Lil Phat Shooting: Rap World Reacts to 19-Year-Old’s Killing
The shooting yesterday of 19-year-old rapper Lil Phat in an Atlanta-area hospital parking lot rocked the rap world, as news of the up-and-comer’s death hit Twitter.
It feels like a long time ago that gun violence and rap were heavily linked, and the late 90′s drama culminating in the deaths of rappers Tupac Shakur and Biggie Small seemed to have quelled the outbreaks of rap-related crime that marked the era.
Lil Phat’s shooting death, sitting in his car next to next to Northside Hospital Woman’s Center yesterday has prompted an outpouring of grief on social media (something we didn’t really have when Tupac and Biggie were gunned down) for the rapper whose real name was Melvin Vernell III.
When news of Lil Phat’s shooting began to circulate, rappers with with the young star had been associated tweeted their grief. Bun B said:
“Damn. RIP Lil Phat. Be strong Mel. This is so f*cked up. Known him damn near all his life.”
If you’ve ever experienced learning of the death of someone close to you via Twitter or Facebook, you can probably empathize with Lil Boosie, who upon hearing of Lil Phat’s shooting, tweeted:
“My phone blowing up everybody asking me is my bro Lil Phat dead! Man I hope not!”
But Boosie confirmed Lil Phat’s shooting, sadly adding:
“Sitting here thinking about them days & nights in Trill Studio and at my bro Lil Phat house making hits in the studio #RIPPhat.”
Lil Phat’s associate Webbie tweeted:
“RIP to my Lil Brother Phat! Life so F**ked Up! Trill 4 Life! You stupid bitches think death a joke until you lose somebody you love! #RIPLILPHAT.”
A motive for Lil Phat’s shooting has not yet been discovered by police.
Tags : lil phat, lil phat dead, lil phat shooting, trill entertainment
Posted: June 9, 2012
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Jun 9, 2012
When is the last time we read about a country singer, or rock singer, killed by gang violence? And people still say that the two are not connected?
Jun 9, 2012
Try not to let this ruin your impression of the rap culture. They are every bit as peaceful as the muslim community.
Jun 9, 2012
They always rap about wanting to live the "gangsta life", well when you look at real life gangsters this is what goes down on a regular basis in their world unfortueatly and it's not all about just money – power – and partying.
Jun 9, 2012
Okay WTF is Lil Boosie doing with a phone & tweeting from Jail?
Jun 9, 2012
They think they are all gangsta's living in their own videos. This is what happens…
Jun 9, 2012
How about you guys stop giving the rapper shit? The guy is dead and yet you use this time to put in your two cents about rap culture?
Real nice…
Jun 9, 2012
Oh no. A rapper was shot.
Jun 9, 2012
Is this a jay-beeps picture?!?
Jun 9, 2012
Is this a jay-beeps picture?!?
Jun 9, 2012
Which people say that hip-hop and gang violence are not related?
Jun 9, 2012
Way to stereotype all of rap culture and Muslim culture simultaneously.
Jun 9, 2012
Way to stereotype all of rap culture and Muslim culture simultaneously.
Jun 9, 2012
Rap in itself doesn't manufacture violence. It calls attention to what's already happening in a community. People also never seem to acknowledge all the good rap has done in it's 20+ years of existence. After school programs have been funded, college scholarships have been provided, and the cycle of poverty has been broken in many families. No-one deserves to be shot while minding their own business sitting in a car. It bothers me the lack of compassion some of these comments have.
Jun 9, 2012
What does that have to do with anything?
Jun 9, 2012
Lil Phat did live that gangsta life! this is how he wanted to die… along, he was far from a wanna be, all of u think when you here about a rapper u already think they or wanna be gangsta but it isnt always that way cuz there is rappers out here that or about tht life! Dont go talking about sum one u dont kno!
Jun 9, 2012
Lil Phat did live that gangsta life! this is how he wanted to die… along, he was far from a wanna be, all of u think when you here about a rapper u already think they or wanna be gangsta but it isnt always that way cuz there is rappers out here that or about tht life! Dont go talking about sum one u dont kno!
Jun 9, 2012
I think I smell a snitch….
Jun 9, 2012
Oh no your fav Country singer died!!! Im so sorry
Jun 9, 2012
Wtf??? That makes no since, Why would a country singer die from gang violence? That's called being in the wrong place at the wrong time! And Rocker's or in gang's to dumb fuk u ant gotta be black to be in a gang. You jst made yourself look stupid
Jun 9, 2012
Why don't you guys go comment on that Fleetwood Mac guy that died (that killed himself). Take all that negative semi-racist crap some where else you guys don't even listen to rap.
Jun 10, 2012
the real question is, will he release any more albums?
Jun 10, 2012
Good one, Treyday. I wish you luck on your Photoshop endeavors.
Jun 10, 2012
No, because the rock singers/country singers are dying from overdose from the pills and powder!
Jun 10, 2012
No, because the rock singers/country singers are dying from overdose from the pills and powder or suicide!
Jun 10, 2012
He really doesn't look asian at all.
Jun 10, 2012
Trey TredayImages Ezernack : You really should have listened to the school counselor when she begged you to finish 8th grade. You can't spell, you can't punctuate and you can't compose a sentence. The result is, you are the one who sounds stupid.
Jun 10, 2012
My point is, every other week I keep reading about rappers being killed and on the other side are the apologists who say that there is no connection, just violence. Rap facilitates a culture of hatred. I said nothing about being black, but you did. I find that amusing. Also, I find it sad that all of these rappers are dying from, as you say, being in the wrong place at the wrong time. If you have some money and are successful, move to a better neighborhood and stop hanging out with the same cretins.
Jun 10, 2012
Couldn't have said it better Stephen.
Jun 10, 2012
Cuz he a boss. Don't you know fools been sneakin cellys up in they ass for the longest.
Jun 10, 2012
wtf he snitch on stupid he is doing 9 years u retard
Jun 10, 2012
diss respectfull person smh
Jun 10, 2012
well he dry snitched on himself about his phone on the twitter feed. other than that boosie aint tellin on shit
Jun 10, 2012
then y u talking bout him i highley doubt he wanted to get shoot and killed no mutha fuka i no wants to get gunned downed stupid
Jun 10, 2012
I'm just saying if you act hard, flashing chains and shit you're going to get tested. He was tested and he was killed.
Jun 10, 2012
When will the senseless killing end….smdh.
Jun 10, 2012
Didn't say he was "fake" in anyway Trey & never implied that, but again the sad and unfortunate part of being involved in the "gangsta life" is dying young and it's tragic to hear about all the time.
Jun 10, 2012
u SUCK jim harrwetfdoicare… big time…
Jun 10, 2012
Never.
Jun 10, 2012
Listen up people new gang alert…..They are called the fingertip thugs…They will bust you with a cap….and slay you with a period. When you enter the world they have hate shifts. When you page up they will hit page down. Be careful they are out to ctrl alt and delete you….They are very dangerous when it comes to some people of color…This gang thinks of nothing but the backspace a place and time they ruled. So be aware and hit esc if you have too.
Jun 10, 2012
Oh no! Another thug rapper gone. How will the world cope?
Jun 10, 2012
The worst part about it is that the record companies will still make money off of him while he is gone by turning him into a hologram. Please let the man rest in peace.
Jun 10, 2012
The worst part about it is that the record companies will still make money off of him while he is gone by turning him into a hologram. Please let the man rest in peace.
Jun 10, 2012
you're 28 yrs old and don't even fully understand when to use that word
Jun 10, 2012
then nothing to be sad about then right? he wanted it this way, this shouldn't be news.
Jun 10, 2012
And people don't wanna get fat either but yet they still eat lots of cheeseburgers and donuts none the less.
Jun 10, 2012
oh no..a nigger died..
Jun 10, 2012
oh no..a nigger died..
Jun 10, 2012
He was a terrible rapper. I cold tell because he hangs out in Soulja Boy's camp. He is just a manufactured rapper like the rest of the mainstream rappers.
Jun 10, 2012
To be honest I have never heard of this person and I listen to rap. I try not to listen to rap with violence and rap that perpetuates a negative steroetypes. They have a genra of rap that is dedicated to positivity and is mostly "Christian".
Jun 10, 2012
The truth is that no one hears about country, pop, R & B or any other types of artists getting shot or going to jail constantly because it doesn't happen. If you think that statement is racist or semi-racist you've lost your right to play the race card.
BTW people, you can't have crap without rap….
Jun 10, 2012
They're doing a fine job of killing each other. I guess whitey can quit trying now.
Jun 10, 2012
or the christian community—-and i am a christian—-do some research before you get on a board-numbnutz–christianity has caused or condoned more senseless violence than muslim,rap or all wars combined……not to mention child molestation(catholic priests) please dont get holier than thou
Jun 10, 2012
Just because the word "rap" makes up 75% of the word "crap", it doesn't mean it's the only genre with some shitty music. All genres have crap.
Jun 10, 2012
You can't just add causatiion to a correlation. It could be that they're already in a gang, and then choose to go into rap. In which case, they were killed for being in a gang, not for rap music. Now, if one of those gang members ever decides to do shittier music, like say country, and were to be killed, would we blame country music for facilitating a culture of hatred? How about all those rock "stars" that have died of an overdose, are we blaming rock music for facilitating the culture of drugs?
Jun 10, 2012
lol glad this rapper is dead now maybe more will die, rap needs to die.
Jun 10, 2012
your mother should die.
Jun 10, 2012
your mother should die.
Jun 10, 2012
The point is that someone died and that should be respected no matter the method. I don't know if a lot black people post on the feeds about the white artists whom commit suicide or implode relating a white persons success to rampant drug use, depression and suicide because the live in the suburbs? You may not have said anything about "being black" but you certainly intimated it your statement and you are exaggerating when you say that every other week a rapper is being killed that is just a flat out lie.
Jun 10, 2012
He never hung in soulja boy's camp -_- wtf ? lil phat hung around boosie, webbie, bambino gold, and eldorado red. you can tell he was a bad rapper ? okay.. im not even gonna say much but i can't believe you said he hung in soulja boys camp. holy shit your wrong.
Jun 10, 2012
@Dale Robertson probably. every rapper that dies always has some kind of hidden material. it'll be released sooner or later.
Jun 10, 2012
he fucs with boosie dumbass he can rap
Jun 10, 2012
bitch you dead hope you and your family die dick beater
Jun 10, 2012
wel………………………byyyyyyyye
Jun 10, 2012
I wonder what has happened more…rappers getting shot or rock stars overdosing?
Jun 10, 2012
You know who the first O.G.s were…white people…we didn't invent it…the mob have been doing gangsta shit for years…when they did it whole family's were murdered…if Americas view of the American dream wasn't so screwed up for so many years we wouldn't have this problem but when you blast it all on tv for decades, move drugs into urban areas(the government), and create social and class statuses that separate the masses this is what you get.
Jun 10, 2012
hehehe if you check the history and you wanna compare Violence the Christians RUN MILES AROUND MUSLIMS… just saying Jim know your history
Jun 10, 2012
niggers getting shot, hands down…..But, im totally cool with that. Niggers killing each other saves us white folk the trouble….I say we give all you dumb coons a gun and let you all kill yourselves. Youa re doing it already, this would just expedite the process…..
Jun 10, 2012
one more dead nigger YEAH!
Jun 10, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmP9Ps5a2do
Enough said. you guys gotta stop talking down on the dead.
nobody here knew him personally to know what he was like as a human being.
Jun 10, 2012
U so damn stupid!!!! Someone has lost there life it doesn't matter that he was a rapper…. Aleast he wasn't out breakin in people house… If this was ur loved one I know u wouldn't be sayn this stupid bullshit…. I know u wouldn't!!!
Jun 10, 2012
U don't know shit about him! Go eat a dick wit ur gay ass!!!
Jun 10, 2012
and the atheist Marxists rule them all. 100 million dead in the 20th Century…and no Hollywood movies.
Jun 10, 2012
easy, rappers getting shot.
Jun 10, 2012
THE GUY IS A CELEB SO NORMAL JAIL RULES DON'T APPLY
Jun 10, 2012
NORMAL CRIMINALS DON'T GET CELL PHONES BUT LIL BOOSIE IS NOT A NORMAL CRIMINAL HE IS A CELEB.
Jun 10, 2012
YES VERY TRUE BECAUSE SUGE KNIGHT IS FRIENDS WITH REAL LIFE GANGS AND HE HIRED 2 REAL LIFE GANGSTERS A FEW MONTHS AGO
Jun 10, 2012
WHO IS TALKING ABOUT ASIANS?
Jun 10, 2012
1. HE DID NOT KNOW THAT SOULJA BOY EVEN EXISTS, 2. HE HAS NO CONNECTION TO THE YOUTUBE STAR TURNED FAMOUS CELEB RAPPER
Jun 10, 2012
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
Jun 10, 2012
Of course an imbecile who deliberately pays attention to only negative portrayals of either culture would have such a perception.
Jun 10, 2012
Chris Skaggs "It doesn't happen." Sir, are you dumb or just really, really stupid? Rock and country musicians aren't in and out of jail and rehab and the morgue? Really?? I pray you're not that deluded. BTW: "crap w/o rap"? Wow, didja make that up? NEEEVER heard that one before. (sarcasm).
Jun 10, 2012
nso98 …says the guy who (likely) doesn't like rap music and likes to make up his own facts…
Jun 10, 2012
Stephen Paden Cite 3 examples of these apologists. Find links to reputable news sources or blogs, and cite 3 examples of these purported apologists.
Jun 10, 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reds_(film)
Jun 10, 2012
Lol which makes u better than me right Bill Haley? And u dont kno me mother fucker im still in skool. This is also fb not a essay so if i would like to spell my words in slang talk i have the right to.
Jun 10, 2012
Stephen Paden I cant say anything about that becuz your right! But its rap life and its the way they choose to live, and once there famous the real rappers stay the same and do not let money change them because the onces that do, in the rap cultrue or called sell outs. Im sorry the way I came at u im jst a fan of his music and im speaking 4 him becuz he is dead.
Jun 10, 2012
And it will alwayz be like that in the rap game! Rappers will be keep getting shot, rockers will keep overdosing and country singers will keep smoking weed being the good guyz!
Jun 10, 2012
he has a mixtape coming out and then i think thats it beside all hes featrues he hasnt put out yet
Jun 10, 2012
he stays high!
Jun 10, 2012
He was signed to his birth fahter's label and he wasnt famous enough to become a hologram.
Jun 10, 2012
like how it is now, they will have ppl like u say dumb shit
Jun 10, 2012
Don't let these muslims ruin your day!
Jun 11, 2012
Like my man DeLano said you might not have said black ppl but you where putting it out there on the slick side, and no DeLano you don't see black ppl going on white ppls stuff saying uncalled for things about them cuz only white ppl do stuff like tht and my white friends will sit there and tell u yea it's true that we do those things. I also wanna put out there that White gangs kill each other so you have no room to talk.
Jun 11, 2012
r.i.p lil phat lose a real nigga another one is born… rip my nigga to all ya racist bitches don't worry ya time is coming but for rite now get ready for four more years of barack obama bitches cause niggas is taking over we make the world go around.
Jun 11, 2012
Ugh some of these comments have really pissed me off. Like if you don't have anything nice to say dont say shit at all. For the ones that's judging him because he a rapper shut the fuck up. He didn't deserved to go out like that! But anyways rest in peace baby boy. My prays are with your family and trill fam
Jun 11, 2012
timcahill – UR post is worthless & empty. Insulting takes zero brain power. That suits you, I guess.
Jun 11, 2012
C.m.b.b rip.lil phat much love litter one
Jun 11, 2012
my roomate's ex-wife makes $79/hr on the laptop. She has been out of a job for 9 months but last month her pay was $8641 just working on the laptop for a few hours. Go to this web site CashLazy.*com
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Jun 11, 2012
tmz have the article about suge knight hiring 2 gnagster a few months ago some time this year.
Jun 11, 2012
Beau LaVergne -Part 1:
You claim to be a 'christian', while smearing inaccurate nonsense about Christianity. How nutz.
The next posts from me is a response to your points to Jim Harrington, Jr:
1) "or the christian community—-and i am a christian—-do some research before you get on a board-numbnutz … please dont get holier than thou"
Beau LaVergne – You claim to be a 'christian', while smearing inaccurate nonsense about Christianity. How nutz.
Oh, and I'm SURE is is 'Christ-like' and 'godly' to call other people "numbnutz". Sooooo much love and fabulous WWJD testimony!
Hypocrite.
YOU should be pointing fingers, potty mouth pseudo-pious, foul-mouthed, so-called 'christian' falsely charging Christianity with some seemingly leftist-bloated propaganda.
Oh, and thy Bible showeth unto thee what thou shouldst be speaking like, and what thou should not be speaking like and what they heart & mind should be at.
Hearken unto the Bible to show thee the way – and repent of thy verbal sinning and 'bearing false witness' and falsehoods you spread against Christianity and the nasty low-level smear, while thou art at it – dude:
"Rather, speaking the TRUTH in LOVE, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ"
(Eph. 4:15. ESV)
"LOVE is patient and KIND; love does not envy or boast; it is NOT ARROGANT or RUDE."
(1 Cor. 13:4-5. ESV)
"Let your speech ALWAYS be GRACIOUS, SEASONED with salt, *so that* [This is the reason:] you may know how you ought to answer each person."
(Col. 4:6. ESV)
"GRACIOUS words are like a honeycomb,
sweetness to the soul and health to the body."
(Prov 16:24. ESV)
"The acts of the SINFUL NATURE are OBVIOUS: … HATRED, … FITS OF RAGE, selfish ambition, … and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom [Greek: reign/rule] of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is LOVE, joy, peace, patience, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, faithfulness, GENTLENESS, SELF CONTROL. Against such things there is no law."
(Gal. 5:22-23. NIV)
"But the wisdom from above is first pure, then PEACEABLE, GENTLE, OPEN TO REASON, full of mercy and GOOD fruits, impartial and sincere."
(James 3:17. ESV)
2) "christianity has caused or condoned more senseless violence than muslim,rap or all wars combined……"
The ENTIRE history of ISLAM has wars, forced conversion or die, etc. It never had a Reformation, and the Islamic Sharia radicals are today's Nazi Party. You should dig deeper and from better sources. YOU should do better "research before YOU get on board-numbnutz". Blind to your own distorted mind.
That you would make such a slanted, partial, incomplete, driveling assertion about "more senseless violence than muslim,rap or all wars combined……not to mention child molestation(catholic priests) please dont get holier than thou".
My, my – where are YOU getting your baloney from? So, Mohammed started the wars to conquer – Islam has had it ever since. Then, there's ALL wars, and add to that atheist political Marxism/communism, Socialism, etc – and Christianity has done worse than all of that & more "combined"?!!Bizarre you call yourself a 'christian'.
Or that you would point fingers!
Oy vey!
Holy crap!
SEE PART 2 next …..
Jun 11, 2012
Beau LaVergne – PART – #3,
C) MIXED, INCLUDING THE JOHN JAY COLLEGE STUDY:
Though the John Jay College of Criminal Justice study may not be perfect, we can see the different studies of what we have, and see an overall picture, anyway.
However, as TheDailyBeast/Newsweek says:
"The only hard data that has been made public by any denomination comes from John Jay College's study of Catholic priests"
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/04/07/mean-men.html
Also:
"The largest body of information has been collected in the United States, where in 2004 the US Conference of Catholic Bishops commissioned an independent study by the John Jay College of Criminal Justice of the City University of New York. This is not a Catholic university and is unanimously recognised [sic] as the most authoritative academic institution of criminology in the United States. …
"The John Jay College study already noted a "significant decline" in cases in the 2000s. New investigations have been rare, and sentences extremely rare, as a result of more rigorous controls introduced by American bishops as well as the Holy See.
"So, does the John Jay College study tells us then, as one often reads, that 4 percent of American priests are paedophiles? Not at all. According to the research, 78.2 percent of the accusations involved minors who had advanced beyond puberty. Having sexual relations with a 17-year-old is certainly not a beautiful thing, and much less so for a priest, but it is not paedophilia. Therefore, only 958 American priests were accused of true paedophilia over 52 years, 18 per year. There were only 54 convictions, a little less than one per year. …
[I don't think the below info is from the John Jay College study. The author uses several studies, it seems. Paragraph before the below one starts with info from "studies by Jenkins":]
"In the same period in which about 100 American priests were convicted for sexually abusing minors, the number of gym teachers and coaches of junior sporting teams – also mainly married – who were convicted of the same crimes in the US reached about 6,000. The examples could continue, not only in the US. And above all, according to regular US government reports, two-thirds of sexual abuse against minors does not come from strangers or educators – including priests and Protestant pastors – but from family members: stepfathers, uncles, cousins, brothers and, unfortunately, even parents. Similar facts exist for numerous other countries.
"While it may hardly be politically correct to say so, there is a fact that is much more important: over 80 percent of paedophiles are homosexuals, that is, males who abuse other males. And – again citing Jenkins – over 90 percent of Catholic priests convicted for sexually abusing minors have been homosexual. If a problem has sprung up in the Catholic Church, it is not due to celibacy but to a certain tolerance of homosexuality in seminaries, particularly in the 1970s, when most of the priests later convicted for the abuses were ordained. This is a problem that Benedict XVI is rigorously correcting. More generally, a return to moral principles, to ascetical discipline, to meditating on the true greatness of the priesthood are the antidotes to the real tragedy of paedophilia. The Year of the Priest must also help. …
"Massimo Introvigne is an Italian sociologist of religion. He is the founder and managing director of the Center for Studies on New Religions (CESNUR). This article from the CESNUR website has been reprinted and translated with permission. "
- "Moral panic flares again", July 8, 2010
http://www.mercatornet.com/articles/view/mora/
"In a statement read out by Archbishop Silvano Maria Tomasi in September 2009, the Holy See stated "We know now that in the last 50 years somewhere between 1.5% and 5% of the Catholic clergy has been involved in sexual abuse cases", adding that this figure was comparable with that of other groups and denominations.[11] A Perspective on Clergy Sexual Abuse by Dr. Thomas Plante of Stanford University and Santa Clara University states that "approximately 4% of priests during the past half century (and mostly in the 1960s and 1970s) have had a sexual experience with a minor" which "is consistent with male clergy from other religious traditions and is significantly lower than the general adult male population which may double these numbers".[4][12] Additionally, according to Newsweek magazine, the figure in the Catholic Church is similar to that in the rest of the adult population.[13] …
"George Weigel, the Chair of Catholic Studies at the Ethics and Public Policy Center in Washington, District of Columbia, noted: "In the United States alone, there are reportedly some 39 million victims of childhood sexual abuse… According to other recent studies, 2 percent of sex abuse offenders were Catholic priests—a phenomenon that spiked between the mid-1960s and the mid-1980s but seems to have virtually disappeared… [Yet] the sexual abuse story in the global media is almost entirely a Catholic story, in which the Catholic Church is portrayed as the epicenter of the sexual abuse of the young."[160] "
"The 2004 John Jay Report commissioned by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) ….
"In 6,696 (72%) cases, an investigation of the allegation was carried out. Of these, 4,570 (80%) were substantiated; 1,028 (18%) were unsubstantiated; 83 (1.5%) were found to be false. In 56 cases, priests were reported to deny the allegations. …
"The 4,392 priests who were accused amount to approximately 4% of the 109,694 priests in active ministry during that time. …
"The allegations were substantiated for 1,872 priests and unsubstantiated for 824 priests. They were thought to be credible for 1,671 priests and not credible for 345 priests. 298 priests and deacons who had been completely exonerated are not included in the study. …
"Almost 70 percent were ordained before 1970.[15] …
- WIKI: "Catholic sex abuse cases"
Next is Part4….
Jun 11, 2012
Beau LaVergne – Part4:,
Religious Tolerance says, concerning this study:
"* It is important to keep one's eye on the forest and not on the trees. Even if, as this report estimates, four percent of priests have sexually abused youths or children, that still leaves about 96% of priests (24 priests out of every 25) who are non-abusive."
"* A very large percentage of the victims of sexual abuse by priests are 16 or 17 years of age. In some jurisdictions, young persons of this age range can consent to sexual activity. Sexual activity with youth in that age range would be a gross violation of the Church's expectation of priestly chastity. It would be considered by many to be an abuse of trust by a person in authority. However, it might not be considered a criminal act in some jurisdictions.
"* If the report's estimate that 22% of the abuse involves victims under the age of ten, then a case can be made that abuse of young, pre-pubertal, children by priests may be lower than among the general population of males in the U.S."
More stats & info on the JJSJ report here:
- Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance, "Independent survey of sexually abusive Roman Catholic priests"
http://www.religioustolerance.org/clergy_sex20.htm
D) From liberal/leftist "TheDailyBeast" "From Newsweek":
Apr 7, 2010 8:00 PM EDT
"It's no wonder that, back in 2002—when the last Catholic sex-abuse scandal was making headlines—a Wall Street Journal-NBC News poll found that 64 percent of those queried thought Catholic priests "frequently'' abused children.
"Yet experts say there's simply no data to support the claim at all. No formal comparative study has ever broken down child sexual abuse by denomination, and only the Catholic Church has released detailed data about its own. But based on the surveys and studies conducted by different denominations over the past 30 years, experts who study child abuse say they see little reason to conclude that sexual abuse is mostly a Catholic issue. "We don't see the Catholic Church as a hotbed of this or a place that has a bigger problem than anyone else," said Ernie Allen, president of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. …
"Experts disagree on the rate of sexual abuse among the general American male population, but Allen says a conservative estimate is one in 10. Margaret Leland Smith, a researcher at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, says her review of the numbers indicates it's closer to one in 5. But in either case, the rate of abuse by Catholic priests is not higher than these national estimates. The public also doesn't realize how "profoundly prevalent" child sexual abuse is, adds Smith. Even those numbers may be low; research suggests that only a third of abuse cases are ever reported (making it the most underreported crime). "However you slice it, it's a very common experience," Smith says.
"Most child abusers have one thing in common, and it's not piety—it's preexisting relationships with their victims. That includes priests and ministers and rabbis, of course, but also family members, friends, neighbors, teachers, coaches, scout leaders, youth-group volunteers, and doctors. According to federal studies, three quarters of abuse occurs at the hands of family members or others in the victim's "circle of trust." …
"Priests may also appear more likely to molest children because cases of abuse come to light in huge waves. One reason is delayed reporting: less than 13 percent of victims abused between 1960 and 1980, for example, lodged a complaint in the same year as the assault. Two thirds filed their complaints after 1992, and half of those were made between 2002 and 2003 alone."
- "Mean Men: The priesthood is being cast as the refuge of pederasts. In fact, priests seem to abuse children at the same rate as everyone else."
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Jun 12, 2012
my roomate's aunt makes $83/hr on the laptop. She has been without work for 8 months but last month her pay was $8682 just working on the laptop for a few hours. Read more on this site…NuttyRichdotcom.
Jun 12, 2012
Everyone is talkin bout Rap, Gangs, being black when its all said and done we lost a life too soon to something that you wont know about cuz you don't live that life so let this man R.I.P without you tryin too say how he died just know sometimes its bigger than rap.
Jun 13, 2012
@Julius u dont know wtf u talkin bout bruh, my cousin in dat bitch right now wit a cell phone, textin and all type of shit
Jun 13, 2012
Honestly u sound like a jackass saying every other week a rapper is being killed. Yall do know alot of these rappers not about that life they be talkin bout right its just a way to get money…not sayin lil phat wasnt bout that life
Jun 13, 2012
You are retarded to think he got it just cuz of that, they been sneaking cell phones in for a minute now and not just to celebs.
Jun 16, 2012
ye man go hang ur self
Jun 16, 2012
you mad bro?
Jun 20, 2012
jess aint right to say shit bout nobody dead and it aint right to joke about things like this people like you need t die
Jun 25, 2012
Jessie Aaron Novotny shut up fat booy
Jun 25, 2012
Jessie Aaron Novotny broke bitch
Jun 25, 2012
Jessie Aaron Novotny the camera hates you fat ass child molester
Jul 4, 2012
Ur a fuckin idiot rapper or not no one deserves to die. Fool
Jul 4, 2012
Yall racist motherfuckaz. Yall trippin lets tlk abt amy winehouse, and all da other white Pop starz who took there own lives
Jul 6, 2012
Damn. He was the sickest members of Trill Fam
Jul 25, 2012
Damn r.I.p. 4real lil phat sad u had to go b4 u blow homie
Jul 25, 2012
STFU DO NOT JUDGE HIM UPON HIS LOOKS
Jul 29, 2012
Fuck u
Jul 31, 2012
Rip youngie trill for life
Aug 2, 2012
Man I can't belive it my nigga that's fucked up bro trill 4life
Aug 7, 2012
i bet they call u snitch in the hood. ty murphy sings like a bird. oh yeah and thank you for stating the obvious dickwad
Aug 14, 2012
Rip lil phat fuck all u dumb white pple
Aug 26, 2012
Lil phat gone down in Mexico blowing up …word
Aug 26, 2012
Lil phat gone down in Mexico blowing up …word
Aug 26, 2012
ain even in da mood get da fuck from round me…r.i.p phat u was fina kill da game
Aug 27, 2012
Your past is sumthing Your future Got to live with foreal
Sep 18, 2012
life death comes to us all now or eventually later
Sep 18, 2012
life death comes to us all now or eventually later
Dec 17, 2012
Todd Kedron lil boosie aint doing 9years he will be home in 60days time like in mid february.