Greyhound Bus Lines Doesn’t Understand Why Alec Baldwin Hates Them

Given the state of our TSA and the cattle car mentality of flying anymore, I will gladly give Greyhound a try. My seat would likely be larger, and my ears wouldn't be popping.

Off with his head..

The obese, pompous, third rate actor and buffoon, should not be allowed to fly on any airline in the US. He was brought up badly by his parents. He has no manners, and therefore no class.

Alec Baldwin is an A$$, he'll never be a GREAT actor. He turns decent folks off completely with his I'm an Actor I can do anything I want attitude. PATHEDIC JACKASS!

Unfortunately, the TSA goons are at bus stations too, ready to grope granny. They are called TSA VIPER teams.

The quote that Mr. Baldwin used was: “Last flight w American. Where retired Catholic school gym teachers from the 1950′s find jobs as flight attendants.” Of course, if he had said "Moslem" or "Jew", he would have been called on the carpet. Not okay to offend Greyhound, okay to offend Catholics… the last acceptable bigotry in America.

Alex , you are a spolied brat that needs your fanny spanked out behind the woodshed..

Baldwin is just a complete idiot. He can not utter a word without being negative and insulting.
AA despicable human that should only speak when someone else has written down the words.
kinda like our teleprompter leader.

TSA now at bus terminals, yet another violation of our rights. The gov’t constantly violates our rights.
They violate the 1st Amendment by caging protesters and banning books like “America Deceived II”.
They violate the 4th and 5th Amendment by allowing TSA to grope you.
They violate the entire Constitution by starting undeclared wars.
Impeach Obama, support Ron Paul.
Last link of “America Deceived II” before it is completely banned:
http://www.amazon.com/America-Deceived-II-Possession-interrogation/dp/1450257437

He's a spoiled Hollywood idiot. I feel bad for the other passengers who were delayed. Grow up and quit whining over a game.

I'm thinking Greyhound should sue Alec Baldwin for defamation and libel. He's smearing the good name of a great American company for his own selfish purposes, and he has no proof to back up his claims of what a "Greyhound experience" is all about.

Greedhound doesn't understand Alec Baldwin's review of their "service" because he hasn't been the victim of rude and abusive drivers, destructive and larcenous baggage handlers (on my recent Greedhound nightmare, they "lost" my suitcases for 10 days and lightened me by close to $1000 in personal property before finally returning what was left), and broken-down equipment that sets a customer back hours or even (as in my case) days. I have, and Greedhound deserves Mr Baldwin's – and my – deservedly bad review, and then some. They are beneath the lowest common denomintator of common carriers.

Oh, no. Another cry baby.

I think that a regular Joe or Jill would have been arrested…

Wow, what does Baldwin sound to you folks? Like a petulant self aggrandizing leftist twit, IMO. Either that or maybe royalty of the past. Hmmmmm, that about sums up the entire self entitled class in this country. No wonder the world thinks so lowly of the US, with twits like this and Obama representing us, who wouldn't despise us.

I don't have a problem with Greyhound. I have a problem with 90% of the people that use Greyhound. My only experience using them when there were no flights was not pleasant. Sitting in a bus surrounded by people that hadn't bathed in days or weeks… knowing that a others had serious mental issues when they started talking to non-existent people… I will say the seats were larger and more comfortable…. but it would be better if they raised the fees to keep the nasty people off.

Ironic part is that Mr. Baldwin would be allowed to play Words with Friends on Greyhound.

To GREYHOUND and too those of you who read this comment. I am in total agreement with Baruch DovBer, this is exactly what happened to me, but I did not get any monies for my TOOLS and baggage that was stolen, NOT LOST while I was in the restroom in Las Vegas. The new bus driver and the guy in charge of the loading area had to be in on my theft. They both assured me that my tools and baggage would be alright while I went to the restroom. 5 minutes later I returned and they told me that my stuff was loaded. When I got to the next station we again changed buses and to my COMPLETE SURPRISE my stuff was not on board. That's when the nightmare began. 14 letters, 32 emails, 32 phone calls and all I got was "send us more information, even though I had my baggage tickets and no baggage. They never even send me the $250.00 baggage loss that everyoneis supposed to get when this happens. And I had paid for the $1000.00 insurance. 3 months later they won, I gave up. NEVER AND I MEAN NEVER AGAIN WILL I OR ANY OF MY KIDS OR FRIENDS EVER GET ON ANOTHER GREYHOUND BUS. MR. BALDWIN AND Baruch DOVBER are absolutely right. GREYHOUND is beneath the lowest carriers in the world including those even south of the border. Oh and Chris Giroir IVE BEEN THERE. This is the worse example of a US company that has no conscience, and is still functioning in our country.

I think John Travolta should run a charter service for all of these hollywood types on his big jet he has.

Don't you just hate when these "1 %'ers" behave badly.

Baldwin is a Catholic, though, I believe.

He is a top notch, first class, grade A, jack ass.

However, his punishment should be to ride from New York to LA…on the bus!

Everything Baldwin said is completely accurate…

Must be pretty lonely at the top of the A-Hole list Baldwin. Enjoy it for the next few hours. I'm sure another one of your uppity, too good for the 99% will displace you soon.

The end of the item refers to him apologizing to "customers who were flying on the plane at the time he was kicked off the jet." If they threw him off while they were flying, then it must have been worse than traveling on a bus – but not by much.

What a brat. The same pervert who portrayed himself as a child molester in the SNL skit. What a sick perverted individual.

Really! Catholic?

Alec Baldwin, whether he realizes it or not, is one of the very individuals who caused him to refer to a "Greyhound Bus". I've had cause to ride on Greyhound and have found them to be very courteous and the passengers far more respectful, less annoying, and quieter than on any recent flight I've taken. If you ask me, the airlines is the cesspool of travel in many cases – people dressing in underwear, disrespectful toward passengers and employees and you don't have to go thru that stupid TSA line to take a ride. It's given me pause to re-consider bus travel. Thanks Alec.

Not my experience at all. So why don't you try flying if the bus is such an unthinkable experience?

I guess I sholud not paint with a broad brush but it always seems to be the liberals that have problems have problems with authority. The Occupy crowd. Actors/Singers/ on airplanes. And as a liberal, I don't know why Baldwin would insult a company like Greyhound who serves a demographic that he is supposedly champions.

Like so many people in his field the acting synapse is about the only one that fires in his brain. The rest of them, sadly, don't work at all.

And he is just ONE example of why I refuse to support Hollywood "Stupid Stars" at the box office. If the movie isn't ready for Goodwill or Salvation Army second time around, I can pass on it. They're not getting rich off my heard earned money.

Sounds like you need to drive your car.

I rode a greyhound once, it was the closest thing to eternal life this side of death. It took what seemed like forever.

That being said, it was clean, the crew was nice and I was free to use my electrical devices from the moment I got on until I reached my destination.

He's just a concieted pompous jerk who thinks the rules don't apply to him. The funny thing about this is that he thinks it is ok for him to do as he wishes on a commerical flight for what he does on a private plane. Guess what Alec there is a HUGE difference between flying commerical and flying on a private corporate jet…..its not like you can't afford to fly private, so why not do it…then you can do as you wish since you would probably be the only one of the plane anyway.

guess you're gonna go on and on about how hollywood is being punished also…..that jews, catholics and other religions are discriminated against in Hollywood…..quit your whining and if you don't like it then don't use them again. Simple solution rather than making yourself out to be an Alec Baldwin douchebag wannabe

I've actually used the Greyhound Brand "Bolt Bus" to get to Boston with wifi and 110 power and comfortable seats. So for $16 bucks and no pat downs Midtown to South Station in 4 hours (nearly 4 billable hours of work as well).

He is the prime example of an elitist liberal. "Supports OWS", but is not about to give up any of his perks, flies first class, does not give a f— about inconveniencing other travelers, can blithely insult anyone he feels like….and, of course, supports Obama. And he called his daughter an ungrateful pig? I guess the apple did not fall far from the tree.

Greyhound a REAL American company…….Baldwin = Works for the Chinese…XD.

Please, John Travolta would have nothing to do with these "I am King" types in Hollywood, and John Travolta would not treat other like that. Please!!

I aree with you. Everytime I go through a TSA check point I feel like I/m entering the Soviet Union. I'd rather ride Greyhound when the time allows, and I think mos people would. Time crunch to drive is the only factor that keeps the airlines flying, otherwiise flying sucks.

awww. poor Catholics.

Kim LaCapria Right? Just like Pelosi is a Catholic…

Kim LaCapria Yes, but so is Nancy Pelosi – being baptized Catholic doesn't give you brains, manners or a key to heaven. Balwin definately has issues which are catching up to him.

Baldwin said he would leave the country if Bush won….still waiting!

Baldwin is a spoiled hollywood brat. However, there is no evidence anywhere that cell phones interfere with airplane operation. If it did, planes would fall out of the sky every day. There is no way everyone everywhere is turning off their devices on every flight. The whole flying experience is WORSE than a bus, because they can violate your person in every imaginable way in the name of security. Can't really blame the attendants though, they're just doing their jobs.

Actually, I'm more comfortable on a Greyhound than on a plane. Alec thinks he is so far above the rest of us mere mortals. He has anger management issues and is a buffoon. The rules never apply to him.

Lets not forget this guy is a huge Obama supporter, and that the gist of his comment is that he is above using something as pedestrian as a private sector bus line for travel, and deserves better. Shall we flashback to his "Occupy Wall Street" visit — yet another clueless progressive/liberal continuing in that fine liberal/progressive tradition of "does not apply to me".

Baldwin just gave Greyhound thousands of dollars worth of free unintended contrarian publicity. I’m still trying to understand not only why “Baldwin the Brat” wasn’t jailed after being thrown off that flight but also why the airlines allowed him to board another flight.

" I don't know why Baldwin would insult a company like Greyhound who serves a demographic that he is supposedly champions."

Because this idiot does not champion anybody or anything besides his farked up ego.

I'm both a Catholic and a product of Catholic school education. It is not offensive to say that Catholic school personnel are strict. I'm a rider of both airplanes and buses, and the bus experience is more comfortable and generally more pleasant. The only advantage planes offer is speed once in the air. Other than that, air travel is pure misery.

Now why would he throw Greyhound under the bus? I'm just wondering, when he apologizes for this apology, will he incorporate an insult to Amtrak?

Anyone who chooses to fly in this day and age is mentally ill. I won't allow myself to be subject to the whims of TSA and neither should you.

Greyhound should have taken the opportunity to say how much better they are then American Airline and that at least you don't have to turn off your phone when you ride the bus.

I believe that there is a possibility of some interference with certain instruments in the cock pit.

REFERENCE THIS ARTICLE FOR THE FACTS:

As of 2011, most airlines do not allow the use of mobile phones on aircraft, because it is thought they could adversely affect the navigational instruments in the cockpit. Because of this, the airline personnel require that such devices be turned off while the aircraft is airborne.

'In the US, the use of mobile phones and similar devices on airplanes has been banned by the governmental Federal Communications Commission.[1]

There is evidence showing various degrees of correlation between use of mobile phones in flight and various instrument problems. One study concluded that mobile phones used in the cabin could exceed the rated allowable interference levels for some avionics installed in aircraft. On the other hand, links between device use and actual system failures have not been proven, nor have the reported incidents been reproduced in ground tests.

Since the regulations were imposed by various international bodies, there have been advances in equipment and systems which have allowed the gradual introduction of safe in-flight communications via mobile phones and such devices. These systems are being implemented by an increasing number of airlines and carriers as each is tested by the authority responsible for air-safety and deemed to be fit for use.'

I would always prefer to err on the side of caution in these matters. Or is it so much more important to text, chat, and play games???

Looks like Greedhound's PR flacks are out early, spewing abuse and libels at those who out this company for the corporate atrocity they are. Try training your drivers and not stealing property from your customers, and you'll deserve better reviews, Greedhound!

I don't know if Baldwin has ever been on a Greyhound but its freaking obvious this rep hasn't either, or in the lest doesn't have the same experience on the bus the rest of the 17.6 million do. The last time I took a greyhound was from IL to Cali. And when we laid over and transferred in Salt lake they left my luggage behind. When I seen my bags on the cart As the bus was pulling over to the fueling depot I told the driver my bags were still on the cart, he told me to sit the F down and shut up, and If I said another word he would throw me off in the dessert. When I got to SF I knew my bags weren't there, I went to the baggage handlier and asked her what happen to my Bags. She turned on me and Said "Do you see them? Then they aren't here are they? I then went to the ticket window and tried to report the driver and the baggage handlier and the lady behind the glass told me IF I ever wanted to ride GH again I had better forget about it. Then the driver came out in the lobby and tried to pick a fight with me Because I was trying to report him. I was going to lay his ass out but I wont be disrespectful in the presence of my Mother. It took me 2 days to find out my bags went to Portland Or. So by now I have been crammed on a dirty smelly bus for 3 days and now I have no clean cloths for another 4 days. So when a GH employee says shit like "we take pride in our safe and enjoyable service.” They are lying peices of shit. So I for one completely understand where baldwin is coming from.

Don't you realize that they only say that crap to try and swing a couple of their mentally challenged fans to vote their way, Robert Redford, Barbara Streisand and numerous other A-holes have pulled the same crap only to slink back into oblivion once their candidate is defeated. I would be willing to pitch in for their one way ticket to whatever country they choose, as long as they promise not to come back.

He's making assumptions, based on his withering intellect that the privileged few posses. The "Greyhound Bus People" type will never be able to comprehend his depth.

I got stabbed on a Greyhound once in Memphis. Awesome American company that Greyhound is. I'd rather ride in an Egg truck.

Nice free plug for Zynga. Was the game he was playing (including the maker) relevant to this article?

Oh god, not another one of these religious rants. It's as if it's becoming a meme to call America out on going against Christians, but not Muslims and Jews. Yeah, the word is MUSLIM you ignorant person. America is run by Christians, and laws are made because of it. Jews, are a super small part of the population, as are Muslims. Yet, both Jews and Muslims get made fun of all the time, so I don't know where you are getting your information from. Watch some movies or tv, and you'll see that Jews are constantly mocked, and no one ever seems to make a big deal of it. But the second Christians are mocked, we have people like you, getting all sensitive about it. If he had said Jews or Muslims, then he would have been called to the carpet, because his analogy would not make ANY sense. Get over it. Turn the other cheek already.

I opted to save a hundo this summer when I traveled by Greyhound from Orange County to Phoenix. Biggest mistake of my life. Bus breaks down at bus station in Indio, CA. It is a sweltering 115 degrees. No-one can give you any information, I was told to just wait on the bus. I asked for how long to which they told me, "Could be a few hours…" As the man sitting next to me's burrito began to melt to a greasy mess in a napkin, I opted to get off the bus and foot it to a hotel. Upon reaching the hotel, I was jerked around for 3 hours by Greyhound customer service before they told me the office was closed for the day and I would have to call back the next morning, EST. You can imagine my kicking myself when I learned a flight from Santa Ana to Phoenix would have cost me $ 160…exactly one hundred dollars more than my Greyhound bus fair. I arrived in Phoenix 36 hours after leaving Southern Cali. I'm surprised that a Greyhound Executive was agile enough to respond to this story while it is still relevant…they should put that guy in charge of their customer service call center.

It sounds like Alec might have been on one of your buses in the past, Greyhound…or just heard the story about an experience like that from a guy like me.

Try the trains. Granted a train ride will take abouit as long as driving what with all the stops and such, but it is a pleasant mode of transportation.

He "dissed" Greyhound because he sees it as the lowliest form of transporation. I doubt he has EVER been on a Greyhound bus except for maybe on a movie set. I'd wager he's never travelled ANYWHERE on a Greyhound bus.

King Macana he champions himself, his bloated narcissistic ego, and his fecal matter acting skills…

Why do you think John left Hollywierd for Florida, and he;s a Scientologist…

You know, I've stopped flying now, last flight was 2007. I've been taking Greyhound, Trailways, and Amtrack and found it to be quite a nice change from the cattle cars that the airlines have become. No TSA thugs trying to molest me either.

Start with a little journalism. Baldwin was not thrown off AA for playing words with friends; he was thrown off for talking on his phone and refusing to get off of it, and then throwing a tantrum like a spoiled little brat. After Zynga supported Baldwin, I deleted all zynga apps from my phone.

Pity they didn't eject him from the plane in mid flight!

Edward Rochelle I saw somebody go to the bathroom on the floor of a plane once. I got mugged at the beach once, should I blame the lifeguards? Don't judge a company by some of the idiots that they have to deal with. by the way, that include Alec.

Edward Rochelle that's always an option too. I don't know if you recall, but back in 2001 3k+ died when a bunch of mooslim ragheads used box cutters to stab, and slash there way to the virgin promise land. So, apparently Greyhound isn't the only company to let a blade slip by… but thanks for playing.

PS: if getting stabbed on the bus is a viable option, then I thing alec baldwin should ride them exclusively. I'd be ok with one less wife-beating, child abusing, liberal POS on the planet…

All you people defending Greyhbound have obviously not ridden it. The drivers are horrible and quite frankly you are fortunate if you get to your destination on time. Apparently greyhound STILL doesn't get that just because they have lots of riders that doesn't mean they provide an "enjoyable" experiance. Most people that ride greyhound can only afford greyhound.

What's the big deal? He's just another Hollywood asshole, being an asshole.

Kim Basinger, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING WHEN YOU MARRIED THIS A-HOLE?

as if that would make it more acceptable, but he wasn't playing a game; he was carrying on a conversation – on the phone. maybe utilizing frequencies or signals that conflict with the operation of the airplane. in other words, putting everyone else at risk to appease his overly inflated ego. in the words or O'blackass: he's a jackass..

Alec is right, Greyhound sucks and they (Greyhound) still owe me money for their idiocy. People ride Greyhound because they have no other option. Try calling their customer service center and you will see what incompetence truly is.

Alec Baldwin is a self-absorbed narcissitic blowhard amongst other things . . . Nothing like making the jobs of the "little people" harder Alec . . . Thanks for caring . . .

Bad Movies, Bad shows, Bad attitude what do you expect from a Bad person.

some people don't have the purchasing power to travel any other way. in this yeultide season, and in these difficult times, maybe you should try to be more compassionate toward the unfortunate circumstances your fellow man is forced to endure.

i can't believe you'd mock the poor so publicly.

not all of us can afford to take the accela from south station to back bay for a quick lunch.

Kim LaCapria
He may have been born Catholic, doesn't mean he is one now. Just like he wasn't born a jackass but look what he has managed to make of himself!

It is obvious to many of us that Mr. Baldwin needs a change of attitude. Perhaps he should be one of the first sent to the camps for indoctrination of the New World Order.

Sure I can judge a company off of one incident. Greyhound is inconsiderate of their standards and thrives off of substandard equipment, service and customer service. So Robert and Chris, it's not a question of can I blame lifeguards (in a very useless analogy) or anything about 9-11 (don't get me started on that criminality), it's about Greyhound, AA and the other trash that litters the American market. Why did AA go bankrupt? Why did Greyhound go bankrupt? Because they can't compete with quality carriers and are corporate dinosaurs, figments of yesteryear when America truly was great and had decent transportation providers and society on top of that.

Not mocking the poor at all, as I was somebody who had to use Greyhound because it was the only/cheapset transportation option available. Rather, I was mocking the lack of transportation choices, even in BosWash as well as the terrible costumer service that Greyhound is notorious for.

I use rental cars in the US and when the time allows, cruise liners and even freight transports to cross the Atlantic. Almost always costs the same or less.

wasnt he leaving this country forever

This little hollyweird bitch baldwin promised to leave the country if President Bush was elected. He didn't carry it through. Bet he will fly American again. Too bad for the other passengers that had to put up with this whinnie punk.

Baldwin is and always has been a jerk!! Entitled Hollywood "above all the rest of us" Alec!

What a punk!

Why won't the Baldwins just go away quietly.

Rding greyhound is an absolutely terrible experience. I've done it a few times and pray I never have to again. Unprofessional, rude, smelly and dirty. Its like riding a prison bus only worse.

Alec speaks in hieroglyphs: unintelligible. "Greyhound Bus experience" and "50s gym teacher"? It's like he is from some parody planet where they only have TV and movies for information and experience. He's probably still popular, most people not caring and his employers smoking the same dope and drinking the same Kool-Aid with the guy.

The answer Greyhound is that Baldwin is an elite, racial, bigot, whether he admits it or not.

Baldwin, like so many elitist liberals has found a way to express racial bigotry and get away with it. The mainstream media is too elitist to realize that a great number of the riders of Greyhound are not as wealthy as they are and thus a large number of African Americans ride Greyhound as do I.

The quote included the description of the 1950's gym teacher as being a Catholic school gym teacher. Please quote correctly Mr. Johnson.

They don't slink back into oblivion (I wish)….the retreat to their multi-million dollar mansions, behind the gates of their exclusive community, with chefs and nannies and butlers on staff. Those are the people that let in the accountant to make sure guys like Baldwin get every possible tax deduction, all while complaining that "the rich" don't pay their fair share.

Kim LaCapria — Alec Baldwin is to Catholicism what Jerry Sandusky is to sex therapy.

So, Baldwin threw Greyhound under the bus?

Just another over medicated leftist elitist doing his thing.

I used to ride Greyhound alot… I'm sorry but it does suck. The bus drivers are all dicks, the stations are hell, and the schedules are ridiculous. It's a great way to travel on a budget, which is why I think the drivers act the way they do. If I had to deal with a bunch of ghetto assholes day and night, I'd probably be a miserable prick too. On the other hand, you don't get TSA agents fingering your butthole and dousing you with radiation on the buses. Yet. You give and take with all your choices in life, people.

Chris Chrisley Stop showing your ignorance. The word is MUSLIM.

Alec is an Alcoholic "has-been". It's got to be a pathetic feeling to be him.

He is willing to put down people who take a greyhound bus all while riding on a commercial airline. I am sure his crowd thinks he is a piker for not flying private. He is all for the occupy "movement" also yet he shills for a credit card company… Somewhere there is a dinner party missing it's idiot.

Now I know that Alec Baldwin and O.Vomit are both truly INSANE!

Edward Rochelle Can't compete? Quality carrier? Against whom? Greyhound is the only carrier in many many places.

Alec Baldwin is "a rude, thoughtless little pig." "(He doesn') have the brains or the decency as a human being". Finally! His words are accurate!

I bet it would boost sales if American Airlines banned Baldwin and then advertised ALL their flights as "Baldwin Free".

Alec is just another spoiled liberal idiot from La-La Land who thinks that anything between Hollyweird and NYC is "flyover country."

Although AB shouldn't have made reference to them in this dispute, I've had NOTHING but scary experiences on Greyhound over the past 20 years. Would love to make another choice. Each trip I'm in fear, and the smell just keeps getting worse.

… in the luggage compartment

BTW, this idiot wants to run as governor of Ohio? With NO previous governmental experience? Oh wait, the Dummycrats elected a complete and total loser named Barack Hussein Obama MMM! MMM! MMM! and he had no experience either. And WHAT a GREAT JOB he is doing huh? 50 MILLION Americans on food stamps.

Doug Wollan – Although with the constant delays and missed flights (I love arriving, only to have to sit on the tarmac for 45 minutes before being allowed to debark, and then having 5 minutes to get to a terminal in another zipcode to catch the next flight. Miss it, and you're outta luck…) the time crunch probably is nearly a wash!

All I want from celebrities (outside of a good performance) is a little humility and gratitude. Almost any waiter/actor in SoCal has talent. It takes a good dose of luck to be where Baldwin is.

Notice how MR Limo liberal attacks anyone who has a middle class, working man's job, whenever he gets angry. he always attacks Sean hannity as just a "construction worker" when he is angry with Sean. You stupid idiot Alex, you expose yourself as a true leftist elistist with these insults. It shows your true feelings for the poor and middle class.
Please run for office alex, I can't wait for republicans to pounce on your obvious hate for the middle class.

I don't think he should be spanked, he's probably like it too much.

Your comment is ill researched. There are plenty of viable regional alternatives for bus travel.

Edward Rochelle

Chris Chrisley CC great post you're my hero. Go Newt.

Kim LaCapria : Nancy Pelosi says she is a Catholic … but fights for Abortion. Just because your parents took you to Mass on Sunday does not make you a Catholic.

Edward Rochelle Name one

Edward Rochelle Culinary Institute of America? Chances are, you were stabbed by one of your own knives that slipped out of one of your own bags.

And being stabbed in Memphis has little to do with Greyhound but rather the demographic of the Delta South.

Where is an Air Marshall when you need one. This nit-wit needs touched with a Taser.
Alec is a low talent cry baby. And I wish they would take him off TCM, he adds nothing but pompous comments.

I've ridden on Greyhound buses more times than I can count across the Western United States, and I am constantly disappointed by the level of service the bus carrier provides. One trip in particular the company not just over-booked, but DOUBLE-BOOKED, an entire bus because they figured that "no-one would show up in the first place (actual quote from the station manager). The bus was so full when it reached our stop that no one at our station could board. There was no apologies, no refunds, no transfers, and no other buses that day. I ended taking a cab to Albany, OR. from Corvallis, OR. and getting an Amtrak commuter bus that was $5 cheaper, took 70 minutes to get to PDX, and was empty enough to stretch out in. Another time I had to sleep in the station in Sacramento because a bus was so late they re-routed it without telling anyone to save time. I would rather Craigslist rideshare, or a flex-car, or anything… anything other than a Greyhound Bus!

You are mistaken, it's still acceptable to offend Mormons too.

James Pogrebetsky Actually Moslem is an acceptable variant.

We think alike Mate!

I have a Capital One credit card, I contact Cap 1 and told them I am paying of the balance and cancelling the card as long as this elitist bastard advertise for them. This cry baby has gone to far and the public needs to make him feel the pain.

Kim LaCapria Catholic my ass, he could care less about god.

Alex! Wipe the dog-doo off your Gucci shoes and sit down (shutting up is a good idea too!). You just keep stepping in it.

I've traveled on Greyhound. There weren't any security checkpoints, no checking carry-on, no advisements to turn electronics off. They stop every couple hours to let people get something to eat or have a smoke.

And some people in NYC want this guy to run for mayor? Be careful what you wish for, New Yorkers. You might just get it. If he goes into a tizzy like this just because a flight attendant told him to put his toy away, imagine how he'll react in a real crisis as mayor!

Martin Schumacher That's what so-called 'secular' Catholics are like. Christians aren't supposed to be secular.

Edward Rochelle Did you deserve it?

Joel Farnham Maybe, but your swords point different directions, so you should be blood enemies.

Mr. Baldwin should be greatful about laws protecting his aligator mouth, and canary butt, albiet a 300 lb canary butt. In the opd days a gentleman would have slapped him down like the wussy he is.

John Angst I'm a Catholic who will hit back

Then I'll ask for forgiveness!

Baldwin's advances on the flight attendants were probably spurned and so he used the old tired ruse of attacking an entire religion (cowardly , but expected from the likes of him )…Baldwin a Catholic? I think not….They should be singing the song " Thank God and Greyhound He's Gone!" Oh wait , that liar didn't leave when he said he would…Why would anyone believe him?

If Baldwin was a Catholic, the confessional would be his residence. He's a pig.

imbeciles like him had "perfected" the #1 of Seven Deadly Sins – Pride (=arrogance).

They should have locked him in the bathroom and had the pilot do a few barrel rolls in flight. Baldwin is a puke who is past his useful time in any context. AA should sue him for schedule delay costs, fuel costs, and just general pain in the butt nonsense.

Kim LaCapria : he is a ginecologist-amateur with a crowd of female patients fading away…
HE IS AN ARROGANT OAF.

This member of The Vs "1%" is exactly what the neocom/socialist want to replace the civil society. The man has a history of degrading working men and women such as hotel workers, waiters, busgirls, construction workers, radio techs, clerks and a wide range of other what he considers "menial workers". He's not above abusing the people who work with him in entertainment, smacking around former wives and calling his young children disgusting pigs while at the same time threatening some obscure violence.
Mayor of New York – You're in like Flint Alec, with your neocom/socialist V(OWS) buddies cheering you on (Tina Faye twittering you her support?). Cause all of you are all about Stalinist thuggery.

Bottom line: Alec Baldwin is a no talent want to be actor. He has an anger management problem, and he thinks the world owes him something although he doesn't quite know what it is.

Edward Rochelle Chance are you would have been stabbed anyway – something about the person but, not the ride!!!

Really? They censored the story? Pathetic.

He is just a fool…. I would love him to #@$% with me I can help him learn respect.

I've taken Greyhound on some day trips recently, and it can be hit or miss. A newer bus where everything works is actually a pretty nice ride (depending on your fellow passengers). But if you get stuck on an older coach in a saggy seat right next to an old-fashioned pit toilet in a smelly bathroom where the light won't come on because the door doesn't lock–it's happened–then it can be a long ride.

I will say, though, that I've had many more good experiences than bad on Greyhound, and since they're constantly upgrading their fleet, I expect some of those old-school horror stories will be a little less common.

Ralph Andrew nothing like a man with two first names hahahaha!

caths are mostly ahos anyway..lets get behind idolatry..and make believe..much like the stock market..the invisible man is the answer…to EVERYTHING

I bet those Greyhound reps have never even ridden on a Greyhound bus lol.

It was a comparison, people. In fact, flying used to be fun. And elegant. Now it's more of a cattle car experience. At any rate, I also equate the current state of air travel with bus travel. Ugh. How many of you have ever been in a Greyhound bus station? They are foul.

Alec, put down the bottle and step away from the plane.

HA HA YEA I KNOW RIGHT GARRETT? HE IS AN ASS!! I CAN'T STAND THE GUY,PERIOD!

awww… but i liked beetlejuice (lol)

Greyhound should use a blown-up image of Alec Baldwin on the sides of their buses, with the caption, "Ride Greyhound, and avoid Alec Baldwin."

I CAN'T STAND THAT HIPPO!! HE NEEDS JENNY CRAIG FOR SURE.AND SOMEONE NEEDS TO WASH HIS MOUTH OFF WITH SOAP!

Alec Baldwin quotes: " To be in this business and have tremendous integrity and only make distiguished choices is very tough". " I don't get acting jobs because of my looks". " I wanted to be president of the United Stated. I really did. The older I get, the less preposterous the idea seems". "Actors are treated like suppositories that are inserted into cavities of the movie-going public". "For her to pin that on me is unfair. You think she was on the payroll of my ex-wife's divorce lawyer, pushing every button you could find"………. I think I'll go out and spend 10 bucks on an Alec Baldwin movie.

If Mr. Baldwin thinks 1st Class is like riding Greyhound, he should try to book Coach for a change…

Art House You got that right. Edward sounds like an East-Coast liberal a-hole snob that looks down his nose at people from "flyover country" and probably had it coming to him.

Alec Baldwin? Beetlejuice and The Shadow movies? Seriously? I thought he was dead. Wow.

He simply is one of the obama suporting Hollywood elite idots who think they are above all others.

Jay Phillips – Now why would you want to punish Greyhound's passengers?

Anastasia Sarames OK – I'll give you that one. —-

Fung Wah any better?

James Pogrebetsky thanks pal, but if I choose (I can still do that, right?) to use a epithet to describe the villainous refuse that took down our American Icons (i.e. Trade Center Towers) whilst killing many of my countrymen, I'll gladly do so – again, and again, and again. At least until one of your mooslim buddy's whack my head off. If that's not acceptable to you, then maybe you should exercise your right to not read it. In the meantime, go get your No. 2 pencil, your Big Chief tablet, and get back to your homework. But thanks anyway…

I read all 76 comments on this article about Baldwins experience on the American Air Flight. All I can say is that NONE of you have ever traveled a lot much less flown and if you took the bus it was probably 50 miles to Grandmas' house, because NONE of you have a clue about traveling. If you did you would know what went on with Baldwin is probably right, I think you all just wanted to beat up on Alec Baldwin. Get a life and get out of town. LOL

Douglas J. Bender OMG, that's a great plan. In the meantime, I'll just use SWA. I'm sure his pompous a$$ would never breach the doorway of that cabin. Too much riff raff for an elitist like this wife-beater.

Edward Rochelle really, you mean like "Jet Blu"? Also, regional carriers? Are you serious? What does one do if the so-call "regional carriers" won't take you across country (i.e. out of their region)? Are you just supposed to stop at the end of the line, and pick up a ticket for the next "regional carrier"? That's efficient, and not very time consuming at all. Oh, and I'm sure there won't be any knife wielding (wanna be) chefs…err, I mean criminals on that bus either right? Face is Ed, I think your comment falls in the ill-researched category; if there is such a thing…

Edward Rochelle said: " Ralph Andrew nothing like a man with two first names hahahaha!"

…you mean like: George Brett, Ray Charles, Jim Carey, Martin Luther, Dean Martin, Billy Joel, Dick Francis,
Anne Frank, Aretha Franklin, Jimmy Stewart, Diana Ross…etc, etc, etc. or maybe you'd better remember: Benedict Arnold, George Micheal, Ricky Martin, Andy Dick, or Barney Frank…either way, what's your point?

I dont think he was trying to offend Catholics…..The only person that would have experience with a 1950's Catholic School Gym Teacher would be a Catholic Student…….Sounds like it is his experience and he is reliving it….

Rob Tucker I was talking to the other people that have commented on this site and we very ugly I might add..at least I hope it got to them.

I meant say " they" were very ugly..sometimes I type too fast..lol

I've traveled a lot since 1998, & not just to NYC. As for Baldwin, he's known to be an ass a lot, so whatever he's accused of may have happened the way it's reported. Actors, even liberal ones, live in a bubble & are surrounded by yes men & women even more than politicians. Baldwin has a long history of anger management issues going back to his younger days. I don't really care what happened on that plane, but he & others like him should never be treated any different than you or I. The best thing for Alec to do is basically shut up, he's putting his foot in his mouth & isn't hurting either AA or Greyhound.

People don't need to be ugly anytime, they use the anonymity & freedom of the net to type things they wouldn't dare say in person.

Chris Chrisley religious intollerance is ugly no matter where it comes from. Those kinds of statements make you no better than a Taliban or IRA terrorist.

Chris Chrisley Watch it Chris. you are making too much sense. It would make a Libturd like Edward's head to explode.

Brittany E. Butts Religious Intolerance? You mean like the one that calls for the beheading of all those who don't believe the way they do? More brilliant academia insight. Please just drink your kol-aid, shut up and get back to your OWS-let's all hate America Rally! You're commentary has no impact on my opinion. Much like I'm sure mine has no impact on yours.

I wish I could like this twice!

…and you wouldn't be full-body x-rayed, fondled, or stolen from (of course, the last two would more than likely depend on who you sat next to).

Chris Chrisley Of course I have no impact on your opinion. When your opinion has no basis and is just plain ignorant there isn't really anything that can be done about it. I am a sailor in the US Navy and have been serving proudlly for over 12 years. Where you get this I hate America bull from, must be from your own butt. And where does it say that beheading of those who don't believe is the law in the Qur'an? It doesn't. You are getting your information from other hate mongers. Oh yeah, Christians have been doing that since the beginning. If you don't know that then you need to go pick up a history book. It's not the religion. It's the people. And when you don't know that or accept that, and insist on spreading hate you are a part of the problem, not the solution. There is no place for people like you in civilized society. It's not non believers who need to be beheaded. It's pieces of garbage like you who do. Have a nice day.

Jay PhillipsI dare Alec to come to Boston and ride the Fung Wah Bus to NYC. That will cure him! My son says "Fung Wah" is Chinese for, "So, nobody lives forever!"

Brittany E. Butts so now I should be beheaded? That's nice. While I do appreciate your service very much, please take a moment to explain these few excerpts from this "holy book":

**When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. – 47:4 – (different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.
**O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. – 9:73
**O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. – 8:65
**O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. – 5:54
**They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. – 9:111
**Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123
**The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. – 98:51

Religion of peace? I don't see it. But once again, sincerely, thanks for your sacrifice. God speed, Brittany

Chris Chrisley I don't have time to look for it in the Bible because I am at school. And I do not remember the passage about Joshua leading the Jews into Jericho and Ai where God instructed them to kill every single man, woman and child. Christians have been killing in the name of Christ and the Bible since the very beginning. By unbelievers God meant the people that would worship other than Him. (multiple gods, idols, etc.) The Qur'an acknowledges that the God of Islam, Christianity and Judaism is one in the same. There is an entire chapter of the Qur'an dedicated to Mary! Jesus is all throughout and is very important in Islam. Qur'an 2:62:Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. There are people who will make it very easy for you to find the things in the Qur'an that will feed hate, but do not bother to post things that contradict it. There is violence in the history of all of the Abrahamic faiths. Like I said before, it's the people, not the religion. Until we understand that intolerance followed by hate and violence is always going to be our future. One more thing. Westboro Baptist Church. Christians boycotting serviceman funerals. Do they represent you?

Brittany E. Butts which beginning? Speaking of history, there was Justin the Philosopher, a contemporary of Marcus Aurelius. He had been told that if someone successfully studied philosophy that they would be unafraid to die, however in spite of all his studies, he could not lose his fear of death.
One day, a friend of his invited him to she the spectacle at the Coluseum. There he saw a number of "Christians" that were being sacrificed, and to his surprise, when he looked at their faces when death was imminent, he saw that they were not afraid to die, which is what he had been looking for. Thus he converted to Christianity.
In view of this history. you comment doesn't really make any sense.

Kevin Pearson Chistians were being sacrificed and they later slaughtered others. The Crusades, the Native Americans, Africans during the diaspora. My comment makes plenty of sense. After the Spanish won their independence from Moorish rule, the first thing they did was send Colombus to the new world. What did he do? He began a series of events that involved the genocide of countless Native Americans. African slave trade that was unlike any other slave trade in history. If you don't believe that, google images "slave ship layout" and imagine being shackled in such a way that you are vomitting, moving your bowls and peeing in the very place you are sleeping. Ship life was hard if you were a free man! Saying that the Christians were sacrificed doesn't change what they did to people that they considered heathens. You tell me what the difference is!

Brittany E. Butts Later. You said "since the beginning" That disqualifies your statement. Later was after the Council of Nicea codified the Canon and established the organized religion that we know today. You have to clarify what you mean by "Christians"

Brittany E. Butts The African slaves were already slaves in Africa. That had to do with the other Africans, not Christians. 90-95% of the indigenous population was killed by the diseases that the Europeans brought with them not by some systematic plot to kill the population off.
The Spanish sent Columbus to find a new path to India and China, not to the New World, They did no know it was there to send him there. Even if they had not. eventually, improvements in transportation, technology and ship-building would have brought the Native Americans in contract with the Europeans, and the same diseases would have been initiated in the New World. It was going to happen eventually, even if it was a few centuries later and was done by a transoceanic airplane flight.

Your comment makes very little if any sense.

Kevin Pearson Haha! Ok, I give you that about the Christians. But what I said doesn't change. Many HAVE slaughtered in the name of Christ and the Bible. BUT…1. Not all Africans that were brought here were slaves. Many were kidnapped. 2.Slaves in many other parts of the world fared much better than those brought to the new world. They were able to earn their freedom, earn citizenship, keep their children, etc. The slaves that were part of the African diaspora had absolutely NO HOPE for any of this. 3. General Amherst gave Natives blankets infested with small pox. This was not an accident and I'm sure that it was not the only time this kind of thing happened. 4.No, the Spanish did not send Columbus to the new world. But they sure as heck did take part in the slave trade their afterward, didn't they? I said that his trip initiated all of that! I see that I could have worded my point better. But it doesn't change anything. 5. Maybe the slave traders didn't call themselves Christian, but I've heard it more than enough: "This country was founded on Christian values…blah blah blah." If this is true, even a little bit, 400+ years of slaves in the Americas were owned by Christians. 400+ years of having your children, your husband, your wife sold to other families to never be seen again. 400+ years of Christians whipping another human being to within an inch of his life. Lynchings. Raping. Is this what the Bible teaches? I don't think so. But I could be wrong. I haven't read the whole thing. Not nearly as much as the I have read the Qur'an. My only point has been that we all have a history of violence and there will always be people who are extremists with their own agendas. Using hate language to express your opinion about anything that you don't really understand only adds to the problem and makes you no better. I am not accusing you. It's just how this all started.

Kevin Pearson …and I suppose that forcing Native American's off of THEIR land in the name of "Manifest Destiny" and placing what is left of them into reservations as if the whole country isn't their reservation would have happened eventually, too? You're right, it would have happened eventually. But that's my point. Thanks for the help making it!

Brittany E. Butts That is BS. Trust me I understand much more than you.
It is well documented that many slaves, especially around New Orleans, earned money by working for persons other than their owners and saved enough money to buy their freedom. If I am not mistaken, it was part of Harriet Tubman's bio, that her owner gave her a price by which she could be free, and when she saved the money, he raised the price. If there was not such a possibility, this story would have never been told. Possibly Sojourner Truth had purchased her own freedom.
20 % of the population of antebellum New Orleans were Free Persons of Color; many had come from Haiti from the slave results there. And many of them were planters who owned slaves. There were over 3000 Free People of Color that were also slave owners in antebellum Louisiana. Yes, there were former slaves that owned slaves themselves. Slavery was not an issue of Christians "attacking" non-Christians.
I met a guy years ago who told me that he was from New Orleans, but I remarked that he had an Irish name not a Cajun one. and he told me, that when they built the levees in New Orleans, they brought in Irish to do the work, because the blacks were too valuable. Now if blacks, and I am assuming that he meant slaves, are too valuable to be used to build levees, then it would really be hard to imagine that such abuse was any where as prevalent as you claim.

The Native American population was already decimated by disease by the time that DeSoto had marched across North America. The first encounters with the Indians brought smallpox and measles from which the Indian had no immunity. The first explorers reported that the Indians lived in population centers, such as the present day, Saint Louis. However when the diseases arrived, these population centers became dead zones. By the time subsequent explorers had arrived, the Indians had fled from the population centers to the wilderness. in order to avoid the diseases and survive, and so the later explorers felt that the earlier accounts were essentially science fiction because they saw nothing of the Indians that resembled the first reports. And this happened long before any "General Amherst" arrived on the scene.
Harvard may be the oldest college in the United States, but there was another one planned for the Jamestown colony in Virginia that would have been pre-dated Harvard as the oldest college in the United States, but before plans were completed, the local Indians attacked the village and so the plans of opening the school that was to become the first college, was abandoned.

Slaves were brought to Charleston because the planters could not grow rice, but there were many slaves that had experience at growing rice in Africa. They brought slaves because they needed the expertise, not because their were Christians abusing non-Christians.

The Dutch only brought slaves to what is New York because they could not get any Dutchmen to be farmers in New Holland. The settlers wanted to get rich in the fur trade and retire to Holland (as did the Spanish, to this day, it is the dream of many a Latin American to get rich and move to Spain, to achieve their family's dream of over 15 generations.) They only brought slaves as a last resort when they could not get white men to stay in the New World. Not because they were Christians attacking non-Christians.

Obviously you are a liberal because you are completely incapable of stating facts or mathematics. Columbus' first arrival to the New World was in 1492. African Slaves were first sent to Brazil by the Portuguese sometime in the 16th century. Slavery was abolished in the United States in 1865, and in Brazil about 20 years later. That means that even including the earliest possible date of 1500 when Brazil was discovered (which the slave trade did not start that early), the longest possible period would have been about 385 years which is LESS than 400 years, not 400+. As always, facts escape liberals

Brittany E. Butts I forgot to talk about the slaves that were kidnapped by the Barbary pirates. Their primary goal in pirateering was to kidnap the people on board the ships – and on land, to make them slaves and ship them to North Africa. The only chance to earn their freedom was to have a huge and ever increasing ransom paid.
You should really try to learn from history before you try to comment on things that you are obviously ignorant about.

Kevin Pearson Did you really bring politics into this? I am a liberal because I can't get my facts straight? The Republicans have been screwing up this entire election period about everything, but somehow I am a liberal because I can't get my facts straight. Whatever. As long as it's less than 400 it's ok?

The Louisiana Purchase occured in 1803, 62 years before abolition. Let's see, that's 385-62=323 years of slavery without hope of freedom. You talk about the underground railroad as if it was an actual train that slaves were able to freely buy a ticket to board to get to their freedom. And white people were just letting them go. And it wasn't even established until the last decade of slavery. 385-10=375 years! Vermont was the first state to abolish slavery, in 1777. 88 years before 1865. 385-88=297 years before the first glimmer of hope. What's the distance between Ga and VT? Just asking.

You keep giving me reasons why they were brought here and there. Are you really justifying it? It's not just about Christians enslaving non-Christians. It's about Christians enslaving anyone. And if you think that slavery was a walk in the park, you really don't know anything but what the sons of former slave owners have told you. You don't think that lynching and raping didn't happen? You don't think slave women weren't giving birth in the fields? Did you know that in Jamaica, slave men were raped by white men so that they could take absolutely everything from them? First their freedom, then their families, then their manhood. If you don't believe these things, you are living in a faerietale world.

You said that they brought slaves to Charleston because blah blah blah. But they brought the Irish in to build the levies. Did they bring Irish slaves in to build the levies? Did they bring free Africans in to grow rice? The Dutch only brought African slaves in because they couldn't get other dutch to do it? Were those other Dutchmen going to be slaves, too? I mean, do you even hear yourself? You say "Only" as if you are justifying slavery. How is slavery a last resort? Why isn't paying Africans and letting them be free not a last resort? That's what they were going to do for the Dutch!

You say that the blacks were too valuable. It's because they were property!!!! Can you be this ignorant???? If you paid for something, it is of value to you. If you don't have to pay someone until after they have done the work, their life has no value to you. My, God, how old are you, 10?

And like I said before, my only argument was that "Using hate language to express your opinion about anything that you don't really understand only adds to the problem and makes you no better." But you argue me down about other things. But I guess that you have to be a "liberal" to be tolerant of others. And I guess you have to be garbage (note: not necessayrily conservative) to write a dissertation to justify slavery and the attempted genocide of Native Americans. I guess that you also think that the gas chambers in Nazi Germany were just saunas and the Jews shouldn't be complaining!

Brittany E. Butts Yes. Liberalism is a mental disorder. It is a failure to reason and think critically. I have observed this since high school. Their "politics" is just the effect, or the symptom, of their disorder.

Your further rantings continue to display this.

I never said it was "ok". I just pointed out that you just pulled numbers out of the blue and posted them as fact, when you were wrong. That is another symptom of the mental disorder of liberalism.

The "Christians" did not enslaved anyone. They were already slaves. It is revisionist history to say otherwise. But that is , again, another symptom of liberalism.

You say that you are a sailor in the US Navy. Do you understand that you are PROPERTY of the US Government?

I am not justifying anything, I am just pointing out how insipid your premise about Christians is. And I refuse to identify myself as a Christian. I am more of a Gnostic, which Christians have reviled since at least A.D 180. However, I could not just stand by and allow you to spew your inane blather.

Kevin Pearson You justified slavery with every statement you made. You gave a reason for slavery all throughout your statement. And in your final statement you said that Christians didn't enslave anyone and they themselves are slaves. So what you are saying is that nobody in Americas EVER in the history of American slavery was a Christian? Yes, I know that I am property of the US Government! Duh! I read my contract. That is why they have rules that are supposed to keep us safe until we go to battle. You said that Christians have reviled gnostics since 180 AD. That was my point in the first place. You only read what you want. I said there are people of ALL religions and walks of life who have violent, hateful histories. USING HATEFUL LANGUAGE TO DESCRIBE SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE LITTLE TO NO KNOWLEDGE OF JUST ADDS TO THE PROBLEM, IT DOES NOT SOLVE IT. Nothing that you have said or that I have said changes that. Just like a "conservative." Only takes a portion of something someone says and ignores the main point!

Brittany E. Butts What I said, is that whatever slaves any "Christians" may have owned, were already slaves in Africa, and if the had not been shipped to the New World, they probably still would be.
Christians did not go to Africa and kidnap slaves. On the contrary, AFRICANS went to Europe and kidnapped "CHRISTIANS". For this reason, large parts of the Mediterranean coast were uninhabited for centuries because of the threat of raid of Barbary pirates.
"According to John K. Thornton, Europeans usually bought enslaved people who were captured in endemic warfare between African states.[19] There were also Africans who had made a business out of capturing Africans from neighboring ethnic groups or war captives and selling them.[20] Thornton says that Europeans provided a large new market for an already existing trade.[21] " Africa and Africans in the Making of the Atlantic World, 1400–1800 (Second edition). New York: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 9780521622172.

I have at least presented facts. All you have done is just make wild allegations that you expect everyone to accept as fact just because you say it. It is obvious that you have little knowledge of what you are talking about, other than the racist propaganda that you have been fed.

You said 400+ years, which is mathematically impossible.

You said "2.Slaves in many other parts of the world fared much better than those brought to the new world. They were able to earn their freedom, earn citizenship, keep their children, etc. The slaves that were part of the African diaspora had absolutely NO HOPE for any of this. " Have you ever heard of Liberia? A colony that was created for the repatriation of freed slaves. If they had no hope of earning their freedom, then Liberia would never have a reason to exist.
George Washington himself willed freedom for his own slaves upon Martha's death. So that invalidates your statement that they had no Hope of Freedom.

Kevin Pearson You have studied some history from one source, I have studied history on the subject from other sources. I went to a University (Howard) with classes and large portions of its library dedicated to the subject. I have accepted that I got my years wrong. I used the years that you gave me in many of my points. What do your sources say about the slaves that had all of this hope that you seem to think that were had dogs set on them? The ones who were shot or hung for trying to escape? NEARLY 400 years of slavery and on three continents a few thousand were sent back to Africa (1820, 385-45=340 years) rather than giving them citizenship in the country that they helped build through free labor! Theoretically, that was a nice idea. But if I help you build a city, and I was forced to do it for free, for18 hours a day, sometimes shackled, sometimes whipped. And then rather than give me the right to live freely in that city where I, my husband and children worked so hard to build for you, you send me somewhere else and tell me to build there? You are giving me examples that loosely prove your point, but they are still really shoddy.

I've taken a lot of language classes which involves the study of cultures of the countries that speak those languages. I have taken Greek Mythology which involves the study of western civ. I grew up in the US where European history is taught more than African American history. I have never heard of this hundreds of years of uninhabited Med coast. Not denying it. I don't know. But you sure do like to paint a picture of Europeans being innocent bystanders in all of this.

George Washington educated and freed his slaves. I know this. But the numbers of slaves over the course of nearly 400 years compared to the handfull that you state in your examples does not add up to true freedom. And after freedom African Americans still had to deal with being treated like second class citizens in a country that they built, for free, because, as you put it, nobody else felt like doing it, so they didn't have a choice but to get slaves! (Can you believe this guy?)

And how in the heck is it racist propaganda???? Are you serious??? How is it racist for me to say that white people owned black slaves? No matter what facts that you have or that I have this does not change!! You, by calling my statements racist just continually justify slavery. Have you seen the layout of a slave ship? Do you have any idea how hard life was on a ship (still is for that matter) for free men who were allowed to walk about the boat? The slaves were shackled to shelves in a cargo hold. They had to pee and defecate and vomit on themselves and each other because they were not free to get up. Why do you think slavery here was such a faerie tale?

You are a racist because you keep justifying it. If George Washington had any real interest in the well being of the slave population he would have abolished slavery. Don't give me that shat about what he did for his slaves. It means nothing in the grand scheme of things. George Washington died in 1799. 1865-1799=66 years of slaves who were not affected by your so called hope from president George Washington. AND if he freed them when before he died that is 385-1=384 years of slavery without any hope of freedom. Yeah! The slaves at the Washington plantation were freed! Make sure that you tell all of the news channels, make sure that it gets on the internet and in the newspapers so that ALL the slaves would know about it so that they too could have hope. Oh yeah! There was no tv or internet. And the slaves were not allowed to learn to read. (accept for the handful who had to hide it because it could get them seriously punished!) So forget about the newspapers! And I am so sure that slave masters were letting their own slaves know that there were slaves being freed elsewhere. Yeah, plenty of hope there!

This is American history. Stating it has nothing to do with racism. No matter what facts you come up with about it, it existed and it was not something that should be justified in anyway, first of all. And second, the majority of the US population has always been some form of Christianity. So for you to say that Christians didn't enslave African Americans makes you a bigger idiot than I have ever known. If everyone is a Christian, then anyone who has a slave is a Christian enslaving someone. And whether they took part in the trade, if they treated their slaves with dignity, whether refrained from selling their children off to other people, they are still part of a system that treated other human beings as chattel. And no matter whose book you quote YOU CAN"T CHANGE THAT!! I mean what is this revisionist crap you're talking about. You said it yourself, GW freed his slaves. Sojourner Truth bought her freedom. People were sent to Liberia. If you didn't free your slaves you continued to enslave them. If you did not pay them for their work, you enslaved them. You're so full of contradictory shat your eyes are brown!

Kevin Pearson And once again, you continue to prove my original point which you, for some reason choose to ignore. Everyone, everywhere all throughout history has something violent, hateful in their history. I know about African pirates. They're still around. We were fighting them long before they reached the news! It doesn't change anything that I said. My point was that using hateful language to describe someone that you know nothing about based on your own ignorance just makes you part of the problem. Calling Muslims rag heads and saying that they stabbed and cut their way to the virgin promised land maybe on the surface seemed like just a joke. But he said it based on what little he knows about the Qur'an. Some stuff that some other racists posted. If you only read a couple of chapters of the Bible you, too, can get the impression that Christianity and Judaism are violent horrible religions. If you only take the words of some crazy extremists who are boycotting a serviceman's funeral you, too, would think that Christians are the craziest bunch of wankers in the world! But you don't take things out of context (unless of course you are a republican) and judge people on your limited knowledge of them. Knowledge you got from others whose only agenda is spreading hate. It's stupid. It's not the solution. It increases the problem and makes you no different from the ones that we call terrorists. Spreading hate is spreading hate.

DO NOT EVER USE THE WORD 'HUNDO' AGAIN. Who are you Lurgio??!?