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Amendment 1 Passes, North Carolina Denies Marriage Equality

Posted: May 8, 2012

North Carolina Amedment 1

Raleigh, N.C. – Voters in North Carolina passed Amendment 1 to the State Constitution which defines marriage as exclusively between 1 man and 1 woman.  With 33 percent of the precincts reporting unofficial results show the measure passing 58% to 42%.

In the past two weeks North Carolina has become ground zero in the fight for Marriage Equality.  Political superstars like Bill Clinton showed their support to the opposition to Amendment 1.  Meanwhile dozens of high profile supporters turned out to ensure its passage with one State Senator’s wife telling poll workers the Amendment was necessary to protect the Caucasian Race

Even at 93 the Reverend Billy Graham came out to drum up support for the Amendment.

Both sides spent a combined $3 million on their campaigns.

What made the Amendment strange is that North Carolina banned gay marriage years ago.  Supporters passed Amendment 1 to take away any and all benefits and potential recognitions for gay couples.  Currently nine states ban gay marriage while six allow it.

Joe Easterling, who described himself as a devout Christian, voted for the amendment at a polling place in Wake Forest.

Easterling told the Huffington Post,

“I know that some people may argue that the Bible may not necessarily be applicable, or it should not be applicable, on such policy matters. But even looking at nature itself, procreation is impossible without a man and a woman. And because of those things, I think it is important that the state of North Carolina’s laws are compatible with the laws of nature but, more importantly, with the laws of God.”

Linda Toanone, who voted against the amendment, said people are born gay and it is not their choice.

She said,

“We think everybody should have the same rights as everyone else. If you’re gay, lesbian, straight – whatever. Also, that amendment is against women, I believe, because also underneath the amendment, other laws are saying that people who aren’t married at all, they can’t file for domestic abuse cases, if they’re living with their significant other. Which is wrong,”

President Obama has taken a strong stand for gay rights in America but has stopped short of endorsing Marriage Equality.  This week his Education Secretary and Vice President Joe Biden came out in support of Gay marriage.

One fault line that could determine the result is generational. Older voters, who tend to be more reliable voters, are expected to back the amendment.

Amendment 1 goes far beyond any other state laws passed so far as it strips any type of domestic union from being recognized by the government for anything.

Both sides of the Amendment thought they had made great strides this week.  Supporters were obviously right.



Comments


101 Archived Responses to “ Amendment 1 Passes, North Carolina Denies Marriage Equality ”

  1. Time for LGBT to leave NC before they start burning us at the stake.

  2. This is absurd…men and women procreate yes, but there are so many heterosexual couples that cannot or choose not to conceive, and instead adopt as there are too many children in this world without homes. It is time NC gets up to date with what the NATION wants, and they want same sex marriage and equal rights. Religion is the main point of argument and it should not be taken into account when a political decision is being made. Shame on the churches for promoting prejudice in the name of God! I hate living amongst ignorance and prejudice, and hatred for those that are no different than YOU! Whatever happened to LOVE THY NEIGHBOR? BIGOTS!

  3. You need to think carefully about the logic of your statement, Andrea. If (as all the liberal cry-babies are now pointing out) the "majority of people" want "marriage equality", then why have 30 states now adopted amendments to their constitutions banning gay marriage? Even the people of California voted to ban gay marriage. It took a "majority of people" to pass these amendments, Andrea. This tells me that either the polling methods being used are flawed, or the pollsters are simply lying in hopes of advancing an agenda. The world that surrounds you is reality Andrea – not your distorted perception of it.
    Declaring that people do not have the right in America to form their political views based on their religious beliefs is one of the most ignorant statements I've read in a while. Apparently, whatever crackpot indoctrination program disguised as education that you went through succeeded in completely warping the true meaning of the separation of Church and State. To that end, your opinion is effectively worthless. NC is "up to date with what the NATION wants" dear – a majority of states banned gay marriage before NC did.
    So go ahead and kick and scream and proclaim those whom you disagree with to be "bigots". I suppose that beats accepting the truth that your personal opinion is irrelevant.

  4. A message to LGBT youth in response to the passage of Amendment One in North Carolina. The story is not over.. http://liveoncampus.com/wire/show/3377360

  5. Kira Campbell
    May 9, 2012

    I thought religion was to love and accept all living things? Maybe not. All I hear from most religious types is hate.
    You won't allow gays to marry, but you base your beliefs on a religion that glorifies child sacrifice?

    Gays won't destroy the institution of marriage. I think celebrities are doing a pretty decent job of that so far.

  6. Nikki Nicedreads
    May 9, 2012

    thats exactly what they want you to do is run. LGBT is global. They cant get rid of us if we stand up and let them know we refuse to be forced out.

  7. People are not born gay! To say that is just ignorant.
    I don't care if your gay or not.. And religion is a virus that is infecting true believers and corrupting the very word that comes from the bible!
    Im not for nore against gays.. I believe you do what you do and answer for it when the time comes.

  8. Nikki Nicedreads
    May 9, 2012

    Seriously we need to show America just how much it would hurt if gay money disappeared. Only support companies that are LGBT friendly. Stop shopping and see if that makes a difference. Bottom line changes things!

  9. I love how people are fighting over a piece of paper. it doesn't matter who you love or how you love, they have the same rights as everyone else. when it come to children, there are plenty of them that need loving and caring homes, no matter who there parents are. as long as they are loved and taken care of that is all that matters.

  10. I'm glad the Amendment One stand's strong in our state. I'm against same sex anything…..People that thinks they can change GOD's laws are the ignorance ones, because GOD made the laws way befor man made them I don't understand people at times if things don't go there way they want to blame GOD and the human race when they need to be down on there knees asking GOD what is wright and wrong in there lives, and asking for help. People say leave GOD out of it. Well I hate to tell them GOD is in the front line of it so DEAL WITH IT..

  11. I think whoever wrote this article is scared that they are passing the gay gene to their off spring. Sucks that they are helping bring more fags into this world, we already have enough of them

  12. Dyana Lin McHose Placher
    May 9, 2012

    thats funny ,, Gay men not shopping???? THink of something else, this is not a good example!

  13. Nikki Nicedreads
    May 9, 2012

    Dyana Lin McHose Placher glad you're amused! Its a great way to make an impact! U not for change keep your comments to yourself!

  14. Excuse me, but The same written law in the Constitution that gives you the right to your religion and its view, also gives me and everyone else the right to their religion or lack there of. You have the right to believe that your god is the only and correct god, but you have to admit that everyone else has the right to that same opinion about their gods/beliefs. and to say that the bible is the ONLY rule book is unconstitutional. according to the bible, god gave man free will which means everyone can accept or reject god (and free will is seen in other religions and not just Christianity). If only you spent as much time worrying about murderers and rapists and protesting their sins instead of worrying about what two consenting adults you have never met do in their own homes, then maybe when you get to your heaven, your god will think your time was better spent…

  15. you accept your god BUT THE TRUE GOD will JUDGE all for what you stand for so on JUDGEMENT DAY we will see the TRUE LAW WHO do you think created you and gave you live

  16. Actually two of the biggest issues that homosexuals have come down to marital rights. If a married man and woman adopt and later get divorced, both are still considered legal parent to the child and has rights. As of now, in a gay relationship only one person is legal parent and can take the child away from the other (this has happened to a friend of mine who raised a baby for 6 years and then his partner split with the child and my friend could not get visitation rights). Also the next issue is about recognition. Two men could be together for 50 years and if one gets sick, the other legally has no right the partners medical treatment and in some states/hospitals cannot even go in the hospital rooms which is only for family members. Can you imagine the love of your life dying in a hospital bed and you are forbidden to see them?!

  17. GOD gave each person the wright too choose wright are wrong so I choose GOD's way not mans.you dont stand for GOD's laws on earth you sure want stand one HIS HEAVENLY HOME…..

  18. GOD gave each person the wright too choose wright are wrong so I choose GOD's way not mans.you dont stand for GOD's laws on earth you sure want stand one HIS HEAVENLY HOME…..

  19. Gail Godfrey Again you have the right to that belief, but you need to leave it up to him. god did not send you down here to tell others how to live their lives! I do believe in freedom of speech, but I don't believe in one group being able to create laws on how others should live (violent criminals withstanding). Again if you believe in the bible and god then you should agree with free will and leave people alone!! Worry about your own soul. not mine

  20. Gail Godfrey God wants you to learn how to read and write. Not worry about how others live their lives. The voice you hear telling you that you were sent down here to "Spread gods word"… they make medication for that.

  21. well they might do but you keep your belifes to your self because I do have the wright to FREDOM of SPEACH so if you dont like the way I read or wright then dont coment on things I dont have to spread GOD's word HIS BOOK does that if you can read it.

  22. Gail Godfrey Oy, so you have the freedom of speech but I don't? And you just made my point. God will take care of things and it is no one's business how another lives (again violence against others not withstanding). So you are telling me you follow the bible to the letter, or do you pick and choose what you want to do. Do you live in a separate house from your husband when menstruating? Do you use electricity on Sunday? Do you eat pork? Do you or anyone you know have a tattoo? If you answered yes to any of these then you have gone against the word of god.

  23. You dont want to listen to my side neither but when we put GOD in it every one gets mad I dont understand all of GOD's laws and the BIBLE but I do know that GOD hates sin… I am not perfict I sin like every one else,,,, BUT GOD's LAW never changes if they want that life style then they have to stand before GOD how they live it not me. And tes I was put here on this earth to spread GOD's word just like every other believer of GOD so if it ofends you and everyone else then you take it up with my SAVIOR. SIN IS SIN no matter how you look at it.

  24. Gail Godfrey I feel like my head is going to explode!! You just said you sin! So why not worry about saving your own soul and stop spending your time telling others how to live?!?! And you still have not addressed the issue of free will. If god gave man free will, then no one else should determine how another lives/believes. That same free will gives you the right to believe what you want, but you cannot pick and choose what laws you want to follow. Just imagine if we did that with man's law? You can't have things both ways. You can't preach gods law until you follow it yourself!!!!

  25. You have to follow all of the bible and not just what you find important to you.

  26. Nikki Nicedreads Quite right of course, I was just being dramatic.

  27. If I was not born gay, then how come I am not and never have been sexually or romantically interested in females? And how can you know more about my sexual orientation than I know myself? I am the homosexual one here. I should know this better than you, and what business is it of yours anyway?

    As for the Bible, it commands that disobedient children be stoned to death, also a woman not a virgin on her wedding night, and a married couple who have sex during the woman's menstrual period. It also commands the death penalty for picking up sticks on the Sabbath, and commands that a widow should have sex with each of her late husband's brothers until she falls pregnant.

    Do you believe ALL of the Bible, or just the parts that fit your particular and evident dislike of my inborn homosexuality?

  28. IT's GOD's WILL not mine if you head is spining then sit down and get of my views you cant stand for some one to say GOD SAID no sex between WOMAM and WOMAN and no MAN with MAN you take that up with GOD when you stand BEFOR HIM and you ask HIM why. I dont care how they live, If they cant handle the truth thrn thats your proublem..my soul is just fine in my SAVIORS HANDS safe and secure.I know where I'm going when I leave this world and I dont have to be around people like you and every one else that want to change the laws to sute them…

  29. Nikki Nicedreads
    May 9, 2012

    Derek Williams I know. I just cant wait til this backfires on a straight couple. As soon as they are affected then things will change.

  30. Gail Godfrey Clearly you do care! In your first statement you said "I am against same sex anything". You can't say in one sentence that you sin, but then say you can stand before your god and claim to be able to pass. So you are saying that only certain sinners don't go to heaven but your sins are ok?

  31. no that is not what I'm saying . I have to live and answer for what I do and say .SO if you think that I am for gay mariege you are very misstakin I dont agree with it that is my belief AND if they hafe asked GOD into ther heart and accepted HIS BLOOD THAT HE SHEDED on THE CROSS then THEY will go live with HIM. GET A LIFE WOMAN and stop trying to change THE BELEAVERS VIEWS AND WHAT WE STAND FOR. BECAUSE YOU CANT CHANGE GOD'S LAW'S. AND I AM A SINNER SAVED BY GOD'S AMAZING GRACE. AND I AM NOT ASHAMED OF HIS LOVE AND GRACE THAT HE GIVES ME. AND I WILL STAND ON HIS WORD TILL HE COMES BACK TO TAKE ME HOME. I THANK GOD EVERY DAY FOR HIS LOVE AND MERCIE IN MY LIFE.

  32. Gail, how can anyone accept your view considering you can't express yourself with proper grammar? It just shows ignorance on your part.

  33. I don't believe in the bible, but at the same time I doubt there is a gay gene that is passed down. I think your confused as a person. Your born sucking on a titty and not craving cock

  34. Gail Godfrey The issue is that you are a sinner (as you stated) and are no better. Yet homosexuals are not trying to create laws that would affect your life because of the sins you commit (again unless they are violent against others). How would you like it if we created a law that says it is now illegal to sleep in the same bed as your husband when you are menstruating? Again, what happens in your house is no one's business! No one is trying to make you accept or condone homosexuality. What we are trying to get you to accept and condone is that every one has the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness!!! Your voting for Amendment One totally contradicts these inalienable rights and you are basing your vote on religion! Well here is a bible quote for you: "Jesus Loves Us All – Mark 5:24" "Lord God, Sovereign over all creation and the Father of all nations, please open my heart and my eyes to love all kinds of people like your Son demonstrated during his earthly ministry and now does from heaven. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen." And we are not trying to get you to change your religious beliefs! But to realize that we have the same right to our beliefs and that you do not have the right to force your beliefs on us or how we live!! WWJD!!!???

  35. And I realize you may not read that last message and really think long and hard and maybe even consider what I wrote as you have the right to that. I fully agree with that. But I feel that if I open one mind just the tiniest bit to acceptance to others than I am doing what I believe I have been sent here to do. But I know you are going to believe what you want, but that's your free will.

  36. Why should you have to answer to God, whom I believe is a God of unconditional love, for being what He made you?

    And why on earth would someone "choose" to be gay? To be reviled and persecuted? That is insane!

  37. TeeHee HeeHee
    May 9, 2012

    Gail Godfrey; I can sense so much hatred from your comments. I always find christian people to be the most hateful people out there. And now you said that you want to spread your god's word in this world. I am sorry but I dont want to follow any religions that teach me how to hate others.

  38. TeeHee HeeHee
    May 9, 2012

    I never had any interest in boys ever! I was born gay. Why should I choose to be gay so that I can be persecuted and called names by people like you?

  39. TeeHee HeeHee unfortunately you attract more flies with bullsh*t than honey

  40. At least you are smarter than a fly

  41. Saying that you were born gay is a bull shit excuse! There is no gay gene being spread. Your confused also!! And what makes you think that since your gay you should have special rights. Your not a minority

  42. Ryan Carranza
    May 9, 2012

    Gail Godfrey … You are obviously from North Carolina, considering your comprehension, spelling and grammar is atrocious to say the least. Did you know "God's word" also condones slavery? Do you abide by that as well? I reckon not, but judging by your lack of logic in your comments, you could fool me.

  43. Ryan Carranza
    May 9, 2012

    God this and God that… If people chose to be gay, then that means they chose a life of persecution and being hated? Makes no sense. If you want to use the Bible to be against Gays, then you have to own the whole Bible. I hope you anti-gay Bible lovers realize that your "God" also condoned slavery. Do you people condone slavery?

  44. Michael Bertrand
    May 9, 2012

    Most Americans do indeed condone it, they do it by funding corporations that use slave labor to produce their goods, most of your trendy fashion outlets and affordable goods are produced by slave labor and the savings get passed on to you. Buying mostly foreign goods, foreign oil, and using illegal labor at unjust wages are all forms of condoning slavery, it is almost impossible to purchase anything in America today without funding it.

  45. Michael Bertrand
    May 10, 2012

    Lauren Jaye Siegel A living will enables any person relative or not to have legal rights in a medical situation, according to the person who writes the living will. Any individual may put in writing who may and who may not have visitation and say over there choice should they be unable to make choices on their own, it is something we encourage all persons to have in the medical field regardless of age gender or pretty much any situation, it is binding legally and must be upheld. In that same light a living will also exercise the patients right to exclude next of kin family and friends from having say in a life or death situation should the living will state it preventing a person from being denied their rights by family friends or others who would not want to disconnect feed tubes or vents. Married or not it is best to have a living will because believe it or not being married doesnt always give you rights especially if other family are concerned, its a very grey area and usually family members will fight over it leaving hospitals in difficult situations if an individual has no living will.

  46. Michael Bertrand I do agree that everyone needs to have an advanced directive. I advocate it all the time. My own situation follows as my parents divorced in 1996 but never split. They remained in the same house and neither had other relationships and they went on vacations together and even to each others' family ceremonies. They even had joint checking accounts which according to our banker is unheard of. They had considered (mostly jokingly) to get remarried for the tax/health benefits. My dad got sick very suddenly Feb 2010. He went into a coma and quickly deteriorated. His other children from a previous marriage were luckily civil during the hospital time, but when it came time to talk about money and burial they were vicious. My mother had no rights and is losing her house as we speak. In my situation, my father had the mentality that he had time. He was robbed (we believe he got sever food poisoning that attacked his heart). I know alot of younger people have the same mentality. I also know based on friends, that alot of homosexuals are weary of the government and do not want to create any legal documents. There still are stigmas against gays in the work place. Why would someone want to legally come out? I still advocate advanced directives/will but it still comes down to the fact that gays should have the same rights to the privileges of legal marriage. I didn't even mention in the last post the benefits of tax exemptions and spousal health benefits.

  47. Michael Bertrand
    May 10, 2012

    Lauren Jaye Siegel Lauren Jaye Siegel I can understand the fear, but one place anonymity is still safe is in the medical field, HIPPA is so scary to health care personnel and the thought of losing a license at the mere mention of a patient situation even without naming names is burned into our minds consistency with examples of this one person who used to work here stories that there are very few if any willing to discuss patient care away from the nurses station. I'm glad to hear you are and advocate of advanced directives and encourage you to share the facts about the tight lipped dealings of medical records and the security of medical records. Medical charts are protected even against government and local law enforcement as the information inside is only privy to persons involved in treatment on a need to know basis, anything else is a HIPPA violations and so far is one of the only true forms of privacy left in this country.

  48. Gail Godfrey Are you trying really hard to convince yourself? It's nice you have your beliefs, but once you've given the word to others, it's up to them to decide. After that, it's between them and God—you've done your part. Passing laws that hurt others is not very Christian.

  49. Michael Bertrand
    May 10, 2012

    Jason Meehan and Derek Williams The whole born that way argument is really a argumentative wast of time. Currently there is no standing scientific evidence that supports the "born that way" argument and contrary to the belief of some, your personal testimony does not make it true.That being said lack of evidence is not evidence only inconclusive So you both can argue till you are blue in the face and your own personal feelings do not constitute fact. For the moment it seems this is about as folly as arguing which came first the chicken or the egg. Funny think about people they always tend to believe that they are right, even if they are wrong. Both sides are closed minded and that just breed mutual ignorance equally.

  50. I'm not hurting others by saying that I stand with GOD on ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN marige.IF that makes them mad then thats to bad. I do not hate them I dont know them .Just because we stand for GOD .PEOPLE want GOD in ther lives only when there is hard times. I dont have to convince my self of nothing I read my BIBLE I know the truth.

  51. Andrea, actually there are alot of states, more than half that don't unfortunately………..the bible is a complete joke and is a novel, people are just easily swayed and need something to believe in!

  52. Derek Williams So what is your takeaway from this North Carolina amendment? Obviously it discriminates against gay people, but how does it discriminate against women?

  53. The Demoncrats are the ones with the religion of sacrificing children – they try to soften their evilness by calling it "Abortion." And why is it when someone with morals do not agree with a Liberal standpoint it is called "hate" but when a Liberal disagrees with God's Word (The Holy Bible), it is someone simply expressing their free speech? Liberals are definitely HYPOCRITES at the highest level!

  54. You go, Gail! Same sex marriage is an abomination to God, and He is the one who will one day judge all of those who have agreed with and participated in this evilness. It's in the Book.

  55. Ryan Carranza
    May 10, 2012

    Lynn Bryant … Gods word? Says who? I hope you do realize that MEN wrote those texts, who weren't even eye witnesses, and they were translated by MEN!! Sacrificing children? Who wants to have an abortion? Nobody wakes up one morning and decides to have an abortion because it is fun…

  56. Ryan Carranza
    May 10, 2012

    Lynn Bryant … God also condoned slavery… Do you condone it?

  57. Gail Godfrey You are hurting these people (emotionally and legally) at least your vote is!!! You just don't want to look at it that way! Again, you have made my point! You don't know them! So why should you be able to affect their lives? They don't know you and don't hate you or care about you. But I know for me and most of my friends, we are for all civil liberties, be it for African Americans, Women, Homosexuals, ect. I fight for your rights as a women and feel you deserve the same rights to make decisions for your body and no one else has the right to tell you what to do with it and your right to equal pay to men. Homosexuals are NOT trying to get you to change your opinion about your religion/beliefs or their lifestyle. All they want are the same privileges as you. They don't want you to invite them over for coffe. They want to be able to live their lives in peace with the ones they love! They do not harm to you WHAT SO EVER no matter what you make think.

  58. If the Bible is such a joke as you say, then why did our forefathers chose this publication as The Guide to build the greatest nation ever known to mankind? Oh, that's right, "people are just easily swayed and need something to believe in!" Well, you're a "people." Therefore, to use your own words, you must also believe in something. I will firmly admit that I believe in God's Written Word, because I want to believe in it, and I want to believe in it because I have seen it work! With that being said, what do you believe in? There has to be something, else you have lied. So why don't you share with the world the great source of wisdom that guides you on your daily path. Don't let everyone down now. Share this great insight that dominates your brain!

  59. Lynn Bryant Because those evil democrats do not protest at your church or bomb your missions or burn your bibles. Yet your group does!! That's why they consider you haters!!! What kind of dumb-thick headed moron thinks god tells them it is not ok for abortion but it is ok to throw bombs at an abortion clinic where there are people inside?
    And not everyone in the whole entire world believes in your god!!! why can't you get that through your skull??? Do liberals go knocking on your damn door wanting to explain why Jesus isn't real and want to leave you pamphlets? I get them all the time. At my door. On my car. As a f*ng tip in a restaurant!! Look in the mirror because YOU ARE THE HYPOCRITE!!!

  60. Lynn Bryant it's called evolution and evidence, your book has and supports non of the above and what exactly have you seen? i do not deny people the right to believe in whatever they want, but it's called science and it's called having a brain of your own………..we based our country on the bible because the bible itself was formed as a way to govern the people and get them to act a certain way and it worked……..it's your choice if you want to believe fact or fiction, just dont be disappointed when it doesn't come true!

  61. Burt Lancaster From what I understand, the amendment is against all civil partnerships, which can discriminate against straight women AND men. My mom is currently losing her house to my fathers' children from a previous relationship. My parents were married in 1979. Got divorced in 1996, but never split. Continued living together, had joint checking accounts, went on vacations alone together and to each others' families' milestones (weddings, births, ect). Yet Georgia does not recognize common law, which is similar to amendment and now my mom is losing everything she worked hard for because the house/cars/stocks were in my dads name and she has no rights according to the law.

  62. oh and he passed 2010. so they lived together for 31 years, more than 1/2 my mothers entire life.

  63. Lynn Bryant Well, I hope you follow the bible to the letter. I hope you don't eat pork, shrimp, lobster, ect. I hope you have no tattoos, (ear)piercings, ect. I hope you don't use electricity/drive a car on Sunday (yet I would put money on it that you watch Sunday football). I hope you don't let your husband touch you when you are menstruating. I hope if you know anyone who's husband died, you told them to have sex with that husbands brothers until she became pregnant. I hope you have no material possessions and everything you get you give to the poor (You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me Luke 18:22) I hope if someone physically harmed you in anyway, you did the exact same to them. Otherwise you have not done what your god has commanded and therefore will not gain entrance into heaven. Until you completely follow the book, don't tell others how to live.

  64. Ryan Carranza … Abortion: less than one percent of all abortions is done to save the life of the mother … so … somebody sure is going to a sex bed the night before, knowing that the next day they are going to have an ABORTION! Don't be a total imbecile like your leader! And concerning God's Word, well, fortunately I nor any other human has to defend that standpoint because through the fulfillment of prophecies, God Himself has already stamped His Signature of Authenticity on that document of 66 books written by 40 authors over a 1600 year span that join in the unity as One! No liberal has anything that can or will ever be able to compare. And during all that time, NO ONE has ever been able to prove that the Bible was not dictated by God Himself. Just like a Liberal….still fighting a battle that has been answered a long time ago. Same with Obama – and all his kind – his defeat has been prophesied a long time ago.

  65. Ryan Carranza
    May 10, 2012

    Lynn Bryant … You are delusional beyond repair.

  66. Lynn Bryant you chose to believe that these people are liberals? i for one am not and you live by a set of standards that was created thousands of years ago, the world does change and clearly it has changed without you, dont be so upset that not everybody agrees with your mumbo jumbo………….i bet you still think you should be able to have a slave too?!? know that you are the crazy and irrational one with your ancient set of beliefs and "morals" if it were up to your holy bible people who disagree wouldn't be able to breathe "your" air…………keep on spending your money on hopefully a ticket to paradise!

  67. Gail Godfrey just because you were "saved" doesn't mean god had anything to do with it, people do not want to give themselves credit, i've heard this b.s. story before, so you are a born again? the most crazy of them all, have fun with your sheltered life

  68. Nikki Nicedreads my advice to use is move out of the south i'm sick of hearing how everyone in the south is so open and inviting and will give you the shirt off your back, come on up to the north-east a place with the best education in the country, most money in the country, and most diversity!! oo yeah and for you bible thumpers A PLACE WHERE SOME YOUR BELOVED CHRISTIAN CHURCHES ACCEPT, ISN'T THAT WEIRD, KINDA MAKES ME THINK THEY JUST WANT YOUR MONEY!

  69. Byron Lovejoy – Well to me everything that God has promised has come true, so why shouldn't I believe in the Truth? And so … your big insight is EVOLUTION! What an idiotic religion to believe in. It takes more faith to believe what evolutionists preach than has ever been written in the Bible. I have totally investigated that teaching and it has so many holes in it that it would better to be called a SIEVE. I thought you had something intelligent to tell the world but if that is all you got, forget it. Do a little study on the age of the fields of relativity that surround the earth, for one. That alone destroys evolution except in the mind of diehard dummycrats. Evolution, you got to be kidding me. Write again when you come up with something that "holds water." hahahaha – that looks like I am making a laughing sound but I was actually trying to make a monkey sound, but I couldn't do it. Guess I better leave that up to you liberals and monkey-ites. Your family may have fell out of a tree, but mine was ordained from the beginning of time by God Himself!

  70. Move.

  71. Ryan, your bias is really showing in this post. The whole meaning behind God's Word is to set us ALL free since we ALL are born into the slavery of sin. Jesus Himself died to free us and the writings of Apostle Paul is there to show us how we can make that freedom a reality. Just admit it – you are the one that hates and you hate God because He is the One that is going to be your final Judge as are ALL of us. It's just that He has already said in His Word that for a man to have sex with another man is an abomination! He said it, I didn't. I just choose to believe what He says. Even in kindergarten common sense told us that the round peg did not go in the round peg. And since we are ALL born into sin, becasue of Satan, not God, we all have an area of our life that must be dealt with to find the peace that we all seek. With some it is stealing or alcohol or lying or gossiping or pedifile or incest or adultry…..yours happens to be homosexuality. And just like all the others, homosexuality is a forgiveable sin that God can remove from you as He has done for others. If you care, look up the life of Dennis Jernigan, a man who was a slave to homosexuality for years, but asked Jesus into his heart and now has a wife and a huge family. God can do the same for you.

  72. Lynn Bryant lynn atleast my theory has proof and just so you know there are some religions that believe god uses evolution, it's clear to me that you are a rambling betty who thinks that she knows all like most religious types……answer me one question what does your amazing book mention of dinosaurs??? ooo wait nothing, god didn't create dinosaurs? no it's not that it's that they didn't even know they existed at the time your BOOK was written, and so as you like to say that alone destroys the theory of creation, but keep on living your narrow minded life!

  73. Lynn Bryant the best thing i can say to you is that when obama trade plan works and goes into theory and tobacco farmers have to close there doors down there because they can't afford the taxes your state will be broke as a joke!!!

  74. Lynn Bryant exactly books written by authors, you may be smart after all, just have no common sense and aren't a realist!!! and where exactly do you get your statistics from, religious propaganda sites? i guess we should all vote for a flip flopping mormon right? because he did so well for the state of masachusetts!!

  75. Lynn Bryant no one has also been able to prove that god even exhisted or exhists, your such a moron!! two sides of every story sweetheart! thumpity thump thump….why dont you try living your life not the life that someone else believes you should live!

  76. Lynn Bryant your right it's in the BOOK!!! that's all just a book

  77. Lynn Bryant you are an ignorant social retard! you dont become gay there is no cure and it is not a problem, only to radicals who are living in the 15th century, time to catch up!

  78. Lynn Bryant why should I move when prejudice people like you are everywhere? Maybe you should use the mind God gave you and think for yourself and not listen to what other people tell you is "the right way" and draw conclusions yourself and stop being brainwashed into thinking hate towards a human being is ok!

  79. Byron Lovejoy Sounds like you and Andrea are the ones spitting hate like tobacco juice. And Andrea, if brainwashing means that I don't agree with liberal ideas that are destructive to our country, like the murder of INNOCENT unborn babies, and the AIDS causing lifestyle of homosexuality, then bring on the soap and let the cleansing continue!!!!!! You two know-it-alls probably do not even know that when AIDS was first announced it was called GRID, meaning Gay-Related-Immune-Deficiency. But you yell your hatred at decent Americans who have maintained the values that have made our country great just because we don't agree with your stupidity. What "small" people you are…really pathetic!

  80. Byron Lovejoy it feels great to have a fellow NH native speak their mind on this topic. While I completely respect everyones decisions and opinions on religion and how they feel, my biggest point of contention is when it comes down to it, who has the right to tell another person who they can and cannot make a life with. My intial comment was mostly posted out of anger, but I stand by what I said. God loves me, I love God…but I don't believe a book written by men to push their own agenda should be taken as the whole truth. The Bible will forever be the most controversial book ever written. One day I will have to answer for all that I have said, but I believe that when that time comes God will take me lovingly into his arms because in my heart I know He knows that I am good person, a person that will sacrifice my very soul for someone that I love…just like His son did for all of us. How can anyone that is willing to do something like that, Gay or Straight, be told they will rot in hell?

  81. Lynn Bryant you may think we are small people but atleast we are people from the 21st century and aren't stuck in the past……..yeah they may have called it GRID when they first discovered it but guess what sweet heart gays didn't and dont spread nor cause aids, your such a simple minded person, but you're the one calling us pathetic, are you mad because you can't have slaves anymore? oo yeah and dont forget the north always beats the south! education, money, business, what do you have besides your bogus religious hatred, i hope and i'm serious that you have a child and raise that child through your religious beliefs and in the end it comes to you one day and says mom i'm gay, mainly so that you feel ashamed because of your beliefs but also so your community will look upon you like you did something wrong, then maybe you will have a clue that it has nothing to do with deciding to be gay……….but honestly people like you with a set of beliefs like this that are so strict and abiding by standards that aren't allowed to bend or break are the most pathetic hate spewing people in our country, so go down to your local kkk meeting and talk with them because honestly they are probably the only one's who will even hear a word out of your crooked toothless fat mouth! oo yeah and i'm bringing this to another level now but you deserve it and in the end if heaven and hell does exist you will find yourself not in your oasis but in your hell as far as i'm concerned, if there was a god you would not be welcome you bring it to another level and are sickening! look me up B!tch

  82. Lynn Bryant I actually know what GRID meant thank you very much…but don't forget how this country was founded…it was founded on the slaugtering of innocent men, women and children. The entire Native American civilation was nearly erradicated because "the white man" needed land and told the ones that were not killed that they needed to conform to Christianity and turn their backs on their beliefs. And none of us are American just because we were born here, this country was formed by immigrants…English, Scottish, French, Italian etc. and we all came from there…save for the many other hundreds of people that fled to this country from elsewhere to make a life for themselves and escape their own religious persecution…but hey, that is why America was founded too, because greedy men wanted land to escape from the rule of a King and religious persecution….Hmmmm, interesting. So I am small and pathetic? Get your history right pal before you start spouting off a bunch of BS on his this country is so great. And as far as abortion goes, isn't there a story somewhere in the Bible where are man had to kill his own son because God told him so to prove His faith. Now forgive me if I am wrong, it has been a while since I went to church. I believe it was Abraham and Isaac???

  83. Lynn Bryant If AIDS was sent here to kill all the homosexuals, then how come heteros are able to contract it? There are very few diseases that are indigenous to one group, the most common being sickle cell anemia. And homosexuality is found in EVERY culture around the world and is not indigenous to one group or America. Syphilis is alot older than AIDS and it is believed to have started in Europe (Spain, France, Italy, England) and killed alot of (Christian) white people. So does your theory about god sending diseases still stand when it's against your people? Or is it only when it is convenient for you and your hate?

  84. Lynn Bryant God gave man free will. Which means if he wants us as individuals to choose for ourselves what to believe in then who the hell are you to tell anyone else what to do or think or act. I will actually say I disagreed with some of my constituents here that have told you to "think for yourself" and abandon your religion. I have no problem with you believing in fairy tales, but I have a BIG problem when you think it is ok to force me to believe in it to or to live by your morals. I work at a non-profit organization and help raise money for blind people. I am an atheist and most of my coworkers are Mormon. But we all work together for the people we are trying to assist. I didn't need a damn rule book to tell me right from wrong and I don't do the job I do to get brownie points. I do it because it makes me feel good!! Again, you can have your bible and your beliefs, but keep them to your circle of friends/family and don't force it on the rest of us.

  85. Ryan Carranza
    May 11, 2012

    Lynn Bryant … You need to be checked in to a mental institution. Society does not need bigots like you trying to tell everyone how to live. Homosexuals are not telling people how to live, they just want equal rights. You obviously know very little about the history of this country and the history of your own God that you praise so much.

  86. Ryan Carranza
    May 11, 2012

    Lynn Bryant … Prove to me there is a God, and I'll show you a unicorn.

  87. Danny Sayers
    May 11, 2012

    This is just pathetic. Damned bigots; if two people of the same sex want to be together, who the hell are you to stop them? The human race needs to evolve and stop using your so-called "god's" word to justify your predjudiced, close-minded actions.

  88. Gail Godfrey You can have your beliefs, but passing laws that try to force others to follow your way of thinking is not only hurtful for them, but actually goes against why this country was founded—freedom of religion. The founders did not want to be forced to be part of the Church of England. If gays want to marry, your church does not have to provide that service. IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

  89. It is one thing to say something & another to prove it. Let's see the proof that a man is born with a drive to put his membrum virile in another man's posterior orifice. This is unlikely genetically since such an act does not produce offspring, but disease — the result is negative, not positive.

    All sin is genetic in a sense that we inherit the sin nature from Adam. However, I know of no proof that specific sin tendencies are inherited; like thieves giving birth to thieves, who cannot control their urge to steal. But if specific sinful tendencies are inherited & not free choice, that does not excuse responsibility either.

    Men are born with a capacity to enjoy friction on the membrum virile and to seek it, however. But to use another man's posterior orifice for that purpose is a choice, a disgusting & abominable choice. It also is harmful & no act of agape love.

  90. The equal right is to marry a person of the opposite sex. There is no right to put the membrum virile into a man's posterior orifice. Will you next claim a right for the ear?

    Love (agape) seeks the best for another person. Abuse of a posterior orifice is not love, but depraved abuse of another person. Promotion of the membrum virile into a posterior orifice is not love.

  91. Well, you are invited to repent of your religion and stop hating. Also you can stop lying about persons. Stop trying to lump Biblicism into a bag with idolatries as "religion.' It is not hate, but love, to try to dissuade a person practicing abomination to cease his self-destructive path. But it is hateful to accuse such persons of hate.

  92. Enoch Bethany wow congrats you use your fancy words to show what? that you're educated? if you were so educated you wouldn't be spewing things from the past when people didn't have rights, when women weren't considered equal, blacks were slaves and said to be punished by god

  93. Enoch Bethany wow congrats you use your fancy words to show what? that you're educated? if you were so educated you wouldn't be spewing things from the past when people didn't have rights, when women weren't considered equal, blacks were slaves and said to be punished by god

  94. how are you a top commenter? you sit here and discriminate this and that saying its a choice when people are telling you they were born gay? you refuse to believe this because of the bible? that's ignorant, plain and simple!

  95. Enoch Bethany ok you are just a wacktard…http://anthropologist.livejournal.com/1314574.html read this…but on the same token, I suppose it is ok for a man to put his "membrum virile" in a womans posterior?

  96. Enoch Bethany it is you that hates, not me, for nothing you say bothers me, nor do i discriminate!

  97. Andrea Boobar it's ok let enoch live his life with his religious discrimination but he should know if he goes to most places talking like that he will likely be hauled of to a state institution, not one where there will be praise but one where he will be heavily medicated!

  98. Enoch Bethany No one, especially not the government, should be able to regulate love!!! Most of the people that are having sex, are not in love! And how does one determine if two partners are in love or lust? If you want to sound extreme and stupid, then I will follow your reasoning. A mother that takes the temperature of her infant child through a rectal thermometer does not love her child. You are an idiot!

  99. Heterosexual sex creates disease. Hand shakes spread disease. If you want to start saying that some higher power created one type of disease to abolish a particular group of people then that same theory should account for all other diseases and all people.

  100. Enoch Bethany Also, if by your theory men should ONLY have intercourse with women's vaginas and nothing else, then all sex toys and masturbation should be outlawed. But government is not set up to regulate peoples sexual habits.