because he just trashed my hard work – he earned it. He just told us small businesses don't do anything for society…..small business and rich people need to give more….that small business got help and working people didn't ….I don't know about you but the government didn't help me with anything. I dreamed it, I developed it, I gathered my resources, I used my intelligence, I used my money and I hired people, when things got bad I took responsibility, a lot of times I did not take home a paycheck but everyone else was paid. I made it happen…..with no safety net….only to hand over 50% of my profit and told I need to give more? Like 38% was not enough? ….Those government servants can Kiss my white A$$……..Small business is the life blood of this country and if you don't think so …..there are other counties in Europe that have what your looking for like Spain, Greece, Russia, England…just to name a few.

Then there you go ….you know computers…..not finance.

i do know fiances because I do everything myself but what do you know about running a business. BTW computers are the wave of the future and without then you couldn't do much… Then again you sound like the type of person who had everything handed down to you and before you decide to run your mouth I work 60+ hours per week plus finishing up my degree. I could be wrong but whatever

So…How many employees do you have now, and how many more are you going to hire, now that your leader has ordered you to do so?

So…How many employees do you have now, and how many more are you going to hire, now that your leader has ordered you to do so?

He is not saying anything about the "government". His comments stated that no business was built without outside help. And I am pretty sure he was speaking to the major corporations that have big time lawyers finding every loophole to keep them from paying taxes.

Ernest, Your statements regarding treason (and Vietnam/Korea) are pure crap. There is no "article 14 or 17". The 14th AMENDMENT addresses citizenship rights (of freed slaves), and the 17th made senators elected by popular vote (prior to that they were appointed). Treason is specifically mentioned in Article 3, section 3 :
"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted."

Key word in that first sentence is "only". Look the word up if you're not sure what it means. Levying War – like the so-called "American Taliban" did was an act of treason, and "Adhering to our Enemies" like Jane Fonda did in Vietnam was also an act of treason. Bashing the president never has been and never will be "treason" in any form whatsoever. Its called FREEDOM OF SPEECH, and the constitution protects it, dumbass.

Perhaps you should try actually reading the document:
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A3Sec3
before telling some else to do so. Because that statement made you look like a complete moron (Reading it might open your eyes). The "Bill of Rights" which you clearly are NOT familiar with consists of the first ten amendments. They specifically address protected rights of the citizens of the united states. The rest of the amendments are just that – amendments or changes to the original document. When I was in Jr High, every child had to learn these things regarding our government and our constitution, before they could attend High School. We had to take a 'constitution test' in order to graduate from the 8th grade. Sadly, that is no longer a requirement in our schools, to the detriment of our country. An ignorant citizenry is an easily misled citizenry.

Vietnam and Korea were both authorized by congress – they were not "Declarations of War", but congress specifically authorized the use of military force. In fact, shortly after LBJ initially sent forces to Vietnam, congress reaffirmed their exclusive right to authorize the use of the military with the "War Powers Act", which forbade the president from sending troops anywhere for more than 90 days without congressional approval.

I sincerely hope (for your customers sake) that you are more informed about computer technology, than you are about our government and constitution….

Not that big yet and when I do it will be family. being it's going to be family ran but I perfer to keep just family but if I have to hire outside the family then I would aquire from an employment agency… but right now I am just a sole propritorship

actually yes there is Norm.. At a time of war it is considered to be treason to in any way shape and form to undermined your commander and chief and can be punishable by the government. I know this because I got into this argument about a year ago on facebook where someone brought that up so yes it;s legit and yes it is real. Vietnam and Korea is not crap it's true it was a conflict and wasn't considered a war until many years later afterward to give to honorable Americans the ability to receive benefits from the war… Please do research before opening your mouth and finally all I have to say is ignorance is bliss.

Jeff Hamann – Ernest knows that he is successful only because someone else did it for him.

Jeff Hamann – Ernest knows that he is successful only because someone else did it for him.

"Mis phrasing" (your term) seems to be a habit with the man who never ran a business but who claims to know how those of us who do should run ours.

Not getting into that amendment thing. But will comment on the Libya thing calling that a declared war is straight out nonsense and just a total biased reach from people who dont like Obama with no basis in fact what so ever. Ernest is quite correct about the Korean war and Vietnam. Where even though we had Americans on the ground fighting and dieing it was called a policing action and not a declared congress approved war . If you dont like history oh well it is what it is. Of course you can always join the Tea Party and be bliissfully ignorant enough to beleive what you want. The Libya thing was strictly a military air operation with no boots on the ground. Military operations are going on all around the war regularly most on a smaller scale but otherwise the same and all without congressional approval this is nothing new! The only thing new is the hatred prejudice aimed our present president. Jeff Hamann if you were not a financial anayist I would consider you possibly mistaken but since you are you must be a flat out liar. With the tax code what it is and the breaks and loop holes given by the government there is no way in HeLL YOU PAID 38% IN TAXES tell that bullshit to other tea party members they might…. might be ignorant enough to beleive it!

Uhh. NO, THERE ISN'T(Why do I feel like Waddo negotiating with Quigon-Jin? I'm immune to your Jedi Mind tricks…). I just linked the fricking document, moron. Are you seriously this dense? There is no "article 14 or 17" in the Constitution. There are 7 Articles in the Constitution and 27 amendments. The first ten amendments are known as the "Bill of rights". Maybe you are thinking of the UCMJ (Uniform code of Military Justice)? There is indeed an Article 14 and Article 17 in the UCMJ, but sadly (for you) neither has any thing to do with treason. Article 14 has to do with delivering a military person to civilian authorities. Article 17 defines the Jurisdiction of Courts-Martial. There is in fact no article of the UCMJ which covers treason. It is only mentioned in one place in the UCMJ – article 106 – Espionage. This article basically says that the death penalty may apply if the accused has also been convicted of treason where the death penalty or life sentence applies by statute. BTW – Statute refers to CIVILIAN law. So if a military member is convicted of Treason and sentenced to life, if he is also found guilty of espionage at a court-martial, he can be sentenced to death.

Treason is VERY SPECIFICALLY defined in the US Constitution, Article III section 3. There is a very good REASON that treason was defined in the constitution so specifically. In the late 18th century, in England it was quite common for any one who spoke out against the Crown (King George III) to be charged with treason and publicly hung. Their families were usually disinherited and stripped of all property as well. That's the reason for the restriction against "corruption of Blood". The founders wished our country to not be subject to such despotism and specifically defined what constituted treason under our government. Its spelled out there all in black and white and in relatively small two and three syllable words. You *should* be able to grasp it.

Now you stated "At a time of war it is considered to be treason to in any way shape and form to undermined your commander and chief and can be punishable by the government"

Firstly its "Commander-in-Chief" – Article II Section 2, first sentence. Get it right, dummy. Secondly, if you will continue reading, it says "…of the Army and Navy of the United States…" Note that it does *not* mention the civilian populace. The President is NOT my 'commander-in-chief', not since I left the military in 1989. Nor is he yours or Allen's or Jeff's, since they are not in the military. And no,what you describe is not treason, it is insubordination (Article 89 and 91) and it applies to members of the military . Again get it right, dummy.

Now about Vietnam and Korea. Apparently you are not even smart enough to scroll up and re-read your own comments, because what you *originally* stated was that "Vietnam, and Korea were wars never approved by congress…" then you go on to completely disagree with yourself when you said "…it was a conflict and wasn't considered a war…" So… which is it Einstein? Because those two statements are not the same at all! Now I suggest you scroll up and Re-read what I said…Never mind, I will just copy and paste it because I 'm not sure you can figure it out on your own. Here is what I said :
"Vietnam and Korea were both authorized by congress – they were not "Declarations of War", but congress specifically authorized the use of military force."

There were votes in congress to authorize the use of force but no official declaration of war – it was considered an 'international police action'. I suggest you look up "War Powers Act". It was passed specifically to reaffirm congress' right to authorize the use of the military. It was passed shortly after Johnson first sent troops in without consulting Congress, which later approved the action. INITIALLY, there was not congressional approval, but they DID approve it *shortly* after it began and not "many years later afterward". I really don't know where you are coming up with some of this nonsense. This stuff is really easy to look up. You ever hear of this thing called Google? Thought not…

You are the one that needs to do some research. You must be very blissful.

BTW, "Research" does not consist of regurgitating comments by nutjobs on Daily KOS and Huffington Post.

Really? and what EXACTLY is the 'mis-phrasing' you are referring to? What phrase did he mis-speak that we are all upset about?

LOL – Do you think you are Quigon Jin waving his hand? I must be Waddo then. No, They are NOT. I am immune to mind tricks. I posted a link to the actual document. What you claim is simply not there, never has been, never will be. I referred you to actual documents and you refer to "an argument you had on facebook a year ago"????

LOL!! That's funny.

I had a much longer and detailed post but Inquisitr ate it…

The other stuff is easily looked up. What you claim simply is not TRUE. Get used to it. Have you heard of this thing called Google? …I thought not.

BTW, research does not simply consist of regurgitating comment made by nutjobs on Daily KOS, Huffington Post and Facebook.

LOL – What fantasy world are you living in? He made it perfectly clear who he was speaking to – small business. If you could not figure that out, well….SMH

Typical republican? Not that I am one, but you are as inept as the clown in office! This entire machine was built and put into motion by the middle class, only to have it swindled away by greedy elitests, all while destroying the same class that built it! Atop of that, they tax us to death to give lazy fuckers like you, our hard earned money! Democrats are worthy of the death penalty. There was a time when I shared belief in policies from both sides of the aisle. Today, it is two poisonous heads on the same snake!

your not worth my time and BTW I know what Google is. I use them for web hosting doubt you have any conception on what a web host is… I run my business from a Rooted Galaxy Nexus running CM9-RC1 custom rom A Google android phone you know the mobile linux OS and BTW please look it up because you obviously din't spend any time to research. so I will try to simplify this for the last time. AT A TIME OF WAR IT IS CONSIDERED TREASON TO DISGRACE YOUR COMMANDER AND CHIEF AT A TIME OF WAR AND WE ARE AT WAR THANKS TO GEORGE BUSH WHO SOLD THIS COUNTRY TO THE CHINESE BACK IN 2007, BUT THEN AGAIN YOU KNEW THAT BECAUSE YOUR A SMART MAN OR SO YOU HOPE CHOW GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR LIFE YOUR GOING TO NEED IT SON… BTW i got to have some knowledge about computers I maintained 3.5 GPA while working 60+ hours per week so stop watching fox news(fake-made up news) and maybe you might learn something

LOL – you are certainly funny. Saying something over and over does not make it true. Show me SOME kind of reference for your specious 'treason' claim and you might gain some credibility. Until you do that, you are nothing but a squalling child. I won't hold my breath though…

LOL@ your Google hosting! I USED to use web hosting until I learned to host my OWN site on my own server using static IP addresses and a Java based web server. I also had a dedicated Linux based TeamSpeak server on my network for my guildies back when I played GuildWars. They got tired of the poor performance from their rented server.

I don't play with smart phones – I got more powerful toys:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/205886_10150743808000109_845337_n.jpg
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/198929_10150141525666489_6405134_n.jpg

Sonny boy, don't try to impress me with your grades. I was building computers when you were still sucking at your mommas titty. I didn't learn how by attending an overpriced school and paying someone a sackload of money for the privilege, I taught myself. I built every computer I've owned, plus a hell of a lot of others. Currently teaching myself C and C++, just for the heck of it.

Hope you enjoy paying for those student loans.I got my my education for free courtesy of Uncle Sam and the US Navy – back when we had a REAL president. But we'll have a real one again soon enough….

He was saying they did nt do it by themselves that they had help . They had infrastructure already in place that helped and allowed them to succeed. Largly that infastructure was put in place and maintained by the government. Which is nothing but the truth! It is what it is!

Norm Higgs I will not get in the amenment thing . But as for Libya calling it a war is pure nonsense. The Korea and Vietnam were called policing actions even though we had Americans on the ground fighting and dieing by the thousands in both without congressional aproval. Libya was a military action ( strictly air support) like many others perhaps a little larger than most but other wise no different than what goes on all the time. So calling it a undeclared war is nothing but a lot of biasede bullshit simply because you dont like the man and dont have enough morals to care what lie you tell. This is my second and lesser attempt at this post the Inquisitor ate my first one as well! that is why I usually dont post on here!

Yea Bruce you probably right he has only ran the greatest Country in the world for almost 4yrs now. A country that employees millions and millions of workers and payrolls in the billions. How dare he presume to tell a financial / business wizard like yourself how to run anything. He should be bowing to your superior business annacranim and letting you tell him how to run things instead of the other way around! OHH BY THE WAY JUST HOW SUCCESSFULL ARE YOU AND HOW BIG EXACTLY IS YOUR BUSINESS.

He just told the truth and it is a statement to how spoiled the people in this country are by what all the government does for them that your on here crying about a man telling you the truth! Waaaaahhhhhh!

That's rich. You are singing the praises of a political hack whose administration is so inept that it can't formulate economic policies to get unemployment at U3 below 8.2 percent and below 15 percent at U6; whose administration has run up $6 trillion in debt over 3.5 years; whose administration has increased the regulatory burden on business to the point at which the cost of compliance is the highest and capital formation is the the lowest in my lifetime; whose administration runs firearms unmonitored to drug gangs in Mexico. Shall I go on? About my business – I am consulting geologist. I count mining companies and oil companies as my clients and I so a great deal of work directing and managing water-resource development programs in Africa. What do you do, Mr. South Leake High School graduate?

Ill tell you what i dont do i dont get on the internet and post lies for facts. Show me the reulations that have been enacted under Obama that are destroying businesses. The unemployment rate and other economic problems are primarily due to the state it was left in by the failed right wing policies of the previous adminstration. You cant dig all the way out of a hole that took 8 yrs to dig, in 3 1/2 especially when the same morons that dug it keep filibustering you back in it. But hey I under stand a dog like you sucking on the teats of big oil would not want to lose all those give aways from the governm,ent that the repugs protect for their owners the 1% so I cant blame you for spreading their lives go ahead protect your little easy ride but dont expect middle class folks like myself help you. We not may not all be as smart as you are but were not all as dumb as you think we are iether.

Bruce, the left will always look at things with the same distorted view. Positive change has not been on the agenda for many years, to be certyain. Obama's plot to hand over our sovereignty to the UN/NWO is constitutional treason, to say the least, yet the Obama supporters think he's doing a great job. When the last of our liberties sounds it's death rattle, who are these co-dependants going to turn to? US.

The excerpts aren't designed to make Zero look bad. He does a stellar job of that every time he lets his far-to-the-left-of-center ideology out of the bag.

Danny, a shockingly large number of people on the Left are so thoroughly out of touch with the business world that they espouse inane perspectives on what it takes to start and manage any kind of commercial enterprise anywhere. What Zero said to his slobbering admirers in Roanoke should not have come as a surprise to any Conservative. He is openly laying the groundwork to argue that everything we are or are capable of becoming is only possible because of government. Ultimately, ee wants all of us to cede control of our lives to people who know better or think that they do (that is, to him and his left-wing cronies).

Pamela – you must have learned your economics in the public school system. Corporations pay a bewildering array of taxes – starting with taxes on income. They also pay salaries to people who also pay income taxes and other taxes. It is the income (and taxes on that income) generated by the private sector that pays for government and its many boondoggles. Government does not generate income. It takes from one group of people and then distributes the loot to others, ostensibly for the common good, but – more often than not – to promote hare-brained notions of equity and fairness.

And if Zero succeeds, will he say that someone else made it happen?

You mean "Faux-cohontas"

I agree. I am partnered in a non-profit organization FOR VETERANS, BY VETERANS. Thanks to political bylaws, I am no longer allowed to express my political view, for fear of retraction of funding! This just may be my last retort for the hind-tit dependant masses. I am a libertarian. I believe that our constitution is flawless. Thomas Jefferson and John Quincy Adams both warned us, and therefore added it to the preamble of the Declaration of Independance, "…and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed…" That describes many, but especially the democratic followers. I am prepared to bleed for the constitution to live again, but if the masses would just implement some semblance of common sense, and grow a pair, we could recover without a war. Keep up the fine fight, my friend! God bless you, and God bless America!

I see why you right wingers like it here the inquister loses all my best statements. come over to track 180 where its not biased like here and let's have a fair debate

Dee, we do not remove any comments from our system and our writers tend to be far more left leaning (take a look at many of our Romney, Christie and other articles). The only comments blocks involve swearing or acts of violence which Facebook comments removes, not us.

Your one comment was banned because you said "b*llshit" the other shouldn't have been FB highlighted "class" as "as*" for some odd reason, in any case they were both posted. The word "BS" typically goes through, but FB comments are sometimes odd.

I use those same words on track 180 regularly. Which is also on face book so if face book was stopping my comments it would there to. So hard for me to buy what you are saying.

@Dee Jolly Jr. Would you like a screencast that shows the highlighted words in the Facebook and the moderator que they were placed in. I would be happy to email you the proof. It should be noted that we use the standard Facebook blacklist, many sites have created their own lists (which I am in the process of creating).

James if that was the case why didn't you ban Allen Schuler comment on calling the president of this country a retard. Because I personally found it to be degrading so to ban someone for say a swear but you leave the comment that descraces our president of the United States is fine… sorry but I see a lot of biasness. So if you really are the moderator for this site at least handle the situation fairly or don't handle them at all. BTW if you feel the need to ban me for my honesty well that's your issue but the way you are acting is kinda juvenile and rides in turn with the right wing party that only things can be said that fit in with your demeanor

Dee Jolly Jr – Dee, facts are pesky little bastards, aren't they. I note that you completely ignored the unemployment stats (which can be downloaded from the US Dept of Labor website), and the out-of-control spending data (which can be obtained from the Congressional Budget Office). As for the regulatory burden, you'll have to get off your lazy ass and do a little digging. You might begin by talking with accountants who handle the books for firms that deal with the onslaught of punitive rules enacted during Obama's disastrous 3.5 years in office. I don't expect you to do that, however, because you do not seem to be the type who is curious enough to dig into such matters. You might run across "facts" that do not support your misguided perspective on economics. As for my association with my clients – one can hardly describe that as "sucking" at their teats. I beat them up regularly, but they appreciate the tough love. You, however, seem to have an affinity for government's bit teat, or perhaps its other sexual appendage. Get a job.

Ernest, as stated we only ban swearing and acts of threatened violence against other readers. By the way I'm about as left wing liberal as someone can be. If someone wants to call President Obama an idiot that is their choice. Personally I find those comments to actually benefit people on the other side of the argument as it makes the person leaving the comment sound like an unintelligent idiot who can't create an informed argument Also we didn't BAN anyone for swearing, Dee's comment was simply putting in a moderation que, we get thousands of comments a day and they are not always dealt with seconds after being posted.

Ernest DelMonico Oh I should add, when caught we will also delete comments that are racist or show direct outward hate based on race or sexual preference.

Ernest DelMonico Oh I should add, when caught we will also delete comments that are racist or show direct outward hate based on race or sexual preference.

And how am I acting juvenile? Do you know what that word means. I was blatantly honest with Dee about our policy and offered to show him how the system on our end blocks certain comments. Is it a perfect system? No of course not, but it is better than having threads full of idiots who just swear at each other repeatedly. One thing we pride ourselves on at IQ is our ability to allow for transparency in our comments section. My offer to show you how the backend filters out some comments that need manual approval still stands.

Then Why did you let the reference of degrading someone by calling them a retard stand. And it's juvenile because you leave a comment alone that is meant in a manor of disgracing a person and non the less the person who is the commander and chief of this country but I also find it extreamly disrespectful that your organization has yet to do anything about the comment yet. I find the reference of calling someone a retard versus saying the word BS so if your going to administer a website then I would advise you do it with complete edicateness and not solely based on vulgar language.

Ernest, I don't know how to say this any more plainly. That is not a threat of violence against someone, while it is not intelligent it's not grounds for dismissing a comment. We follow the same standard guidelines followed by HuffPost, NBC, even Fox News (which we know is not transparent) and various other platforms. We remove swear words because they affect search standings and we remove direct threats like "I'm going to kill you" because, well obviously there are safety issued. We will also remove words that attack someone based on race (N-Word for example).

Now if someone with downs syndrome was telling their story and someone called them a retard I would remove the comment, however calling the POTUS a retard just makes the commenting party sound like an idiot who can not form a valid argument based on the facts, surely you can agree with that point.

wow amazing nice double standard. And last I knew you were suppose to run your internet page off from internet etiquette, but what else should I expect from a bias website. BTW I find it offensive because I have a family members that has a mental lacking or basiclly the inability to full conceive certain things and the titlement that was give was listed as Mildly Mentally Retarded… And the word retard is demeaning, so for your site to leave a rude and demeaning comment up even if it's about someone that you don't like just shows how classless your site really is… I'm done with this BS and rhetoric

Right wing dude down here just used the word Bastards in a comment back to me. Yet you pulled mine for bullshit and another for the word class. Look I got no further beef with you it is what it is and even though from my end it doesnt look right. Hey I dont know . Will say this something needs fixing here. This is not my usual place to comment so will go back to sticking with my usual place and some point in the future will check this one out again and see if the issues have been addressed. No hard feelings on my end hope their is none on yours.
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James Johnson You will probably have to pull my actual reply to you out of the shredder to read it as I used both those two words again.

Dee don't feel bad he removed mine too because he didn't like what I had to say and I didn't even use any vulgarity

I already know what the employment numbers were. I have a job thanks and have never been on welfare in my life although I do not think that I built and paved the roads I ride on, or that I invented the internet that I am commenting on, I am not in denial that my way of life would be the same and certainly not better with out the government. Perhaps as it would seem your ego is so large you think that you could get by and accomplish the same without these things and perhaps do better without all the things the government has done for the people of this country. I am through commenting on this website as I dont care for the way they pull comments here they pulled two of mine for language and allowed yours above with a worse word in it than mine to go through so I wont be commenting here again for a while. Just one last question before I go. Did you steal those shades off a homeless a guy or what? I mean with your money I know you could do better than those!

I have not removed anything. The only thing hidden was our conversation on the main site because it had zero percent to do with the post.

Dee, why are you getting so frustrated? You ended your retort with a playground insult. Really? As far as your educated knowledge of unemployment stats, and lack of knowledge on constricting regulations, it appears that you CHOOSE what you believe in without research. I am sorry that an adult, such as yourself, can make it to being your age, convinced that our government has done good things for us. The beginning of our financial degradation began with GOVERNMENTAL decision to abolish the gold standard and give the financial reigns of America to the Federal reserve. Prior to 1978, every denomination on paper "money" also had clearly written PROMISORY NOTE. When Americans started realizing that our currency was merely an IOU REPRESENTING money, the Fed removed its legal description! Atop of this, all of America's gold was taken from Ft Knox and relocated to the Federal Reserve Bank in New York! JD Rockefeller and JP Morgan, amongst other founding members, created a vacuum. They now control America, as we are LOANED our own money back to us at an astronomical interest rate. The Federal Reserve is not even a department of our government. They are a PRIVATE BUSINESS! Wake up and pay attention to what's happening! As a middle classman, how can you accuse the right of the policies that you and the left created and promote? Your own side is intent on abolishing the middle class. That's you, me, Bruce up there, and millions of others. I see your intentions are not matching whom you support, yet you so adamantly stand for a policy that you clearly do not fully understand! Today, neither side of the aisle has a firm grip on the welfare of the American people. Why? Have you not heard lately, of THE FED and BIG POLITICS? The destruction of our nation has been executed greedily by The Fed. Our Big Politics represent the political puppets that have no real control. Congress is our last hope, yet the Fed does a great job to pacify our congressmen, fattening their lives on YOUR and MY dime! Congress has the power to fix what is wrong with our social-political state of things, but today, why would they? It would require reversing current law, decision and giving up THEIR financial position for the good of America. Government caused this issue. The Democratic party has paved the way for the Fed to do what has been done. NOW, we need to forget what the left and the right have in mind, as it is now ALL a FACADE! We must join forces, as our constitution has given US THE POWER and THE DUTY to right the wrongs of government.

Dee Jolly Jr – Please show me where I said ANYTHING about Libya? I simply disputed Ernest's statement that Vietnam and Korea were not authorized by congress. Vietnam military action was SPECIFICALLY authorized by congress in 1964 with the passage of the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution. PERIOD. End of Story. There is no disputing that fact – it is a part of history. No it was not an "official" war – it was labeled a 'police action'. Korea admittedly is a little murkier. It was authorized by UN Security Council Resolution 84. Twenty counties sent troops, with 88% coming from the US:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War#United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolutions
Congress itself never voted on a specific authorization for Korea, but they never disputed the validity of the UN Resolution either. If they had done so, it probably would have made a quick end of the newly formed United Nations. One could make the argument that Congress approved it by not disapproving.
Meh. I'll give ya that one Ernest.

As for Libya – Take that argument up with Jeff, he mentioned it, not me.

For the record – I find it interesting that the two biggest 'undeclared wars' that everyone always like to bring up – Korea and Vietnam – were begun by Democrat Presidents.

Well, here I go again!
Dee Jolly Jr – Please show me where I said ANYTHING about Libya? I simply disputed Ernest's statement that Vietnam and Korea were not authorized by congress. Vietnam military action was SPECIFICALLY authorized by congress in 1964 with the passage of the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution. PERIOD. End of Story. There is no disputing that fact – it is a part of history. No it was not an "official" war – it was labeled a 'police action'. Korea admittedly is a little murkier. It was authorized by UN Security Council Resolution 84. Twenty counties sent troops, with 88% coming from the US:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War#United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolutions
Congress itself never voted on a specific authorization for Korea, but they never disputed the validity of the UN Resolution either. If they had done so, it probably would have made a quick end of the newly formed United Nations. One could make the argument that Congress approved it by not disapproving.
Meh. I'll give ya that one Ernest.

As for Libya – Take that argument up with Jeff, he mentioned it, not me.

For the record – I find it interesting that the two biggest 'undeclared wars' that everyone always like to bring up – Korea and Vietnam – were begun by Democrat Presidents.

Eventually this post will stick….

I'm going to post this until it sticks!
Dee Jolly Jr – Please show me where I said ANYTHING about Libya? I simply disputed Ernest's statement that Vietnam and Korea were not authorized by congress. Vietnam military action was SPECIFICALLY authorized by congress in 1964 with the passage of the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution. PERIOD. End of Story. There is no disputing that fact – it is a part of history. No it was not an "official" war – it was labeled a 'police action'. Korea admittedly is a little murkier. It was authorized by UN Security Council Resolution 84. Twenty countries sent troops, with 88% coming from the US:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War#United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolutions
Congress itself never voted on a specific authorization for Korea, but they never disputed the validity of the UN Resolution either. If they had done so, it probably would have made a quick end of the newly formed United Nations. One could make the argument that Congress approved it by not disapproving.
Meh. I'll give ya that one Ernest.

As for Libya – Take that argument up with Jeff, he mentioned it, not me.

For the record – I find it interesting that the two biggest 'undeclared wars' that everyone always like to bring up – Korea and Vietnam – were begun by Democrat Presidents.

Sorry about that Norm, we have been having big issues with Facebook's stupid content flagging system. I have just switched us over to a blacklist of words that should avoid the issue in the future. For some reason Facebook through your use of the word "passage" was bad because it contains the word "a$$" instead of its body. This issue for everyone should be resolved moving forward. Dee and Ernest had this same issue on another post yesterday.

Thank you.

What President Obama said after, "Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet," was:

The point is is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things that we do like fighting fires that we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everyone had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires. So, we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things that we do better together. That’s how we funded the GI Bill, that’s how we created the middle class, that’s how we built the Golden Gate Bridge, or the Hover Dam. That’s how we invented the Internet. That’s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people. And, that’s the reason I’m running for president because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your own. We’re in this together.

When he said, "you didn't build that," he wasn't referring to businesses. He wasn't saying that if you are a business owner you didn't build your business on your own. He was saying that you didn't build the roads and bridges on your own, which help you commute and you transport your goods and services so that you can be successful. He was in-artful, yes, but he was NOT saying your individual initiative is dismissible. That was quite explicit. He was saying that we as a nation work together to make our society functional because we cannot all be our own teachers, policeman, firefighters, EMTs, construction workers, etc. His message wasn't about trashing small business owners—It was about unity.

If you want to watch the whole 1 hour speech, in context, for yourself, here's the CSPAN link:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/307056-2

The part you're probably most interested in is 52 minutes into the speech.