Baby Dies, Toddler Hospitalized After Being Left In Vehicles During 104 Degree Weather

They are responsible for these babies deaths.But I imagine they are remorseful and extremely heart broken, and will live in their own personal hell for the rest of their days.

murder charge duh.

Put him in the car and leave him tied up so he cannot get out!

I think we need more details before we can state an informed opinion

They should have Know better. Such a waste of life.

Where have these "parents" been? This sort of thing has been in the news a lot lately…do they NOT read the articles? It is NOT okay to leave your child in the vehicle unsupervisted FOR ANY REASON!

Yep, nobody is that stupid; he had to know this would probably happen.

YES! Irresponsible idiots! An eye 4 an eye!

They should not only charge them with murder, but should force them to endure the same treatment being exposed to extremely hot temperature for hours.

Is that really a valid question. HELL YES, BOTH OF THOSE JACKASSES. SHOULD BE LOCK IN A VEHICAL TO SUFFER THE SAME THAT THEIR INNOCENT BABIES DID. LET THEM ROAST TO DEATH…,! NO MERCY

I think in both cases, both parents should be charged… there's no way my butt would be sitting in a car in that heat for who knows how long, let alone leaving my child in one!

An eye for an eye…I agree with Annie…put him in the car till he dies from the heat!

Hope he burns in hell, that's just stupid. I don't like my daughter to be outside playing in 100 deg, weather, more less leave them in a dam car with the Windows up.. what an idiot

I don't even want to think what it would be like..he probably wants to die himself.

What more details make it OK to leave infants in an unattended vehicle?

A child is dead you moron!

Yes it is murder. Why is it that when it is a child they get a child abuse charge but if it were an adult it would have been murder. The child is helpless and depends on them to take care of them. The punishment should match the charge. These people are getting off way to easy.

They should both be left in a hot car so they know how it feels. They had to have known it was dangerous since there have been similar stories. Neither of them deserve to be fathers. What were they doing at the store? Playing video games? Buying beer? Seeing a movie?

Definitely

we can only hope he lives in torment and hell for such a STUPID & selfish act… i bet he wouldn't sit 5 minutes in that car… but leaves a child??? How can anyone be sooooo STUPID???

we can only hope he lives in torment and hell for such a STUPID & selfish act… i bet he wouldn't sit 5 minutes in that car… but leaves a child??? How can anyone be sooooo STUPID???

all about capital punishment in cases like these.

They need to hang him by his NUTS

He left, child died…what more do you need to know? Did the cops find him on his deathbed in a hospital? No…they were able to arrest him immediately…what excuse could he have!!!????

remorseful & heartbroken, is that some sort of sick joke?

Ridiculous in the worse way! Who in their right mind leaves an infant in an unattended vehicle period, regardless of temperature! If u don't want to take ur child in with u, leave them home with a sitter. If u are not smart enough to know this is a bad idea, u need to be sterilized! Anything can happen, in this case, a death but what about abduction? Freaking morons! Especially the 30 year old mother, seriously you simple simple creature!

Ridiculous in the worse way! Who in their right mind leaves an infant in an unattended vehicle period, regardless of temperature! If u don't want to take ur child in with u, leave them home with a sitter. If u are not smart enough to know this is a bad idea, u need to be sterilized! Anything can happen, in this case, a death but what about abduction? Freaking morons! Especially the 30 year old mother, seriously you simple simple creature!

The sperm donor, not a Father. Fathers will hurt themselves before hurting their babies. He didn't really want her.So he let her roast in a car, problem solved. God has that beautiful baby now!!

The sperm donor, not a Father. Fathers will hurt themselves before hurting their babies. He didn't really want her.So he let her roast in a car, problem solved. God has that beautiful baby now!!

Why did he leave the baby in the car in the first place?

Why did he leave the baby in the car in the first place?

more details? really?? Like what???? It doesn't matter the WHY or the details… the fact remains an innocent child died because he was STUPID & selfish.

I sure do think he should be charged with first degree murder! This isn't neglect, it is down right murder!

I sure do think he should be charged with first degree murder! This isn't neglect, it is down right murder!

he is probably to young to care for a child also

he is probably to young to care for a child also

they should ROT in hell…

they should ROT in hell…

I would think that a murder charge would mean that the parent did it ON PURPOSE. Manslaughter would be more accurate, wouldn't it? Stupidity is horrible in this case but not a criminal act. I DO believe he should do some time, however. Such a waste….

I would think that a murder charge would mean that the parent did it ON PURPOSE. Manslaughter would be more accurate, wouldn't it? Stupidity is horrible in this case but not a criminal act. I DO believe he should do some time, however. Such a waste….

why don't they place both parents in a locked HOT car,,, do unto others,,,

no joke. would you not be if you had accidentally killed or harmed your child? although I'm sure it wouldn't be from negligence

Unfortunately, people like this do it because they don't care. They won't suffer long if any at all. Where would you have to live or how stupid would you have to be to NOT know this would happen…they just don't care!

Both happened in Indianapolis. Are people there really that ignorant & stupid. 18 yrs. old is too young to have a child. I am wondering if this was intentional or were they both intoxicated. You can't tell me you forgot your child was in a vehicle. What a horrible death & these idiots prob. don't have a conscience to even care what happened to their child. Disgusting.

more details,,,THE BABY IS DEAD,,,AND THE OTHER CHLD HAD A SEIZURE,, you get the idiot prize with the parents

definietly. Its bad enugh when dogs are left in cars, but a baby! its unthinkable

Yes the stupid a$$hole should be as much as people are warned about that shit not to mention it is common sense he should be held responsible for this innocent babys death!

too many idiots around having babies that do not need them!

yes he should be charged with murder & he should be put in a hot car & die just like that baby did!

Someone should put them in a car with it hot outside and leave them in it!!

This is AWFUL! Some people seriously should not have kids!

Traci Lynn I'm sure he will. another good reason to wait until you are not an idiot teenager, to have kids. even where I live in WA, in the sun, if you shut off the car or a/c, it takes like 35 seconds for the car to get too hot. and a 3 month old is in one of those click in car seats, SUPER easy to get in and out. lazy f#*k!, and now that sweet baby girl suffered and died.

This is First Degree Premeditated Murder, nothing less! Both of these POS knew what would happen because they are not devoid of brain matter. The mother is probably disappointed that her 16 month old didn't die. This is by no means a case of "Neglect" they knew exactly what they were doing and the ensuing outcome. My prayers are with the 16 month old and I know the Lord has taken the 3 month old back into his loving arms. I cannot wrap my mind around this type of evil cruelty.

How does someone leave their child in a blazing hot car? Really idc how remorseful they r or sry…THEY SHOULD BE PUNISHED TO THE FULLEST!!!" VERY DISGUSTED BY THIS

More details my ass the simple fact was that he left a helpless baby in a hot car with temp. Still rising…thats insane and he should be punished weather its life in prinson which a good percent chance he will die in there anyways… I hate the situation all together no excuses

Clearly some people ARE THAT STUPID! It is neglect, and manslaughter. Premeditated murder, no.

Clearly some people ARE THAT STUPID! It is neglect, and manslaughter. Premeditated murder, no.

I do not go along with the eye for an eye but, it is more that just a child abuse, or neglect what happen is a crime of murder and severe charges should be brought to those that responsible. What can be on your mine to forget you have a baby on board? Probably texting!

More detail??? Really, I'd bet that neither of these two would have left their favorite desert in a hot vehicle because they wouldn't want it to spoil but they left their children knowing full well it was a death cage. If you need more details before stating an opinion I'm guessing that you perhaps are a Defense Attorney?

Really what more details could u possibly need??? A CHILD WAS LEFT IN A HOT VEHICLE AN DIED!!! Do u have children?

These kind of people don't read anything beyond their friends text messages. "wnna meet me @ the bar??"

you must want somone to talk too huh?

Unthinkable on both counts, animal or human. Both have feelings and suffer a terrible death.

I hate this situation like are you stupid or just dumb its not like your forgetting your checkbook in the car, its a fucking baby for crying out loud thats not a mistake.. no excuses for the 18 years old nor the 30 year old grown ass women if your not fit to be a parent dont have kids…. Like i dislike stupidity.. put both they asses in the deserts of iraq and leave them there with no water… And see how they make out….

I agree, wth is wrong people?!

That was a STUPID A$$ question, SHOULD THE FATHER BE CHARGED WITH MURDER IN THE FIRST CASE….Hell Yeah!

i agree! We really need to educated young parents! With soooo many people out there willing to adopt precious children… and to see how many IDIOTS waste a precious human life! GRRRRR! These kids tend to forget those babies NEVER asked to be born!!! All they want is someone to love and protect them! Personally… i think this guy should not be allowed to father children again…AND he should spend the rest of his life educating others with his story! Maybe we can prevent future tragedies! However… i question his mentality and conscience…. to even leave a child there in the first place…is disturbing!

ok I don't understand all the people who are talking about the parents may be remorseful and to the gentlemen who said we need to get more facts….did you see his friggen mugshot? does THAT monster look remorseful? more facts? he left a baby in the car and left! what more facts do you need? do you need to know all the drugs and booze he had that day? unreal!

Matter of fact turn the heat on full blast and strap they ass in the back seat of a car and roll the windows up and its already 115○ outside plus the heat blasting in the car and see if they survive, if you got grown people passing out dropping like flies in this weather how the hell you think a baby is suppose to surtvive in the car…

Yes he should!!!

Yes.

Yes.

He looks simple… not too bright looking

He looks simple… not too bright looking

They Should Be Left In The Car To DIE JUST LIKE THEY LEFT THE CHILD….. This is why there is a DEATH PENALTY !!!!

Would seem to meet criteria of involuntary manslaughter…

Yes he should be charged with murder. First of all I don't care what the weather is outside, how can you leave a 3 month old child in the car? That child could not talk or walk and was depending on him to take care of her. Charge him with murder and throw away the key!

How stupid can people be! I don't think it should be murder. He lost his baby to his stupidity he has to live with that.

If there is punishment for stupidity that equals punishment for murder…charge him with that…

For the haters,bread the question again. It could be negligent homicide, not murder. I apologize, I didn't realize that I had stumbled into a tea bagger rally.

How do ya even forget about your child !!!!

Prosecution has to really prove "intent" for 1st degree murder which is a high threshold. If overcharged, he will wak free. So maybe second degree of involuntary manslaughter to ensure conviction.

yes and that hell should be in a car in 104 degree temps w/ the windows up

When u read some respnses here you might get the idea there is someting far deeper going on in society? Hate, intolerance and rush to judge everyone else? THere are millions of immature youth who had kids they never should have had. Its horrible they make such callous decsions but jail? When do we stop look in the mirror and say man we have some serious problems in this world that jail is not going to solve?

It does not.matter.if.it was hot.outside or.cold. common sense is that you don't leave a child in the damn car, period!!!! Anyone who does should be given the death penalty in my opinion. To have a child is a privelige, and you should protect and cherish that child with your life not abuse that child.

yes he most def. should be!

Remember that line from "Parenthood"? Keanu Reevesk character says something like "You gotta get a license to drive but they let anyone be a parent"

that's exactly what i said after i read this

For the 18 yr. Old dad. Its a shame..he done look like he has much upstairs..and i don't know the family history..as for the fishers lady. This pitch is 30 yr. Old..she knew better. And fishers is the core of Indiana that wants to tell everyone how to live. PS INQUISITOR FISHERS AND GREENFIELD ARE NOT INDIANAPOLIS TOWNS. DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT GENEPOOL

details? go sit in your car … then we'll see if your details change

yeah! we don't need more info….KILL KILL KILL! Amazing how the mob mentality has not changed. The system and a jury will judge him.

yeah! we don't need more info….KILL KILL KILL! Amazing how the mob mentality has not changed. The system and a jury will judge him.

yeah! we don't need more info….KILL KILL KILL! Amazing how the mob mentality has not changed. The system and a jury will judge him.

yeah! we don't need more info….KILL KILL KILL! Amazing how the mob mentality has not changed. The system and a jury will judge him.

yeah! we don't need more info….KILL KILL KILL! Amazing how the mob mentality has not changed. The system and a jury will judge him.

they won't survive HOURS

I agreed with annie ashcraft…what idoit parents are… It is murdered….why yall want a baby do ur job take care of tiny baby…seen alots of ppls neglected their children

He needs to sit in a car for however long it takes for him to die…those poor children did not deserve to be treated in that manner and both patents should be made to suffer as the children did

More details from this ASS, REALLY Michael ???? This is something that even a child knows is NOT SAFE…..!!!!!!!

i would NEVER leave my 8 year old son in the car….. i would NEVER leave him in the car. if they did it in the first place i highly doubt they are remorseful and heart broken…. the guy was 18 for gods sake! he knew what his actions would result in but he STILL DID IT! NO EXCUSE FOR THIS!

Absolutely! If Murder can't stick then Manslaughter! Irresponsible doesn't define their actions. I hate parents like this.

30 years ago when I was on the ambulance service I had to go on a call for a child left in a car because daddy forgot she was there and went into work(he was to drop her off at daycare). six hours later someone notice her there when they were going out to lunch. That's baby's face still haunts me today. I think both should be charged with manslaughter and felony neglect. And I think ALL STATES should make it manslaughter and felony neglect. no ifs and/or buts about it. Then they should have to sit in a hot car, strapped in for three/four hours to feel what these children had to deal with. Then if they live put they in jail and throw away the key.

What part of a child whom is not able to care for themselves being left in a closed vehicle in 100+ degrees is not understandable. What more information would be needed. They left their infant children in a closed vehicle. Sorry to sound mean but these were babies. There is no other information needed. A baby died and it was hot enough for the other to have a seizure.

YES YES YES

NO MERCY Jennifer, NOT FOR THIS…..!!!!!!!

I bet all of these posters characterize themselves as Christians.

other details? I'll bet if it was a member of YOUR family he did this to you would have ALL info you need to make an "informed opinion", total agreement with prior assessment, you sir, are a moron.

yes

Absolutely! I wouldn't let them take care of my lawn, let alone child…. They are just sick! Children are so innocent, & depend on their parents to take care of them. These 2 people didn't deserve children. I hope they morn the rest of their lives! IN PRISON!

i dont understand why parents leave a child in a car when they go shopping,i hope they both get jailed,

Negligent homicide?

look at it he killed a person its murder put him in prison for life let him be someones bitch for the rest of is life

details are important as to what these two parents were doing when the children were left in the car as to how seriouly stupid a decision it was. was it done on purpose, as some morons have done, or was it accidental is the question! Name calling someone for their opinion is low an uncalled for. Get all the facts first. I remember a wonderful grandfather who accidentally left his grandchild in the car after he forgot to drop the child off at daycare, trying to help his child out on his way to work, something he wasn't used to doing. He/she who is without sin cast the first stone. Let the authorities investigate and do their job.

I knew exactly what you meant Michael. I think the haters missed your point totally. And to call you a moron? They need to take a chill pill.

That's really messed up u dnt do that to any kids they didn't ask to b here if they didn't wnt them they should NT hve had them I hope they put him up under the jail. Let's put him in sme 104 degree as weather and c hw he like it throw the book at him lock him up for the rest of his damn life I'm mad as hell

Seriously?!? Two innocent children were hurt. One unfortunately died as a result of pure negligence and the other child suffered a seizure. You're an idiot! Go sit in your car on a hot day, with the windows up, and then let's see how you feel.

this guy should be stoned to death

In the words of my husband… ppl like that should be sterilized. I'm sorry but anyone who can leave their babies and children in a locked car at 104°andthe up obviously don't care about them or want them. Imho

I don't trust the media to report anything accurately. But listen to yourselves people? What he did was wrong I'm not saying that it isn't. Go through and read how much hatred and anger is in all of your comments….Do you think he killed that baby with the same corruption you have in your hearts right now? Tie him up in the car and leave him? Let him rot in hell? Your just as ugly on the inside as he probably is. But I know that after I post this all of you are going to attack me too. I believe this man killed a child who was dependant upon him. Yes its fucked up, No I don't like it but honestly its happened before over the years and it will happen again. Your angery is not unwarranted but for the sake of the innocent who died and doesn't understand such things perhaps we should try to restrain ourselves.

Agreed. I went to Kroger the other day when it was 97 out, this jackass leaves his dog in the car with windows up. Yep I called the cops. Stupid people should not own pets or have kids

It doesn't matter what these parents were doing@Margaret these babies depended on them to be taken care of. I am a grandmother of 4 and I NEVER forgot mine.

Parent, he is not a parent who forgets there kids in a car cold or hot weather. YES they should both be charged with murder. Prison will do them some good.

Margaret Peggy Warfle , you don't have kids do you? Yes, it would be tragic if it were a grandparent who wasn't used to doing something…but how do you forget a CHILD…not a beer, not a dog, not a piece of paper, but a child!?! And, this was NOT a grandparent…it was the child's father!!!

more details? The only detail is the child was LEFT in the car by her so called PARENT, the reason for leaving her DOES NOT MATTER!

I'm sorry but there is no justification for leaving a child in a car in this heat. Leave them home with family or friends. Some people don't deserve to have children.

WOW I had three small ones to tend to (they are all older now ) and these ASS DOUCHES cant even take care of ONE! This is beyond murder to me how in the hell do you leave a FREAKIN BABY in a car in this heat? GOD will deal with you regardless of the fate you reap here on Earth.

OH YES THEY ARE!! Every day more people prove their stupidity more than the day before!! WTF is this world coming to??

KILL THEM BOTH WITH FIRE!

KILL THEM BOTH WITH FIRE!

so true Hek Hek !!!

OR BETTER YET PUT THEM IN A BRONZE BULL! And stoke that fire with thermite!

I say put them in the car and strap them down and let them suffer just like those babies.

You're ignorance makes me afraid for that precious child u have as your profile pic.

They DID do it on purpose. They purposely left their children there. They purposely walked away from the car. AND they purposely were away for long enough for death and severe damage to occur. There isnt a person in the whole of the world that has the right to bethat stupid. I wish natural selection worked for humans the way it does for animals, the stupid ones would not survive long enough to breed!

They should lock him in a car with 104 degree temps instead of a jail cell.

R u kidding me, the baby is dead, it's murder not neglect!!

Kay Lawson. Do you know if he left the child intentionally or accidently? That would make a difference. You sound like a moron.

mr weidner…you're an idiot !!!

Heck Yeah, these people don't have common sense and shouldn't be allowed to be parents. This story made me so sad and so angry. I think they both need to spend at least 5 years in jail if not more to send this message out to all parents. Never Ever leave a Child or a Pet in a car alone. Shouldn't matter if it is too hot or too cold. It is irresponsible.

Tink Zomby. And you know this how? Were you there?

Both parents should be charged to the maximum allowed.

Don't waste the tax payers money, he did it, he is gulity, lock him up in a hot vehical and be done with him. Tink, I love the natural selection , I wish it worked that way too.

one can only hope…

or better yet put there ass in the car the same temp, same time roll up the window and say there how do you like it. These people get my BLOOD BOILING. IDIOTS

yes…manslaughter

yes…manslaughter

No one can say what is on another person's mind when they close their car door and leave their child inside, obviously too much. My teenage baby sitter did it to my daughter on a hot summer's day, but realized it as she was walking away. The fire department was there in minutes and smashed the window open. I know not being a mother herself and not having an innate sense of responsibility was part of it. Good mothers and fathers (at least IMHO) consider a child as part of themselves. Would you leave part of yourself locked in a hot car? That said, I do agree that all parents should be required to attend a parenting class as far too many people have children who most definitely should not, and this type of horror proves it. Also yes, the mob mentality of this forum is frightening.

true both should get the death penalty

What kind of parent leaves a 3 month old baby alone in a car in for ANY reason? Nita Herring!!!!

You here these terrible tragedies of children dying from being left in a vehicle. The people that have committed these crimes say it is a mistake. I don't believe it is a mistake. How can someone forget a child in a vehicle? What is so much more importnat that you could forget a life. People that do these crimes need to be punished to the max. They should also, have experience what these innocent children went through. These children/babies were tortured and these aweful people who did it need to be tortured as well.

Was somebody watching Immortals? I def. agree with you though. If stupid is as stupid does, they gotta be showed not be stupid.

LOL no I just know that once thermite is burning you cant put it out even if you wanted to! Love you Aaron!

Put him in a car that the windows will not roll down and fix it to where he can not get out. Make sure that he has no keys. Then forget him. The people leaving babies in cars in this heat deserve the death sentence.

Put him in a car that the windows will not roll down and fix it to where he can not get out. Make sure that he has no keys. Then forget him. The people leaving babies in cars in this heat deserve the death sentence.

I am NOT a lawyer… but I believe First degree murder is premeditated and intentional… then there is 2nd and 3rd degree… and manslaughter… and various other charges…..
Personally, I do believe this should be tried as MURDER…. it resulted in a death that could have and SHOULD have been prevented.

Theresa, Although most people can't imagine forgetting there child/infant in the car. Some cases like the one you discribed seem to be truely an accident. And I am sure this man has suffered deeply…. On the other hand, this was 30 yrs. ago. before most knew the dangers. !!!!!! And I hate to judge by someones looks, but this critter doesn't look like he even knows what remorse is. He don"t feel bad about the death of the child, just about getting caught.. NO MORE HOUSING THESE SCUM, I SAY AN EYE FOR AN EYE , LIKE THE OLDEN DAYS. PEOPLE WILL THINK TWICE IF THEY KNOW THERE PUNISHMENT WILL BE THE SAME AS THERE CRIME.!!!!!!!

yes…i agree… NEGLECT would have been leaving the baby at home…alone…in comfortable temperatures….

Listen here. I do know that a baby is dead, a toddler irreparably damaged and if it isnt the parents complete fault then who's is it. I sure hope you dont have kids, we dont need anymore bleeding heart excuse makers in this world.

what if it was your child or your grand daughter Mr High and Mighty?!!! then how would you respond?!!!

How many details do you need? What brand of diaper the kid was wearing? You don't leave a PLANT in the car during a heatwave. These idiots should all be charged and sterilized.

Common sense is DEAD.

You NEVER leave a child unattended in a closed car! There is NO excuse for such stupidness. These 2 are poor excuses for humans ( let alone parents.) Heart broken? They have no hearts!

He looks like a stoner..fix him a and throw him in the honest cell..make him suffer

The death of one child and the heat stroke the other suffered is a dreadful thing. But what is equally disturbing is the majority of posts on this forum. As you say Christian the mob mentality rules. We have spent centuries developing a justice system that holds everyone innocent until proved guilty, and allows for full investigation of the facts before reaching a conclusion. The kind of posts here make me worry for the neutrality and fairness of the jury system. I suspect the 18 year old father just did not realise what would happen. In which case he would be guilty of manslaughter by neglect. And the 30 year old mother? We know nothing about her, or about her state of mind at the time. It is the job of the police to investigate both, and the courts to decide what happened and what is appropriate action.

Agreed Gail. Unfortunately most of the people that are breeding are the ones too lazy or stupid to use birth control or that know that there is a check waiting for them every month.

So we are going to judge him on a photo taken when in police custody? To me he looks confused and desperate.

And that is your professional opinion is it Belinda. I am very glad I am never going to be looking for help from Social Workers in the USA

i agree with the name calling… there is NO reason to call someone names for posting their opinion…
However this is an extreme case and can bring forth many emotions… especially to parents.. or those who desperately want to be parents. WHY can't it be murder?? 2nd degree…3rd degree? Or is the punishment for negligent homicide more than a lesser charge of murder?? Either way… i believe this kid should have to go around telling his story… and educating other young people.. in hopes of preventing another tragedy!
I do have even more concerns with the 30 year old mother… who left her child unattended… such devastation that could have easily been prevented!

i agree with the name calling… there is NO reason to call someone names for posting their opinion…
However this is an extreme case and can bring forth many emotions… especially to parents.. or those who desperately want to be parents. WHY can't it be murder?? 2nd degree…3rd degree? Or is the punishment for negligent homicide more than a lesser charge of murder?? Either way… i believe this kid should have to go around telling his story… and educating other young people.. in hopes of preventing another tragedy!
I do have even more concerns with the 30 year old mother… who left her child unattended… such devastation that could have easily been prevented!

i agree with the name calling… there is NO reason to call someone names for posting their opinion…
However this is an extreme case and can bring forth many emotions… especially to parents.. or those who desperately want to be parents. WHY can't it be murder?? 2nd degree…3rd degree? Or is the punishment for negligent homicide more than a lesser charge of murder?? Either way… i believe this kid should have to go around telling his story… and educating other young people.. in hopes of preventing another tragedy!
I do have even more concerns with the 30 year old mother… who left her child unattended… such devastation that could have easily been prevented!

I agree, here it would not be murder if it was no premeditated, involuntary manslaughter would fit. But the investigation and charges are up to the police, and the outcome up to the courts. And I very much hope that the professionals there, and the jury if there is one, are not like the majority of those posting here. The mob mentality here is frightening

In the case of the FATHER…yes, he "Should Have Known", but DID HE TRULY? I feel has to be considered, and first reaction is "Yes, send him away for life." THEN I read that he is ONLY 18. I KNOW I KNOW "old enough have the book thrown at him", think about today's youth…we don't really know what his parental situation was for the last 18 yrs & 18 yrs old is not much time for the "trial & error" time that a lot of inexperienced parents pick up their skills with. I'm not saying all parents use "trial & error" but so many kids today were babysat with video games & cartoons that we have NO TRUE IDEA about whether he TRULY KNEW you can't leave a kid in the car…AS MUCH AS I HATE THE IDEA OF DEFENDING HIM, IT IS HIGHLY POSSIBLE HE WAS LEFT IN THE CAR OFTEN GROWING UP WHILE HIS MOTHER RAN INTO TO GET A QUICK COUPLE ITEMS & BACK OUT. HE MAY HAVE REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. It sucks that we have children in society that have been left alone or in cars for parental convenience, but it happens and use to happen A LOT MORE OFTEN. While there is little excuse, I am more inclined to "understand" or feel a certain mercy from a certain perspective for him. WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS THE 30 YR OLD MOTHER IN THE OTHER CASE….SEND THAT BITCH AWAY….BY THE TIME YOU ARE 30 YOU HAVE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE WHOLE "LEAVING THE KID IN CAR IS NOT A SMART MOVE" ISSUE! There is nothing, NOTHING she can say to convince me that she literally thought it would be okay…even for a minute – 30 YEARS OLD? NOPE – NO EXCUSES THERE! No room for "I didn't know!" or "I didn't think it would be that big of a deal!" BULLSHIT! She needs to go away for life, right there!

Mindy Papp Roberts In the case of the FATHER…yes, he "Should Have Known", but DID HE TRULY? I feel has to be considered, and first reaction is "Yes, send him away for life." THEN I read that he is ONLY 18. I KNOW I KNOW "old enough have the book thrown at him", think about today's youth…we don't really know what his parental situation was for the last 18 yrs & 18 yrs old is not much time for the "trial & error" time that a lot of inexperienced parents pick up their skills with. I'm not saying all parents use "trial & error" but so many kids today were babysat with video games & cartoons that we have NO TRUE IDEA about whether he TRULY KNEW you can't leave a kid in the car…AS MUCH AS I HATE THE IDEA OF DEFENDING HIM, IT IS HIGHLY POSSIBLE HE WAS LEFT IN THE CAR OFTEN GROWING UP WHILE HIS MOTHER RAN INTO TO GET A QUICK COUPLE ITEMS & BACK OUT. HE MAY HAVE REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. It sucks that we have children in society that have been left alone or in cars for parental convenience, but it happens and use to happen A LOT MORE OFTEN. While there is little excuse, I am more inclined to "understand" or feel a certain mercy from a certain perspective for him. WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS THE 30 YR OLD MOTHER IN THE OTHER CASE….SEND THAT BITCH AWAY….BY THE TIME YOU ARE 30 YOU HAVE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE WHOLE "LEAVING THE KID IN CAR IS NOT A SMART MOVE" ISSUE! There is nothing, NOTHING she can say to convince me that she literally thought it would be okay…even for a minute – 30 YEARS OLD? NOPE – NO EXCUSES THERE! No room for "I didn't know!" or "I didn't think it would be that big of a deal!" BULLSHIT! She needs to go away for life, right there!

Kay Lawson In the case of the FATHER…yes, he "Should Have Known", but DID HE TRULY? I feel has to be considered, and first reaction is "Yes, send him away for life." THEN I read that he is ONLY 18. I KNOW I KNOW "old enough have the book thrown at him", think about today's youth…we don't really know what his parental situation was for the last 18 yrs & 18 yrs old is not much time for the "trial & error" time that a lot of inexperienced parents pick up their skills with. I'm not saying all parents use "trial & error" but so many kids today were babysat with video games & cartoons that we have NO TRUE IDEA about whether he TRULY KNEW you can't leave a kid in the car…AS MUCH AS I HATE THE IDEA OF DEFENDING HIM, IT IS HIGHLY POSSIBLE HE WAS LEFT IN THE CAR OFTEN GROWING UP WHILE HIS MOTHER RAN INTO TO GET A QUICK COUPLE ITEMS & BACK OUT. HE MAY HAVE REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. It sucks that we have children in society that have been left alone or in cars for parental convenience, but it happens and use to happen A LOT MORE OFTEN. While there is little excuse, I am more inclined to "understand" or feel a certain mercy from a certain perspective for him. WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS THE 30 YR OLD MOTHER IN THE OTHER CASE….SEND THAT BITCH AWAY….BY THE TIME YOU ARE 30 YOU HAVE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE WHOLE "LEAVING THE KID IN CAR IS NOT A SMART MOVE" ISSUE! There is nothing, NOTHING she can say to convince me that she literally thought it would be okay…even for a minute – 30 YEARS OLD? NOPE – NO EXCUSES THERE! No room for "I didn't know!" or "I didn't think it would be that big of a deal!" BULLSHIT! She needs to go away for life, right there!

It would only be first degree premeditated murder if he had planned it Barbara. And by what right do you make that kind of statement about the mother. The father of the baby is a boy himself, yes he should have known better, but we know nothing about what happened. I once knew a Professor who took his child of 18 months to a library, left it asleep in its pram outside, and didn't remember it till he got home. Our own Prime Minister and his wife recently left their 8 year old daughter alone in a pub and didn't realise it till they were home. Fortunately no harm done in either case. People do make mistakes. Let us leave the authorities to investigate. 'evil cruelty'? – from your post you seem to adhere to Christianity – have you forgotten the bit about 'judge not lest you be judged' or the rest about loving and forgiving.

It would only be first degree premeditated murder if he had planned it Barbara. And by what right do you make that kind of statement about the mother. The father of the baby is a boy himself, yes he should have known better, but we know nothing about what happened. I once knew a Professor who took his child of 18 months to a library, left it asleep in its pram outside, and didn't remember it till he got home. Our own Prime Minister and his wife recently left their 8 year old daughter alone in a pub and didn't realise it till they were home. Fortunately no harm done in either case. People do make mistakes. Let us leave the authorities to investigate. 'evil cruelty'? – from your post you seem to adhere to Christianity – have you forgotten the bit about 'judge not lest you be judged' or the rest about loving and forgiving.

remorseful? look at his mug shot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there is nothing remorseful about it!!!!

Sonya Michele Jensen In the case of the FATHER…yes, he "Should Have Known", but DID HE TRULY? I feel has to be considered, and first reaction is "Yes, send him away for life." THEN I read that he is ONLY 18. I KNOW I KNOW "old enough have the book thrown at him", think about today's youth…we don't really know what his parental situation was for the last 18 yrs & 18 yrs old is not much time for the "trial & error" time that a lot of inexperienced parents pick up their skills with. I'm not saying all parents use "trial & error" but so many kids today were babysat with video games & cartoons that we have NO TRUE IDEA about whether he TRULY KNEW you can't leave a kid in the car…AS MUCH AS I HATE THE IDEA OF DEFENDING HIM, IT IS HIGHLY POSSIBLE HE WAS LEFT IN THE CAR OFTEN GROWING UP WHILE HIS MOTHER RAN INTO TO GET A QUICK COUPLE ITEMS & BACK OUT. HE MAY HAVE REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. It sucks that we have children in society that have been left alone or in cars for parental convenience, but it happens and use to happen A LOT MORE OFTEN. While there is little excuse, I am more inclined to "understand" or feel a certain mercy from a certain perspective for him. WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS THE 30 YR OLD MOTHER IN THE OTHER CASE….SEND THAT BITCH AWAY….BY THE TIME YOU ARE 30 YOU HAVE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE WHOLE "LEAVING THE KID IN CAR IS NOT A SMART MOVE" ISSUE! There is nothing, NOTHING she can say to convince me that she literally thought it would be okay…even for a minute – 30 YEARS OLD? NOPE – NO EXCUSES THERE! No room for "I didn't know!" or "I didn't think it would be that big of a deal!" BULLSHIT! She needs to go away for life, right there!

How the hell do you accidentally forget your child in the car…or anywhere??? You should not be able to parent if that's the case and he is guilty regardless!!!! Nita, YOU are the moron.

In the case of the FATHER…yes, he "Should Have Known", but DID HE TRULY? I feel has to be considered, and first reaction is "Yes, send him away for life." THEN I read that he is ONLY 18. I KNOW I KNOW "old enough have the book thrown at him", think about today's youth…we don't really know what his parental situation was for the last 18 yrs & 18 yrs old is not much time for the "trial & error" time that a lot of inexperienced parents pick up their skills with. I'm not saying all parents use "trial & error" but so many kids today were babysat with video games & cartoons that we have NO TRUE IDEA about whether he TRULY KNEW you can't leave a kid in the car…AS MUCH AS I HATE THE IDEA OF DEFENDING HIM, IT IS HIGHLY POSSIBLE HE WAS LEFT IN THE CAR OFTEN GROWING UP WHILE HIS MOTHER RAN INTO TO GET A QUICK COUPLE ITEMS & BACK OUT. HE MAY HAVE REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. It sucks that we have children in society that have been left alone or in cars for parental convenience, but it happens and use to happen A LOT MORE OFTEN. While there is little excuse, I am more inclined to "understand" or feel a certain mercy from a certain perspective for him. WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS THE 30 YR OLD MOTHER IN THE OTHER CASE….SEND THAT BITCH AWAY….BY THE TIME YOU ARE 30 YOU HAVE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE WHOLE "LEAVING THE KID IN CAR IS NOT A SMART MOVE" ISSUE! There is nothing, NOTHING she can say to convince me that she literally thought it would be okay…even for a minute – 30 YEARS OLD? NOPE – NO EXCUSES THERE! No room for "I didn't know!" or "I didn't think it would be that big of a deal!" BULLSHIT! She needs to go away for life, right there!

In the case of the FATHER…yes, he "Should Have Known", but DID HE TRULY? I feel has to be considered, and first reaction is "Yes, send him away for life." THEN I read that he is ONLY 18. I KNOW I KNOW "old enough have the book thrown at him", think about today's youth…we don't really know what his parental situation was for the last 18 yrs & 18 yrs old is not much time for the "trial & error" time that a lot of inexperienced parents pick up their skills with. I'm not saying all parents use "trial & error" but so many kids today were babysat with video games & cartoons that we have NO TRUE IDEA about whether he TRULY KNEW you can't leave a kid in the car…AS MUCH AS I HATE THE IDEA OF DEFENDING HIM, IT IS HIGHLY POSSIBLE HE WAS LEFT IN THE CAR OFTEN GROWING UP WHILE HIS MOTHER RAN INTO TO GET A QUICK COUPLE ITEMS & BACK OUT. HE MAY HAVE REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. It sucks that we have children in society that have been left alone or in cars for parental convenience, but it happens and use to happen A LOT MORE OFTEN. While there is little excuse, I am more inclined to "understand" or feel a certain mercy from a certain perspective for him. WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS THE 30 YR OLD MOTHER IN THE OTHER CASE….SEND THAT BITCH AWAY….BY THE TIME YOU ARE 30 YOU HAVE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE WHOLE "LEAVING THE KID IN CAR IS NOT A SMART MOVE" ISSUE! There is nothing, NOTHING she can say to convince me that she literally thought it would be okay…even for a minute – 30 YEARS OLD? NOPE – NO EXCUSES THERE! No room for "I didn't know!" or "I didn't think it would be that big of a deal!" BULLSHIT! She needs to go away for life, right there!

In the case of the FATHER…yes, he "Should Have Known", but DID HE TRULY? I feel has to be considered, and first reaction is "Yes, send him away for life." THEN I read that he is ONLY 18. I KNOW I KNOW "old enough have the book thrown at him", think about today's youth…we don't really know what his parental situation was for the last 18 yrs & 18 yrs old is not much time for the "trial & error" time that a lot of inexperienced parents pick up their skills with. I'm not saying all parents use "trial & error" but so many kids today were babysat with video games & cartoons that we have NO TRUE IDEA about whether he TRULY KNEW you can't leave a kid in the car…AS MUCH AS I HATE THE IDEA OF DEFENDING HIM, IT IS HIGHLY POSSIBLE HE WAS LEFT IN THE CAR OFTEN GROWING UP WHILE HIS MOTHER RAN INTO TO GET A QUICK COUPLE ITEMS & BACK OUT. HE MAY HAVE REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. It sucks that we have children in society that have been left alone or in cars for parental convenience, but it happens and use to happen A LOT MORE OFTEN. While there is little excuse, I am more inclined to "understand" or feel a certain mercy from a certain perspective for him. WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS THE 30 YR OLD MOTHER IN THE OTHER CASE….SEND THAT BITCH AWAY….BY THE TIME YOU ARE 30 YOU HAVE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE WHOLE "LEAVING THE KID IN CAR IS NOT A SMART MOVE" ISSUE! There is nothing, NOTHING she can say to convince me that she literally thought it would be okay…even for a minute – 30 YEARS OLD? NOPE – NO EXCUSES THERE! No room for "I didn't know!" or "I didn't think it would be that big of a deal!" BULLSHIT! She needs to go away for life, right there!

In the case of the FATHER…yes, he "Should Have Known", but DID HE TRULY? I feel has to be considered, and first reaction is "Yes, send him away for life." THEN I read that he is ONLY 18. I KNOW I KNOW "old enough have the book thrown at him", think about today's youth…we don't really know what his parental situation was for the last 18 yrs & 18 yrs old is not much time for the "trial & error" time that a lot of inexperienced parents pick up their skills with. I'm not saying all parents use "trial & error" but so many kids today were babysat with video games & cartoons that we have NO TRUE IDEA about whether he TRULY KNEW you can't leave a kid in the car…AS MUCH AS I HATE THE IDEA OF DEFENDING HIM, IT IS HIGHLY POSSIBLE HE WAS LEFT IN THE CAR OFTEN GROWING UP WHILE HIS MOTHER RAN INTO TO GET A QUICK COUPLE ITEMS & BACK OUT. HE MAY HAVE REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. It sucks that we have children in society that have been left alone or in cars for parental convenience, but it happens and use to happen A LOT MORE OFTEN. While there is little excuse, I am more inclined to "understand" or feel a certain mercy from a certain perspective for him. WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS THE 30 YR OLD MOTHER IN THE OTHER CASE….SEND THAT BITCH AWAY….BY THE TIME YOU ARE 30 YOU HAVE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE WHOLE "LEAVING THE KID IN CAR IS NOT A SMART MOVE" ISSUE! There is nothing, NOTHING she can say to convince me that she literally thought it would be okay…even for a minute – 30 YEARS OLD? NOPE – NO EXCUSES THERE! No room for "I didn't know!" or "I didn't think it would be that big of a deal!" BULLSHIT! She needs to go away for life, right there!

Yup I agree put him in a car let him die a slow death!!!!

Yup I agree put him in a car let him die a slow death!!!!

Yup I agree put him in a car let him die a slow death!!!!

Yup I agree put him in a car let him die a slow death!!!!

In the case of the FATHER…yes, he "Should Have Known", but DID HE TRULY? I feel has to be considered, and first reaction is "Yes, send him away for life." THEN I read that he is ONLY 18. I KNOW I KNOW "old enough have the book thrown at him", think about today's youth…we don't really know what his parental situation was for the last 18 yrs & 18 yrs old is not much time for the "trial & error" time that a lot of inexperienced parents pick up their skills with. I'm not saying all parents use "trial & error" but so many kids today were babysat with video games & cartoons that we have NO TRUE IDEA about whether he TRULY KNEW you can't leave a kid in the car…AS MUCH AS I HATE THE IDEA OF DEFENDING HIM, IT IS HIGHLY POSSIBLE HE WAS LEFT IN THE CAR OFTEN GROWING UP WHILE HIS MOTHER RAN INTO TO GET A QUICK COUPLE ITEMS & BACK OUT. HE MAY HAVE REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. It sucks that we have children in society that have been left alone or in cars for parental convenience, but it happens and use to happen A LOT MORE OFTEN. While there is little excuse, I am more inclined to "understand" or feel a certain mercy from a certain perspective for him. WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS THE 30 YR OLD MOTHER IN THE OTHER CASE….SEND THAT BITCH AWAY….BY THE TIME YOU ARE 30 YOU HAVE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE WHOLE "LEAVING THE KID IN CAR IS NOT A SMART MOVE" ISSUE! There is nothing, NOTHING she can say to convince me that she literally thought it would be okay…even for a minute – 30 YEARS OLD? NOPE – NO EXCUSES THERE! No room for "I didn't know!" or "I didn't think it would be that big of a deal!" BULLSHIT! She needs to go away for life, right there!

In the case of the FATHER…yes, he "Should Have Known", but DID HE TRULY? I feel has to be considered, and first reaction is "Yes, send him away for life." THEN I read that he is ONLY 18. I KNOW I KNOW "old enough have the book thrown at him", think about today's youth…we don't really know what his parental situation was for the last 18 yrs & 18 yrs old is not much time for the "trial & error" time that a lot of inexperienced parents pick up their skills with. I'm not saying all parents use "trial & error" but so many kids today were babysat with video games & cartoons that we have NO TRUE IDEA about whether he TRULY KNEW you can't leave a kid in the car…AS MUCH AS I HATE THE IDEA OF DEFENDING HIM, IT IS HIGHLY POSSIBLE HE WAS LEFT IN THE CAR OFTEN GROWING UP WHILE HIS MOTHER RAN INTO TO GET A QUICK COUPLE ITEMS & BACK OUT. HE MAY HAVE REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. It sucks that we have children in society that have been left alone or in cars for parental convenience, but it happens and use to happen A LOT MORE OFTEN. While there is little excuse, I am more inclined to "understand" or feel a certain mercy from a certain perspective for him. WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS THE 30 YR OLD MOTHER IN THE OTHER CASE….SEND THAT BITCH AWAY….BY THE TIME YOU ARE 30 YOU HAVE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE WHOLE "LEAVING THE KID IN CAR IS NOT A SMART MOVE" ISSUE! There is nothing, NOTHING she can say to convince me that she literally thought it would be okay…even for a minute – 30 YEARS OLD? NOPE – NO EXCUSES THERE! No room for "I didn't know!" or "I didn't think it would be that big of a deal!" BULLSHIT! She needs to go away for life, right there!

In the case of the FATHER…yes, he "Should Have Known", but DID HE TRULY? I feel has to be considered, and first reaction is "Yes, send him away for life." THEN I read that he is ONLY 18. I KNOW I KNOW "old enough have the book thrown at him", think about today's youth…we don't really know what his parental situation was for the last 18 yrs & 18 yrs old is not much time for the "trial & error" time that a lot of inexperienced parents pick up their skills with. I'm not saying all parents use "trial & error" but so many kids today were babysat with video games & cartoons that we have NO TRUE IDEA about whether he TRULY KNEW you can't leave a kid in the car…AS MUCH AS I HATE THE IDEA OF DEFENDING HIM, IT IS HIGHLY POSSIBLE HE WAS LEFT IN THE CAR OFTEN GROWING UP WHILE HIS MOTHER RAN INTO TO GET A QUICK COUPLE ITEMS & BACK OUT. HE MAY HAVE REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. It sucks that we have children in society that have been left alone or in cars for parental convenience, but it happens and use to happen A LOT MORE OFTEN. While there is little excuse, I am more inclined to "understand" or feel a certain mercy from a certain perspective for him. WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS THE 30 YR OLD MOTHER IN THE OTHER CASE….SEND THAT BITCH AWAY….BY THE TIME YOU ARE 30 YOU HAVE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE WHOLE "LEAVING THE KID IN CAR IS NOT A SMART MOVE" ISSUE! There is nothing, NOTHING she can say to convince me that she literally thought it would be okay…even for a minute – 30 YEARS OLD? NOPE – NO EXCUSES THERE! No room for "I didn't know!" or "I didn't think it would be that big of a deal!" BULLSHIT! She needs to go away for life, right there!

As the ole saying goes, "Just because certain people CAN biologically produce a child does not mean that they SHOULD"!

In the case of the FATHER…yes, he "Should Have Known", but DID HE TRULY? I feel has to be considered, and first reaction is "Yes, send him away for life." THEN I read that he is ONLY 18. I KNOW I KNOW "old enough have the book thrown at him", think about today's youth…we don't really know what his parental situation was for the last 18 yrs & 18 yrs old is not much time for the "trial & error" time that a lot of inexperienced parents pick up their skills with. I'm not saying all parents use "trial & error" but so many kids today were babysat with video games & cartoons that we have NO TRUE IDEA about whether he TRULY KNEW you can't leave a kid in the car…AS MUCH AS I HATE THE IDEA OF DEFENDING HIM, IT IS HIGHLY POSSIBLE HE WAS LEFT IN THE CAR OFTEN GROWING UP WHILE HIS MOTHER RAN INTO TO GET A QUICK COUPLE ITEMS & BACK OUT. HE MAY HAVE REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. It sucks that we have children in society that have been left alone or in cars for parental convenience, but it happens and use to happen A LOT MORE OFTEN. While there is little excuse, I am more inclined to "understand" or feel a certain mercy from a certain perspective for him. WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS THE 30 YR OLD MOTHER IN THE OTHER CASE….SEND THAT BITCH AWAY….BY THE TIME YOU ARE 30 YOU HAVE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE WHOLE "LEAVING THE KID IN CAR IS NOT A SMART MOVE" ISSUE! There is nothing, NOTHING she can say to convince me that she literally thought it would be okay…even for a minute – 30 YEARS OLD? NOPE – NO EXCUSES THERE! No room for "I didn't know!" or "I didn't think it would be that big of a deal!" BULLSHIT! She needs to go away for life, right there!

@Cindy… You are entitled to your opinion just like I am entitled to mines

As a pregnant mom of a one year old and a furbaby, this disgusts me to no end. These are innocent children here. Unless they were being held at gunpoint, there is no reason to leave their children like that. It's not right to attack people for having an opinion, but this is an emotional topic and not many people will support giving these parents the benefit of the doubt.

He has to live with what happened! That's punishment enough! Now if there was a way to prove that is was on purpose then yes put him in a hot car and let him die! Evil ppl hurt children in purpose! But sometime good ppl just are dumb and forgetful and when bad shit happens! Living with the death of ur child is hard enough! Y waste tax dollars on an accident!

Cindy, I'm not a Bible Thumper but I also realize that this "kid" probably takes better care of his game system, cell phone, shoes etc because these things hold a priority. Unless he is severely mentally impaired what did he expect would happen if he left an infant in a car with temps reaching 3 digits? So, while it is just my OPINION it remains the same. How would you feel if this were your child and his young father made a "mistake" and cost your infant her life? People will go to great lengths to protect animals to the extent of having shows like "Whale Wars" and forming organizations specifically designed to protect animals and prosecute their abusers but we still give people the benefit of the doubt when their actions lead to the death of a child. Fortunately I do not live in the same state with him and I would not be part of the jury pool but I am not backing down on my stance.

May those babies RIP. I can't imagine what was going through their mind; a 3 month old BABY & a 16 month old infant. What kind of "parents" are they?

I would wait till it was a 104 degree day and chain these parents together put them into a car roll up the windows and put pictures of the babies they left in the car so the last thing they saw was their little faces! As parents it is up to us to protect our children. I can't even imagine why in God's name anyone would think it's ok to leave any baby in a car alone never mind when it's a 103 degrees outside!

SO true…need to think about other demographics than your own, people….I would never leave my kid like that, MOST UPPER-MIDDLE CLASS WELL TO DO people wouldn't, but there are people who were not raise properly and never taken from THEIR parents as THEY should have been b/c of an overworked and understaffed social/child services system. OH WAIT…OUR TAXES pay for that system….ANYONE WILLING TO PAY HIGHER TAXES so that we can make sure EACH INDIVIDUAL CHILD is properly taught the difference between right and wrong?….B/C THAT WOULD BE ABOUT QUADRUPLE OR MORE to actually accomplish that…but oh no, you'd rather sit on your HIGH HORSES and tell yourselves how right you are AFTER THE FACT b/c you didn't want to do what it takes to deal with prevention in the first place…everyone wants to bitch and judge…no one wants to actually get involved and help…just sayin'.

SO true…need to think about other demographics than your own, people….I would never leave my kid like that, MOST UPPER-MIDDLE CLASS WELL TO DO people wouldn't, but there are people who were not raise properly and never taken from THEIR parents as THEY should have been b/c of an overworked and understaffed social/child services system. OH WAIT…OUR TAXES pay for that system….ANYONE WILLING TO PAY HIGHER TAXES so that we can make sure EACH INDIVIDUAL CHILD is properly taught the difference between right and wrong?….B/C THAT WOULD BE ABOUT QUADRUPLE OR MORE to actually accomplish that…but oh no, you'd rather sit on your HIGH HORSES and tell yourselves how right you are AFTER THE FACT b/c you didn't want to do what it takes to deal with prevention in the first place…everyone wants to bitch and judge…no one wants to actually get involved and help…just sayin'.

SO true…need to think about other demographics than your own, people….I would never leave my kid like that, MOST UPPER-MIDDLE CLASS WELL TO DO people wouldn't, but there are people who were not raise properly and never taken from THEIR parents as THEY should have been b/c of an overworked and understaffed social/child services system. OH WAIT…OUR TAXES pay for that system….ANYONE WILLING TO PAY HIGHER TAXES so that we can make sure EACH INDIVIDUAL CHILD is properly taught the difference between right and wrong?….B/C THAT WOULD BE ABOUT QUADRUPLE OR MORE to actually accomplish that…but oh no, you'd rather sit on your HIGH HORSES and tell yourselves how right you are AFTER THE FACT b/c you didn't want to do what it takes to deal with prevention in the first place…everyone wants to bitch and judge…no one wants to actually get involved and help…just sayin'.

common sense is not so common anymore – I think we need to lock these idiots in a car and let them suffer the same fate!!!

common sense is not so common anymore – I think we need to lock these idiots in a car and let them suffer the same fate!!!

All the details were in that car.

So True.

We need to think about other demographics than your own, people….I would never leave my kid like that, MOST UPPER-MIDDLE CLASS WELL TO DO people wouldn't, but there are people who were not raise properly and never taken from THEIR parents as THEY should have been b/c of an overworked and understaffed social/child services system. OH WAIT…OUR TAXES pay for that system….ANYONE WILLING TO PAY HIGHER TAXES so that we can make sure EACH INDIVIDUAL CHILD is properly taught the difference between right and wrong? B/C THAT WOULD BE ABOUT QUADRUPLE OR MORE to actually accomplish that…but oh no, you'd rather sit on your HIGH HORSES and tell yourselves how right you are AFTER THE FACT b/c you didn't want to do what it takes to deal with prevention in the first place…everyone wants to bitch and judge…no one wants to actually get involved and help…just sayin'.

Andrea Surprenant- Build a giant car in Death Valley and throw anyone who keeps a kid or animal in a hot car right in there.

Yes should be charged with capital murder. How fuckin stupid are these parents. Take that back they are not parents. Parents wouldn't let that happen. I say fry their asses. Both of them need to be fixed so no more children will be killed or endangered

Mr. Weidner, Did you get the "rise" that you so desired? Are you one of those "liberal-minded" lawyers that would plea for his defense. Nonetheless, BOTH of these VILLAGE IDIOTS should not be allowed to have anymore children. Unfortunately, I'm certain they both won't do NEARLY ENOUGH "TIME" in the pen.

Mr. Weidner, Did you get the "rise" that you so desired? Are you one of those "liberal-minded" lawyers that would plea for his defense. Nonetheless, BOTH of these VILLAGE IDIOTS should not be allowed to have anymore children. Unfortunately, I'm certain they both won't do NEARLY ENOUGH "TIME" in the pen.

Amen to every word Cathie.

Amen to every word Cathie.

I don't think you get Tink's drift!!!

I don't think you get Tink's drift!!!

wow..really?! more details?! okay like how much those 2 children suffered in the cars that were a 124 degrees inside…

wow..really?! more details?! okay like how much those 2 children suffered in the cars that were a 124 degrees inside…

I agree with that one!

Aree. He is a moron.

Aree. He is a moron.

Maybe someone should leave him in the car with the windows shut., in this weather for an hour.

In the case of the FATHER…yes, he "Should Have Known", but DID HE TRULY? I feel has to be considered, and first reaction is "Yes, send him away for life." THEN I read that he is ONLY 18. I KNOW I KNOW "old enough have the book thrown at him", think about today's youth…we don't really know what his parental situation was for the last 18 yrs & 18 yrs old is not much time for the "trial & error" time that a lot of inexperienced parents pick up their skills with. I'm not saying all parents use "trial & error" but so many kids today were babysat with video games & cartoons that we have NO TRUE IDEA about whether he TRULY KNEW you can't leave a kid in the car…AS MUCH AS I HATE THE IDEA OF DEFENDING HIM, IT IS HIGHLY POSSIBLE HE WAS LEFT IN THE CAR OFTEN GROWING UP WHILE HIS MOTHER RAN INTO TO GET A QUICK COUPLE ITEMS & BACK OUT. HE MAY HAVE REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. It sucks that we have children in society that have been left alone or in cars for parental convenience, but it happens and use to happen A LOT MORE OFTEN. While there is little excuse, I am more inclined to "understand" or feel a certain mercy from a certain perspective for him. WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS THE 30 YR OLD MOTHER IN THE OTHER CASE….SEND THAT BITCH AWAY….BY THE TIME YOU ARE 30 YOU HAVE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE WHOLE "LEAVING THE KID IN CAR IS NOT A SMART MOVE" ISSUE! There is nothing, NOTHING she can say to convince me that she literally thought it would be okay…even for a minute – 30 YEARS OLD? NOPE – NO EXCUSES THERE! No room for "I didn't know!" or "I didn't think it would be that big of a deal!" BULLSHIT! She needs to go away for life, right there!

THIS MADE ME SICK 2 MY STOMACH AS SOON AS I READ IT .

You 100% right Brenda.

Barbara what happened was a tragedy, a tragedy for the child's mother, who no one seems to mention, for the rest of it's family, and for it's father. As to what he would protect or be interested in, or what might have priority in his life, that is making a judgement that cannot be made unless the boy is personally known to you or me. I am a therapist, and before that worked in our NHS. I also fostered disturbed and damaged adolescents, as well as having my own children. So in response to your question 'what did he think would happen?' I would say he probably didn't 'think' at all. From the information we have we don't know what actually happened. The child may have only been in the car for a very short time, he may have just been going to a shop for a few minutes thinking that would be OK, he may have left a window open not realising the way the heat would still built up. My point is we do not know and therefore should not be jumping to knee-jerk conclusions and condemning out of hand. Let us leave the family to their grief and the justice system to do its job.

This picture makes him look like he was in the locked care already. Look at that goofy face. Can you charge someone with being a stupid asshole who also neglects children?.

Sonya Michele Jensen I have 5 grown children, 10 living grandchildren and one great grandchild due any day now at age 56! And yes I do know what it is like to lose a child. My youngest daughter lost her 3rd full term child after 4 days for no good reason because the doctor didn't act and send her to a neonatal unit only an hour away, and the child never left the hospital. So don't go there! I watch 3 of my precious grandchildren every day from 6:30am to 4:30pm because their parents HAVE to work. The youngest of the 3 has cerebal palsy and is 2 years old. She has therapists who come to her home evedry week that I work with with her. I am neither a moron or an idiot but I did almost leave her in my car when my sister and I were traveling because she was so quiet luckily my sister said don't forget the baby. I would have never forgiven myself for this if anything had happened to her. Good people make mistakes and last I knew there are NO PERFECT people out there. But if you know any let me know because I would like to meet them..You people need to stop the violent abusive conversations because unless you were in these two people's shoes you don't know what happened and why they left there precious cargo in a overheated car. It's easy to throw stones and names from the safety of your computer without knowing the person or all the facts. Are all of you who are throwing nasty coments around NEVER ever made a stupid mistake or decision. I have never met one and I know and have worked with some very smart people! Stop calling other people morons because they express a different opinion that you.

Point is that as a 'Social Worker' , which you have chosen to put on your post, I would expect your to have a professional view of the situation. And the statement you made is not a professional one. At least it would not be acceptable from a professional social worker here.

Well hell yes he should be charged with murder and the mother of the toddler should be charged with attempt of murder. People like this do not deserve to be parents!

Are you freakin kidding me you dumb ass

Are you kidding? 1 child DIED…the other suffered a SEIZURE…how much more information do you need? THESE ARE BABIES THAT WERE LEFT ALONE IN THE HEAT – SCORCHING HEAT!!!!!

I do hope that if this occured because of their own selfisness they are prosecuted to the fullest exetent of the law and if they are genuinly not bad parents then they are given the punishment that fits the crime.

I think this should be a murder. What a sad group of ppl. Is like to kick there ass

I think this should be a murder. What a sad group of ppl. Is like to kick there ass

Yes he should b charged w murder. Bc why would u knowingly leave ur children inside a vehicle w windows rolled up & tempertures reach that high? If u think thats ok then u shud b locked up!

Yes he should b charged w murder. Bc why would u knowingly leave ur children inside a vehicle w windows rolled up & tempertures reach that high? If u think thats ok then u shud b locked up!

if he left the child on purpose yes he should be charged with murder if it was an accident then no. go to kidsandcars.org & you will see how even loving parents can accidentally forget a child in a car.

People like them make me sick. Personally I'd say they deserve to be tortured then put them In prison but let the other prisoners know what they did, stand back and watch them get what they've got coming.

People like them make me sick. Personally I'd say they deserve to be tortured then put them In prison but let the other prisoners know what they did, stand back and watch them get what they've got coming.

People like them make me sick. Personally I'd say they deserve to be tortured then put them In prison but let the other prisoners know what they did, stand back and watch them get what they've got coming.

People like them make me sick. Personally I'd say they deserve to be tortured then put them In prison but let the other prisoners know what they did, stand back and watch them get what they've got coming.

People like them make me sick. Personally I'd say they deserve to be tortured then put them In prison but let the other prisoners know what they did, stand back and watch them get what they've got coming.

Small black car with doors welded shut non breakable glass and the fucking Florida keys….. leave him for dead….

Case #1 Father should be charged with Murder Then he needs to be tied up to where he cant move and locked in a extremely hot car with no way of Getting out! Case #2 Mother should be charged with attempted MURDER and done the same way as the father above and see how they like it! And I hope to God these two do not have other children.

How sad! Ther are so many people in this world who canno have children who desperately want to. And these low life pieces of garbage have that bleasing and t his is what they do. I want to lock them in a car in the middle of the desert. And yes I go hard on trifling as "parents"

Of course he should be charged with murder.its the same as suffocation.you would think that a grown ass man would have common sense.but again he was just 18 and irresponsible.its ashamed to hear this tragedy.if he got out of the car then common sense is to take your child out of the car.there's no other scenario.he should be put behind bars for life since he basically stole his own childs life away.for us responsible parents it is our duty to protect our children.imagine the suffering that poor baby went through.it just discusts me terribly.I hate 2 hear things like this.its true why need the devil when people are devils themselves.I don't feel bad one bit…pitiful

This is sick, what is wrong with these parents put them in jail never let them out. SICKOS.

totally agree put them a car and let them roast like their innocent babies.
did I have no sympathy for these people and domt need to wasting tax dollars for a trial eye for tooth for tooyh. they went back to way our prisons wouldn't be over crowed.

Like I said on my post earlier, I'd lock the sob's in the trunk of a car in the same weather, a beat down is too easy on them.

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Holly Paulus people get in a hurry have you never been in a hurry. My parents left me 15 miles away at my grandmothers one night and argued with my siblings when they said I wasn't in the car. My Dad walked right past me and said get your shoes on we're leaving on his way to the car. 7 of 8 kids got in the car and when my siblings asked if I was staying at grandmas they said no so they told my parents well she's not in the car and they said yes she is after 20 minutes they turned around and came back to get me. I was not intentionally left and my parents were very good people. I was kinda dissappointed cause I still had to go to school the next day. Think about extenuating circumstances they led to this tragedy.

@Cindy… I'm sorry that you feel that way… Your opinion is noted and no further dialogue is necessary. Thanks

anyone who would leave a baby , who cantfendfor themselves, its a crime anywayalook at it yes,, charged with murder he knew leaving that baby in car was wrong, that makes it pre meditated..howz bout ya put the babys needs in front of yourown? ya selfish self centerd bastard…

I do not understand; cannot comprehend the lack of intelligence, common sense or, at the very least, animal instinct to protect offspring. Yes, I agree, charges and sentencing equal to murder! Both these cases were in Indianapolis suburbs??? Is there something in the air or water draining intelligence???

Anabel Rosa it depends on what charges the law allows and extenuating circumstances!

Lisa Schultz I do hope that means you aren't breeding. Tink Zomby, I hope you don't have any kids because the world doesn't need any more self-righteous know-it-alls who think only they are entitled to make mistakes…..everyone else's are intentional. This man needs to be tried for manslaughter.

It pays for every person to carry a hammer to smash out the windows when they see this happening to kids.

It pays for every person to carry a hammer to smash out the windows when they see this happening to kids.

agreed…. There is no excuse for neglagent parenting… I dont careif you're out of the car for five minutes, you NEVER leave a baby alone in a car!! There are too many risks!

Regardless of all the nasty comments to the contrary, I agree more details would be needed if we are to answer a question like "should he be charged with murder". I hardly think that the average person heads out thinking, "I am going to kill my child today by leaving them in a hot car". NOW, don't start with the BS about Susan Smith driving into a lake and that because I says the "average person". NOT everyone. We have no idea as to these people's state of mind and if any of you say that you have NEVER done anything that could have endangered the lives of your children for even a second, you are liars. To attack a person's character for simply asking for more information is ignorance at its finest.

Regardless of all the nasty comments to the contrary, I agree more details would be needed if we are to answer a question like "should he be charged with murder". I hardly think that the average person heads out thinking, "I am going to kill my child today by leaving them in a hot car". NOW, don't start with the BS about Susan Smith driving into a lake and that because I says the "average person". NOT everyone. We have no idea as to these people's state of mind and if any of you say that you have NEVER done anything that could have endangered the lives of your children for even a second, you are liars. To attack a person's character for simply asking for more information is ignorance at its finest.

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Sorry…no cure for stupid.

When one choose to procreate, they better damn well take their responsibility seriously. What we don't need is MORE EXCUSES. These are defenseless little beings. There's no such VIP that should be in that much of a "hurry" Mrs. Warfle.

He definately looked like he was on some drugs!!!

Weidner: please identify yourself … A. Defense Attorney? B. Troll? C. Dolt? D. All of the Above?

They all need to be locked in a hot car! WTF is wrong with people?

All I'm going to say is that God has that baby now and she is in a better place. I know he is watching over the other little girl and for the father and the mother I pray that you find God and ask for forgiveness for your sins. For those of you on here judging these two you have no right to you were not there you do not know the whole story the reason why they were left alone all we know is what has been reported and it doesn't give all the details on the situation so judge not for yes be judged. To the families that have lost this sweet innocent baby girl I pray that you have comfort and peace in this time of need you will be in my prayers. For the families of the sweet innocent baby girl that survived I also pray that you have peace and comfort in this hard time you will also be in my prayers. For all of you on here judging these two without all the facts I am also praying for you. Hope ya'll have a blessed day and may God be with each and every one of you.

@Margaret Warfle yes BUT you were with your grandparents not in a blazing hot car with no one to help you!!

I cant believe people are saying "lets get all the facts" um, what more facts do they need?!!!

even if it's accidental he can and will be charged with negligence, accidental manslaughter and probably a bunch of other stuff. The law is not about intent it's about whether you did something or not.

I wonder how much more information Mr Weidner would need if it was his child or grand child in that car!

I wonder how much more information Mr Weidner would need if it was his child or grand child in that car!

I pray that all parents use their God-given brains when they choose to procreate.

I pray that all parents use their God-given brains when they choose to procreate.

I pray that all parents use their God-given brains when they choose to procreate.

Yes he should be charged with murder. Unless he is a complete moron, he would know leaving an infant in a car in 104 can cause death.. yet he willingly did it, which means it was premeditated. Premeditate, the child died= murder.

I think if you're caught red-handed-guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt-you have no right to a trial and executed upon sentencing especially when it comes to innocent defenseless children!

I don't think he was remorseful, why would you leave your infant in a HOT ASS CAR, tied down?? He obviously didn't care about the baby. I take my one year old EVERYWHERE with me, I don't care if it takes an extra minute to buckle and unbuckle his car seat

it's stated in the article Nita. What a stupid question, really?? he killed his baby, on purpose, because he didnt care enough to take the child out of a hotter than hell car and was away long enough for it to die

Bet he's the type of person that wouldn't leave a dog in the car..

Of course he should be charged.

Cindy, let me put you in a 124* car and see how you feel. I don't buy the "he did not realize what would happen" are you kidding me? He is a parent, he is of age, and he sure as heck wasn't sitting in the car was he? BTW Im not christian either

Absolutely..nothing less than murder for both parents! Better yet, let's lock them in vehicles til the die!

Whata the hell information do you need moron…a baby is dead

the law is if you can "prove beyond a reasonable doubt" .. which is clear as day in these cases

hell yeah lock him in a car. I would never leave my child in the car. n even when we go places in the car n driving I leave the air on blast cuz its that hot, I live in vegas lol.

Really glad our constitution was written way back before everybody became such a fan of cruel and unusual punishment. The guys a moron, but God be with him. If he has any conscience at all, being locked in a roasting vehicle would be a relief compared to having to live with that type of guilt.

if he doesn't get the death penalty, then he will taken care of once he is jail. Prisoners have their own sense of justice when it comes to people like this. But the same goes for the Mother who left her child in her car. Now my question is…where was the mother of the first child?

Disgusting!!!

Disgusting!!!

This thread of OPINION is no threat to the authorities doing their job … "Accidentally" leaving a child in the oven that a car becomes in this heat is a crime of GROSS neglect resulting in death … "Accidental" is no defense in a case like this … If a person is of such feeble state of mind that they cannot provide the most minimal protections for the safety of a child, a child should not be in their custody. If someone takes on the responsibility of a helpless child, they also take on the risk of consequences for neglect. If, as the original question (should murder be charged?) presumes, investigation shows gross neglect resulting in death, then YES most of us are of the opinion that murder (or, perhaps reckless homicide or manslaughter) should be charged … and, of course, due process will result in a judgement of guilty or not guilty … and, if guilty, appropriate sentencing. In the meantime, this inconsequential thread of opinion is going to debate and call out ignorant, stupid statements …

Of course it isn't murder. There was no malice aforethought. There was clearly no thought whatsoever, and it was criminal neglect that deserves severe punishment, but to suggest that this was "murder" simply shows no understanding of the law. Again, I do not condone what this douchebag did, but mere stupidity and selfish neglect of your child does not fit any legal definition of murder.

"Stupidity" may not be a legal term … but "Negligence" is … and gross negligence, such as this, is a byproduct of stupidity …

You are absolutely right, but the tide of emotion here, coupled with a general lack of understanding of the law, leads the masses to scream "murder" even though that term just doesn't apply here.

You are absolutely right, but the tide of emotion here, coupled with a general lack of understanding of the law, leads the masses to scream "murder" even though that term just doesn't apply here.

Angel, I think you're on to something here. Why should dad live in a jail cell with air conditioning, 3 meals a day, recreation, etc. when he didn't allow his very own little girl to feel this comfort? He let her swelter in a very torturous condition. No a/c for him, let him rot in hell on earth before he faces the real hotbox later.

Eve-Marie – I reiterate, until all the facts are known we cannot judge what happened. It is surprising in fact how often people make mistakes, do things that it would seem they would know better than to do. Here many dogs die in cars, people leave them with a parially open window and think they will be fine and are then horrified when they find them dead. I don't know what happened in this case, I don't know if this boy, because that is all he is, was just careless, or whether he was exhausted and stressed. I don't know if he left the child for a long time, or if he wanted to make a quick stop somewhere to shop and didn't want to disturb a sleeping child. From a position of maturity we do know what might happen, but he might just not have thought it through. My point is, we do not know. There will be an investigation, and the justice system will deal with this. I do find the knee jerk reactions in this forum disturbing, it is mob mentality, and mob mentality is always,always, dangerous.

He might leave the dog in the car, but he might spare the dog by leaving a window partially open. He's a moron.

A BIG YES on the father WTF was he thinking.

Charge the first with murder and the second with attempted murder.

ABSOLUTELY! Put him in solitary confinement! So a/c, no windows, no see-through door, no water forever! What a heartless bas****!

you're right, of course. If things are the way I imagine, I'd be equally enraged….but we should let reason rule our decisions….not emotion. Neglect, stupidity even, and bad decisions may mean one is not fit to be a parent….but to claim murder or state execution with a shaken fist is one thing. Executions and criminal penalties must be laid out with a sober and cool hand, or we are just as bad as animals.

For sure.

Ok, one child was killed and one was injured. Both were left by parents brought up by our school system. If you want to charge someone charge our government for not requiring students to take parenting classes in high school. They also should run multiple ads, daily, during heat waves. When I was young and stupid, I left my children sleeping in the car. Yes, it was decades ago, and life was waaaayy safer then, but the fact is I did it and so did everyone else. Then a couple of kids and pets died and we realized how hot the inside of a car could get. Then kids started being stolen out of cars so we stopped leaving them in cars even in nice weather. These people were stupid–not criminals. Yes they should pay, but in some way that helps society. Have them rock newborns in hispitals for 400 hour. Make them take parenting classes. Neuter them so they can't procreate anymore. The one thing that isn't going to solve anything is putting them in prison for being stupid. If stupidity was a criminal offense we would all be in jail.

Michael Weidner My opinion is not based on my religious beliefs. !!!!! It's based on human nature.!! I believe in God , but I am NO saint. !!!! And Cindy Huxley, As far as our Justiice system goes, it's not working, the criminals have NO FEAR, there punishment is not suitable any more… This is lodging for most, 3 meals a day, all the drugs & sex they want, TV, Libraries, workout rooms. YOU CALL THIS JUSTICE… NOT ME… !!!! It's time we give them what they deserve. An Eye for an Eye. No more Mr. Nice guy…. Treat them like the scum they are. God please forgive me for being so judgemental… I know it is not my place. But when it comes to children and animals, I am enraged with HATE towards the accused, especially when it is so apparent he knew what he was doing.

Gross negligence is still not premeditated murder, it is manslaughter.

you would think since more than one senseless person does this EVERY SINGLE SUMMER. …that maybe, just maybe they would think twice. I HATE when anyone, but especially children fall victim to selfishness and sheer stupidity,! Sad!

Unfortunately, people do not fully understand the law until they break it.

And when the law is broken, the full weight of justice comes against the person until they can prove the need for mercy and that is where the judge comes in. Bottom line- he killed his child and the law requires punishment, even though being without your child should be sufficient.

I think he should be charged, anyone knows not to leave there child in the car at all, let alone in 104degree weather.

Yes put him away and loose the key!!!

Yes i do who would leave there baby in the car for a long time in that kind of heat that is a pour exause of a father in my opion

I think he is in shock. He is in hell…I don't read more than that into his mugshot.

maybe you should defend him then

Linda …What you said….Yup! What could be so important….NOTHING.

that's fine, Gail. And how do you propose we do that? Shall we take people out and end their lives based on the reports of others? If you're going to end someone's life….you have to be sure…don't u? Hate and Fear will not even things out in the end…..if we want that kind of justice then we should send all the cops and judges home….and do the same things they do in Afganistan and other lawless places. Cheers.

this story where parents were charged with child neglect & their child passed away-
http://www.abc-7.com/story/16976113/parents-plead-no-contest-to-hot-car-death

Here's how the law defines murder…

1) At common law, murder was defined as killing another human being with malice aforethought. Malice aforethought is a legal term of art, that encompasses the following types of murder:

"Intent-to-kill murder".

"Grievous-bodily-harm murder" – Killing someone in an attack intended to cause them grievous bodiliy harm. For example, if a person fatally stabbed someone, even if she only intended to wound her victim, she could still be executed.

"Felony-murder" – Killing someone while in the process of committing a felony. Note that at common law, there were few felonies, and all carried the death penalty. For example, at common law, robbery was a felony. So if a robber accidentally killed someone during a robbery, the robber could be executed.

"Depraved heart murder" – Killing someone in a way that demonstrates a callous disregard for the value of human life. For example, if a person intentionally fires a gun into a crowded room, and someone dies, the person could be convicted of depraved heart murder.

These definitions are valuable because they inform subsequent reforms of American murder law.

2)The Pennsylvania Method:

The Pennsylvania Method is a catch-all term for systems of classifying murder by degree. Certain, specified types of murder were first-degree murder, and carried the death penalty. All other types of murder were second-degree murder, which did not carry the death penalty.

First-Degree Murder includes:

Willful, deliberate, and premeditated murder.

Particularly heinous types of murder. For example, in the original Pennsylvania statute, this included poisoning and lying in wait to kill someone by ambush.

Felony-murder, but only for certain listed felonies. For example, in the original Pennsylvania statute, the only eligible felonies were arson, rape, robbery, and burglary.

At present, most states either use the Pennsylvania Method or a similar method to categorize murder.

3) The Model Penal Code:

The Model Penal Code moved away from the traditional common law approach to murder. Under the Model Penal Code, the following constitute murder:

Purposefully or knowingly killing another human being. This functions much the same as the common law rule against intentional murder.

Killing another human being in circumstances showing extreme recklessness. This functions much the same as the common law's depraved heart murder rule.

Felony-murder. The Model Penal Code disfavors but does not eliminate applying the death penalty for killings that occur during the commission of a felony. Instead of framing the rule as a felony-murder rule, it creates a rebuttal presumption that killings that occur during the commission of listed dangerous felonies show extreme recklessness for purposes of the code's other murder provisions.

My conclusion:

While recklessness is clearly demonstrated in these cases, proving intent is another matter. Obviously the 18 year old father Joshua Stryzanski INTENDED to leave his baby girl alone in the car, but the prosecution team would have a very difficult time trying to prove his intent was to cause harm or death to his child. In all likelihood that is not the case. This is not the same thing as the example given in the definition of common law murder where a person intentionally fires a gun into a crowded room. Proving the intention to harm or kill someone in that instance becomes much more plausible by the prosecution team.

There are many here who say this young man should be given the same fate as his daughter. Several people have made reference to scripture saying "an eye for an eye." The references can be found in Exodus chapter 21, Leviticus chapter 24, and Deuteronomy chapter 19. Those scriptures are references to Levitical law, and the problem with quoting Levitical law from the bully pulpit of this comment thread, or anywhere else for that matter, is the fact that Jesus was crucified to fulfill the law and brought forth a new covenant so that our sins may be forgiven. Not just some of our sins, but the sin of all humanity. That includes the sinfully reckless death of that young man's baby girl. The last word Jesus gives regarding an eye for an eye is found in Matthew 5:38-39 which reads…

38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also."

Under Levitical law, if someone sinned unintentionally, a blood sacrifice had to be brought to the anointed priest and presented as a burnt offering to the Lord in order to cleanse the offender that he may me granted forgiveness. Similarly, if a person was made unclean by touching anything ceremonially unclean, such as the carcass of unclean wild animals or unclean livestock, even though he is unaware of it, he has become unclean and is guilty, and must be made clean again through the ritual process of a burnt offering. Even worse, having sexual relations during a woman's cycle was forbidden, and severe judgment was upon those who would commit adultery or engage in homosexual relations with another. So it's a good thing those who are in Christ are no longer judged according to the law, because so many of us would suffer dire consequences for our sins.

These parents deserve to be punished for what they have done, but killing them is not going to bring back the baby girl, and it really won't even satisfy justice. Please pardon the unintended pun, but the death penalty would be "overkill" to say the least. Not only that, but who's to say this young father, who has made a terrible and grievous error in judgment, won't serve his time and then write a book about it and embark on a speaking tour that ultimately winds up saving the lives of countless infants and toddlers in the future. God has a plan for everyone, and we would be wise to not react with emotion and stay out of the way of His plans.

It amazes me how some people are so.
selfish. What could have been so important, Um nothing.. Take your kids with you in places it won't kill you, but unfortunately it took a little baby girls. If you are too damn lazy to get your kids out of the car, YOU SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAD THEM! YES, No HELL YES he should be charged with murder!~.

NEGLECT? That's a slap on the wrist for this murderer. And that's exactly what he is. He deservers what all murderers deserve, but in so many cases since it's just a baby and he was the parent the charges aren't the same as if he were to have killed an adult stranger. Sad but true.

Lori u are right about this one, kids that can't bother to watch there own kids should not be having them!!!

Yes, its murder. Never leave a child unattended at all no matter what! A baby left in a car. That infant never had the chance to live. Irresponsible parents. They

Nita Herring Nobody had to "be there" to understand what happened. Nobody FORCED this idiot to leave his 3 month old infant strapped in his carseat and WALK AWAY in over 100 degree temperatures!! What possible excuse, NITA, do you have for this criminal? You can bet he wouldn't sit in a car without air conditioning, maybe with the windows cracked just a little for any amount of time, and I'll bet the doors were locked, of course. Because he wouldn't want anybody to steal his baby. Would have been the best thing that could have happened in this case!

Yes.there should be a charge called "murderous stupidity".Put him in a running car and turn on the heat.

He was obviously stoned at the time.Look at his eyes after the arrest.

Eva-Marie Yee most children are left accidentally by loving parents these parents are normally exhausted & not in heir routine, yes it can be prevented however people need to spread the education on this.. allways open your back door each time you get out, have caregivers call when you are late or didnt drop a child off, put everything you need for the day in backseat.
I suggest everyone read the below article before making judgements-
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/27/AR2009022701549_2.html?sid=ST2009030602446

Tink Zomby did they do this on purpose if so thats horrible.. why would you do that its like putting the child into a oven..

Yes they both should. They know better than to leave a chold alone regardless of the conditions of the weather
Make them suffer the same

What is wrong with you guys………these are precious little people……….use your god given sense………….DO NOT LEAVE ANY ONE IN YOUR CAR UNATTENDED…………………….

Can we say stupid u never leave a child In the car I mean Damn we have heard this kind of stuff since we were kids of u can't take care of a child don't have one

That's so messed up! God people like that make me so freaking mad. It is freaking common sense not to leave your baby in the car un attended no matter what temp it is! Ugh I hope he gets charged! He deserves it.

Mother f&%#ing idiot should be shot right between the legs so he can't have anymore kids and then left in a hot vehicle to suffer and die

Maybe people should just stop being judgemental, should let this family grieve, and should leave the police and justice system to do its job.

Can't charge him with stupidity. If he had shaken or beaten the baby he would be charged with murder what makes this different. Who leaves a 3 month old ALONE in a car in the first place regardless of the weather.

He definitely needs to be in jail until he is 25 is hopefully an adult. This guy was way too young to be a father!

I would put a cap on that of 3-5 years, but then again I am for decriminalization of all non-violent crime. This is a sad case, but I doubt his intent was to kill the child. He was just an idiot. 3-5 years seems reasonable for idiocy in this case.

Gail Jenkins Maples Why is it that people who say they are Christian are so full of hate and anger, and so judgemental. I left the church a long time ago but I do remember what I thought was valuable and good in its teachings. Do not judge, be loving and forgiving, wonder what happened to those teachings?
According to those teachings no one could be considered 'scum', because every individual was a child of god and therefore to be valued as such, hate the sin but love the sinner. Well as I say I left a long time ago, presumably the teachings have changed. On a secular basis I would point out that he as you say accused, not convicted yet of anything, and how is it apparent he knew what he was doing. It is not apparent to me from the information available. It may or may not be the case, and that is for the police to ascertain and the justice system to rule on.

Christian, I understand what you are saying. I am a compasionate, loving and giving person who is just simply FEED UP….. With all those who think they have the right to take another's life !! And yet I want to do the same to them. Which really makes me NO Better then them. !!!! And no I don't want to live like they do in lawless countries. But I do feel that the punishment these parasites are recieving is NOT nearly the punishment they deserve. And I have to apologize for being so Judgemental, it's not my place. I pray for all those who are suffering from this horable loss. Somehow we have to reclaim control over the evil that is spreading rapidly. !!!!!!! Not much of a time for Cheers though.

people are so dumb maybe someone should leave him in a damn car with windows closed in over 100 degree heat…

I wonder if it were your son who negligently left your granddaughter in the car, if you all would be screaming for him to die as well. That family is now not only dealing with the horrific death of the baby, but also the public for sentencing him to death without a fair trial.

I just don't understand the ignorance of people…..He should be convicted of murder due to stupidity.

Wth is wrong with these parents!?! Heck ya!! Charge him with everything possible! And the mother! Take her child away, but that was probably what she wanted anyway.

I agree — but first lock them in a hot car and let them have the experience.

I could not agree more….

some people just should not be aloud to have children

What else can you call it? Yes, Murder.

fu bitch it is MURDER do you not u/s this?

yes he should be charged with murder.

WELL WELL WELL so you want to preachj to us, apparently you do not know your bible, it6 says "an eye for an eye the ten commandments saY thou shall not kill ANY SIMPLIER THAN THAT? LEARN YOUR RELIGION BEFORE YOU PREACH the baby died WHAT MORE FACTS DO YOU NEED? theree is no excuse this is an UNforgivable act & God will judge him, just like all of us will be judged

He needs to be neutered! Stupid shouldn't procreate!!!

I say an eye for an eye no excuse, you kill you die period. how can you justify? negligence is not an excuse, it's a cop out

WHY because we want TRUE justice? the mob is what we need

Stupid people shouldn't breed. Castrate him and lock him up. That's better treatment then the child got.

you call yourself a therapist? why in hell are you defending these ppl? a baby died an eye for an eye there is no excuse for IGNORANCE they both left babies in the car they both knew what they were doing

that's the problem the system does not work never has never will go back to vigilantie days

THE baby died father was responsible, baby died = MURDER HELLO?

agreed.

really would you leave your dog in a car at 104. yes young and stupid and as they grow will forever pay the price, but come on….

Really, are you kidding me 3-5 years !!!!!! and Karen , until he is 25. Do you really think this will make a difference ? I have always thought of myself as Open minded, but this is BLOWING MY MIND.!!!!! Making an excuse that he is to young, I know 10yr olds that know better then that !! There has been no sign of remorse by this suspect,, If he is truly that stupid he should be locked up for life , for he is a threat to anyone he comes in contact with. I sure hope you guys are not on the jury. You have to be held accountalbe for your actions, even if you are STUPID.!!!!!!!!

Gail, I agree, the only reason I said 25 was because I figure that amount of time in jail just might help him grow up and find remorse. As a mom I know what I would think I wanted to do, but Gail, if everyone who wished death on someone, there would be no "someones" to kill. I believe that there should be consequences but I do not believe in eye for an eye it only breeds more death. When you are my age, you think differently, you are just starting out, please don't put out anymore hate into the Universe, it is already full of it.

Yet another person in favor of our continued reign as the #1 country in the world for people in prison. The system is a failure. The punishments are too extreme. People don't get rehabilitated, they are institutionalized…meaning they can't function in society if/when they get out. That's not what prison systems are for. They are not designed to provide the population with a hands-free smug arrogance that someone is "getting what they deserve." I think life in prison is excessive and really.. what is the point of life in prison? Why not just kill them if you're going to be that harsh? And just an fyi… jurors don't determine sentences..only guilt. The courts would be lucky to have either one of us on a jury.

the father looks drunk or stoned in that photo. anyway he is too stupid to breed, sterilize him.

yes I believe he should have the death pent.

How can you leave your child in a car. I am a mother of 4. I would die myself before I would do anything like this! They guy should be put in the drivers seat and tied in and turned towards the sun so he gets the heat in a more direct on him. He need to be gone. people like that will just never grow up!

Ik! Cruelty! They should get what they give.

He needs to be taken to frostbitten temperatures in a metal box, then have the temperatures risen to scald & blister his naked body & then back down again , & over & over again until his body gives out.. Keep him alive long enough to suffer the worst fate imaginable!

YES HE SHOULD NIKI!!!!!

thats what I say too

You have that right Thom, I am in favor of PUNISHING those who commit crimes !!! Otherwise where would this country be ?? Our punishments or NOT EXTREME enough !! 80% of the prison population can NOT be rehabilitated !! So what is your solution, give them a slap on the hand & a few therapy appointments and What tell them to be good ???? Yes there are some cases were people have the ability to change. But this is a Small % of prisoners. I am for ANYTHING that will STOP all this senceless KILLING…. I know who determines the SENTENCING. !!!! My nephew was murdered and his KILLER recieve 43yrs NO chance of parole. !!! He made a choice to shot my nephew not 1, or 2 but 3 times . His life was taken at 33yrs of age. The killer had NO respect for life as most of the prisoners and at the age of 29yrs, he will have plenty on time to think about my nephew.. If he makes it he will be 72yrs old. & hopefully not a threat to anyone . EVERYONE MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS…!! All I know for sure is that something has to change to make them FEARFUL OF THE PUNISHMENT !!! They have NO FEAR……

Karen Luerssen Yes, my emotions do get the better of me in cases like this , stating they should be Roasted to Death. (sorry, I still feel that way) I am by no means trying to put hate out into the Universe !!! Why do you think I am so upset, , because all you hear anymore is all this POINTLESS KILLING & it NEEDS TO STOP…. I am going to be 50 in 2013 & I consider myself to be a very compassionate , caring & LOVING person.,. But our future is very scary if it keeps up like this. How old are you before you start thinking differently ?? I pray for the families who are suffering due to this senceless loss.

So cynical and hate filled for one so young.

Yes, when you have it happen to you you might understand the hate !!!

you betcha

This is where my hate comes from, I was molested for 2 years by my bother who was 8 yrs older then me. I never told out of fear. He has NEVER been punished for something they put people in prison for !!!! My nephew was murdered at 33 . And YES AND I AM CYNICAL & FULL OF HATE FOR PEOPLE LIKE THIS. I have had many years of therapy & yet I still feel that each person has a choice. To do RIGHT or WRONG. Those who do WRONG NEED TO BE PUNISHED…. What makes you so Judgemental ?? Karen ??

Gail, please don't think it can't understand, I have faced many challenges and the biggest one I have ever had to face was forgiving those that harmed me, I hope it doesn't take you as long as it did me. I am sending you all the love I can and I hope your heart heals sooner than later.

I think you care about the issue which is nice(not being disingenuous.. legitimate compliment), but at the same time you are way too emotionally involved to be able to take a rational stance. You state opinions as facts without any evidence to back them up. You can't tell me 80% of criminals can't be rehabbed… You made that up on the spot.

[Tongue-in-Cheek] If you want to talk about people being held accountable for their actions, how about you turn yourself in for negligent homicide of the English language?

fuck you how is that for the english language . ? Nothing more to say to you.

Karen, Thank you for your compassion . The only thing that gives me true peace is putting things in God's hands . And knowing what goes around comes around. Will I ever not want JUSTICE ?? How did you forgive them Karen ?? I go on thinking I have moved on and then something like this comes along and I'm filled with so much emotion , I don't always see straight. Thanks Karen, Sorry if I offened you in any way.

YES! Maybe then more parents wouldn't "forget" that they have a child in the car!

Babies having babies! 18 years old! Not knowing the details I am thinking he didn't use common sense.

In the case of the 30 yr. old mom she should be mature enough to know better. The 18 yr. old is just too young to have a baby and not mature enough to realize the consequences. Need to know more details. I used to live in that area. Yes, it gets VERY hot there.

stup f

That is not sensible Tina – if the justice system is not working, and I do not agree it isn't, then use your status as a citizen of a democracy to bring pressure to bear to change things. I am sure you do not want to return to the days of lynch mobs, the KKK, or any form of vigilantism.

Unbelievable

You have posted this in other places. I suspect you have no real understanding of what that would actually mean. I am not going to argue with you because you are not open to other thinking at this time of your life. But I promise you that if we ever do return to a world without a justice system and with mob rule you will know how terribly wrong you are.

Tina – an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind – I believe Ghandi said that, and they don't come much wiser than Ghandi.

This needs to be investigated.WHAT IF this was deliberate??

Some people need to be spayed and neutered! That's what I feel the first action should be with "parents" like this!

stupid stupid! have them sit in their car abt 15 min, then put them in prison to think abt it

MORE DETAILS: In Fishers, Ind., where a passerby at a shopping center noticed a small girl alone in a parked Ford Explorer. Police broke out a window to pull the 16-month-old girl from the SUV. She suffered a seizure before medics transported her to Peyton Manning Children's Hospital in Indianapolis, said Fishers Police Public Information Officer Tom Weger. Officials said the temperature inside the car after the window was broken was 124 degrees.
124 DEGRESS!
The child's mother, Meg Trueblood, 30, of Fishers, was shopping in the Simply Chic clothing store at the center for about an hour while her daughter was left in the locked SUV, Weger said. Trueblood was preliminarily charged with felony neglect of a child and was being held in the Hamilton County Jail, Weger said. He said Trueblood made a statement to police but, "she didn't appear to be fully coherent. That'll be part of the investigation."

Yes, I did say 80% of prision population is Not able to be rerhabilitated. NO I didn't take a toll. But I would guess that I am pretty accurate …Where do you get all you info ?? Have you read any papers or watched the news lately ?? Oh what are you and ENGLISH MAJOR ???? SO SORRY If my grammer isn't up to par for your standards. BUT LETTING CRIMINALS LOSE ON THE STREETS IS. !!!!!! THOM, I pray you never have to endure the pain of a loved one being murdered !!!! And one more thing, FU*K YOU !! HOW'S THAT FOR THE ENGLISH language. ??????? Have a nice day Thom……

Yes, I did say 80% of prision population is Not able to be rerhabilitated. NO I didn't take a toll. But I would guess that I am pretty accurate …Where do you get all you info ?? Have you read any papers or watched the news lately ?? Oh what are you and ENGLISH MAJOR ???? SO SORRY If my grammer isn't up to par for your standards. BUT LETTING CRIMINALS LOSE ON THE STREETS IS. !!!!!! THOM, I pray you never have to endure the pain of a loved one being murdered !!!! And one more thing, FU*K YOU !! HOW'S THAT FOR THE ENGLISH language. ??????? Have a nice day Thom……

We really need to focus on EDUCATING these people…. I think part of their punishment should be going around telling their stories and hopefully preventing future occurences!!

I saw someone get arrested when they left their dog in the car because the dog was unresponsive. I believe it is called felony cruelty to animals.

I don't know the exact details on why he left her in the car but from what I had heard her left her to word on a dirt bike! You shouldn't leave a kid in a car for a minute let alone for a extended period of time. I live in Indianapolis and this is just about 20 miles east. This was the 2nd baby left in the car that day. The first baby was 16 months luckily survived but was left in a SUV while her mother went shopping for a hour in a retail store in Fishers. They took the baby in and the baby was having seizures. That was a 30 yr old woman..my 9 yr old nephew would know better. If cops didn't get there that baby would of died as well possibly. Both sets of parents needs to be locked up for life. She only got a class B Felonly for Neglect….well what if someone didn't get there in time? So now she gets off easy? smh!

Babies having Babies…

What is wrong with people?

Yes he should be charged with murder! Anyone who leaves a child in a hot car to die should get life in prison.

Fuck it. Leave them in a hot car to die as well.

felony child endangerment and involuntary man slaughter

Ok I know I'm going to be inviting negative responses but here goes anyway..these are neighbors as well as friends of ours. Josh is not a bad person. He did a bad thing. This is a wonderful Christian family. Our kids grew up together. Josh is not a "stoner" as some have suggested because of his mug shot. That is a look of anguish and grief. He knows he made a horrible choice and will have to live with it. I have seen him with that baby. He had never been abusive or neglectful. He always had her in his arms holding her and smiling at her. He loved this baby. He's a kid himself and made a horrible horrible choice that day. Nothing the law can do to him will be greater than what he has to live with! He is already serving his own life sentence. I'm am praying for the whole family. Yes, even him. It is a tragedy for all involved.

Yes the father in the first case should be Charged for murder? No one should leave a baby, animal or elder person in the car when it is hot out.

Yes the father in the first case should be Charged for murder? No one should leave a baby, animal or elder person in the car when it is hot out.

Well I don't know him Amy you are right and I do know you and that you are a great person and you wouldn't take someone side unless you really beilieved they were right. I will never understand how he thought that was ok to leave the baby in the car for that long. I don't know how long the baby was out there but the 16 mo old was in the car for a hour and was having seizures now maybe because this baby is younger it was less time. But to me I can't see how that would make any sense in his mind whatsoever.

I shouldn't comment on the dirt bike that is just what I seen in post not official so that is hearsay…so for that I apologize. I don't know the situation why she was left I just can't understand why anyone would that's all

You better believe he should be charged with murder! And the other one, attempted murder!

There is zero excuse for them! No details necessary except "how long will they be out of humanity's way?"

Who says I'm preaching I stated my opinion just like everyone of you have but I didn't judge these two people for there wrong doings yes a baby did die but you don't know what state of mind the father was in you don't know if he has something wrong with him or if he is just as normal as you. We don't know all the facts yes the ten commandments does say that but it trully could have been an accident but we don't know that at this moment. And btw I do know my Bible I am a true Christian I am at church everytime the doors are open and I do believe that God will forgive these two for there actions if they ask him because he has a plan for everyone of us he knows whats gonna happen and there is nothing we can do to change it. Maby you should get back in your Bible and study some more. Have a blessed day. May God with each and everyone of you that judge these two y'all need to ask him for forgiveness cause y'all are in the wrong.

It's easy to cast judgement but I bet if it were one of your family members or friends who made the same horrible mistake it would be different thinking. I'm not justifying what he did. It was a horrible thing. I'm saying he is NOT a bad person.

It's a tragedy felt by all Lindsey. It's just heartbreaking.

Tasha, Tasha, Tasha. . . . . .I must not be a true Christian, as you put it, but what I do know: I have been working close to 15 yrs. now guarding these village idiots, murderers, rapists, child molesters, terrorists, armed robbers, etc. . . . .and I'm pretty certain that just because you tote a bible around does NOT AFFORD anyone GRACE for not protecting God's children. I happen to not frequent Church to often because prison runs 24/7 and I work alot. Perhaps you can become these two asshole's NEW FRIEND and SAVE THEM. =)

At Gail Jenkins Maples..yes you really shouldn't judge on someone's looks. This "critter" is my neighbor and family friend. Just because his face isn't screwed up in agony doesn't mean he feels no remorse. This is a wonderful Christian family. He is not a bad person. He did a bad thing!!!

It was his child, he was supposed to be taking care of him and make sure he was safe. He neglected his responsibility as a father and his child died as the result of his neglect. I agree with the posts that say he should be locked in a car and left in the heat. He should be put in jail first and have to wait for a day with temps over 100 then lock him in the car and park it in an areas where there is no shade and leave him there to die. He really looks like a fine specimen of a responsible father, doesn't he?

Hey Amy Coffey Brown, I am not the ONLY person on the page that judged him by his mug shot.!!! I think you should also address those people as well.!! I also apoligized for being so judgemental, because it is not our place !! And I would also like to express my deepest remorse for those who feel this horriable loss. I will admit It is very difficult not to judge things by appearances . But I will continue to work on changing that !!

look, I don't excuse what he did AT ALL. But people calling for "death" so quickly only shows we're still a mob mentality….ruled by our emotions. He must pay for what he did, and he will. If he was actually trying to kill his child and make like an accident….EXECUTION. If he's just stupid….well, do we kill all stupid peopole then? We'd have to open up concentration camps….

You lost the argument yesterday with your "fuck you" which is essentially saying "I lost because I don't have anything worthwhile to say other than swearing at you."

Please don't pray for me. I would never do something as insulting, worthless, and inane as that to you. Also I'm not an English major…. but I can still spell basic words, and theoretically so should you based on the fact that FB has a built-in spellchecker… I guess you were so convinced that "senceless" was what you meant, you ignored the common sense RED underlining which meant you were WRONG(among many other errors). I did a study on prison abolition last semester so I have all the data you want. I also have recidivism rates………I'll wait for you to look that word up………… Got it? Good. Now pay attention. Intelligence and dissent are nothing to hide. If I have something to contradict your outrageous "feelings"…. I will do so. I base my world view on science and logic. Emotion is for relationships… not legislation. If you don't even have basic grammar skills, how do you expect anyone to take you seriously? You can't even articulate an argument without resorting to "fuck you!" and multiple misspellings. It's somewhat sad considering you are going to be "50 next year". I'm thinking you should have a rudimentary working knowledge of the English language by now. Maybe you should focus on that deficiency before you start pretending you are smart enough to mete out justice.

You are basically an emotional idiot. You have no other purpose than to run your mouth spewing a bunch of unverifiable trash. You expect people to show you respect for caring, but you can't even finish with a declarative sentence stating your meaning. It becomes very hard to respect Karen's wishes of positivism when you're simply not equipped with the skills needed to actually have an argument with you.

Perhaps I could I would love to talk to them. Have a blessed day may God bless each and everyone of you. Cathie sorry you don't get to go to church but thank God everyday that you have a job cause most people don't. you will be in my prayers that he keep you safe while you are at work. Just remember Jesus loves you no matter what we are his children.

It is so sad that parents can be this selfish. He should absolutely be charged with murder.

Cindy Huxley, You are assuming I am Christian because I believe in God ?? I'm not a member of any church or organized religion !!! And Yes, I am ANGRY & HATEFUL & JUDGEMENT, IN CASES LIKE THIS !!!! And I work everyday to be less judgemental, angry & hateful. But you don't know me or what I have been through so as far as Judging goes, you need to take a look in the mirror. You are very judgemental towards the CHURCH……..Really. So yes I do not know all the info, So I will wait for more info before I make anymore assumptions. Don't for get to look in the mirror CINDY.

If it was a wealthier person, would they have been charged? They may or may not did it intentionally buy just BC their young doesn't mean they don't luv their kids. Ppl need to stop stereotyping, ridiculous.

Micheal,You aren't any better calling people haters and tea partiers just because this hits an emotional chord for most people and so what if they characterize themselves as chistains.I would charaterize you as a jaskass.

Gail Jenkins Maples I don't think you should judge someone from what they look like in a picture.

some day, Mrs. Hammond, stupidity will be cast into an unqenchable flame by the Lord on high. For the Lord does not tolerate foolishness.

Kira Cahall, I don't think you finished reading what I wrote…… I also don't care what you THINK. !!!!

its deff sad…

I believe an eye for an eye.. why should we continue to pay taxes for these animals to continue to live, eat, sleep.

Hell ya.. Stupid f$&@!!!!!

what truly amazes me is that children should never be left alone in a car, no matter what the weather is.. he should have to feel and suffer what the baby went thru.. although he looked stoned or drunk in the picture. he didn't care about the baby.. and why would the mother leave the baby with someone who wasnt capable of watching her.

Yes the man in the first article should go to jail, not just jail but death row in prison because he is guilty of killing that precious baby!

its called checking the back seat! I have a 19 month old girl I check the back seat EVERY TIME I get out rather she is with me or not you make it a habit so these so called accidents don't happen, and how stupid do you have to be if you go in someplace take your kid. you wouldn't leave them on a street curb alone so why in a car and one that is over 100 degrees at that. These parents tortured these babies they deserve the same done to them.

Absolutly charge him with murder! Something he did resulted in a beautiful, innocent life being taken away! He should rot in hell (after rotting in a car with the windows rolled up in the same type of temperature!) Now of course this won't happen, so I'll be happy with a sterilization! That should become a law!

baby jerky anyone?

uh you left me in the car the other day with the windows up see what could have happend!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is wrong with those parents now days…It is NOT okay to leave your child in the vehicle unsupervisted FOR ANY REASON!