Category: Technology Author : Steven Hodson Posted: February 10, 2009
Tags : Facebook, friendfeed, social media, social networks, Twitter
Facebook proves how lame it is – steals from Twitter and FriendFeed

Before we go any further I should make something clear – just in case you haven’t figured it out by now – I am not a fan of Facebook. I don’t agree with its terms of service which gives them total ownership over anything I do while I am there. I don’t like some of the moves that they have; or are rumoured to be looking at, to monetize the social media behemoth. Unfortunately though in my line of work Facebook is a necessary evil but one I use as little as possible.
That said I am really beginning to think that this behemoth could be in trouble. How else does that explain its recent moves to open up its status API in order to compete against Twitter and then the announcement that they were adding a direct rip-off of FriendFeed’s ‘Like’ feature. Years into a business and Facebook still has to figure out how it is going to make the serious money it needs in order to live up to the bullshit valuation figure that the VC market says it is worth. Its one foray into advertising using the Beacon program proved to be a dismal failure and it is still chewing through money with no idea of how to live up to expectations.
So what do they do?
They go hunting for the features that are making Twitter and FriendFeed popular and copy them. Some might like to suggest that mimicry is the next best thing to flattery but in this case I think it smacks more of desperation as Facebook is trying to do whatever it can to maim potential rivals for any part of its services. Sure Facebook might have the numbers of users on their side but each and everyone of those users is costing them money – money that they don’t seem to be able to figure out how to capitalize on.
Stealing ideas though is no way to do it though – it only shows how lame you are.
[hat tip - belatedly - to Kyle Brady ]







Feb 10, 2009
Yeah, ya know, I just can't see it. The notion of saving, starring, favoriting, etc, just doesn't seem to be so epic and ingenious of a feature to be steal-worthy. All sites should have this. Saves on the dozens of 'this is great' comments, when a simple non-verbal communication click would do the trick.
This seems to be an issue in only the places where social media industry fandom runs higher than normal. It's just not a huge feature to fret over.
Feb 10, 2009
“Bad artists copy. Great artists steal.”
— Pablo Picasso
Feb 10, 2009
Agreed… A site adding a feature as innocuously generic as “Like” hardly seems something worthy of getting offensive about.
Feb 10, 2009
Here you're complaining about Facebook “stealing” Twitter's and FriendFeeds “ideas” yet I'm sure you'd complain if either received a patent on their innovative ideas. Without proprietary rights, the big guys can squash the little guys with ease. Didn't Gmail recently add a “to do” list feature identical to some startup's concept?
The one thing that sets the U.S. apart is our ability to innovate. It has provided us with a competitive advantage that has helped sustain our economy for decades and create jobs and opportunities. Invalid patents are a problem (the changes in obviousness standard should reduce such invalid patents as should the patent office being better equipped), but valid patents properly reward innovation – the lifeblood of our economy.
Feb 10, 2009
I very much doubt FriendFeed or Twitter invented the favoriting feature.
Feb 10, 2009
What, no name credit?
I linked you the article, gave you the premise for the post, AND wrote 2/3 of the title!
–Kyle
Feb 10, 2009
(checking email folders .. ooppss) sorry about that I got one from you and one from the boss man about the same thing. Fixed it up.
Feb 10, 2009
I'm not fretting over it per se because as I said I don't use Facebook – I don't like Facebook so really it doesn't matter in the larger scale of things to me. I just think that it's one thing to copy an idea or feature and make it better somehow but it is another thing to cut 'n paste an idea or feature.
Feb 10, 2009
I wasn't being offensive in the least.
Feb 10, 2009
For me its not so much the idea of facebook adding the like feature as its the general move towards a friendfeed-like activity stream on the site. Few months ago they added the stream itself with comments and people made the same uproar about copying and it was justified then as it is now. No friendfeed didn't invite the like feature, could compare it to digging up, but friendfeed was one of the first major sites to put all the stuff together.
Feb 10, 2009
Haha I was just kidding. I didn't really need a mention since it's a pretty obvious connection. I only sent out an email in the hopes you guys could be “first” to say it.
But thanks for the props anyways!
–Kyle
Feb 10, 2009
Aren't we a little harsh on Facebook here? “Stealing” ideas? Yeah, they implemented something that FriendFeed and Twitter already have. So what? Businesses have been copying each other since the beginning of time. As far as “ripping off”, well we don't know yet what Facebook will do with its Like feature. They may use the data for something different than what Friendfeed does and may even be an innovative one.
Feb 10, 2009
Not sure you're correct Geoffrey. I think you are mixing up Copyrights and Patents.
You can't copyright an idea, but you can patent it.
Feb 10, 2009
FYI- a patent or copyright ownership is only as good as your ability to enforce it.
And John an idea/discovery must meet the manner of manufacture requirements before it can be patented. A discovery/idea is not a patentable invention unless one uses the knowledge and ingenuity to produce either a new and useful thing or result, or a new and useful method of producing an old thing or result.
Feb 11, 2009
Interesting – using someone's photograph without acknowledgement in a post about copyright and theft.
http://ocaoimh.ie/2007/06/15/the-thieving-duck-…
Feb 11, 2009
Facebook has to pay 65 MILLIONS $ to ConnectU…..
Everything was stolen but I'll keep using it.
Feb 12, 2009
@G-man,
No one cares if the idea is patentable or not…FB is still lame for not being able to come up with anything original. Overavalued at what, $15,000,000,000!?! You got to be kidding…and the only way it can think of monetizing is by holding banner ads up in the face of its 200M members? While you're looking at pics of your friends, do you really give a shit about the teeth-whitening ad in the right column (or poorly embedded in the news feed)?
Facebook's problem is it has a 20+ year old as a CEO. Not taking anything away from his initiative or intelligence, Zuckerberg doesn't have the experience to sense the correct business moves. Did you know FB's Terms of Use forbid, yes FORBID, you from having a personal FB page and an FB page for your business? You can have one or the other, but you can't change. If you have a personal page, you CANNOT create a business page; however, if you have a business page, FB will gladly allow you to change it to a personal page. (It's because FB doesn't want your updates to be in your business' name…it wants businesses to pay for that privilege.) Bill Gates found this out. That's why he left FB in Feb 2008…he was getting 8000+ friend requests a day…and because FB didn't have the experience to know that its strength was in the virility of its news, it lost a powerful member. Those 8000+ were not Bill's fans…they were MS's fans (believe it or not!). Nonetheless, FB lost gates. Check it out. MS has an FB Fan page, but no MS FB page. So, in order for MS to reach those 8000+ who would have been willing to join its FB page, MS will now have to use FB's PPC or CPM marketing features.
Facebook is lame as hell and will wither unless it wakes up.
JW
Jun 4, 2009
I like facebook for social networking and keeping track of my friends but its no bueno when it comes to discovering bands. I find the layout of myspace to be nauseating so I've been using http://www.putiton.com to find and follow new music acts.
Jun 16, 2009
put it on is pretty cool. thanks for the heads up! (even though you probably work for them)
Aug 2, 2009
Nice observation but I still love Facebook