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Dr. Phil Calls Vets With PTSD ‘Monsters’ and ‘Damaged Goods’

on December 7, 2009 in Los Angeles, California.

Dr. Phil featured a segment on his April 19th show titled “From Heroes To Monsters”, which talked about the issue of veterans with PTSD and their families that have to deal with the trauma of them coming home.

The summary of the Dr. Phil episode, which featured wives of the PTSD veterans details the episode as, “Dr. Phil delves into Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and how it can destroy families, dismantle marriages and leave its victims reliving a nightmare. You don’t have to be a soldier at war to suffer from PTSD.”

The Dr. Phil preview of the show goes to show the families crying over the violent PTSD episodes, with a voice over saying the words “damaged goods” in reference to these soldiers that are coming back disabled from the turmoil of war.

One of Dr. Phil’s guests that appears during this special is Matt, a veteran who suffers from PTSD, and he speaks about his horrific experience in Afghanistan, having stabbed an enemy soldier repeatedly in the face. He also goes on to say that he saw “lots” of innocent children were killed. Dr. Phil also features Duane, another PTSD soldier who beats his wife Heather. Another soldier that Dr. Phil featured on the show set his wife on fire.

Of course, the only common link between all the stories featured in this “From Heroes To Monsters” special is the violent nature of these soldiers, putting a giant stereotype on people who deal with PTSD. A recent study uncovered by The Washington Post’s David Browne says that the link between PTSD and violence is weak, “Post-traumatic stress disorder and traumatic brain injury can increase a person’s anger and hostility and diminish his or her self-control. But the link between those disorders and outright violent behavior is weak and hard to pin down with certainty.”

With that said, it’s easy to deduce that Dr. Phil may just be exploiting yet another popular hot topic to pull in viewers. What do you think?

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81 Responses to “Dr. Phil Calls Vets With PTSD ‘Monsters’ and ‘Damaged Goods’”

  1. Jim Cumberland

    Who the fuck does this Quack think he is? How dare he go on national television and say that ANY Soldier is any less then a hero? Evidently when a shrink gets on TV they don't have to keep abreast of Modern Psychiatric science any more. We need to start a Boycott of his show and contact his Sponsors. It work on Rush Limbough why not "Phil the pill".

  2. David Bober

    He's a TV-ratings-obsessed sack of shit who is unworthy of being called "doctor" and I hope to God corporations pull sponsorship from his show.

  3. Jack Payne

    He is an ass obsessed with his sense of infallibility. I say lets put him in Helmand for 6-8 months see if that changes his opinion.

  4. Sean Stark

    Is he even a real Dr? I have ptsd and this pisses me off more than most things

  5. Jeff Swain

    He's chicken shit on a stick..if ur gauged this way..today, I shoulda killed 17 dumb ass fuckers before noon.

  6. John Mitchell

    mr phil I am surprised that you have the balls to call vets damaged goods, I am a vet with ptsd and to have someone like you come and say that were monsters and damaged goods pisses me off. the fact that you went on live tv and said that drew in more fear towards vets and made it appear as everyone with ptsd is like rambo who will jump through other peoples windows at night and kill them while their sleeping. yes some of us do have violent reaction but that's what happens when you've been shot at, beat up on, and had to be on alert 24/7 for a good part of a year or more but were not the only ones. if you look at rape victims, gang related hazeings drive by shooting victems, abused childeren they show alot of the symptoms as soldiers that come back from war yet you call us monsters. I'm not even going to call you a dr because in my opinion you relinquished that title as soon as you started hurting the reputation of vets.

  7. John Mitchell

    mr phil I am surprised that you have the balls to call vets damaged goods, I am a vet with ptsd and to have someone like you come and say that were monsters and damaged goods pisses me off. the fact that you went on live tv and said that drew in more fear towards vets and made it appear as everyone with ptsd is like rambo who will jump through other peoples windows at night and kill them while their sleeping. yes some of us do have violent reaction but that's what happens when you've been shot at, beat up on, and had to be on alert 24/7 for a good part of a year or more but were not the only ones. if you look at rape victims, gang related hazeings drive by shooting victems, abused childeren they show alot of the symptoms as soldiers that come back from war yet you call us monsters. I'm not even going to call you a dr because in my opinion you relinquished that title as soon as you started hurting the reputation of vets.

  8. Lafemme Roar

    I would like to see the full episode before I can truly comment on the presumed irresponsibility of the episode. I do know that the Dr. Phil commercials are full of trigger scenes begging for the audience to tune in and most of those snippets seem "sensationalized." So I really need to see the show, but I've scoured the Internet and I can't find the episode. If anyone has a link – please share.

  9. Cynthia S Woodard

    What about Dr. Phil doing a show on the families that lost a loved one in the war and the PTSD that they suffer every day? My son Michael was kia on Oct 3, 09 with 7 others from the Battle of Kemdash, Afghanistan. We relive the knock on our door time and time again. The public has no glue on what the soldiers and the families go though. Seeing what they see when in time of war has to do things to them, they are only human. There is not enough help for the ones with the PTSD and SBI. Proud mom of Sgt. Michael Scusa.

  10. Cynthia S Woodard

    What about Dr. Phil doing a show on the families that lost a loved one in the war and the PTSD that they suffer every day? My son Michael was kia on Oct 3, 09 with 7 others from the Battle of Kemdash, Afghanistan. We relive the knock on our door time and time again. The public has no glue on what the soldiers and the families go though. Seeing what they see when in time of war has to do things to them, they are only human. There is not enough help for the ones with the PTSD and SBI. Proud mom of Sgt. Michael Scusa.

  11. Stefan A Bentley

    How bout this ahole we'll give you a combat load an a weapon an you go see an do what we do, you have no f+#kin right to call us monsters or broken goods, go f$@k yourself, an you callyourself a doctor

  12. Angelia Beasley

    My husband is a vet and suffers from ptsd, people doesn't realize what I deal with. The only reason I do is because I love him. He has never hit me but he gets pretty angry. We have been through therapist at VA and everything .. he has been home for 2 1/2 years now, I was hoping it was better than this by now. I pray pray pray about it and try to show him I'm here for him. But its not easy and I am a true witness to that.

  13. Pat Jollota

    shame, shame, shame. no excuse for this, he violated all oaths he ever took.

  14. Ken Bilderback

    It's easier to blame vulnerable individuals than to explore the tough issues. Better ratings, too, if we can pin labels on people.

  15. Ryan Novak

    When will they finally take this wack job pos off the air?

  16. Jonathan Witt

    ………………….Another person on my hate list…..hmmmm that list is getting rather long these days….. GFYS Phil

  17. Marcus Pruitt

    Because of all those soldiers who have gone out there and fought for our freedom, and gave their lives and limbs in service to this country, only because of them does he haven't the freedom to come on tv and make us sound like were lesser a person than him!! I am a united states MARINE and you Dr. Phil are the monster, I know for a fact its definently not my brothers and sisters in arms!!

  18. Coleah I. Penley-Ayers

    I know it sounded harsh, but it is the truth, unfortunately. These youngsters need our understanding more than anything.

    I've communicated intensely with vets with PTSD on veteran sites. They are coming home 'damaged' and either feel (quilty) like they are monsters because of what they had to do, or their behavior (anger) is focused toward others. Some have killed themselves, some have killed others, some are so hateful and ugly it is difficult to listen to them as a group and some actually reach out and 'blog' their thoughts daily (wanting understand and to heal).

    Common is not feeling like our country cares enough about them (coming home to no jobs, big problem with homelessness, fighting for healthcare and benefits). Last I heard the VA had a backlog of 900,000 claims. They don't like the govt, the military and especially Obama.

  19. Heather Lynn Tyler

    Angelia, reading this was like reading my own thoughts.

  20. Arthur A. Ball

    I'm not really that surprised. After all, in another episode of his BS showw, he told a war vet to stay with a wife who cheats and abuses him. Yet whenever it's a Military he wants to call the vets monsters and tell the wives to get out as soon as possible? What a biased POS. That's why I do NOT watch his show at all anymore. BOYCOTT DR PHIL, he obvioussly has no support for the very people who give his sorry ass the right to even call them MONSTERS.

  21. Jennifer Anderson

    I have several Iraq/Afghan veteran friends a few of which suffer from mild to sever PTSD. Regardless of how we felt about the war thesebrave men and women did what they signed up to do. They went I to combat which most of us would never have the balls to do. How dare someone who has never expierencrd this first hand say anything about how war changes a person. Maybe if more trust fund kids were sent to the front lines of combat to honor their country instead of using daddy's money to bail hem out of another drug conviction thegovernment would have better programs in place for people who are scarifying their lives and families for a war most of them didn't even agree with.

  22. Bernie Triano

    I've been dealing with PTSD for years and have never turned violent towards anyone. The VA has helped me cope and so does a strong family understanding of what I am going through. It is controlable and anyone that tells you different is a liar, even good old Dr."Gert TV Ratings" Phil.

  23. Rob Moorhead

    He's a hack. His opinions should have an accompanying disclaimer that they are for entertainment purposed only.

  24. Katrina Scott

    No vet that served my country should be referred to as "damaged goods", and especially not "monsters". growing up with a father with ptsd gave the experience first hand and I'm offended by Dr Phil's remarks about our troops! I would never call my dad a monster

  25. Kimberly Cook

    as katrinas sister she is talking about r dad and i back her up yes he came back a different person but who in the hell would not he is not damaged goods or a damn monster he is human and our father and dr phil need to make a public apology for that and i cant say what else but he can never make it right when u go through the hell and torture that our armed forces do they have the right to be different than when they left

  26. Steve Campos

    There is only one way to stop soldiers from developing ptsd or dieing oversees and that is to stop getting in these pointless wars that don't do any good for the united states of america.

  27. Linda Howton

    As another wounded warrior's spouse, I too, can attest that loving our heroes is the best medicine for them and ourselves. PTSD has changed my husband as well, but finding the "new normal" is what keeps us moving forward. Keep your faith, trust in the love you have and continue the journey ahead. God Bless you and your family.

  28. Don Barnett

    He found people who claim to lash out violently and then use PTSD as an excuse. I have served tours in both places and yes some horrible things happen but that does not excuse poor behavior back home. Dr Phil is full of crap.

  29. Chad Jukes

    Sean, Dr Phil hasn't had a license to practice clinical psychology since the 90's. So the answer would be no, he is not a medical doctor.

  30. Chad Jukes

    Angelia, as a combat veteran myself, the advice I would give is keep at it. Treatment can be very frustrating at times when the results aren't quick to show themselves, but these things take YEARS. There are still many veterans of previous wars (Vietnam, WWII, Korea) who still suffer very severely from PTSD because back then treatment wasn't available. Also, it wouldn't hurt to look into recreational options for treatment. If you send me a message I can put together a partial list of some organizations for you.

  31. Chad Jukes

    Don, I have also served tours in Afghanistan and Iraq, where I lost my right leg. I have been fortunate enough to not suffer too severely from PTSD, but I will be the first to say that PTSD is not an excuse that people use. Look at the vast amount of research out there. Violence can be, but isn't always, a symptom and result of PTSD. The number one thing to consider is that it is treatable through therapy and recreation.

  32. Chad Jukes

    Coleah I. Penley-Ayers it is not the truth though. I am a veteran myself (incidentally, I support Obama greatly. He is doing good things for veterans and working hard to bring my brothers and sisters at arms home from war.)

    After loosing my right foot in combat I was fortunate to not suffer too severely from PTSD. I have many friends who weren't so lucky. The thing is they are not monsters or damaged goods. They suffer from a very severe clinical condition which is treatable. Dr Phil (who has not been licensed to practice clinical psychology since the '90s) is doing more harm than good in calling them such things.

    We need to overcome these stigmas that surround PTSD in order to help veterans feel that it is acceptable to reach out for help for PTSD. Ya know those bumper stickers that say "SUPPORT OUR TROOPS"? Does that mean support the troops who don't make you uncomfortable?

    People in the US have been happy to support 2 wars and buy a soldier dinner at the airport coming home. Our troops need long term support to include support through these trying times.

  33. Tom S. Finke III

    Dear Dr. Phill
    Why don't you live with a vet that has PTSD really bad for 72 hours and then run your want a be Dr. to tell the wifes to leave their love ones you stupid a$$ you should be pointing them to the nearest VA for help they not only help the Vet's they allso help their families with living with a familey member who is living with PTSD.

  34. Thomas Finke

    Look dick head you should be thanking these men and help them find ways to deal with ptsd. They laid down down their lives for the greater good of this country and your your stupid fucking miserable life. I am an 18 year old that has too live with my fathers PTSD, i have never once felt that i was in fear for my life or my mothers. But with the grace of TV you can find the worst of the worst there are different levels of PTSD you small minded prick. Try living with someone your whole life that has PTSD then you can judge say what you want… Until then you have no fucking idea

  35. Tom S. Finke III

    Dear Dr. Phill Why don't you live with a vet that has PTSD for 72 hours and then run your want a be Dr's mouth to tell the wifes to leave their love ones you stupid a$$ you should relize that suicide in vets is high now what do you think that would do. I can tell you what will happen is more vets sucide rate would go up haven their loved ones run away and isolate them even more than thay are because you want to be Dr. I suffer from PTSD I can't be in crowds I go to my American Legion if their is more than 10 to 12 people in their I have to leave. Why don't you do more research before you open your mouth and maybe you would know to be pointing them to the nearest VA for help they not only help the Vet's they all so help the Vet's families living with this that is suffering with PTSD. The VA will help Vets family and their family members who is living with a PTSD. Vets families dont relize what is going on their love ones head. And the VA counseling sheds a light on it to help them understand. By the way do you relize that Soldier, Marine, Sailor, and Airman dealing with this has been shot at 300 days of their tour of duty. I think you owe us Vets an apology.
    Thank you for your time
    BM2 Thomas FinkeIII Ret. USN EOD Technician.

  36. Becky Plummer

    Right below this story dogging the Dr. Phil show you run a story about a US Army soldier who is charged with killing 17 unarmed people, and will face murder of all 17. I know that all PTSD sufferers turn violent but I believe that is more prominent that most people think,..

  37. Mallie Ray

    This is a horrible and biased account about what a minority of our troops who suffer from PTSD do. I myself am a Marine, got out in 2009, and know quite a few Marines with PTSD. I can tell you first hand that none of them have every done anything like what was told in this story. Perhaps Dr. Phil should get all the facts before he goes around making false statements and putting even more negative spotlight on our troops who have been through so much. Shame on you Dr. Phil.

  38. Sandra Ray

    This is another person who has decided to follow what "they" want him to say instead of the truth.

  39. Jason Kocheran

    I suffer from PTSD. Have not had a violent episode since I came home. After this, for you Dr. Phil, I think I could make an exception.

  40. Aurora MoRealist

    I can personally speak only to PTSD itself. It is NOT to be taken lightly but as a sign that a person's coping skills have maxed out and left them out of balance in some way. Finding the balance is what I work on daily and after 16 sessions, so far, with a Trauma Counselor since last fall (oh boy, fall, there's a word, lol), I can only say I make progress daily and sometimes even surprise myself when I catch myself thinking "hey, the world is not such a bad place after all." In my limited observation (and never having seen the show), Monsters make choices they KNOW are wrong. Without getting too psychological, I believe PEOPLE try to make the right choices but when under duress or just brain overload, they can make choices they would NEVER normally make. The difference is, most of us try to do better, even when we are paralytic and unable to cope with anything, we call someone, we put one foot ahead of the other and keep trying to improve. It's all we can do. No matter what the experts want to spout/label or propagandize. Just giving my three pennies worth, LFR :) :) :)

  41. Aurora MoRealist

    I have a couple pieces about my own PTSD experience on my pages, too.

  42. Anthony Eplee

    It is kind of disheartening to see this out of him and how so many of are reacting. I am in what the Army calls the Chronic stage and facing retirement, I don't want it but I am going forward with it to use what I learned to help others (Never leave a fallen soldier behind). I hate that they are painting us this way but hey if you don't understand someone or something you paint it in the ugliest colors you can find to make others share your fears. I am not Disabled I am enhanced. I am aware of my surroundings and I REFUSE to be a take advange of (and some day can spell). Let him have his fame and get his ratings I have my wife, my family, and my life is there more that I need? I refuse to let him tell people how I live or who I chose to be. Notice he did not invite anyone that is living life and doing well with it. Maybe instead of making us villians maybe he should be actually teach the reat of america how to help us!

  43. Richard Valentin

    Eplee I agree with you 100% this so call Dr. is a fool how in the hell he can call anyone who suffers from PTSD monsters or damaged goods. He better watch what he is saying cause there are lots of us Vet and Soldiers that are suffering from PTSD.

  44. Rob Perry

    Just know that those of us in your family are proud of you, support you and love you. Always have and always will.

  45. Melissa Galloway Eplee

    Babe, you know that "Dr" Phil got his degree from a cereal box! He just wants to sensationalize something he doesn't understand to sell books and boost ratings to his pathetic tv show. Those of us who live with PTSD every day know that not all of the soldiers who suffer from it react like these soldiers. These 3 soldiers are also probably those who refused to ask for help.

  46. Melissa Galloway Eplee

    What helped my husband is going into the Warrior Transition Unit when he came home from Afghanistan. Your husband needs to continue treatment and you need it yourself! I'm getting my own treatment to deal with my own issues from his PTSD. Trust me, it will get better.

  47. Tonia Nelson

    This really ticks me off. My husband suffered from PTSD for a time once he came back from being in the middle east several years ago. He was never violent with me or our children. He would just have these horrible nightmares and if you tried to wake him up while sleeping you had to be careful cause sometimes he would grab hold of your arm and jerk up….I never let the kids wake him and just called out to him until he did wake. Dr. Phil is nothing more then a glory seeker who clearly doesn't know much.

  48. Angela Santos

    I totally agree. Craig had the same problem and was put on medicine. If you have never been on a deployment then I guess you should not open your mouth because as you and I know it is a big change in their lives to deal with!

  49. Matthew D Lowery

    Hey if you just take your medications like the VA tells you to, you wouldn't have this problem… lol I'm on at least 20 different mood elevators, and anxiety meds. It's great, I freakin LOVE IT! sorry that's just the mood elevators talking….

  50. Matthew D Lowery

    Mallie you are correct, this is totally biased because PTSD has many different symtoms and can vary with every person that has it, from just having night terrors, all the way to just being crazy. But not all troops should be steriotyped just because a few soldiers can't handle theirselves and lose control. For somone who is diagnosised with PTSD, I believe that I handle mine very well. And if I was having as much trouble with it as these guys, I wouldn't go on TV to milk it, I would go see a real doctor, not go on a show to tell America about my problems. Maybe these guys are that bad, but tell me why, out of anything, would they choose to go on tv to show off these problems.

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