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Gun Control: Chicago Law Limits Firearms Buys And Adds Videotaped Transactions

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Gun control laws in Chicago just got even more restrictive. The city with both some of the most stringent gun laws in the nation and among the highest gun violence rates, passed a new ordinance to limit firearms purchase and added a videotape mandate to all buys.

Chicago lawmakers gave preliminary approval to a new gun control law that restricts handgun purchases to one per month, added a records storage requirement, and restricted areas where firearms stores can be located. The Chicago gun control law comes on the heels of a federal court ruling that deemed it unconstitutional for the city to ban all gun sales. Second Amendment advocates and gun rights group staunchly opposed weapons laws in the Illinois city.

Instead of simply revoking the gun ban deemed as an infringement upon Second Amendment rights, Chicago officials decided to “craft rules that comply with the court order, yet still make it nearly impossible to buy a gun within city limits,” the Chicago Business Journal reports.

The new gun control ordinance in Chicago also requires a 72-hour waiting period for the purchase of handguns and a 24-hour waiting period to buy a shotgun or a rifle. Gun stores will soon be required to keep extensive records pertaining to gun purchases and the documents will be inspected quarterly.

Chicago Council Public Safety Committee Chair Alderman James Balcer said, “The courts have ruled we had to do this so we did it and I think it’s a common sense approach. It is well-crafted and it’s good.” Alderman Ameya Pawar appears to agree with her peer and called on other towns in the area that permit gun sales to “step up” and pass more restrictive ordinances on firearms transactions.

Pawar also had this to say about the new Chicago gun control laws:

“I want to know why the county isn’t stepping up. Why aren’t they here? Why aren’t they introducing a similar ordinance? It’s easy to throw darts at Chicago and say we’ve got a gun problem and we’ve got a murder problem when the guns are coming from outside Chicago.”

Those opposed to the new gun ordinance are quick to note that guns can still be ordered online and that the vast majority of the gun violence committed in the city stems from illegal guns.

Rahm Emanual, the mayor of Chicago, is being “credited” with being the driving force behind the new gun control law in the city. The ordinance reportedly follows Emanuel’s 2013 proposal to utilize zoning laws to prevent gun stores from opening within 500 feet of a park or school.

The full city council is expected to quickly pass the ordinance next week. Although gun rights advocates did not attempt to debate the issue during public meetings, Second Amendment groups are expected to challenge the new Chicago gun control law in court after it is formally passed.

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110 Responses to “Gun Control: Chicago Law Limits Firearms Buys And Adds Videotaped Transactions”

  1. Anonymous

    You CANNOT just order a gun online legally without going through s licensed FFL dealer. Ally ou doing is making a law abiding person jump through hoops to exercise their rights. Typical and sad but no surprise that they think this will help. It won't.

  2. James Dunn

    They kinda summed up their problem in the story. Bad guys guns come from outside, and nothing they are doing does anything but hamstring law abiding citizens. The thugs just buy one from illegal sources and bypass all the paper and b.s. Are they really so stupid they can't see this or is this irrelevant to them as it isn't in the Democrat's agenda – gee, let me guess!

  3. Robert Schnebelen

    —–Criminals & thugs don't buy their guns from gun stores! This is all about Democrats still trying to disarm their constituents as they have since the Civil War! They obviously think it's the only way to stay in power…..they really do fear the people running through the streets brandishing pitchforks and torches….the fear never ends with these people!

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  4. Bob Anderson

    Probably criminals will be able to get copies of the video transactions so they will know which houses to break into. Talk about being asanine.!! Instead of trying to protect the citizens they are SUPPOSED to be serving, they instead are trying to create an atmosphere where criminals have nothing to fear while "takin care of business."

  5. JO Taylor

    It would almost be funny if it were not so pathetic and maddening how the anti-gun pearl-clutchers seem to think that compromising the ability of decent law-abiding citizens to exercise their inherent right to self defense from thugs and killers is somehow a "progressive" position. It's nothing of the sort, it's ignorance and stupidity.

  6. Mark Desman

    Another piece of the Bill of Rights crumbles off, as usual to no avail. The manufacture of firearms is a known technology and a good machinist could build a relatively sophisticated one. This law effectively puts Chicago gun dealers out of business (Emmanuel's real aim), but leaves the doors wide open for a thriving black market to continue arming the criminal element, keeping Chicago atop the heap as the murder capital of the country!

  7. Anonymous

    Why is the city of Chicago protecting the murdering gang bangers by making it so difficult for law abiding citizens to defend themselves? Are the gangs in Chicago bribing the politicians in that city? Like the mob did during prohibition?

  8. Larkin Rakes

    just to be understood it is not "gun control" it is gun PROHIBITION.

    the reason the rest of the Nation does not do the same things, are that the nation does not want to be like Chicago. we want to be the land of the free, with the rights that are given by the creator. Chicago is the land of tyranny and big government. where the sheeple live and graze. so as long as their masters want

  9. Chris Clark

    ok…so the guns are coming from outside of the city so lets mess up legal sales inside the city?,,,who th hell came up with that?..and even ore sad…who are the retards that support it?….and honestly…a gun store next to a school is better than a crackhouse….

  10. Jeffrey Keeton

    Criminals and the 5 families wish to thank to morons of Chicago for making their lives and livelihoods much easier now that they have turned citizens into targets.

  11. Daniel McCuan

    "Those opposed to the new gun ordinance are quick to note that guns can still be ordered online and that the vast majority of the gun violence committed in the city stems from illegal guns."

    You can not buy guns online. You can order them and have them shipped to a FFL dealer that then does a background check. Before they sell you the gun. Stop lying to the public.

  12. Emilio Marcos

    With all those restrains, the killing continues in Chicago. Several people are killed every night in spite of the toughest gun control. Typical of Socialists that want the population disarmed, with no chance at taking arms against the government.

  13. Travis Decker

    Chicago doesn't have a gun or murder problem. It has a PEOPLE problem.
    This article states that they are going to video tape purchases and then says the guns are coming from outside of the state. So they are saying this law does absolutely nothing.

  14. Jonathan W. Helms

    The idiots want a free fire zone and they have it in Chicago ….. If the people would just build a large fence around it. That would let the gangbangers and criminals have their own place….

  15. Chris Hafner

    More ass-backward liberal logic from the anti-gun left when it comes to illegal guns. I'm sure all these so called gang-bangers purchase their guns legally in the first place.

  16. Sherri Krosnowski

    Hopefully these measures will deter the gun violence in Chicago. Maybe knowing they are being videotaped may stop even ONE gun related death.

  17. Anonymous

    It's too bad that nobody in Chicago buys guns, THEY STEAL THEM…………

  18. John R Pyles

    Remember that once world class city of Chicago, Illinois yeah that one, in a few short years the political machine has all but erased it from the world stage. except for the violence and misery it has given her citizens. and her citizens deserve better.

  19. Dennis Gobule

    Well they don't call it (S)HI(T)CAGO for nothing !!! That's because only (S)HI(T) comes out of there !!! Look at the TURD we have holding our white house hostage !!!! PROOF !!!!

  20. Anonymous

    Gun control in Chicago is hitting what you are shooting at , The #1 city for shootings so anything they have tried has failed.

  21. Anonymous

    Remember when Eric Holder came out against voter I.D. with the argument that it disenfranchises voters who cannot get to a location in order to obtain an I.D.? Well, doesn't Chicago's new firearms law disenfranchise people who want to obtain a firearm for protection but cannot get to one of the few locations in Chicago to purchase one?

  22. Jayne N. Montana

    yes you can buy guns online, many people belong to gun groups that sell online, you need a FFL if you are sending it out of state…

  23. Clyde Glyde

    the cat has been out of the bag for a long time.gun grabbin nuts know these laws do no good.they are after complete confiscation to protect the elite from an uprising.

  24. Gregory R. Garrett

    You can not buy a gun and have it delivered to your doorstep. You can buy it online but it has to be sent to a gun dealer with his FFL. You will then go fill out all the paperwork you normally would before the dealer will give you the gun.

  25. John Patrick Mullan

    I am sure that all the gangbangers are very concerned about these new laws. What a joke.

  26. Castaldi Tim Kelly

    The only reason they are doing this is because they can change laws at the flick of a pen, and we can scream ad yell, but law aiding citizens seem to want to obey the law…. when the real problem is the gangs who get their guns from other criminals or steal them from legal owners… these so called officials are cowards… they think they are fixing a problem, what a joke, they have the toughest gun laws going, an still have the highest crime rate… you don't have to be smart to figure this one out….

  27. Castaldi Tim Kelly

    The only reason they are doing this is because they can change laws at the flick of a pen, and we can scream ad yell, but law aiding citizens seem to want to obey the law…. when the real problem is the gangs who get their guns from other criminals or steal them from legal owners… these so called officials are cowards… they think they are fixing a problem, what a joke, they have the toughest gun laws going, an still have the highest crime rate… you don't have to be smart to figure this one out….

  28. Sean Donald

    Quit worrying about the ones that can buy Guns and face the camera, And worry about the ones that cant face the camera. Did you know there are more guns bought on the streets than in gun shops..

  29. Anonymous

    Gregory R. Garrett for in-state "online sales" depending on the state and the laws on private sales, you can find the gun online and meet in person to buy it, with no paperwork.

  30. Anonymous

    How about Chicago videotaping the criminals shooting people, robbing stores, carjacking, raping, looting, pillaging… oh wait, those are the Democrat politicians.

  31. Phil Wild

    gravebane525 – True, you can search online and then meet in person (non-commercial transaction) but that is not an online purchase of a firearm. All online purchases must be done by an FFL.

  32. Ric Reuscher

    That's right, stupid Chicago politicians – keep writing more gun laws and keep counting the bodies. It's not the guns – it's the criminals and insane people. Politicians are worthless parasites.

  33. Anonymous

    Sites like Armslist allows private individuals to sell to other private individuals without having to go through a FFL or a background check.

  34. Michael Reigard

    Baaaaaa.. go the Sheep!! as they take another beating.

  35. Anonymous

    " and restricted areas where firearms stores can be located."
    Can you see this headed to court?
    How do you deny Second Amendment protection to specific parts of a city?

  36. Jim Christine Taylor

    Thankfully, this law will curb all of the illegal gun sales and violence. Wait, what?

  37. Anonymous

    How many law abiding citizens are in prison? How many federal employees from this part of the country have followed the laws? Anybody seen my emails?

  38. Anonymous

    How many law abiding citizens are in prison? How many federal employees from this part of the country have followed the laws? Anybody seen my emails?

  39. Anonymous

    Jayne N. Montana : Yes you may order and pay for a gun online, but the gun will be sent to a FFL dealer that you specify, where the NICS background check (and any State-required checks) are done.

  40. Anonymous

    Jayne N. Montana : Yes you may order and pay for a gun online, but the gun will be sent to a FFL dealer that you specify, where the NICS background check (and any State-required checks) are done.

  41. Anonymous

    gravebane525 , THEN IT IS NOT AN "ONLINE " SALE THEN IS IT?

  42. Danny Wright

    This is not gun control ,this is just another assault on the rights of fthe decent citizens of Chicago, it has nothing to do with protecting the people it's about confiscating all the guns Emanule doesn't care he's got a whole slew of armed bodytguards.Vote these people out

  43. Anonymous

    There they go again, lying about ordering guns online.

    I hope the judge who struck down their old law hears the case against the new one, and puts them all in jail for contempt.

  44. Tim Baughman

    Sadly these moron's still don't get it. Bad guys wont get a gun through legal means. They never have & never will. But facts & truths have little sway with the moronic, Intentionally stupid, brain dead gun hater. It's all about feeling warm & fuzzy with no accountability for their actions. In other words shear stupidity.

  45. Anonymous

    crimsondrac NO THEY DON'T, THAT IS A LIE. Every sale across state lines MUST go to an FFL. Ask me how I KNOW

  46. Anonymous

    crimsondrac NO THEY DON'T, THAT IS A LIE. Every sale across state lines MUST go to an FFL. Ask me how I KNOW

  47. Larry Cowden

    It is past time to clean house the hard way in Chicago! Those like the mayor and council members must be forcibly removed and replaced with a common core of politicians that will end that BS and restore gun rights to the citizens. People are dying everyday there and these polecats are proud of it and doing what they can to increase the kill numbers as long as they aren't the targets! Time for them to be!

  48. Dave Jones

    Should we repeal speeding laws because some people still drive too fast? Should we repeal shoplifting laws, because some people still steal? should we legalize murder, becase murders will no obey laws forbidding murder?

  49. Ralph Saxe

    Dave Jones Typical libtard prattle. please perform a late term abortion on yourself.

  50. Sean Geer

    Criminals buy guns in the black market and not in the store. Such morons.

  51. Andrew Williams

    Such a pity that a relative few can , with the stroke of a pen, infringe upon the Constitutional rights of millions of people. This is an unacceptable use of power by one small group of politicians who are hell bent upon inflicting their views upon everybody else. Today Chicago. Tomorrow the rest of the country! This has got to stop!

  52. Derik Keeslar

    gravebane525, this is only for long guns. Anywhere in the country you need a purchase permit to buy a handgun. No exceptions

  53. Anonymous

    The county isn't stepping up, because, like good law abiding citizens, they are taking their que from the supreme court. They are not a bunch of arrogant wrecktums, like the ones running Chicago. It would be nice if the supreme court came back to the city and fined them a few (20-30) million dollars for contempt of court.

  54. Darren Graham

    Dave Jones Irrelevant. History and facts have proven that debate wrong.

  55. Thinker Rational

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    HARVARD STUDY: GUN CONTROL IS IRRELEVANT
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    “WOULD BANNING FIREARMS REDUCE MURDER AND SUICIDE? A REVIEW OF INTERNATIONAL AND SOME
    DOMESTIC EVIDENCE”, by Kates and Mauser.
    HARVARD JOURNAL OF LAW & PUBLIC POLICY [Vol.30 No. 2]:
    The cited article has reviewed a significant amount of evidence from a wide variety of international sources. In this research paper you’ll find that there are countries with:
    - High gun control and low gun violence like Japan
    - High gun control and high gun violence like Mexico
    - Low gun control and low gun violence like Austria
    - Low gun control and high gun violence like Panama
    The main conclusion is: The level of gun control (low or high) is ***irrelevant*** to determine the level of violence in general and gun violence in particular.
    Thus, if gun control is irrelevant, we need to find the real causes of violence in general and gun violence in particular if we want to find real solutions to the problem instead of quick but wrong “feel good” legislation that solves nothing but violates freedom and the US Constitution.
    The relevant question for the USA is **not**:
    - Why there are high gun control countries with high gun violence like Mexico? (It could be explained by weak governments in most cases)
    The relevant question for the USA **is**:
    - Why there are low gun control countries with low gun violence like Austria, Switzerland and the Czech Republic? (In other words, what can the USA learn from the experience these countries to formulate policy and laws that respect the US Constitution and keep violence low?)
    Statistics indicate that most gun violence in the USA is committed in poor neighborhoods and it is related to drug trafficking. In fact, the FBI estimates that between 70-80% murders are the result of inner city gang violence. Other relevant percentage is committed in middle class neighborhoods by people who want money to buy drugs and/or is intoxicated.
    Much less than 0.05% is committed by crazy lunatics in a killing frenzy. For example, regarding school shootings, out of 50 million K-12 students, 26 were killed in school shootings in 2013, a rate of 0.00005%, 70X less than the gun murder rate in the US (100%*11,200 murders / 316 million people). Contrast this to 7,500 drunk driving deaths, and 2,400 suicides. However, shootings represent the kind of violence that gets the biggest media coverage and is used and abused by gun control activists to push their agenda.
    In fact, gun-control advocates use dirty-tactics like tragedy exploitation, misplaced blame, sympathy-mongering, media manipulation, emotional pleas and pre-packaged propaganda in lieu of rational, logical, level-headed thinking. They are immune to reason and cherry-pick their “data” and play no attention to the conclusions of serious research like the HARVARD paper mentioned here.
    The gun control zealots argue that nobody wants to ban guns, only to properly regulate them to “protect the children and the innocent”. But this is just propaganda. If we check the facts we find that:
    - Automatic weapons are practically inaccessible for civilians unless you’re very rich to buy pre-ban weapons and pay the stamp.
    - There are banned guns and accessories in CA, NY, NJ, CO and CT
    - Guns are banned in NYC, DC, and they were banned in Chicago until recently because the city was sued and the Supreme Court ruled against the handgun ban
    - During the Clinton years “assault” rifles were banned
    - Clinton also tried to ban “sniper” rifles (which by his definition would be anything with a scope, even .22 rifles)
    - Obama and Senator Dianne Feinstein also tried to pass an “assault” rifles ban
    - There have been recent confiscations of guns in CN due to new gun laws
    - During the Katrina emergency, guns were confiscated in New Orleans.
    - Obama has abused his executive power (bypassing the democratic process) to change the financial classification of gun firms to “high risk” businesses (as porn and drug paraphernalia shops) to make for them more difficult to get credit lines and to increase their insurance rates. This is part of the highly controversial “Operation Choke Point” of the Justice Department. This operation is controversial for the potential threat to due process; the government is pressuring the financial industry to cut off the companies' access to banking services, without first having shown that the targeted companies are violating the law. In fact, many institutions like the Bank of America have recently dropped all of its clients in the gun industry for this reason.
    - Obama made illegal to import cheap Russian surplus 5.45×39 ammunition, making more expensive and less attractive to buy and use AK rifles.
    - If you check international trends, in UK and Australia, the gun control zealots got their way and banned and confiscated most guns and are now severely restricted to the point that they can no longer be considered available tools for self-defense or to confront the tyranny of the State.
    Make no mistake:
    If gun control zealots could, they would go for full gun banning.

  56. Thinker Rational

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    HARVARD STUDY: GUN CONTROL IS IRRELEVANT
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    “WOULD BANNING FIREARMS REDUCE MURDER AND SUICIDE? A REVIEW OF INTERNATIONAL AND SOME
    DOMESTIC EVIDENCE”, by Kates and Mauser.
    HARVARD JOURNAL OF LAW & PUBLIC POLICY [Vol.30 No. 2]:
    The cited article has reviewed a significant amount of evidence from a wide variety of international sources. In this research paper you’ll find that there are countries with:
    - High gun control and low gun violence like Japan
    - High gun control and high gun violence like Mexico
    - Low gun control and low gun violence like Austria
    - Low gun control and high gun violence like Panama
    The main conclusion is: The level of gun control (low or high) is ***irrelevant*** to determine the level of violence in general and gun violence in particular.
    Thus, if gun control is irrelevant, we need to find the real causes of violence in general and gun violence in particular if we want to find real solutions to the problem instead of quick but wrong “feel good” legislation that solves nothing but violates freedom and the US Constitution.
    The relevant question for the USA is **not**:
    - Why there are high gun control countries with high gun violence like Mexico? (It could be explained by weak governments in most cases)
    The relevant question for the USA **is**:
    - Why there are low gun control countries with low gun violence like Austria, Switzerland and the Czech Republic? (In other words, what can the USA learn from the experience these countries to formulate policy and laws that respect the US Constitution and keep violence low?)
    Statistics indicate that most gun violence in the USA is committed in poor neighborhoods and it is related to drug trafficking. In fact, the FBI estimates that between 70-80% murders are the result of inner city gang violence. Other relevant percentage is committed in middle class neighborhoods by people who want money to buy drugs and/or is intoxicated.
    Much less than 0.05% is committed by crazy lunatics in a killing frenzy. For example, regarding school shootings, out of 50 million K-12 students, 26 were killed in school shootings in 2013, a rate of 0.00005%, 70X less than the gun murder rate in the US (100%*11,200 murders / 316 million people). Contrast this to 7,500 drunk driving deaths, and 2,400 suicides. However, shootings represent the kind of violence that gets the biggest media coverage and is used and abused by gun control activists to push their agenda.
    In fact, gun-control advocates use dirty-tactics like tragedy exploitation, misplaced blame, sympathy-mongering, media manipulation, emotional pleas and pre-packaged propaganda in lieu of rational, logical, level-headed thinking. They are immune to reason and cherry-pick their “data” and play no attention to the conclusions of serious research like the HARVARD paper mentioned here.
    The gun control zealots argue that nobody wants to ban guns, only to properly regulate them to “protect the children and the innocent”. But this is just propaganda. If we check the facts we find that:
    - Automatic weapons are practically inaccessible for civilians unless you’re very rich to buy pre-ban weapons and pay the stamp.
    - There are banned guns and accessories in CA, NY, NJ, CO and CT
    - Guns are banned in NYC, DC, and they were banned in Chicago until recently because the city was sued and the Supreme Court ruled against the handgun ban
    - During the Clinton years “assault” rifles were banned
    - Clinton also tried to ban “sniper” rifles (which by his definition would be anything with a scope, even .22 rifles)
    - Obama and Senator Dianne Feinstein also tried to pass an “assault” rifles ban
    - There have been recent confiscations of guns in CN due to new gun laws
    - During the Katrina emergency, guns were confiscated in New Orleans.
    - Obama has abused his executive power (bypassing the democratic process) to change the financial classification of gun firms to “high risk” businesses (as porn and drug paraphernalia shops) to make for them more difficult to get credit lines and to increase their insurance rates. This is part of the highly controversial “Operation Choke Point” of the Justice Department. This operation is controversial for the potential threat to due process; the government is pressuring the financial industry to cut off the companies' access to banking services, without first having shown that the targeted companies are violating the law. In fact, many institutions like the Bank of America have recently dropped all of its clients in the gun industry for this reason.
    - Obama made illegal to import cheap Russian surplus 5.45×39 ammunition, making more expensive and less attractive to buy and use AK rifles.
    - If you check international trends, in UK and Australia, the gun control zealots got their way and banned and confiscated most guns and are now severely restricted to the point that they can no longer be considered available tools for self-defense or to confront the tyranny of the State.
    Make no mistake:
    If gun control zealots could, they would go for full gun banning.

  57. Warner Delashmutt

    in illinios even if you sell to someone you met online you still have to get a confirmation of their foid card from the state police and wait 1 day before making the exchange . every person in illinios has to have a foid card to own a gun or ammo and some pellet rifles also require a foid card i already passed a nics check when i applied for my foid card. why should i haveto pass it again when i go to purchase a gun ?

  58. Dennis Clardy

    Dave Jones : The law does not prosecute me or my car, when my neighbor speeds, drives drunk, or mows down a group of school children. However, this seems to be the logic used by the left. We are attempting to use criminal behavior as a standard to regulate law-abiding citizens. Do we perform body cavity searches on every customer entering a Walmart, due to a rise in shoplifting? Of course not, because the majority of customers are law-abiding citizens.

  59. Dennis Clardy

    Most definitely, but did you notice they are already looking to blame other states for not tightening their laws and regulations? They know it will fail, so they need a scapegoat and someone to point the finger at. Liberal logic is so flawed!

  60. John P. Dydalowicz

    Chicago and its mayor need to be taken off the map

  61. Carol Green-Davis

    So the city with the highest gun crime rate has the most restrictive gun laws, And the City's with the least restive laws have the lower gun crime rates….seems like a pattern here…….

  62. Dennis Clardy

    gravebane525 : As well as Craigslist, local newspapers, and many other buy/sale/trade publications. They want to regulate PRIVATE sales, which are already regulated, laws in place, and been that way since the late 60s. There are definitely requirements for performing a private transfer and IF those are not followed, you are indeed a criminal. As I said before, the laws are already in place and been there for a very long time.

  63. Doc Chapman

    Dave,
    I am not sure there is an actual law for speeding. We pay fines true but am not sure there is truly a law that is set up for speeding
    The other comments do not warrant comment because even you know those were foolish remarks

  64. Doc Chapman

    I do not understand how intelligent people can set down and read a bill/law/ordnance or what ever you wish to call it and really believe it makes any sense and will do anygood

  65. Richard Russ

    @Dave Jones, really is that he best argument you have. No study has EVER concluded that gun control legislation has had any impact on gun violence with the exception of Gun Free Zones have proven to INCREASE gun violence. Any law that does not help is a hindrance. Gun ownership is RIGHT. Driving a car is a privilege. Learn the difference.

  66. Shinsumai Knight

    do we pass new restriction on murder, do we pass new restrictions on speeding, do we pass new restrictions on shoplifting I think not we change the time to server and we change cost of doing such acts but they are still against the law Dave jones, the Right to bear arms was to keep this country free and for the people to defended there freedoms they're selves, For if you give up your freedoms like you have done for my generate We can not get them back so easily we will fall like roman to a dictator, and our country will be plagued by civil war that this world has never seen

  67. Shinsumai Knight

    ya your right they did quickly blame other states did any one read about the Mexicans for the first time in ten years a drug cartel beaten mexcan legalized guns to its civilians and the drug cartel ran

  68. Sean Scuba

    Dave Jones I vote for that, most traffic laws are money makers for the state and local governments. In California they are ignored unless you can see a cop or there is too much traffic.

  69. Joe Leone

    Dave Jones please point out how many crimes have been stopped by the thousands of gun laws already on the books

  70. Terry Quinley

    You completely miss the point. Driving laws are enforceable only when the person is caught. Same with the armed criminal, only when caught. I would rather have sombody speed past me than shoot at me.

  71. Dave Olsen

    I think we should repeal the voting rights of people like Dave Jones.

  72. Dave Olsen

    I think its time for the law abiding citizens of Chicago to stand up to these thugs who supposedly represent their interests. Time to run the mayor and city council out of town 19th century style!

  73. Dustyn Polk

    Let me get this straight… you are advocating the revocation of federal voting rights for someone, or a group of people, that simply don't agree with your stance…

  74. Dustyn Polk

    Let me get this straight… you are advocating the revocation of federal voting rights for someone, or a group of people, that simply don't agree with your stance…

  75. Dustyn Polk

    If it was a guarantee, a right to use your own term, then why did courts, ranging from municipal to federal, rule in regards to the concept of militia for over 200 years since the Amendment was ratified?

    Why is it there is almost no documents pointing to the private ownership of a firearm being a right until the NRA began crafting them when they shifted being an organization to promote firearm proficiency and safety to a political lobbyist action group, thus significantly increasing their own financial status…

    There is a reasonable chance that the American populace has been hoodwinked for financial gain…

  76. Dustyn Polk

    If it was a guarantee, a right to use your own term, then why did courts, ranging from municipal to federal, rule in regards to the concept of militia for over 200 years since the Amendment was ratified?

    Why is it there is almost no documents pointing to the private ownership of a firearm being a right until the NRA began crafting them when they shifted being an organization to promote firearm proficiency and safety to a political lobbyist action group, thus significantly increasing their own financial status…

    There is a reasonable chance that the American populace has been hoodwinked for financial gain…

  77. Dave Olsen

    Dustyn Polk Sure- we can add you to the list. Liberals should just be cut out of the process.

  78. Jamaal Brown

    people that purchase firearms with the intent to commit crimes don't buy them from gun stores and people that buy from gun stores don't turn around and sell them in the street. So i can't imagine how any of these laws are going to curb gun violence. Side note: their waiting periods are actually BETTER than MD's. In MD there's an 8 day wait to purchase a handgun

  79. Mark Desman

    Dustyn; Not sure who you're directing your response toward, but you miss a few major points in your argument. One of the salient passages of the 2nd Amendment is that "The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." The founding fathers, most notably, Thomas Jefferson pointed to that passage with regard to confronting a government out of control.
    My point was only that the misguided effort to reduce crime by enacting a de facto illegalization of firearms dealers is, at best, a hollow gesture, imposed by a council that has failed to address the real problem in a realistic manner.

  80. William I. Fahey

    It is simply beyond belief these idiots feel disarming the law abiding citizen is a solution to stopping violent criminals. Honest,law abiding citizens, do not carry their weapons under their shirts when traversing the streets of the city. Therefore they are unarmed and potential victims like everyone else. Why–PLEASE tell me WHY not go after the drug dealers ad gangbangers who are actually breaking the law by carrying concealed weapons and engaging in shoot outs with their enemies on the streets of your city?

  81. Mark Shean

    “But to ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow. …
    For society does not control crime, ever, by forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of criminals.
    Society controls crime by forcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding.” Jeff Snyder

    These 'public servant's' take an Oath to uphold the Constitution,,,,, they lie and break it as soon as they get into their cozy little positions, well now they will be held Accountable by We The People in Nov. !

    Will the official's videotape the back alley gun deals?

  82. Dustyn Polk

    And the word 'militia' was included in the Second Amendment for a reason, but for some odd reason, the NRA says it doesn't matter, and their constituency follows them right off that cliff.

    Some of the earliest challenges to the Second Amendment occurred during Jefferson's lifetime, yet no record exists anywhere that he ever objected to them, namely SCOTUS, siding with the requirement of being a member of a militia in regards to firearms, despite there being a standing army.

    A city does not have to allow any businesses it doesn't want to allow.

    I do, however, agree that it would be much better to address issues like the inadequacy of public education in this modern age, the inability of the lower educated to obtain a job capable of sustaining themselves, the ever-rising price for basic commodities (just bought a gallon of milk today that cost almost as much as a gallon of gas – this is part of why we cannot have nice things)…

    But all of these things would require politicians to work together in some semblance of maturity and harmony, and flat put, that simply will not happen so long as citizens cannot be bothered to either not vote simply along party lines or be bothered to vote at all. American Idol is more active, in terms of 'voting' than politics has for at least two decades, but the latter is a bit more important…

  83. Jeff McKee

    Great. It's hard enough on the drug dealers. Now they have to buy a videotape and record all of their illegal gun purchases? That's discrimination.