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Joe Arpaio Claims He Has New Evidence That Obama Can’t Hold Office

Joe Arpaio

Maricopa County, AZ – Self Proclaimed “America’s” Sheriff Joe Arpaio is planning on making a second announcement concerning his “investigation” into President Obama’s eligibility to run for President or hold the office of President. He plans to make the announcement in lat May or early June.

Sheriff Arpaio has named his investigatory team the “Cold Case Posse”. Mike Zullo, the “Posse’s” lead investigator told CBS News 5 that the announcement will release new findings including the mystery of Obama’s 1980 registration for the draft.

Zullo told CBS,

“We didn’t make a mistake the first time. We’re not making a mistake this time. The Sheriff, he really thought [the investigation] would have settled the issue last time. I thought it would have cleared it up the last time.”

Shortly after President Obama released his long form birth certificate Arpaio and the Posse announced that their investigation into the birth certificate proved it was a fake. What made the announcement interesting was just how little anyone cared.

During his recent interview Zullo sad that he didn’t believe this new announcement would have any impact whatsoever on the Birther case. He was asked by CBS News 5 if he thought it would have an impact and he just said “no”.

Arpaio previously called his investigation into the President’s birth certificate a “favor” to Obama.

Arpaio said on Tuesday,

“What should I do, throw it in the waste basket and forget about it, like everyone else is this country has done? But once again, I take my elected sheriff’s status very serious, and when the people ask me to do something I try to do it regardless of the repercussions, the politics and the media.”

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255 Responses to “Joe Arpaio Claims He Has New Evidence That Obama Can’t Hold Office”

  1. Jill Alden

    He just wants to draw attention away from HIS pending investigation. Move on Arpaio….time for a new sherriff.

  2. Scottie Lowe

    Cunby J. Stevenson If I'm not mistaken, he said Malcolm X had a plan to kill all white people or something like that and that Obama was groomed to fulfill his plan. That would make the foreign born Obama assertion fly out the window but hey, what's a little illogical, irrational, insane thinking among friends.

  3. Ryan Carranza

    Funny… There has been 43 consecutive all white-male presidents, none of which have ever been questioned about their eligibility to run for office. All of a sudden we have a black president and now people question his eligibility? Is it just coincidence that this guy is from the South?

  4. Cunby J. Stevenson

    I do know he's making the case for the dumbest cop in America.

  5. David A Deal

    If he had any evidence don't you think every Rethuglican Senator nwould jump all over it. They KNOW it is BS. It is one of those "Tell a lie often enough" and someone will believe it, especially the one's who want to.

  6. Giap Christy Laura

    OH please stop with the race baiting crap. First of all Obama AKA Barry S. has multiple social security numbers, mass spots missing from his supposed time in the USA…schooling in Indonesia….if he were WHITE (which he half is) we would still be suspicious when someone just pops out of no where. Eligibility SHOULD matter to each AMERICAN and for EACH person who runs for office. PERIOD. They did it to McCain and they are doing it to Romney….so please cut the crap.

  7. Randi Garske

    Arizona is not considered a part of the South. That pretty much ends at the Texas border. Considering he is half white, can't pull the race card.

  8. Ryan Carranza

    Randi Garske … Arizona is the Southwest of the United States. The word "South" is in there… Also, just because he is "half-white" means I cannot state the obvious fact that not one single "full-white" president in our nations history has ever been questioned like Obama has? Is it coincidence? Seriously…

  9. 'John Larrauri

    even the article says that on his last announcement there was a lack of caring from the country so why does he think anybody gives a rat's ass about this. He has nothing better to do with his time than waste all of ours.

  10. Susan Johnston

    He is totally right. Thank you from all the people who respect the POTUS & his office. I would expect the other side would do the same, if not worse. Trust no one. They all have their own agenda. Race baiting is stupid, andt so is class warfare. Please focus on the things that matter. Stop trying to change the focus onto something shiny.

  11. Giap Christy Laura

    Ryan Carranza BULLCRAP…they did the very same thing to McCain…and please tell me that you are aware that HILLARY CLINTON'S camp started this whole thing while she was running against Obama…so if you are say the LEFT IS RACIST…then I guess I can not argue that with you ;-)

  12. Telisa Crowder

    Just get the shit out of the white house……. put it back to old school America needs to sweep its own front porch!!!!!

  13. Ryan Carranza

    Giap Christy Laura … You can argue with me all you want, but who are these "birthers" and what side of the aisle do they sit on? Riddle me that… The left and right both have their agendas, but explain why the so called "racist" left elected a black man. To stick it to "the man"?

  14. Ryan Carranza

    Those that believe those lies already have their minds set… It's just adding justification to a BS lie and those that believe it could careless. It's unfortunate that we have people who seriously go out of their way to try and prove our president was not born in Hawaii. It's pathetic. Like these people are somehow patriotic and heroic.

  15. Randi Garske

    Ryan Carranza – The Southwest is different than the South. I grew up in the South so I know what I am talking about. Completely different atmosphere and attitude between the South and the Southwest.

    As Giap Christy Laura states – Hilary Clinton's camp started this when she was running against Obama.

    Look at all the flak that Romney is taking because he is Mormon and his wife doesn't work (no, I am not a Romney support). Every presidental candidate has come under scrutiny for something – religion, heritage, service in the military (Dan Quail and the National Guard). Why should Obama be any different?

  16. Giap Christy Laura

    Ryan Carranza …that's your problem….the Presi"debt" is STICKING it to every AMERICAN CITIZEN REGARDLESS of their shade. So instead of DIVIDE and CONQUER AMERICA, lets focus on UNITY instead of race baiting….I am in the middle of the isle and EXHAUSTED from the left and the right……so to me BOTH SIDES are wrong….but Obama will be VETTED this time…whether you scream RACISM to the top of your lungs…it will happen along with ROMNEY……you are aware that his qualification/eligibility came into question…right?!? and is on going with most people.

  17. Giap Christy Laura

    Ryan Carranza …that's your problem….the Presi"debt" is STICKING it to every AMERICAN CITIZEN REGARDLESS of their shade. So instead of DIVIDE and CONQUER AMERICA, lets focus on UNITY instead of race baiting….I am in the middle of the isle and EXHAUSTED from the left and the right……so to me BOTH SIDES are wrong….but Obama will be VETTED this time…whether you scream RACISM to the top of your lungs…it will happen along with ROMNEY……you are aware that his qualification/eligibility came into question…right?!? and is on going with most people.

  18. Ryan Carranza

    Randi Garske … Whoever said he shouldn't be? But his records are validated by the state of Hawaii… Why question this any longer? I didn't even vote for Obama. I don't plan on to vote for him in November, but I am not going to literally go out of my way to try and convince people he wasn't born in the US. It's a new low in the political discourse is our president has to get on national television and on the internet to prove that he seriously is from Hawaii. Imagine if Al Sharpton questioned Reagan's citizenship… There are some things that are outrageous and ridiculous. This is one of them.

  19. Christopher Alaimo

    I'd have fired this man long ago. Since when does anyone give a fvk what the security guard thinks about the CEO? As a taxpaying citizen, his "concerns" are fine. As an elected Sheriff, he's blatantly disregarding his own responsibilities and abusing his office to facilitate a ridiculous publicity stunt and racist agenda. for the last 5 years.
    If memory serves, this is the same guy that runs prison labor camps in the arizona desert that are just rampant with human rights violations and unnecessary cruelty. F*** this guy.

  20. Ryan Carranza

    Giap Christy Laur… WHat's my problem? His debt and his campaign to get re-elected? No it's not… I am not dividing anything here, merely stating the obvious that a lot of people seem to think is not reality. I despise both parties, but why go after the president in such a low way? This is what the article is about… Not about Obama's re-election or Romney's presidential run.

  21. Giap Christy Laura

    Ryan Carranza YOU ARE RACE BAITING…..PLAN AND SIMPLE. What YOU stated in your comment is not true, IF they only vetted Obama and NOT McCain…and NOW ROMNEY…I would agree with you….but that is NOT the case.

  22. Doug Johnson

    Notice that all comments comes from the kid's section of the country.They are not old enough to really matter though the law say they are.Young and against any law enforcement.Keep up the good work Sheriff!

  23. James Kopp

    wow guy you know if obama wanted to he could silence this bs for good and really no one really cares bc hes done a damn good job so far no one can say other wise if they do there dumbasses.

  24. Randi Garske

    Ryan Carranza – it's not a new low. It's no different than any of the campaigns since the US became a county and elected its first president.

    I have no problem with this guy continuing his investigation. It's right as a US citizen.

  25. Vickie Anne

    This poor excuse for a "Sheriff" can proclaim that he is Santa Claus for all I care… that does not make him correct OR truthful. He is a disgrace, as are his archiac, primative, and racist practices. This whole "birther" argument is over… yet he chooses to use the "socialist media" to propagate his ridiculous agenda… unreal. I guess the media is only useful when it serves him… if he had any REAL evidence (which anyone with any common sense knows he cannot possibly possess), he would be inside the courtroom, not outside droning on to the press! Furthermore, his "tent city" jail is a disgrace to American jurisprudence and in violation of the "cruel and unusual punishment" principle of the 8th Amendment. Joe needs to go!

  26. Vickie Anne

    I am 49 years old and I think the man is not only a moron, but a criminal too!

  27. Howard Wu

    Not his jurisdiction. Eligibilty is determined by the members of the Electorial College. If he doesn't understand what that means, he shouldn't be county sheriff.

  28. Velvet Michael

    LMAO! Ok, if what he has is sooooo definitive that it will prove that President Obama can't hold office why is he waiting until late May or early June to bring it out. He's never had anything to prove that the President can't hold office. This is just a big bunch of bs that he hopes will get him re-elected as Sheriff. Sheriff Joe is an embarrassment to the state of AZ. I really miss living in AZ, but I don't miss Sheriff Joe, he's had his day and has let his own press go to his head. I'm surprised he can even get through his office door his head is so big.

  29. Doug Johnson

    Vickie Anne Where he stands as sheriff you have to be mean and I pat him on the back for setting a good example for what a sheriff should be.

  30. Doug Johnson

    Vickie Anne Where he stands as sheriff you have to be mean and I pat him on the back for setting a good example for what a sheriff should be.

  31. Florencio Bocanegra

    He is a nut I think he is related to Rush Limbaugh.

  32. Michele Jonason Wolfe

    Ryan Carranza, oh REALLY? They haven't been questioned???! What happened to Clinton just because he had an affair??! Everyone made a big deal about that because he didn't admit to it, not that it was any of OUR business…yet everyone made judgements on him. Now this idiot (just because he happens to be *half-black* or whatever he is) lies about his birth place among other things and no one cares?! He is supposed to be a president of THIS country! FROM this country! That is far more important than if someone got a bl*w j*b while in office or not!!

  33. Michele Jonason Wolfe

    Maybe you should read some of your history, Ryan!! Get with the program!

  34. Michele Jonason Wolfe

    Why is that? Because he's stating FACTS that you don't want to hear just because Obama happens to be partially black? Do we really need a muslim in office that's supposed to be from THIS country? You don't care to find out his real agenda? It could be a matter of our security in this country. It IS a big deal!

  35. Michele Jonason Wolfe

    Prisoners shouldn't HAVE rights and they are in prison for a reason. Who cares about their *human rights*! We NEED more REAL men in this country that are going to take a stand! Not some cowards or sheep like the majority of this country has in it!

  36. Denise Hopkins-Cook

    Michele Jonason Wolfe Show me the FACTS. We are 4 years in people. If there was something there, someone would have found it by now. If this baffoon had any FACTS, then he wouldn't be holding them. He'd be screaming from the highest mountain. So yeah…SHOW ME THE FACTS!!

  37. Denise Hopkins-Cook

    Michele Jonason Wolfe Show me the FACTS. We are 4 years in people. If there was something there, someone would have found it by now. If this baffoon had any FACTS, then he wouldn't be holding them. He'd be screaming from the highest mountain. So yeah…SHOW ME THE FACTS!!

  38. Denise Hopkins-Cook

    You don't have to be mean Doug. The only requirement of his job is to uphold the law. You can uphold the law w/o being mean.

  39. Sharon Koester

    Excuse me folks while I ask you to read the constitution. A natural born citizen may hold the office of president (one who's parents are both US citizens). There is a difference between 'natural born' and 'native born'.
    While you are at it, perhaps you could read The Northwest Ordinance, article the 3rd. We are supposed to be a free people and we are gleefully handing over to the government those freedoms we say we hold so dear.
    Please look at your elected officials (not just their party). Do you want to keep your freedoms? How are they voting?
    Do some research, arm yourself with the facts of History and help to restore our beliefs and freedoms.
    Have a great day, unless you have made other plans.

  40. Doug Johnson

    Denise Hopkins-Cook The facts are there and the house and congress knows all the info but they are trying to ride it out hope'n that he will lose the 2012 elections and then go away quietly into the night.All the truth is out there and a good place to start is "The Truth.Org".Good hunting,that's how I started cause I wouldn't believe anyone.Had to find out for my self.

  41. Martha Carney

    Vickie Anne based on what? if you look at his history, it only showes character and bravery. he is a real man who will essentially take the bull by the horns!

  42. Denise Hopkins-Cook

    Doug Johnson Please. I don't have time for your propaganda. The facts are at the Bureau of Vital Statistics in Hawaii!!

  43. Michele Jonason Wolfe

    Denise Hopkins-Cook LMAO! Sorry, but you are a waste of time. Only when things affect YOU personally, like everyone else, will you all care.

  44. Mark Minyard

    You might be one of the dumest people to ever comment on a Skrillex link.

  45. Martha Carney

    look back at the recorded evidence like how barry sotelo applied for aid as a foreign student or used social security numbers from dead people in other states. yes, obama, aka sotelo has told lies about his birth and submitted false documents so often, taking advantage that people give him the benefit of the doubt, including senators…

  46. Martha Carney

    I don't get what your insulting arpaio would have to do with limbaugh, unless you are predjudiced against persons who are brave enough to do their own thing, especially if it is to work hard for conservative or old fashioned truth, accountablility, law and order?

  47. Vickie Anne

    Joe is running a JAIL not a prison. Many people in jail have not been convicted of anything… they either cannot make bail/bond or are awaitting trial. Perhaps you are not familiar with the term "innocent until proven guilty?"

  48. Allen Bates

    Michele Jonason Wolfe why is it you people keep saying he is a Muslim and if he was that is legal in this country. Do you feel the same way about Mormans or Jews? How about Buddists or Hindu. Your statement shows your racism against the President and anyone of a different faith than Christian of which Obama is

  49. Martha Carney

    how do you know the other presidents did not have to provide eligibility somewhere along the line? if you think any of them also provided false documentation like when they registered to vote or have been asked to provide a birth certificate, i would hope it is brought up and investigated, even posthumously. There is good reason for the requirements and they should be adhered to. best to uncover any coverups now…

  50. Allen Bates

    Doug Johnson He did show his real one. He is from Hawaii and has a birth certificate that proves it. In case you didn't know Hawaii is in the United States of America

  51. Martha Carney

    boy you people are quick to cry racism! there is something wrong here. it almost seems like many of you would rather insult people who have questions about the truth, than have the truth uncovered. are we supposed to feel bad and racist if we use our intelligence and morality and demand a public employee for whom we are paying, use legitimate documents and not take advantage of our trust?

  52. Martha Carney

    what laundry are you referring to? I have heard he is a good housekeeper except that he put red in with the white and dyed the inmates clothes pink!

  53. Donna Bogue

    EACH and every one of them showed that they were Natural born Citizens. WITH the exception of ONE (that lied)besides Ovomit, Each and EVERY ONE of them was eligible as the DEMANDS of our CONSTITIUTION. that ONE was Chester A. ARTHUR – Not an NBC or original Citizen . He was NOT an Article II NBC since he was born before father's naturalization. Seated due to assassination of President Garfield. But based on the facts uncovered in later history, he was unconstitutionally seated due to the falsified nativity story and fraud by Chester Arthur which was not fully discovered and proven until long after his death. He burned all his early family records to cover up his lies and fraud. He was born circa1829, allegedly in VT (SOUND LIKE OVOMIT?????)

    EDUCATE yourself on the Constitution!!! It says that ONLY A CITIZEN AT THE TIME OF THE SIGNING OF THE CONSTITUTION or A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN can be POTUS or VP!!

    Our 8th President was the FIRST one that started the NBC status as POTUS. That was: Martin VAN BUREN – Article II (NBC) both parents Citizens when he was born – was born in 1782 in NY. This was the first President qualified under the NBC clause. He was born in the USA to two Citizen parents. His parents were original Citizens who gained their citizenship by adhering to the Revolution in 1776.

    YOU are an IDIOT if you think this has ANYTHING to do with COLOR! DO you NOT realize that there are those that are TRYING to make our Constitution NULL AND VOID?? and if you LET them, it is NO ONE'S FAULT but your OWN when you end up with a COMMUNIST AMERICA!

  54. Martha Carney

    who said he is doing this in his official capacity? every citizen should be responsible and any one of us should be looking into our nations or neighborhoods problems and working on setting things straight. it is even your duty to vote, if you step up and do it…

  55. Donna Bogue

    You are WRONG–THEY ALL KNOW OVOMIT is NOT a NBC–They CHOOSE to IGNORE it because EVERY POLITICIAN in DC IS CROOKED! They are NOT "Jumping up and DOWN" because Romney MORE THAN LIKELY is NOT a Natural Born Citizen EITHER. Congress declared that George Romney was INELIGIBLE to run for POTUS in 1967–He was NOT a Natural Born Citizen…The QUESTION is, WHEN did he BECOME a CITIZEN??? BEFORE MITT WAS BORN????

  56. Martha Carney

    clue me in: what is he being investigated for and by whom?

  57. Diana Mirazo

    jaja thats funny but ya dude needs to clean his act up first before he talks about any body else doing something wrong

  58. David A Deal

    Martha Carney – Thes things you claim are FALSE and fabricated. Go to Snopes to get the truth behind the blatant lies like the SSN claim. It was totally bogus as are most of these wild conspiracies. Do some integrity backed research before you swallow this crap.

  59. Michele Jonason Wolfe

    Allen Bates if he's from another country, we should KNOW, plain and simple! He doesn't belong in office if he's from another country, much less if he's hiding that fact and IS a muslim. I don't CARE what FAITH someone practices….to each his own. That sh*t doesn't faze me one bit…but don't LIE about where you're from and then you want *open borders*, Muslim Brotherhood, etc. You supposedly believe the stories from 9/11 about the *invasion*, then why wouldn't you want to know IF our president might be lying about his birthplace? If he is, I would be wondering what his agenda really IS. He's got everyone believing anything he says JUST because his skin color is darker, and using that to his advantage and no one cares to question anything past that. You're just following the *flock* with your pathetic statements about *racism*. Don't you have anything better than that? That's what's wrong with this country. Everyone is a follower and is so closed minded with what is really going on out there. WAKE UP!

  60. Michele Jonason Wolfe

    Vickie Anne what he is doing is LEGAL…so get over it! Stop turning things around.

  61. Thomas Hannan

    Uhh… Joe…. you are a tin-horn sheriff in an AZ county. How in the world do you figure you have ANY jurisdiction over a Federal issue?

  62. David A Deal

    Donna Bogue – You mean in your humble opinion I am mistaken? No you are clearly one of those conspiracy theory types that trusts no one and believes nothing BUT the craziness. Fisrt one has to ask the question, "What is a Natural Born Citizen?" It is NOT spelled out in the clause. Marco Rubio for example was born in Florida but neither of his parents were citizens. The networks ignore these things because they report ACTUAL news, NOT this baseless dribble. They should EXPOSE these lies for what they are. For this failure they are derilict!

  63. Donna Bogue

    David A Deal YOU need to do some "research" BY THE WAY, It has ALREADY been proven that SNOPES lies too. Want some LINKS?? I have PLENTY that will show you EXACTLY what the POS you are TAKING up for really is…A LYING FRAUD.

  64. Donna Bogue

    Ryan Carranza Sorry sport, it does not matter WHERE he was born–the FACT that his FATHER was a BRITISH CITIZEN makes him INELIGIBLE to even BE POTUS. READ the Constitution, THEN read the SCOTUS decisions that DEFINE Natural Born Citizen–THEN READ how the Dems TRIED to have that part of our Constitution changed 8 TIMES before Ole Barry ran for POTUS.

  65. David A Deal

    Randi Garske -Yet many feel if someone has even but one drop of Negro blood that they are tainted and to be considered black. That was and sadly to some still is the standard which is their way on degredation in their minds. I KNOW bigots personally but one could argue they wouldn't have voted for him or supported him anyway because they ALL belong to the Republican Bloc of hard core voters. BUT the way they talk about him (and this is from first hand knowledge of many of these types) it is obvious their is far more hatred of him than of any previous Democrat President. So to deny that bigotry isn't a factor is to intentionally blind oneself from the stark truth.

  66. James Kopp

    Mark Minyard wow guess ignorance is bliss to those that have no future look at yourself commenting on something that is of no concern to you dude get a life and get a girl friend or something bc only god knows you will always be ignorant to opinion

  67. Florencio Bocanegra

    Martha Carney THEY BOTH SPEAK WITH A FORK TONGUE!!

  68. Allen Bates

    Michele Jonason Wolfe How about insane? Show the proof, you know, the facts that he is from another country. No one including Joe Arpaio has show any facts. They keep saying that they have them but they never show them. How many more pointless news conferences is this clown going to call saying he has the evidence? Why doesn't he show it at these grandstanding shows of ignorance. He is just trying to throw people off from the investigation of him. Stop drinking the Koolaid and sober up. The subtext of this bullsh!t of Obama is a Muslim is Obama is a N word plain and simple you say it in your statement that "JUST because his skin color is darker and using that to his advantage". So stop it!!!

  69. James Kopp

    Mark Minyard aww the school janitor has a opinion waaaa to bad you'll never see farther than that bc you can't afford ramen noodle soup

  70. Vickie Anne

    I am not turning anything around, merely stating fact and law. If you cannot handle that, perhaps it is you who should get over it.

  71. Donna Bogue

    Allen Bates Sorry to tell you this, but JOE got a LOT of his info from people that have been RESEARCHING it BEFORE Ole Barry got into OFFICE. UNLESS you are TOO LAZY, I suggest you start researching like Michele, I, and several OTHERS have because we did NOT want to just "Take someone's word" for it….You MIGHT be AMAZED at what you find out…then again, probably not because you STILL believe that Ovomit is not a FRAUD.

  72. Donna Bogue

    Allen Bates BTW…it ALSO does not matter WHERE he was born….he is NOT a "Natural Born Citizen" as the Constitution of the United States of AMERICA DEMANDS that he be" His Father was a BRITISH subject and THAT in itself makes him INELIGIBLE. He could be shit on a rock or born in a manger for all I care–HE IS INELIGIBLE PERIOD.

  73. Vickie Anne

    His "tent-city" jail is a blatant violation of the 8th Amendment. I love how people refer to the Constitution only when it suits them…. lolol.

  74. Marvin Mulder

    The first clue (for those of you who may not be convinced) is that this is posted in the "The Inquisitor". Right wing wack job! This guy should be taken out and beaten with his own investigation. It would inflict minor bodily harm.

  75. Donna Bogue

    HE is the LAST that that will STAND between you and a FEMA camp if Ovomit declares Martial law IDIOT. Oh, and it ISN'T "prison labor camps" …MAYBE you should RESEARCH exactly what Joe does before you shoot off your mouth.

  76. Donna Bogue

    Vickie Anne Funny you should say that since Obama signed NDAA and two other bills that will TAKE away ALL YOUR RIGHTS if HE decides he does not like you during civil unrest and after….poor, misguided fool….Just amazes me how STUPID people are and just blithely go about their lives while all our freedoms are being taken away….WAKE UP–START doing some STUDYING on what is going ON!

  77. Donna Bogue

    Martha Carney He is being investigated by the DOJ..seem like a coincidence? NOT! and Jill….Sorry to bust your bubble, but the PEOPLE want him to STAY IN OFFICE! HE at least has had the GUTS to stand up when our OWN CONGRESS know Ovomit is not eligible but just "hope it will all go away in Nov".

  78. David A Deal

    Donna Bogue -.
    Snopes and Hoax are web sites earning money from advertisers and others based upon the number of people that visit their sites. They are in the business of giving information to the public. If they lose credibility they lose viewers.

    I use these FactCheck, Snopes, and Hoax websites as a balance to understand the facts and then make up my own mind
    . Snopes.com, FactCheck.org provide a valuable service to the public. Challenging their integrity misleads the note recipient to believe the assertion erroneously. The people releasing the mis-information know the accusations will prove false after a time. It does not matter to them there are false or half-truths. The accusations were made and "genuine" apologies can be given later. The accusors will continue to distribute new and old mis-information and accusations. The intent is to create an unfriendly media environment for the target. While the false accusations are active, anyone telling the truth or refuting the releases are personally attacked. It is the "Big Lie" strategy.
    by Frank – icare2be (writer), Aurora, CO, September 08, 2010

  79. Donna Bogue

    David A Deal you are EXACTLY right that Rubio is NOT a NBC. Most LIKELY, NEITHER is Romney and IF Americans do NOT stand up and DEMAND they follow the Constituion, it will be CHANGED by FIAT and cannot be changed back!
    Natural Born Citizen HAS BEEN SPELLED out by the Supreme Court….
    Supreme Court Cases that Cite “Natural Born Citizen” as One Born on U.S. Soil to Citizen Parents –

    Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)

    Shanks v DuPont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830)

    Dred Scott v Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)

    Minor v Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875)

    United States v Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

    Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939)
    ALSO, Constitutional Convention – “Citizen” v “Natural Born Citizen":

    When developing a new U.S. Constitution for the United States of America, Alexander Hamilton submitted a suggested draft on June 18, 1787. In addition, he also submitted to the framers a proposal for the qualification requirements in Article II as to the necessary Citizenship status for the office of President and Commander in Chief of the Military.

    Alexander Hamilton’s suggested presidential eligibility clause:

    No person shall be eligible to the office of President of the United States unless he be now a Citizen of one of the States, or hereafter be born a Citizen of the United States.

    Many of the founders and framers expressed fear of foreign influence on the person who would in the future serve as President of the United States since this particular office was singularly and uniquely powerful under the proposed new Constitution. This question of foreign influence was elevated when John Jay considered the additional power granted to the Presidency during times of war, that is when he serves as Commander in Chief of the military. Jay felt strongly that whoever served as President and Commander In Chief during times of war must owe their sole allegiance to and only to the United States.

    Because this fear of foreign influence on a future President and Commander in Chief was strongly felt, Jay took it upon himself to draft a letter to General George Washington, the presiding officer of the Constitutional Convention, recommending/hinting that the framers should strengthen the Citizenship requirements for the office of the President.

    John Jay was an avid reader and proponent of natural law and particularly Vattel’s codification of natural law and the Law of Nations. In his letter to Washington he said that the Citizenship requirement for the office of the commander of our armies should contain a “strong check” against foreign influence and he recommended to Washington that the command of the military be open only to a “natural born Citizen”. Thus Jay did not agree that simply being a “born Citizen” was sufficient enough protection from foreign influence in the singular most powerful office in the new form of government. Rather, Jay wanted to make sure the President and Commander In Chief owed his allegiance solely to the United States of America. He wanted another adjective added to the eligibility clause, i.e., ‘natural’. And that word ‘natural’ goes to the Citizenship status of one’s parents via natural law.

    Below is the relevant change to Hamilton’s proposed language detailed in Jay’s letter written to George Washington dated 25 July 1787:

    Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Command in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.

    Not ONLY that, Obama HIMSELF signed legislation that acknowledged McCain as a "NBC" and the DISCUSSION of this STATED a CITIZEN born to TWO CITIZEN PARENTS of the USA. ALSO , when the FRAMERS of the Constitution were CREATING it, WE (AMERICANS) have the LETTERS of discussion between them TALKING about not just having a Citizen to be Eligible. The LETTERS discuss the Fact of a person born in the USA to PARENTS that are BOTH Citizens of the USA so there would not be a problem of allegiance to another country. Like I said…START LOOKING THINGS UP!

  80. Vickie Anne

    Donna Bogue your constant yelling and calling everyone names, insisting that only your research is correct, and quoting obvious conspiracy theory rags is only making you look bad. Take a xanax.

  81. Vickie Anne

    David A Deal – You are correct, but apparently that little bit of sense is lost of these birthers.

  82. David A Deal

    Vickie Anne – Thank you but one must realize that these birthers are the same ilk that are trying to set women's rights back to the 1800's and they do not see the mother as much more than an incubator!

  83. Vickie Anne

    David A Deal – Scares me for my not-yet-conceived grandchildren! I have advocated for women's rights and women's healthcare on a national and global level for many years and frankly, these people scare the hell outta me!!

  84. David A Deal

    Michele Jonason Wolfe – first of all even if someone is convicted and imprisoned they still have basic human rights. Secondly I believe they should be able to vote because the laws that may have put them there and their punishments are often changing. Plus when they get out the laws that elected officials make will apply to them so they too should have a say in what laws are made through the representation process. Third there are actually people in prison who are innocent but corrupt prosecutors and poor representation and mistaken eye witnesses make mistakes. Fourth- an example of laws that have cost us huge amounts of money and in themselves doubled or even tripled the prison population are the changes made to drug laws over the past 20 years which made sentencing harsher often for simple usage of illegal drugs in which the primary victim of the crime is the person convicted who may have not been a real threat to society but mostly to themselves. Then there were the third strike you're out laws, the crack cocaine laws which were harsher than powder cocaine thus being discriminatory because they essentially targeted blacks who used the cheaper crack form putting a greater percentage of poor blacks in prison while allowing wealthier whites to get off easier. I knew a great guy who was 19 and his girlfriend was 15 but got pregnant and he ended up going to prison for 2-3 years for statutory rape and then married her when he got out. A couple years later his wife left him for his brother and ran off to California. A couple months later he gets a phone call and they had put his 5 year old daughter on the phone to ask daddy to come get her from Indiana. He and daughter lived happily ever after except he is on a sex registry (bullshit). Who were the victims there? I'm an atheist but I try to adhere to the "Judge NOT lest ye be judged philosophy giving everyone a pass on their first mistake in most cases at least. You must be a Republican because they seem to have problems seeing things in shades of gray as opposed to black and white.

  85. Doug Johnson

    David A Deal I beg to differ with you on that.President Carter was bashed and we all know why,he was the worst president we ever had UNTIL the O'dumbass got in there.I want you to tell me what this president has done since he's got in office.His record stinks,His morals just isn't there,the first thing the man got in office his main goal was O'bamacare when it should of been on jobs.Do your home work on this man and you will find out that he's in there to run the dollar bill in the grave.Do the study and I bet you will want to puke.He's a commie bastard that doesn't know how to run anything,hell he can't even play golf.He should be good at it cause he lives on the range wile the first lady is running around spending my money and my grandkids.So I would love for someone on here to tell me what this SOB has done??????He hasn't stood on one promise.He's a socialist commie bastard that has ran around bow'n down to our enemy's.He's a marxist and do your home work on that and you tell me,"is this what you want for this country??He's an idiot and I am tired of him pulling the wool over everyone's eyes.If the one world order is what you want then vote the bastard back in and once the one world order is hear then you and people like you will be bitching the most.Sorry to point this out to you but this man does not have your best interest in mind,he has an agenda and he will lie cheat and steal to get it past no matter the back lash.I don't know if you believe in God or not but if you do then I encourage you to study in the bible a little,it will tell ya bout the end times and the one world order.Then it comes into place then there is the coming of our Lord Jesus then the seven year tribulation and in those seven years there will be a lot of bad thing's going on.You will be made to take the mark of the beast and whoever takes the mark then that person will not be able to enter the kingdom of God.Get in there start digging for the truth cause your future depends on it.You owe it to your family.I am a christian and being one of those means we are forgiven for what we do and most people think we should be perfect,we are human and we will fail thats why God sent his sone so we may be forgiven…..O'bama isn't of God because The Word tell's us that we know them(evil ones)by their fruit.(fruit meaning their works.)

  86. Doug Johnson

    Denise Hopkins-Cook I am really sorry to dismantle your thought on that;the only thing there is a report of the birth,which means the grandparents recorded the birth.Also there is no proof that the mother was never a patient of either hospitals.There is just no long form birth cert.Go and look this stuff up yourself.Quit listening to hearsay,thats whats wrong with this world now,"people listening to people."If everyone did their homework on each canidate then O'bama woud have never got in there.Look up his ss# you will find out that he really doesn't have one.He shares it with another name that no longer live and the real person that it belong to was from PA.He also has his citizenship in Canada.Doesn't have one from the US.They knew all this mother load of evidence in 09 but couldn't do anything about it cause the left wing side of this county has the media in their pocket.Go do your homework on this stuff and take no ones word on anything cause believe it our not your own family will lie to you.

  87. Doug Johnson

    Michele Jonason Wolfe Very good,your on the mark with all that you say!! I like you…..we seem to think a like.LOL J/J

  88. Tom Hansen

    Don't know anything about credibility of the Inquisitor, nor do I vouch one way or another concerning the claims of Arpaio. However, does he have the authority to investigate the eligibility of ANY candidate on the AZ election ballot? The answer is a simple yes. Each state, under federal statutes is given broad authority to enforce election laws, local and federal. If the AZ attorney general has reason to believe a candidate does not meet the state eligibility requirements, that person may be eliminated from state ballots. That would include Obama, Romney or Arpaio himself. As sheriff, his agency, as others within the state are mandated to investigate and provide evidence to the attorney general of their findings.

  89. Donna Bogue

    Vickie Anne *lol* the ONLY names I am calling is those that spout crap that they have not researched. As for the "caps" that is NOT yelling. It is STRESSING a word,, but then again, don't figure you would know that…

  90. Donna Bogue

    David A Deal READ the decisions….it cannot be just one parent….has to be BOTH….almost not worth my time to explain to you because you are blind. Have you never heard the phrase that the son is the same as the father? That they belong to the same country as their father? READ and research….it has to be both parents from the USA. As I said before, the Dems KNOW this…there ARE records in which they TALK about it…about both parents….You know, I used to be like you. believed whatever the Government said…I USED to think that the people I elected went to DC and did the people's work–What WE wanted….and it was STUPID on my part….but I woke up about 4 years ago….and what I see today….makes me afraid for the future of the USA. WHILE we were sleeping, the communist party took over the Dems…called themselves "progressives"….but in the last few years, they don't even HIDE the fact that they belong to the Communist party…We now have M u s l i m s in the White House, and people say that most are peaceful. IF they believe in the Qu'ran, there is NO SUCH thing as a "peaceful" M U S L I M. The book tells them to LIE about who they are, but they are to FORWARD the agenda of Sharia worldwide. IF they were did not believe in that, they were not "good" and would have the same fate as infidels.

  91. David A Deal

    Denise Hopkins-Cook – You are correct! That's why in my county we've NEVER elected anyone to be Sheriff that didn't have a good personality and was generally likeable. We've all dealt with those cops who have the attitude and a mean spirit, chip on their shoulder. Apparently the electorate in Joe's county are overwhelmingly a-holes like him!

  92. David A Deal

    Donna Bogue You ever heard the saying, "The sins of the father are not those of the son", or "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining". I have read and reread these things previously and still don't see an exact diffinitive statement about what a Natural born citizen IS.

  93. Huitz'Sapi Kúkuti

    It has to be some kind of vowel overload problem…maybe he needs a beat down by Vanna White.

  94. Thomas Hannan

    Tom Hansen Wow Tom I didn't realize that you were an attorney who understood rules of jurisdiction. Of course as an attorney who understood these constitutional issues I would figure that you understand that the Secretary of State of a given state would hold jurisdiction over the legitimacy of a candidate running for office in that state and as such the Attorney General of that state would serve as the investigative body over the legitimacy of a candidate for Federal office who stood for election in that state. But, not being a management consultant such as you holding a BA I am sure that I am wrong. Right TOM?

  95. Thomas Hannan

    Of course you questioned Snopes when I cited it…. I believe that you said that their research was suspect but offered no other proof. Is that the approach that your BA at St Johns in Collegelville afforded you? I mean,, you are right… what match is my BA from Minnesota, MS from CAL and PhD from Purdue to your BA from St Johns at Collegeville?

  96. Martha Carney

    David A Deal you are making that shit up. i dont know a single republican, including black republicans, who hate obama for anything remotely to do with his skin. they dont hate him at all. i do know republicans who are colorblind, including myself, who disagree with his policies, or who are constitutionalists. has nothing to do with race. where in the world is this republican bloc you refer to? i think you are making this up. what color are they. i happen to be native american and caucasian and have many black friends. I am aware of the history of black americans, where many of them believe light skin is preferable. you also see this with hispanics; just watch TV in Mexico to see whose skin color seems to get more jobs. hollywood in the us is controlled mostly by jewish descent americans, so i dont have a good explanation for why most actors seem to be jewish, other than that…i don't have anything against people by color or race, i am just remarking on observation. I think david must be talking about his own bigotry, since i am not observing this in republicans…

  97. Martha Carney

    Snopes has been proven to be unreliable, inconsistent and is a democrat tool. David, I don't swallow unresearched material, but it seems that you do…

  98. Dan Chandler

    That's the problem with Liberals. They have no respect for the constitution! What part of that do you not understand? Obaama is NOT my president and I hope I get to see the fool arrested and deported!

  99. Martha Carney

    David A Deal your points about birthers make no sense. you do not point out compliance with the law and both parents. you like to throw out insults and seem to have disregard for law, facts, history, the things most of us respect…

  100. Dan Chandler

    You can'.t make a Liberal puke understand anything except instructions on how to fill out an application for welfare.

  101. Dan Chandler

    One would think that someone with 49 years in this world could see Obama for what he really is. Or are you one of those creepy politician groupies?

  102. Milton Provost

    Randi Garske It is so sad that some of you are as stupid as this sheriff. *yrs of Bush who who almost started world 3, ronald reagan who did not know is left eye brow from his right, richard nixion, a thief in high office. oh and by the way it was a black man that took down nixion.under Mr. Obama, how many people have died. for no reason. Where are all the weapons of mass destruction that was too be. WATING….STILL WATING! OBAMA 2012!!!!!!!!

  103. Scott Young

    What a fucking colostomy bag… Can't these people just stop, or at least get arrested for treasonous activities?… Ooooo better yet, They can all be together having some Anti-Obama/America/woman/foreigner, Right wing Bible thumping, Lie to everyone for personal gain and societal …. there isnt even a word for what it is they have done to society… Its so many things all at once… I gotta stop here….

  104. Martha Carney

    Donna Bogue oh, coincidence, you mean like how the Tea Party is getting harrassed, I mean "audited'!

  105. Michele Jonason Wolfe

    Doug Johnson, thanks Doug. I like you, too! Especially the fact that you're not a follower like everyone else and have your own mind and will actually do research instead of what everyone else is saying.

  106. Christopher Alaimo

    Michele Jonason Wolfe – Prisoners DO and should have rights. I care about every HUMAN's rights. aaand i won't even try to argue with a teenager's idea of what a "real man" is. Please pay more attention in history class before you make ignorant, uninformed statements like that.

  107. Christopher Alaimo

    Donna Bogue – No one said anything about NDAA. You're a bit off-topic. but in response to your statement, I have read into what Mr. Arpaio does, and it's despicable. he's successfully set back human rights in his state about 200 years. Your name-calling and cute names for elected officials paint such a wonderful picture of your intellect, one where your ignorance and hatred are only overshadowed by your childish condescending attitude. go back and "study" some of what you said up there. you sound like a goddamned fifth-grader.

  108. Parker Shannon

    Ryan is no historian. Doesn't even remember John McCain was questioned about his eligibility and presented his original birth certificate. Dwight Eisenhower also was required to present his birth certificate to demonstrate his eligibility. That Ryan goes further and introduces race into the issue tells you all you need to know about Ryan.

  109. Denise Hopkins-Cook

    Michele Jonason Wolfe and Doug Johnson… You are both idiots. "I like you because you agree with me." LOL Why don't you get married and watch Fox for the rest of your lives together? Any fair minded, reasonable person knows that President Obama is an American. "They knew all this mother load of evidence in 09 but couldn't do anything about it cause the left wing side of this county has the media in their pocket." Real news organizations report real facts. Which is why your theory remains unproven because you have no credible facts. Just blah, blah, blah..Muslim brotherhood…Kenya…all Fox talking points. Seriously? Mother load of information. What a crock. What are they spiking the Kool-Aid with? Go get some mental help. Oh and enjoy the next four years….UNDER OBAMA!!

  110. Denise Hopkins-Cook

    In the United States, a person is considered to be born a citizen either due to place of birth within U.S. territorial jurisdiction (jus soli) or through descent from a U.S. citizen (jus sanguinis), or through some combination of those two elements.

  111. Doug Johnson

    Vickie Anne Just doing a little research on the people at hand,I see that you dabble in a little witchcraft,hell your page is full of it.I suggest that you need to get that stuff out of your life and then maybe the cloud will clear from you so that maybe then you could see the truth.Do you believe in God????

  112. Franklin Frazier

    This old bastard is crazy he just hates a black man is in the White House! Why don't you and the Nug just lock yourself in one of those empty cells and bore each other to death..

  113. Doug Johnson

    Martha Carney It doesn't do any good to reach these people,they are standing on their party or they are living a lie.

  114. Michael Fannin

    These people that vote republican doesn't understand . I posted a video of last nights speech . Keep it coming Mr. Frazier, I will keep reposting it……

    OBAMA 2012

  115. Annette Rf

    Actually, President Arthur also had an inquiry into his genuine place of birth because it was alleged he was born in the UK. Read your history. Also, Arizona is not part of the South (eyeroll).

  116. Ryan Carranza

    Michele Jonason Wolfe … What exactly has Obama lied about in terms of his birth location? Show me this proof that is just undeniable. You speak about our president as if you are somehow smarter than he is…

  117. Annette Rf

    I'm a genealogist, and I recognized Obama's COLB as fake from the moment I first saw it. For one thing, anyone born within a certain time frame (early 1960s and before) who was black would have been listed on the certificate as "Colored" or "Negro", NOT "African" as Obama's father was listed. That shows modern, PC influence, and a forgery. I have handled many DCs and BCs from that time frame for black ppl and they ALL listed the race as "Col.". or "Negro". Besides which, "African" is a nationality anyway, not a RACE. You can be African and be white.

  118. Annette Rf

    David A Deal I'm assuming you mean by "women's rights" the belief that a woman should be able to legally murder her unborn child by abortion. Guess what? Polls show that 51% of WOMEN want restrictions on abortion, myself included.

  119. Ryan Carranza

    Parker Shannon … Yes, judging by a few comments on a topic we disagree on tells you everything you need to know about me. It's ignorance such as that shows you have no regard for tolerance for those who disagree with you. How about you elaborate something for me here, you modern day Einstein… Why is it that Obama has been accused of lying about his birth certificate and yet it has been proven time and time again that he was, in fact, born in Hawaii? Why is this still an issue? I truly do not think people question John McCain's birth location or what he did for this country as a soldier… Why should Obama be questioned when he presented the EXACT SAME DOCUMENT? If you mean to tell me it's because there is just too many "fishy" things going on, then you are not seeing the world through a subjective mind… It's like you are purposely refusing to see the bigger picture. That bigger picture is that never in American history has any president been questioned like this about his birth location… EVER! Not like this. If you doubt that, then you are no history scholar yourself…

  120. Ryan Carranza

    Martha Carney … Obama has provided such documents though. So what are you talking about? People deny those documents, because they are fake? Based on what? Then should I question John McCain's birth certificate and start a campaign based on nothing at all? It would literally be the exact same thing… I guarantee that if Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson called into question Romney's birth certificate…there would be an uproar amongst the Republican party and the Tea Party movement. Try using a little logic if you ever decide to comment on anything I say, or else I will simply show how you are wrong every single time.

  121. Ryan Carranza

    Michele Jonason Wolfe … You obviously care what faith he has, because you mentioned it several times trying to justify your RIDICULOUS logic as to how Obama is a Muslim foreigner.

  122. Charlie Cowan

    Doug Johnson Show me the relevance of belief in the Christian God in this.

  123. Ryan Carranza

    Annette Rf … So do us all a favor and take your "skills" to the president and the Hawaii state and show them how it is fake. EXPOSE OBAMA if you know for certain he faked his certificate. Come on… Be a patriot and show the world what you see!! What are you waiting for?

  124. Ryan Carranza

    Annette Rf … Arizona is a state that happens to be in one of the Southern most parts of the US by terms of location. Am I wrong? I go to Arizona every year, unfortunately, and I see the same confederate flag waving people there as I do when I go to Florida or Alabama. The only difference is that there happens to be more mountains and less grass in Arizona. (Shaking my damn head)

  125. Vickie Anne

    Donna Bogue – caps = yelling and name calling = name calling even when you think someone is "spouting crap…" Do you need your prescriptions refilled??

  126. Vickie Anne

    Doug Johnson – You are more than welcome to "research" me or whomever you like. Witchcraft?? lolol… believe what you like, my personal views are mine to share when and with whom I choose. I will tell you this… I believe that every person should be treated with dignity and respect… I do not ask their religious beliefs, their gender, their sexual orientation, their culture or ethnic background, nor do I question their educational level or their financial resources. When another human being is in need… I do whatever is in my power to help them. That will be my legacy… that will be the measure by which I shall be judged…

  127. Vickie Anne

    Dan Chandler – I am neither creepy nor a groupy, but apparently someone on this thread thinks I am a witch….. LMAO!!

  128. Steve Walker

    Joe says he does these things "…regardless of the repercussions, the politics and the media.” Those of us who have lived here and watched him torture and humiliate people, as well as help inmates learn how to live once released, seen the "glory hound" moments he loves to force on the citizens, and listened to his rationalizations of urban control vehicle assaults on people wanted for traffic tickets while burning their house down and killing their dog, know completely that Joe doesn't do these things despite "the repercussions, the politics and the medi." He does them BECAUSE of those things. Starting a birther movement after the Rich Guys who could afford to hire any investigators (and who did exactly that) to find any speck of information in any corner on Earth, already gave up this propaganda attack that was debunked as BS long ago (repeatedly) so he figured he should pick up the flag and run with it no matter how tainted, destroyed, ripped to shreds, and transparent it had become, as if examining factual evidence wasn't what he does for a living. Hiring Tea Bagger Crack Pots to pose as his "posse" is just one more obvious attempt at his political aspirations and as we all know, this will be followed, once the firestorm dies down for a few minutes, by one more misguided attempt to run for some political office under the flag of the "REPUBLIC" form of government during a time when Democracy is hurting those people.

  129. Doug Johnson

    Denise Hopkins-Cook So the name calling starts,let's me know where you stand on all issues.I get my news on the net outlets and not just one,hell I even peek at where you and the rest of the left gets theirs.You people go a head and bury your heads in the sand and ignore the facts.My bet that you probably dabble in a little witchcraft yourself such as reading horoscopes,contacting a few psychics.Its sad to see God's people so blinded in this day and time.No we can't get married cause I am married to a wonderful lady.Michele Jonason Wolfe is my bran new best friend on here!!lolShe speaks with truth and understanding not like most on here.When the truth is spoken to her she has the God given to know the truth over a lie.You see,God puts those quality's in His people.The Good Book tells us that we will know them by their fruits.So you go a head and call your little names and that only show us how mature you really are!!!

  130. Steve Walker

    Michele Jonason Wolfe You have a right to your own opinion but you can't have your own reality. Anyone who believes that, first of all, a serious threat to our government is an immigrant in our government political offices needs to reread the history of the United States. But, even with that aside, the fact that every rich Johnny Come Lately GOP candidate who has tried this tactic has already been shown to be an idiot and caused them to run away in shame for trying it, despite the fact that someone with the resources of "The Donald" conceded it was merely a hoax and a political ploy, will have to answer as to why their past candidate, John McCain was running for the same office while being born in the Panama Canal Zone previous to it actually being a territory. This whole birther thing was invented by Karl Rove to deflect from questions about McCain's foreign birth and YOU ALREADY LOST THAT ELECTION, so go lay down and lick your wounds, QUIETLY you whiny ill informed tea bagger. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpE6ljPjSAk

  131. Doug Johnson

    O'bama is a muslim,he confessed it with his own words,He has confessed a lot of these issues by his words,not ours.The american people are so blinded to the fact that they do not believe that a country big as ours a president could pull off this lie of lies.Sounds like a scary movie,but that's how he's getting away with a lot of his agenda. He has a task and that's to bring this nation down on its knee's so he can bring in the new world order.Everything we have been telling you are not lies but all come from the mouth of your hero,O'bama!!! As a matter of the facts this new world order has been coming since the past 40+ yrs.Like we have said,please "do your homework".

  132. Steve Walker

    Ryan Carranza When you are talking about the Old South that was part of the Civil War, Arizona was a territory then. The Territory of Arizona was a territory claimed by the Confederate States of America during the American Civil War, between 1861 and 1865. It consisted of the portion of the New Mexico Territory south of the 34th parallel north including parts of the modern states of New Mexico and Arizona. Its capital was Mesilla along the southern border. The Confederate territory overlapped the Arizona Territory created by the Union government in 1863, but the physical geography differed in that the Confederate Arizona Territory was approximately the southern half of the pre-existing New Mexico Territory, while the Union Arizona Territory was approximately the western half of what had been New Mexico Territory.

  133. Doug Johnson

    Vickie Anne Ok,I take it that you do not believe in God.That's ok everyone for them self.My belief tells me to reach out to whom ever and tell them the Love that God has for them and to tell them about his Son and what He's done for you,to save us from all sin. Charlie if you would like you can goooo allll the way to the top of the page and read all,I bring whatever I want into any conversation because everyone else is.When we make a truthful point and it make someone mad then they start their name calling.So I have been called names,insulted and for what reason? The reason that the truth is spoken and all the demons on earth can't handle,so the spirits get upset and they start working all around the situation bringing in thoughts of name calling for one.The ugly little things have been working all around us since we we're born.I will quit cause I know its getting a little deep for ya!! The day is coming real soon that you will say that I wish I have searched for the one true God!! You will say that I wished I didn't wast my time on false gods such as hobbies,cars,trucks,and false religions.

  134. Denise Hopkins-Cook

    Doug Johnson why am I not surprised that you are now assuming that you know what MY religion is? You just proved my point. THANK YOU!!

  135. Steve Walker

    Vickie Anne Yes, but in the state of Arizona anyone who is poor is treated as a guilty person. The privatized prison advocates are already trying to stoke up the GOP to vote to fill them with anyone who can't find a job so they can employ them in prison industries. That is why job creation and hiring is still at a low here compared to many places in the nation. As long as our senators and house reps remain mostly GOP that is the way our state will remain.

  136. Vickie Anne

    Doug Johnson – I never said whether or not I believed in God, funny that you should assume that I do not, simply because I do not believe in ideals that are similar to yours. I have no need to boast my beliefs, my heart knows its truth. For those of you who feel it necessary to toss out scripture to enlighten all of us whom you label "heathens," or in my case "witches" … try Matthew 6:6… Pray in private…..

  137. Vickie Anne

    Steve Walker – The indigent in this country are far more likely to be sentenced to prison terms than are middle or upper class persons who commit similar crimes. Independent emiprical research has consistently indicated this fact. The reasons for this vary, but it is a fact nonetheless. The majority of urban poor belong to minority groups, thus offering a clear explanation as to the disproportionate numbers of minorities within the criminal justice system as compared to general population numbers.

  138. Doug Johnson

    Steve Walker Oh wow!! But who is this Charlotte?? As for you, you have your own way of name calling.You people on the left never give up.For eight years all you have done is cry this and that and you had your own thing going about George W.The problem with you is too many books,it has deaden you spiritual view.You couldn't see the end if your man O'bama called and told you that he was the devil.Sad for people like you!!!

  139. Ryan Carranza

    Doug Johnson … Can you please provide sources to your claims. I don't see how you can just say these things as facts and proceed to not provide any sort of source. Shows nothing more than a lack of credibility on your part.

  140. Michele Jonason Wolfe

    Denise Hopkins-Cook, nothing like calling the kettle *Black*. Isn't that what YOU'VE been doing? Being *mean*? Over some ridiculous politician in office that could care less about any ONE of us. How pathetic is THAT?

  141. Michele Jonason Wolfe

    Vickie Anne I'm not that one that has the PROBLEM with it. He is doing nothing that is against the law. The one's in that jail HAVE!

  142. Michele Jonason Wolfe

    Vickie Anne I'm not that one that has the PROBLEM with it. He is doing nothing that is against the law. The one's in that jail HAVE!

  143. Ryan Carranza

    Doug Johnson … What in the hell are you even talking about at this point? The problem with those of us that read books is that those books are deleting our spiritual view? Am I reading that right?

  144. Donna Bogue

    Denise Hopkins-Cook The ONLY way the next 4 years will be "under Obama" is if we don't get the voter ID to stop all the dead people and cartoons for voting for him!

  145. Doug Johnson

    Ryan Carranza Ryan,I know I am wasting my time but here goes;You have a computer I see or you wouldn't be on here.Go to google and what ever pop's in your mind on the issue at hand type it in.It will then take you to several places on the subject.When viewing look for the ones that has wikipedia in it or around it and start reading for God sake.I can throw things your way but you still wouldn't believe me.That's how I started out reading one thing at a time.Yes there is some truth in the birther's.After you start finding the truth then go to "The Truth.Org,listen to a few thing on the issues to the right hand side and take some of the segments little at a time and then you will be able to discern what the truth is and not.I cannot do this for you,you will have to do it on your own and for God's sake quit believing what people say.

  146. Donna Bogue

    Doug Johnson People don't want to believe that he was serious when he said "When the winds turn against them, I will stand with the Muslims"….Those that say he isn't are willfully ignorant and when the SHTF, I won't be saying "I told you so" but I also won't help them in any way. Fortunately, People with that belief will be the FIRST to starve because they won't be able to survive and the trashcans they will be eating out of will not last long. *l*

  147. Ryan Carranza

    Donna Bogue … Why don't you do all of us a favor and expose Obama for who you really think he is. Stop him from doing allllll of these horrible things you think he will do if re-elected. Infiltrate the media, send letters and emails to every congressman/woman and get out there and protest! Show us all the proof! Do that, instead of trying to "change the world" on a comment board.

  148. Michele Jonason Wolfe

    Dan Chandler, who is a *liberal puke* since you are resorting to name-calling? Why is it with people like you, you have to give everyone a TITLE that suits you so that you can justify your being rude? I do NOT believe in titles myself. I am not into being REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT, LIBERAL, nothing. I just have my own thoughts and do not NEED a title to voice those beliefs. I am a person, just like you, just like anyone else on here, whether you like or agree or not with what I have to say, or anyone else for that matter. We are all PEOPLE! Having our OWN minds (without having to follow what the rest of the world tells us that we have to say) makes us human. Following shows you really don't have your own beliefs, just what the rest of the world thinks you should think, otherwise you are called *crazy*, a *terrorist*, etc. That's just pathetic! That's what the government wants and people like you are falling for it. Name-calling shows your ignorance and just what kind of person you truly are…which doesn't seem like a very good one. Oh, and how does your title *Liberal* and being on welfare go together? That's profiling and it's a pretty bad judgement on your part…it means you don't know what else to say.

  149. Donna Bogue

    Ryan Carranza Oh, but you are wrong. McCain's birth WAS questioned …because he was born in Panama. and the Dems even created legislature that said he was a "Natural born citizen" and thus eligible to run as POTUS. Funny thing, Obama signed that …YOU should look it up and READ it….because it STATES a Citizen born to two Citizens of the USA. What you fail to understand is that it does not matter if Ovomit was born in a manger, His father was a British subject thus making Ovomit ineligible to be POTUS.

  150. Donna Bogue

    Vickie Anne Nope, I NEED (not yelling) people like you to stop being ignorant and wake up to what is happening in America before it is too late…*lol* Hope your ears hurt from my "yelling" You see, IF I could use HTML, I could bold the words I want to stress without using the caps, but in order for me to be yelling, I WOULD HAVE TO WRITE THE WHOLE DAMN SENTENCE IN CAPS LIKE THIS ONE! You don't get out much do ya?

  151. Donna Bogue

    Vickie Anne Nope, I NEED (not yelling) people like you to stop being ignorant and wake up to what is happening in America before it is too late…*lol* Hope your ears hurt from my "yelling" You see, IF I could use HTML, I could bold the words I want to stress without using the caps, but in order for me to be yelling, I WOULD HAVE TO WRITE THE WHOLE DAMN SENTENCE IN CAPS LIKE THIS ONE! You don't get out much do ya?

  152. Donna Bogue

    Michele Jonason Wolfe *lol* Watch it hon, Vickie has no intelligent or factual comments to support her beliefs, so next she will divert and say you are yelling too….

  153. Michele Jonason Wolfe

    Ryan Carranza don't you have school today?

  154. Ryan Carranza

    Donna Bogue … How clever you are with "Ovomit". Look, did the media and public demand a birth certificate for John McCain like they did for Obama? No… Not even close. You are living in this bubble. Not everything is conspiracy theory. Relax…

  155. Anonymous

    Ouch! We ALL know The Hope thing won't work!

  156. Ryan Carranza

    Michele Jonason Wolfe … Graduated, darling. Do you have anything to back up your claims today? I'll assume no, considering you are trying to come after me in such a pathetic way.

  157. Michele Jonason Wolfe

    Vickie Anne , capitalizing certain words is NOT yelling…it is simply STRESSING a word or point. Didn't you ever learn this back in school??

  158. Doug Johnson

    I know most of you people on here are good God fearing people, but the world and the things in it has blinded you.You young people go to collage and there is where your getting brain washed.exp.van jones etc.Some of you tell me to prove to you this and that but if your not willing to search like some of us have then you have to live the lie.

  159. Donna Bogue

    Denise Hopkins-Cook *sigh* People that have the facts have TRIED to take it to court. Actually, even before he was POTUS, The Courts told them that they had to "wait until after the Election" THEN after the election, when they filed again, they were told "He is POTUS, you can't file now". There have been no less than TWO judges that have admitted (Ga and NH) that the certificate is a fake, but they said that it could not be used as evidence because Obama did not present it. People have tried before the Supreme Court to have hearings and been denied over and over again. PLEASE just start searching and you WILL find SO MUCH out….and ask yourself, WHY is MSM keeping this quiet? It is because they have been paid off…Even FOX is suppressing it. The Liberals tried making so called "Birthers" into a joke or nuts so people would discount what they said, but this is NO JOKE and they are NOT NUTS. As I have said before, I don't care WHERE he was born…The fact that his father was a British citizen makes him ineligible according to our Constitution. research it…..learn…..

  160. Donna Bogue

    Steve Walker I love it when someone tries to make others believe they are so dag gone smart…The "Birther" thing was STARTED BY HILARY CLINTON'S camp…they KNEW… go look it up…

  161. Anonymous

    Ryan, do a little research – President Chester A. Arthur, Christopher Schürmann, Charles Evans Hughes, Barry Goldwater, Lowell Weicker, Róger Calero,and John McCain have all had their eligibility questioned. Obama can't try to own this one either!

  162. Doug Johnson

    Ryan Carranza No Ryan,I was making a point to that guy not you.Some people,that's all they do is read and all they live on is what they read,they will let the dictionary and the books do their talking for themselves.There is a thin line between normal and radical.Nothing against you,you keep reading your spiritual books because that's what will keep you normal.You have to feed Gods Spirit that lives in you.

  163. Donna Bogue

    Ryan Carranza Annette is not doing anything because SEVERAL have TRIED and get stonewalled… I really feel sorry for you..but not sorry enough to help you when the SHTF…. Live your life in ignorance as you wish, but it won't be for much longer, by the time you finally wake up, it will be too late for you and those like you…..too bad for you..

  164. Ryan Carranza

    Donna Bogue … Thanks! I'll take not having to deal with you with pleasure.

  165. Donna Bogue

    READ it and LEARN I have NO intention of doing people's homework for them, but for those of you that believe Obama is not a FRAUD, instead of calling names, how about trying to understand why people DO say that he is a fraud. Those that just want to skip this link and continue spouting about something they have no idea about, I don't have time for you. STUDY THIS PLEASE!

    http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html

  166. Donna Bogue

    READ it and LEARN I have NO intention of doing people's homework for them, but for those of you that believe Obama is not a FRAUD, instead of calling names, how about trying to understand why people DO say that he is a fraud. Those that just want to skip this link and continue spouting about something they have no idea about, I don't have time for you. STUDY THIS PLEASE!

    http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html

  167. Ryan Carranza

    wendyandherb … Out of all of those names listed… Have any of those ever been questioned 4 years into their first session in the Oval Office? Why is that people still go after this issue like Obama has never presented his birth certificate? He literally went on television to produce it to the world. That's not enough??

  168. Ryan Carranza

    wendyandherb … Out of all of those names listed… Have any of those ever been questioned 4 years into their first session in the Oval Office? Why is that people still go after this issue like Obama has never presented his birth certificate? He literally went on television to produce it to the world. That's not enough??

  169. Ryan Carranza

    Donna Bogue .. Also, Annette and yourself should just quit because others have failed? Funny, you will testify your dedication on a comment boards, but when push comes to shove and you actually could be doing something to support your cause you don't even give it a shot just because others have failed? Yeah, I'll totally take the things you say with a grain of salt… You talk a big game.

  170. Ryan Carranza

    Donna Bogue .. Also, Annette and yourself should just quit because others have failed? Funny, you will testify your dedication on a comment boards, but when push comes to shove and you actually could be doing something to support your cause you don't even give it a shot just because others have failed? Yeah, I'll totally take the things you say with a grain of salt… You talk a big game.

  171. Ryan Carranza

    wendyandherb …It's like you and the others who seem to think he was born elsewhere, seem to purposely ignore the big picture! He provided the certificate! He showed it to the world so he could shut people up about it already. Why drag this on? What's the purpose?

  172. Tom Hansen

    I stand humbled by the avalanche of letters behind your name. As you were studying your way through the alphabet getting degrees in child psychology, I apparently wasted my time with a MS in criminal justice and 26 yrs as a federal law enforcement officer investigating crimes for the US DOJ. At times this included the AZ State AG office. Unfortunately for your theory, their SIS only provides investigative support in complex matters which does not routinely include election fraud. That would be the jurisdiction of the SO, PD or a JTF. My intent was not to bruise your academic ego, but when one has had a case go to the US Supreme Court and establish a legal precedence, facts become important and you like to see folks appropriately informed. You know, I like the Tom Hannan from HS much better. If that person shows up at the next reunion, I'll buy him a beer. The present day version is a bit pompous and might choke on a fine lager. When your ready for that beer, let me know. I may even bring along some of our Benilde classmates who also attended St. John's. I'm sure they'd love to see you. Until then, adios mi amigo.

  173. Donna Bogue

    Ryan Carranza Your stupidity is only outweighed by your mouth. Sorry, I will not waste my time with you. You do not have an open mind and are so set on the belief that you can't be wrong. Like I said before, I USED to believe that those in DC had Americans best interests at heart…They haven't for a couple of decades. I am also smart enough to know that ONE PERSON cannot stop what is happening…I DO have one question….I am sure even YOU heard Obama say that with his "plan, the cost of electricity will necessarily skyrocket"… didn't that give you pause? Did the fact that he buddies with Bill Ayers and Van Jones not bother you? Did the fact that he belonged to Jeremiah Wright's radical church not bother you? How about the fact that he HAS been caught in so many lies not bother you? IF you can say no to those questions…it tells me all I need to know..but think on this a bit….Once his agenda has been reached, YOU and yours are no longer useful to them anymore. IF you think for one minute they will help you, think again…You and your ilk will then just be baggage that the Elites no longer need…

  174. Doug Johnson

    Ryan Carranza Ryan,Ryan,Ryan.All he showed was a fake,Funny that it took him,what? couple of years to produce it.It was a fake.Damn it look it up!!

  175. Christopher Alaimo

    I especially like how my comments get deleted from my own post.. just goes to show some people just can't handle being WRONG.

  176. Donna Bogue

    Ryan Carranza IT was questioned BEFORE he was POTUS–WHY can't you get that through your head?

  177. Donna Bogue

    Ryan Carranza I feel sorry for you…..The effort to remove the natural-born citizen requirement from the U.S. Constitution actually began in 1975 – when Democrat House Rep. Jonathon B. Bingham, [NY-22] introduced a constitutional amendment under H.J.R. 33: which called for the outright removal of the natural-born requirement for president found in Article II of the U.S. Constitution – “Provides that a citizen of the United States otherwise eligible to hold the Office of President shall not be ineligible because such citizen is not a natural born citizen.”

    Bingham’s first attempt failed and he resurrected H.J.R. 33: in 1977 under H.J.R. 38:, again failing to gain support from members of congress. Bingham was a Yale Law grad and member of the secret society Skull and Bones, later a lecturer at Columbia Law and thick as thieves with the United Nations via his membership in the Council on Foreign Relations.

    Bingham’s work lay dormant for twenty-six years when it was resurrected again in 2003 as Democrat members of Congress made no less than eight (8) attempts in twenty-two (22) months, to either eliminate the natural-born requirement, or redefine natural-born to accommodate Barack Hussein Obama II in advance of his rise to power. The evidence is right in the congressional record…

    1. On June 11, 2003 Democrat House member Vic Snyder [AR-2] introduced H.J.R 59: in the 108th Congress – “Constitutional Amendment – Makes a person who has been a citizen of the United States for at least 35 years and who has been a resident within the United States for at least 14 years eligible to hold the office of President or Vice President.” – Co-Sponsors: Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14]; Rep Delahunt, William D. [MA-10]; Rep Frank, Barney [MA-4]; Rep Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49]; Rep LaHood, Ray [IL-18]; Rep Shays, Christopher [CT-4].

    2. On September 3, 2003, Rep. John Conyers [MI] introduced H.J.R. 67: – “Constitutional Amendment – Makes a person who has been a citizen of the United States for at least 20 years eligible to hold the office of President.” – Co-Sponsor Rep Sherman, Brad [CA-27]

    3. On February 25, 2004, Republican Senator Don Nickles [OK] attempted to counter the growing Democrat onslaught aimed at removing the natural-born citizen requirement for president in S.2128: – “Natural Born Citizen Act – Defines the constitutional term “natural born citizen,” to establish eligibility for the Office of President” – also getting the definition of natural born citizen wrong. – Co-sponsors Sen Inhofe, James M. [OK]; Sen Landrieu, Mary L. [LA]

    4. On September 15, 2004 – as Barack Obama was about to be introduced as the new messiah of the Democrat Party at the DNC convention, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher [CA-46] introduced H.J.R. 104: – “Constitutional Amendment – “Makes eligible for the Office of the President non-native born persons who have held U.S. citizenship for at least 20 years and who are otherwise eligible to hold such Office.” – No co-sponsors.

    5. Again on January 4, 2005, Rep John Conyers [MI] introduced H.J.R. 2: to the 109th Congress – “Constitutional Amendment – Makes a person who has been a citizen of the United States for at least 20 years eligible to hold the Office of President.” – Co-Sponsor Rep Sherman, Brad [CA-27]

    6. Rep Dana Rohrabacher [CA-46] tries again on February 1, 2005 in H.J.R. 15: – “Constitutional Amendment – Makes eligible for the Office of the President non-native born persons who have held U.S. citizenship for at least 20 years and who are otherwise eligible to hold such Office.” – No Co-Sponsor

    7. On April 14, 2005, Rep Vic Snyder [AR-2] tries yet again with H.J.R. 42: – “Constitutional Amendment – Makes a person who has been a citizen of the United States for at least 35 years and who has been a resident within the United States for at least 14 years eligible to hold the office of President or Vice President.” – Co-Sponsor Rep Shays, Christopher [CT-4]

    8. All of these efforts failing in committee and the 2008 presidential election looming with an unconstitutional candidate leading the DNC ticket, Democrat Senator Claire McCaskill, [MO] tries to attach the alteration to a military bill in S.2678: on February 28, 2008 – “Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act – Declares that the term “natural born Citizen” in article II, section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution, dealing with the criteria for election to President of the United States, includes any person born to any U.S. citizen while serving in the active or reserve components of the U.S. armed forces.” – Co-Sponsors DNC Presidential candidate Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham [NY]; DNC Presidential candidate Sen Obama, Barack [IL]; Sen Menendez, Robert [NJ]; Sen Coburn, Tom [OK] – (This was the first effort to also assure that GOP Presidential candidate Sen. John McCain [AZ] would be cleared to run against the DNC primary victor.)

    From June 11, 2003 to February 28, 2008, there had been eight (8) different congressional attempts to alter Article II – Section I – Clause V – natural born citizen requirements for president in the U.S. Constitution, all of them failing in committee — All of it taking placing during Barack Obama’s rise to political power and preceding the November 2008 presidential election.

  178. Donna Bogue

    In politics, there are no coincidences… not of this magnitude.

    Finally on April 10, 2008, unable to alter or remove the natural born citizen requirement to clear the way for Barack Obama, the U.S. Senate acts to shift focus before the election, introducing and passing S.R.511: – declaring Sen. John McCain a “natural born citizen” eligible to run for and hold the office of president. There was never any honest doubt about McCain, the son of a U.S. Navy Commander. The Sponsor of the resolution is Democrat Senator Claire McCaskill, [MO]

    S.R.511 States that John Sidney McCain, III, is a “natural born Citizen” under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States. S.R511 passed by a 99-0 unanimous consent of the Senate, with only John McCain not voting. The basis was – “Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens;” – a condition not met by Barack Hussein Obama II. – Co-Sponsors DNC Presidential candidate Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham [NY]; DNC Presidential candidate Sen Obama, Barack [IL]; Sen Leahy, Patrick J. [VT]; Sen Webb, Jim [VA]; Sen Coburn, Tom [OK] (They had made certain that John McCain would run against Barack Obama)

    However, in the McCain resolution is also this language – “Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a `natural born Citizen’ of the United States; – Whereas the term `natural born Citizen’, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;”

    The U.S. Constitution is not a dictionary. The definition of “is” is not in the constitution either. Yet this is the text that would later be issued in Congressional Research Service talking points memos distributed to members of congress, to protect an individual that all members of congress know and understand to be an “unconstitutional” resident of the people’s White House – Barack Hussein Obama II.

    Once again, as the political left was unable to alter the U.S. Constitution by way of legitimate constitutional process, they resorted to altering the constitution via precedent setting, in short, knowingly electing and getting away with seating an unconstitutional president in order to alter Article II requirements for the office via breaking those constitutional requirements.

    The press would not ask any questions and the American people were already too ill-informed of their constitution to know or too distracted by daily life to care. The press would provide the cover, swearing to the lies of an unconstitutional administration put in power by criminal actors focused only on their lofty political agenda of forever altering the American form of government.

    The people would be caught up in a steady diet of daily assaults on their individual freedom and liberty and overlook the most obvious constitutional crisis in American history, the seating of an unconstitutional and anti-American president.

  179. Donna Bogue

    wendyandherb and Arthur was actually proven to not qualify….but he lied and the lies were not found out until years later…after his death. HE was the ONLY (Until Ovomit) POTUS that held that position that was NOT eligible…

  180. Ryan Carranza

    Donna Bogue … Did I ever doubt that? No, but he has proven time and time again that he is a citizen. You can go on and on with me, but the fact of the matter is this… He won the election, he could win the next one and if he does… What will you do? Honestly, what is your plan? We could sit here for days and go back and forth… But what will happen if he wins again and how will you be somehow one step ahead than everyone else? What makes you and those who think like you so well prepared?

  181. Donna Bogue

    Ryan Carranza Yup, he won…because MICKY MOUSE, Olive Oil and DUMBO voted for him–OH, Wait..YOUR name must be on there with them! Forget it, you are not worth the time to show the truth to, you are too far gone and as I said before….the day you see the light it will be too late for you and yours…Hope you believe in God…*s* ~gone~

  182. Christopher Alaimo

    Doug Johnson – you obviously have nothing intelligent to add to this. go preach somewhere else.

  183. Donna Bogue

    Ryan Carranza THAT, you will never know….so don't bother asking for help if he wins again..*l*

  184. Michele Jonason Wolfe

    Christopher Alaimo, and YOU DO?!

  185. Doug Johnson

    Donna Bogue Very well spoken!!Yes just found out a week ago that Fox news and Gleen Beck was paid to qiut the Glenn Beck show because of all the truth that was coming out.The left had to put a stop to it.Also at the same time Glenn and Bill O'rally had this thing going about spreading the truth and look at them now.Something powerful stopped them.hummmm wonder who did that?????This news hasn't even came out yet because they we're told to wait until……..

  186. Christopher Alaimo

    Michele Jonason Wolfe – i haven't heard anything from you that would even come close. seriously, go back and read your own posts. you are only here to argue, you've made no valid points, and you're attacking everyone personally that disagrees with you. You will now be ignored.

  187. Ryan Carranza

    Donna Bogue … I didn't vote for him as I stated earlier, but sure!! I'm not asking for "help" either. I am seriously curious as to how you think you are so far ahead of the game. I love how you are trying to keep it a secret as if you have re-invented the wheel or something. Go on to your bunker already… I'll be just fine up here without crazies like you.

  188. Annette Rf

    Ryan Carranza I think one major reason, apart from the fact that there has been a lot of questions about Obama's documentation, is the fact that he has spent his most formative yrs living OUTSIDE the USA, and doesn't really understand how true Americans think. He can't relate to us, and for that and his documentation reasons, has no business ruling us.

  189. Ryan Carranza

    Annette Rf … He went to college at Harvard. He has lived his entire adult life in this country basically… What is wrong with his documentation? I still have not got a definitive answer on this. What exactly is the issue with his birth certificate that he has displayed?

  190. Vickie Anne

    Doug Johnson – It speaks much more for you than it does for me that you assume I do not believe in God based solely on the fact that we differ ideologically. I have not called you names, nor have I insulted you… but you have visited my FB page and have branded me a witch and inferred that I do not believe in God… interesting. Personally, I enjoy Matthew 6:6 – Pray in private… I have no need or desire to discuss my theology with others, it is deeply personal and will remain so.

  191. Vickie Anne

    Steve Walker – Independent empirical research is very consistent in concluding that the indigent suffer inequalities within the criminal justice system. Since the majority of urban poor are also members of minority groups, it is no great suprise that these groups are over-represented within our prisons and jails. Unfortunately, it will remain this way until the poor are guaranteed quality representation.

  192. Vickie Anne

    Michele Jonason Wolfe – Jail is not the same thing as prison. Many people in jail have not been convicted of anything. They are there awaiting trial or because they cannot afford bail or bond. In America a person is still innocent until proven guilty.

  193. Vickie Anne

    Donna Bogue – Yes, I know, Sweety. The Constitution and Bill of Rights are just a "diversion"… unless they suit your needs of course. Bless your little heart, did you get that script refilled yet??

  194. Daniel Cooper

    Sheriff Joe
    Next time you will just need to come right out and accuse Obama for fraud. So when he sues you for deformation. He will need to prove in a court of law that your accusations are false. But if he cannot prove that your accusations are false he probably will not sue you. By just saying that a fraud had been committed and being afraid too state that the president committed fraud won’t cut anymore. You need to stand by your guns, and if you know that what you are saying is true then step up and say it. It needs to be done before the next elections to save Americans any further harm. Video record yourself filing the law suite against Obama so that the world can see that if the judges bury it we will have proof you filed it.
    Let the trial be televised.

  195. John Marker

    carranza, all of the previous candidates for president have shown authentic birth certificates. Obama is the only one to hide his, and then show up with a pathetic forgery.

  196. John Marker

    carranza, all of the previous candidates for president have shown authentic birth certificates. Obama is the only one to hide his, and then show up with a pathetic forgery.

  197. Ralph Harris

    Allen Bates The proof is there….you just do not want to see it. Hopefully it will be a moot question come November.

    The facts are just in your way, and you will say, so what if he was, it does not matter. But consider this….if he has lied to acquire this position, it brings everything he has done in to question. Such as saddling this country with so much debt, the debt is more dangerous than any army to our freedoms. Was it stupidity on his part……or is this something else he is lying about…..If this is true, and there is reason to think it is, it calls everything that has happened in Government over the last three years into question….and that is what you are trying to avoid…

  198. Ralph Harris

    Indiana, is not part of the south…could it be Ryan Carranza that the fact that the other Presidents never had a problem coming up with a birth certificate….where this guy spent 2 million dollars trying to avoid it, the produced one that is dubious at best….hmmmm

  199. Ralph Harris

    He produced a electronically created document, created in Adobe Illustrator. And it is so easy to show that it is a fraud that I wonder if it was done purposely to keep the thing going, to distract people from how bad the economy is, and how much worse it is going to get with this huge inflation of the money supply over the last 36 months…but I digress….

    If you have ever worked with any graphics software, it is very easy to prove this is not a scan of a document…but you will never admit that…lol.

  200. Christy Miranda

    Why don't you all give up on this. None of us really know where he was born. What he released was fake, proven by plenty of people. That's an easy and quick search. Obombya should not be president mainly because of the NDAA, the war, the drones, the extension of the Patriot my ass act, his love for Monsanto, his lobe for big Pharma, the war that he just secretly signed on for until 2024, the fact that he has no proof that he killed Osama Bin Laden, as the Pentagon said there is no evidence of this, I can go on and on. Maybe if Obombya had morals plain and simple, he would stop allowing civilians to be bombed everyday. He's scum of the Earth. If you deny that, you're either ignorant or a blind idiot. Guantanamo is open, you can't protest near politicians or secret service, omg, I'm still going on. You really can keep listing his bullshit. He is garbage.

  201. Christy Miranda

    Right, I forgot about how he threatened to veto the NDAA, signed it anyway, then threatened to veto CISPA. WE'LL SEE, FUCKFACE.

  202. Donna Bogue

    Vickie Anne sorry…I am not the one on drugs…you REALLY shouldn't have used so many because your brain is totally fried….too bad for you…

  203. Donna Bogue

    Ryan Carranza THAT is because people NEED to know what is going on—ONE cannot take them on, but MILLIONS can…..take your salt….you deserve what you get….

  204. Ryan Carranza

    Ralph Harris … How do you post random numbers without sources to back up your claims? Why should me or anyone believe you just because you say something?

  205. Ryan Carranza

    John Marker … Obama has too… So what's your point? If you mean to tell me that he hasn't, then you are wrong.

  206. Ryan Carranza

    Donna Bogue Read it, this is coming from a Alex Jones site, who happens to be a whack-job for every conspiracy theorist out there. So I don't believe this for one second. I'll be fine with my college education, nice lifestyle, family and friends. You can go on trying to start a revolution…

  207. Ryan Carranza

    Donna Bogue … You say I am not worth the time, but all you do is respond to me. Looks like I am either worth the time, or you are just another stubborn conspiracy theorist who wants everyone to agree with you.

  208. Ryan Carranza

    Donna Bogue … You are fighting a losing battle and have no way of winning. You know that, but still talk about how Obama is not eligible as if you are actually doing something about it. Once again, you talk a big game, but you have no proof. You provided a Alex Jones site that proves literally nothing

  209. Donna Bogue

    Ryan Carranza *lol* Shut up….I HAVE posted the reason he is not eligible, but you are too damn blind or STUPID to go LOOK….If you would get your head out of your ass and open your eyes you would learn, but you are the typical liberal, thinks they are smarter than everyone else and everyone else's comments are wrong….Whatever, when you grow up, you will see…..

  210. Donna Bogue

    Ryan Carranza Because I FELT like it….THOUGHT you might be willing to open your eyes, but I can see that you are in the minority here. You disagree with everyone….Whatever….you are a loser…

  211. John Marker

    Ryan Carranza you dont even know what a 1961 birth certificate looks like, and neither does the idiot who forged obama's. First off, They did not have green computer paper then. Second, Obama's father's race was not african, it was negro. Every REAL birth certificate of a black kid up until 1980 showed the parent's race as negro. African is not even a race, it is a nationality.

  212. Mary Krosman

    I have read alot of these stupid coments about Joe arpaio, and I tell you what, You don't seem to get it in your heads, that if obama gets another 4 years, this country is going down the tubes in a fast and furiuos way. I commend what Joe is doing and give him credit. Obama paid 2 million bucks to keep his birth information quiet, now why would that be??? Cause he is ILLEGAL IN EVERY WAY.

  213. Ron Smith

    "I hope I get to see the fool arrested and deported!"___ Wow that's Rude! I don't mind if they arrest Arpaio, but they don't need to deport him. Arizona should keep him. They deserve him. And just what makes you an expert on the Constitution?

  214. Ron Smith

    "I hope I get to see the fool arrested and deported!"___ Wow that's Rude! I don't mind if they arrest Arpaio, but they don't need to deport him. Arizona should keep him. They deserve him. And just what makes you an expert on the Constitution?

  215. Anonymous

    This fat, racist, old, POS should be fired. "Toughest sheriff in the US?". LOLOLOLOL I could have beaten the shi'ite out of this fat ass-clown when I was 12 or 13 years old. Good point Ryan. The gop and their evil and stupid followers are all racists. How come no god-lovin, "honest", justice seeking gop homos have come forward to prosecute gw and his admin(except Powell) for war crimes? And these stupid pricks(gop) think that their god didn't see what they and their god-boy-king gw did in in Iraq? Maybe they think that they can pay mr. satan off with all of their ill-gotten wealth. I loved yesterday's article that proved how stupid the gop is(besides walking living proof of idiocy palin, gw, bachman, perry, mccain(worst pilot ever) by releasing info on the grade school level of the gop when it comes to using correct language and grammar). The worst was a swamp rat from New Orleans that had the command of the english language equal to a 7th grader. And the gop's had the lowest number of all. Not surprised.
    Iraq War Vet who hates, hates the evil, fat, bloated, corrupt gop and wishes them all a nice time in hell.

  216. Anonymous

    Michele Jonason Wolfe you are a dumb whore. I'll take a muslim over the gop and the way that they use god and abortion to start illegal wars. I was in Iraq you f**king idiot and the security of this nation went bad the moment we invaded Iraq. gw made the whole world hate the US. He's not a muslim you dumb cunt, how fucking stupid are you? I think what you reallly want is O's big chocolate thunder thrusting in and out of your ugly mouth and cellulite ridden thighs. Matter of security in this country? Who's invading our shores michele? The merman folk from Atlantis? Cthulu from R'leyh? What the fuck have the gop done for this country the last 3 years? Block everything that Obama proposes while screwing the american people blind. Those racist, treasonous fucks are a danger to our security, not Obama. Oh I see you are in art school. Couldn't make it to a real college, eh? That's because all white women are secret muslim terrorists bent on destroying this country like you. Thank you Denise and Doug for your intelligent, well-informed posts.
    Iraq War Vet who hates the evil gop and their blind, stupid as ge sheep.

  217. Anonymous

    Michele Jonason Wolfe he made inmates wear pink. Sounds like some tough guy white sherriff likes seeing grown men in pink. That's called homosexuality you stupid, cum-guzzling, pig.

  218. Doug Johnson

    You are an idiot.He makes them where pink for a reason stupid.How stupid can you be? well never mind !! Your a left wing begot that likes to name call when you have nothing real to say cause your an idiot and every time you open your mouth the smell of shit fill's the room.Your a cry baby sissy so come on lets hear some more you O'bama turd sniffing piece of crap.

  219. Doug Johnson

    You are an idiot.He makes them where pink for a reason stupid.How stupid can you be? well never mind !! Your a left wing begot that likes to name call when you have nothing real to say cause your an idiot and every time you open your mouth the smell of shit fill's the room.Your a cry baby sissy so come on lets hear some more you O'bama turd sniffing piece of crap.

  220. Doug Johnson

    Aren't you a piece of work,you left winged piece of crap,Your so grown up now.Your mommie always let you use the grown up potty mouth words?? I bet you lick all over O'dumbass's pictures.Why don't you go craw back in the ass you craw'd out of.

  221. Templar Ffolkes

    you are a moron if you associate qualification with racism………………… this is not an affirmative action situation